Board 8 > Legend Of Korra: I'm the Avatar deal with it

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Ah, good catch on Bumi.


How many times has Bumi been mentioned in the show? Just the once in the first episode?


Maybe he is Amon! Jealous that he was the avatar's son and born a non bender >_>

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From: Forceful_Dragon | #301
Ah, good catch on Bumi.


How many times has Bumi been mentioned in the show? Just the once in the first episode?


Maybe he is Amon! Jealous that he was the avatar's son and born a non bender >_>


That was my original theory

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Anyways, bending is probably just a typical dominant type gene. So two non-benders with the carrier bending gene can have a bending child, which would explain Sokka/Katara, and two benders that have the double dominant bending gene can only have bending children, which explains why the air nomads are all benders (or at least the vast majority).

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Is there any explanation for why lightningbending is now so common? I know Toph trained other metalbenders, but lightningbending was supposed to require great discipline and calm, and now it's like every third firebender can do it. Even Mako did it at one point.

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No, lightning bending requires raw power which is something plenty of people can get good at imo? Metal bending requires lots of power/precision as well.


It is redirecting lightning that requires calm and inner peace and such. Since you have to channel it through yourself.

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From: Forceful_Dragon | #305
No, lightning bending requires raw power which is something plenty of people can get good at imo? Metal bending requires lots of power/precision as well.


It is redirecting lightning that requires calm and inner peace and such. Since you have to channel it through yourself.
It was lightning bending that was said to require peace of mind not the redirecting. The whole reason Iroh decided to teach Zuko redirection instead of the bending itself was because Zuko didn't have the peace of mind to do lightning.

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I've been watching Star Wars

And it got me thinking, what if Amon, like Darth Vader, is part robot? His limbs could have been destroyed by that malicious fire bender who killed his parents and destroyed his face. It would explain his seemingly impossible agility and his ability to not be blood bended

I'm still leaning more towards him being a spirit or possessed by one, though

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Well, I just finished catching up.

I've got no speculations about Amon, much as I'd like to contribute to that discussion. It'd be funny if he was somehow Ozai, so that Ozai could finally have a personality, but that's obviously rather unlikely.

I have to admit, I don't really like the supporting cast that much. Lin and Tenzin are great, but Mako and Asami are just... kind of there. Bolin is okay.

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Adding on to my robot theory, maybe Sato invented and funded the technology to save child Amon because he was injured in the same attack that killed his wife and Asami's mom. That's how they got in cahoots with each other, and fueled by their rage they invented equalists

This is pure fun speculation, there's no way this actually happened

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But then what about the old air nomads? It would be pretty difficult or impossible to reach some of those locations without air bending.

Just as the original fire benders learned bending from the dragons and earth benders from the badger moles, the air nomads learned air bending from the sky bisons. They likely were nomads that found a herd of bison, tamed them, and flew them to the areas where they would eventually build their temples. Sometime during this process, they learned air bending from them.

As far as the genetics of bending go, they will likely always be fairly murky. There's definitely some genetic link involved, as bending parents more reliably give birth to bending children and a bender of one type cannot be a bender of another (aside from the Avatar, obviously), but it's not entirely genetics either.

Bending is tied into unexplainable, spiritual and mystical mumbo jumbo. It's a result of culture and one's way of life. Could a water tribe couple with no family history of bending produce a water bender? I think most people would say yes. Could they produce a fire bender? I think most people would agree that they couldn't.

That's also why I don't think the survival of air bending lies solely in the hands of Tenzin and his children. An entire village of people have once again taken to the air nomad way of life, and are probably interacting with sky bison again. They'll learn the art again, someday.

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But suppose a group of non benders from the water tribe simply uprooted and moved in the remote mountains. And started interacting with badger moles.

Would that group of people (assume they are left alone) eventually develop earth bending?

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Well, I just finished catching up.

I've got no speculations about Amon, much as I'd like to contribute to that discussion. It'd be funny if he was somehow Ozai, so that Ozai could finally have a personality, but that's obviously rather unlikely.

I have to admit, I don't really like the supporting cast that much. Lin and Tenzin are great, but Mako and Asami are just... kind of there. Bolin is okay.
Hey. No. Bolin's a bro. Don't be dissin'.

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Bending always existing doesn't make it right. Thats the same as people saying "well we've always done it this way" in response to things

I had this long speech written but I realized I could simplify it by saying this: there's a reason 5 benders sit on the council for republic city and why all it's officers of the law are benders. Imagine a world where only white people could be politicians and cops. Don't you think everyone else would be a lite bit upset?

I'm wiling to say bending causes more harm than the harm it fixes. The sheer separation it drives through benders and non benders is terrible.

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From: TheConductorSix | #314
Bending always existing doesn't make it right. Thats the same as people saying "well we've always done it this way" in response to things

I had this long speech written but I realized I could simplify it by saying this: there's a reason 5 benders sit on the council for republic city and why all it's officers of the law are benders. Imagine a world where only white people could be politicians and cops. Don't you think everyone else would be a lite bit upset?

I'm wiling to say bending causes more harm than the harm it fixes. The sheer separation it drives through benders and non benders is terrible.

Do we know all the members of the council are benders? I thought we only knew that they represented their respective tribe or nation.

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From: Forceful_Dragon | #312
But suppose a group of non benders from the water tribe simply uprooted and moved in the remote mountains. And started interacting with badger moles.

Would that group of people (assume they are left alone) eventually develop earth bending?

I would say that after quite a few generations had passed, yes.

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All the council members might be benders, but I don't think it's a requirement. Sokka and an air temple guy were both council members during the Yakone days and I doubt that air temple guy was an air bender.

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I came in to agree with this. That part was awesome.

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From: CoolCly | #317
All the council members might be benders, but I don't think it's a requirement. Sokka and an air temple guy were both council members during the Yakone days and I doubt that air temple guy was an air bender.
Very true. I had forgotten about that.

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From: TheConductorSix | #314
Bending always existing doesn't make it right. Thats the same as people saying "well we've always done it this way" in response to things

I had this long speech written but I realized I could simplify it by saying this: there's a reason 5 benders sit on the council for republic city and why all it's officers of the law are benders. Imagine a world where only white people could be politicians and cops. Don't you think everyone else would be a lite bit upset?

I'm wiling to say bending causes more harm than the harm it fixes. The sheer separation it drives through benders and non benders is terrible.

Do we know all the members of the council are benders? I thought we only knew that they represented their respective tribe or nation.

We have no idea if the other three are benders. The fact that they never object to Tarrlok's anti-nonbender intiatives suggests they probably are, but it is possible that they are being bribed/threatened/blackmailed by Tarrlok. We know Sokka was a representative though and he was not a bender.

As for the "genetics" of bending, I believe the creators have said that it's part genetic, but also part spiritual. Anyone has the capability to be a bender but some would have to work harder to achieve their goal. They also said that if bending hasn't developed by teenage years, you probably will never have it.

Yeah Sokka definitely wasn't a bender and might've even served as like head council guy.

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Another counterpoint: The Earth King.

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What is the earth king a counterpoint to?

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From: Forceful_Dragon | #325
What is the earth king a counterpoint to?
That only benders can be in a powerful position? Though he's not a good example since until Aang came along he was being used as a puppet by benders.

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Oh, that earth king.

I was thinking of king bumi.

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So The Legend of Korra Facebook page may have shot my theory of Amon just being some guy named Amon theory. They posted the link to the last episode on iTunes and said, "keep thinking to yourself, 'who is Amon?'"

They're probably not asking us to solve an impossible mystery. There's a connection somewhere to somebody that we're probably going to be quite familiar with. One of my favorite theories is the one where he's the anti-avatar created when Aang was killed in the avatar state, almost his Nobody if you will.

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Spoilers


Amon is the unnamed Southern Water Tribe council member who always votes for Tarrlok.

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From: ViviffTheMobile | #328

So The Legend of Korra Facebook page may have shot my theory of Amon just being some guy named Amon theory. They posted the link to the last episode on iTunes and said, "keep thinking to yourself, 'who is Amon?'"

They're probably not asking us to solve an impossible mystery. There's a connection somewhere to somebody that we're probably going to be quite familiar with. One of my favorite theories is the one where he's the anti-avatar created when Aang was killed in the avatar state, almost his Nobody if you will.

Well I watched all the korra episodes again since this most recent episode and I'm still not seeing it.

It makes me wonder if I need to be thinking of something from TLA instead, but that would take much longer to wde through.

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Watch Amon be that equalist supporter guy Korra yelled at in the first episode

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SupremeZero posted...

Hey. No. Bolin's a bro. Don't be dissin'.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you there. The problem is that now that the probending arc is over, Bolin and Mako have no stake in the plot, but they continue to just kind of exist. Aang's friends all had defined reasons for joining his group, but Bolin and Mako have nothing beyond generally wanting to help. I mean, it's not a huge problem, but it'd be nice if they had some kind of personal stake in fighting the Equalists like Korra, Asami, and Lin do. Bolin's personality itself is okay, I guess.

Also, I just checked - Lin is supposed to be fifty?

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From: Anagram | #332
Also, I just checked - Lin is supposed to be fifty?
In Avatar people don't age fast at all. Remember Bumi and the Guru both were 100+ years old. The Guru was most likely 150+. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned that some avatars lived to be 200. So her being 50 makes sense.

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Bolin and Mako have as direct a stake as Sokka, Katara and Toph ever did in the Avatar's journey, arguably moreso (except in Katara's case). A. Bolin was kidnapped and in grave danger of being permanently "maimed" by Amon, so revenge is a motivation. B. Korra is their friend, and providing emotional support is something they can do that Tenzin (or whoever) can't so easily. C. Their Republic and way of life is in grave danger of being overthrown and ruled illegal by Amon's revolutionaries, so it makes sense to try to stop that if possible. D. They've grown up poor and disenfranchised, so to be part of something "big" - helping the Avatar - is a way of protecting their place in the world (remember that they needed somewhere to stay after the tournament - they don't have many great options). Gotta say, put in the position of either Bolin or Mako I'd almost certainly be doing what they are.

Asami is more questionable. She's there because she's with Mako, which is fair enough, but it'll be interesting to see if she stays if she breaks up with Mako.

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I'll grant you all the reasons you just listed for why Bolin and Mako are relevant party members.

But Asami is in no way "questionable". Her DAD is an equalist and he completely betrayed her.

The only question is who she will be loyal to when/if the mako relationship withers and dies, but her stake is as clear as any of them.


Korra doesn't necessarily "need" mako and bolin since she is a superior fighter in her own right, but they do have reasons to be there as well. And a big one that you forgot to mention is that they are both in like and/or love with korra. She met them and bolin was immediately smitten. She joined their team and became their friends. She did well and then mako started to fall for her as well. She was pretty firmly entrenched in their lives emotionally through the combination of team member camaraderie and any other feelings they had along the way. By the time the pro bending angle was removed (after the finals) their fates had been tied together. Maybe they weren't the ones charged with being the avatar, but her fight was now their fight.

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SupremeZero posted...

Hey. No. Bolin's a bro. Don't be dissin'.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you there. The problem is that now that the probending arc is over, Bolin and Mako have no stake in the plot, but they continue to just kind of exist. Aang's friends all had defined reasons for joining his group, but Bolin and Mako have nothing beyond generally wanting to help. I mean, it's not a huge problem, but it'd be nice if they had some kind of personal stake in fighting the Equalists like Korra, Asami, and Lin do. Bolin's personality itself is okay, I guess.

Also, I just checked - Lin is supposed to be fifty?

To make them important:

Amon: Mako I am your father!

Mako: NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Asami had already joined the group before she knew her father was an Equalist, no?

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She was already hanging around in their circle.

But only because of her chance meeting with mako and then the sponsorship of their bending team.

The question I thought was why the characters currently had a good reason to appose the equalists along side Korra in such a direct way.


It's not like she was a part of "team avatar" when her only purpose was to be a love/jealousy interest. But then her father heel turns and betrays her which gives her an extremely legitimate reason for opposition.

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Kotetsu534 posted...

Bolin and Mako have as direct a stake as Sokka, Katara and Toph ever did in the Avatar's journey, arguably moreso (except in Katara's case). A. Bolin was kidnapped and in grave danger of being permanently "maimed" by Amon, so revenge is a motivation. B. Korra is their friend, and providing emotional support is something they can do that Tenzin (or whoever) can't so easily. C. Their Republic and way of life is in grave danger of being overthrown and ruled illegal by Amon's revolutionaries, so it makes sense to try to stop that if possible. D. They've grown up poor and disenfranchised, so to be part of something "big" - helping the Avatar - is a way of protecting their place in the world (remember that they needed somewhere to stay after the tournament - they don't have many great options). Gotta say, put in the position of either Bolin or Mako I'd almost certainly be doing what they are.

Asami is more questionable. She's there because she's with Mako, which is fair enough, but it'll be interesting to see if she stays if she breaks up with Mako.

Not really. Katara and Toph were Aang's bending tutors - they absolutely needed to travel with him, at least for a while. Bolin has never at any point indicated that revenge is in any way a motivator for him, C can apply to literally every bender in existence. D is a legitimate point, but I mean, it's like the only one. Asami at least has a personal stake in the Equalist conflict, since her father is one - but then, she's kind of boring, at least in my opinion. I really, really hope the love triangle is dropped, but I know it won't be.

Although, again, I'd like to emphasize that I do like the show and I do think it's pretty good. I just don't think the supporting cast is living up to its potential like TLA's supporting cast did.

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Was I the only one thinking about boneitis during the bloodbending scenes?

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From: Grand Kirby | #340
Was I the only one thinking about boneitis during the bloodbending scenes?
The last one in the flashback definitely made me think of this. I was kinda surprised how brutal it was. >_>

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I can just imagine an alternate universe Avatar where Aang loses to Ozai, and like five years later, a group of bloodbenders just goes and kills Ozai and all of his guards and save the world with their heroic bloodbending.

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That actually made me think of something, where are all of these OP bloodbenders coming from, anyway? Hama's story made it seem like she invented it, and she only taught it to Katara. Katara wasn't in the flashback either so we don't really know what her reaction to all of these shenanigans would be.

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Between all the people Hama bloodbent and the couple that Katara did, word probably got out that blood bending is possible since many of them survived to tell what happened to them.

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And once it had been discovered that it was possible it was only a matter of time until someone decided to master the technique.

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So... June 23rd... Anyone know if there's going to be a break in between the seasons and if so how long the break will be?

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But this is one person bloodbending 5-6 people (or an entire courthouse without using hands if you think Yakone was doing that by himself as opposed to his gang members doing it secretly) WITHOUT a full moon. It seems just a bit too powerful. There has to be a trick.

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But this is one person bloodbending 5-6 people (or an entire courthouse without using hands if you think Yakone was doing that by himself as opposed to his gang members doing it secretly) WITHOUT a full moon. It seems just a bit too powerful. There has to be a trick.

His "trick" was that he was just a uniquely powerful bender with abilities that couldn't be reproduced, like Combustion Man, except by his son, either because of personal training or because of genetics.

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I'm not convinced that genetics can produce someone arguably more powerful than Ozai with Sozin's comet, Aang, and Toph put together. Though maybe bloodbending isn't really that powerful, there just isn't anyone that knows how to defend against it, other than Avatar state Aang and Amon.

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