Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 43 - "I shall bring them terror!"

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From: MajinZidane | #050
who says this quote?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/954437-league-of-legends/62869037/702398774
And then the thread basically dissolved into two people arguing over whether building tank Malphite was a good idea. And know I remember that I want to try AD malphite. What good build? Wit's end/Atma's/Frozen Mallet/Frozen Heart(I refuse to not use this on Malphite)/boots2(what the hell would be good as boots?)/No idea what would go here

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<p>From: MajinZidane | #050
who says this quote?</p>
Cho'Gath.

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Ugh to spend ten dollars to get Darus' bundle or not...hm. Also how do you build AD Mal chaotic?

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AD Mal should only really be bought if you're knowing that no one is going to be able to kill that carry you're sticking to. Otherwise building complete tank as an immovable object has much better utility for your team.

If you so want to carry that hard, it pretty much involves getting a Wit's End and IE. Your damage with W afterward will pretty much shred any carry on their team, but you're also dying faster because you sacrificed early defense items for the damage.

Just build armor and spam E and a couple Q's. That's enough threat to make their damage dealers useless. Let you team build damage.

And Swain is currently banned everywhere. Did that new item break him or something?

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Chalice + blue is literally infinite mana.

AD malzahar? Pretty damn good on dominion. Manamune, Frozen Heart
Then maybe Odyn's veil, triforce is good, black cleaver is good, etc.

You basically want to make minions do crazy damage while being tanky.

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Swain was causing crashes, so he is disabled.

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From what I've seen of Malph, if thats the Mal you're talking about, he has 4 distinct builds.

1.The most common is the Double Gold items into Frozen Heart/Randuins/Thornmail immovable Disabling Tank. This guy shuts down teams with AD top/ AD jungle/ AD bottom

2. There's the Solo Top Malphite with Sorc Boots/ Dorans Rings to poke in lane, then Sunfire to Farm like crazy, then Abyssal Scepter. I've also seen quite a bit of Sorc Boots>Dorans>Zhonyas lately because it makes his mid game just insane.

3.AD Malphite gets tons of Free AD and Armor from W so he builds Wit's End and Phage and sticks to you while taking little damage back.

4.Straight Carry malphite for the funsies. Phantom Dancer x5 get dunked.

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From: Gwindor | #056
Chalice + blue is literally infinite mana.

AD malzahar? Pretty damn good on dominion. Manamune, Frozen Heart
Then maybe Odyn's veil, triforce is good, black cleaver is good, etc.

You basically want to make minions do crazy damage while being tanky.

I was talking about Malphite >_> Anyways for the level of play I am at the build I am currently using is working quite well. also new update looks %$#^ing awesome.

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ba ha ha, Darius' ult will also refresh on assists, in about a 2 second timespan.

It's intended to work this way.

sigh

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Darius big nerfs next week?

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probably not

he's cc bait

if he goes into a teamfight he probably will die

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Just got my 3rd Penta Kill

WITH FIZZZZZZ YEAAAAH SO GOOD.

Team was baddies and we still lost tho lol

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Nice, Ermine

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I really want to learn Fizz at a good level. Like so bad. Last time I played him I got forced to go against wukong because lolsoloqueue. Still managed to pick up mad kills and assists late game. What champs are Fizz definitively great against?

Olaf and Irelia probably do more true damage over the course of the game, and they have ways to mitigate CC outside of items. Darius basically has to be left alone.

He's still absolutely ridiculous, but let's be real here.

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Dumetavius posted...


Irelia (but I think I'm just good against them as I've never lost to an Irelia ever)
Vlad
Volibear
Cho
Leblanc (if you know the matchup)
Ahri (pre 6)
Anivia
Ziggs
Xerath


Bad Matchups
Nidalee
Udyr
Teemo
Ryze
Morgana
Malzahar

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He feels like Tryndamere: amazing trader and someone who dominates people hard once he has a lead.

But come team fight time you can't be Rambo. He needs a dedicated tank because he can't initiate.

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I feel like he could be played as a support, with the right AD.

Just stack your dot on people and run away. You have a depositioner, which could set people up for Vayne to stun. You could stack dots with trist. Ashe could let you run in and run away easily.

And he gets a ton of innate armor pen, and true damage, so he wouldn't do too badly without farm. He'd be the only support who could buy avarice blade for real. Shurelia's and youmuu's would be hilarious to watch, as a bonus.

The biggest problem would be his complete lack of defense, but maybe 21 def would work?

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Yeah Darius seems extremely good right now. The biggest argument argument I've seen against him in general is that he can't 1 v 5 teams on his own which...isn't a very good argument. As long as he has one good initiator on his team, he's going to do very well in team fights.

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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.

Woot hit level 20. I already got as many quints/marks/seals for mal as he can use at level 20. Kinda behind on the glyphs so AP people will be a bit more difficult :(

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Grats on 20!

And welcome to the endless pursuit of tier 3 runes. ^_^

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I think the actual number for Darius' ult cooldown refresh is .5 seconds (not from my experience, but from what I've read.. which I can't remember where it's from)

Can't wait to try Athene's Ziggs. Bombs all day errday

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From: McBonesII | #073
I think the actual number for Darius' ult cooldown refresh is .5 seconds (not from my experience, but from what I've read.. which I can't remember where it's from)
This is probably true. The window is very small and I'd argue that the difference is pretty negligible and it barely makes a difference whether or not it exists.

I assume it's just to create a "fairness" window for when you pretty much did kill them but a friend had to finish them off. Just to keep you sane.

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hahahah Darius is hilarious. Just like Tryndamere. If he gets early kills say goodbye to top lane. There's no coming back against a guy with DOT/Grabs/Passive Armor Pen/Range Damage/True Damage.

Plus, as a bonus, he has THE COOLEST LOOKING ULT OF ALL TIME.

he just leaps up and mashes on your mutha fing head

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Silver_Ermine posted...

Dumetavius posted...

I really want to learn Fizz at a good level. Like so bad. Last time I played him I got forced to go against wukong because lolsoloqueue. Still managed to pick up mad kills and assists late game. What champs are Fizz definitively great against?

Irelia (but I think I'm just good against them as I've never lost to an Irelia ever)
Vlad
Volibear
Cho
Leblanc (if you know the matchup)
Ahri (pre 6)
Anivia
Ziggs
Xerath


Bad Matchups
Nidalee
Udyr
Teemo
Ryze
Morgana
Malzahar

Do you usually level E first for utility, or W?

galio is a horrible matchup for fizz also

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prof, Mal has 2 slows already in his kit, you really shouldn't need exhaust so i'd take ignite. When I build Mal AD for funsies i mean i build him straight carry - IE, PD, BT, LW. This is not a viable build against skilled players usually though, because Mal does not have range so he has to get in the thick of things. If your team has a tank with a taunt and some peeps who can shield you, it can work though. My normal build is the straight tank build. If I were to try to come up with a viable AD Mal build, it'd probably be something like Tri Force, Frozen Heart, IE, Maw/Wit's/BV/FoN (depending how much MR i feel i need). Might need to throw some Lifesteal in there somewhere for the sustain.

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Justin_Crossing posted...

galio is a horrible matchup for fizz also

Oh yeah.

True story: Never fought Galio top as Fizz yet. I can imagine the pain.

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Dumetavius posted...

Silver_Ermine posted...

Dumetavius posted...

I really want to learn Fizz at a good level. Like so bad. Last time I played him I got forced to go against wukong because lolsoloqueue. Still managed to pick up mad kills and assists late game. What champs are Fizz definitively great against?

Irelia (but I think I'm just good against them as I've never lost to an Irelia ever)
Vlad
Volibear
Cho
Leblanc (if you know the matchup)
Ahri (pre 6)
Anivia
Ziggs
Xerath


Bad Matchups
Nidalee
Udyr
Teemo
Ryze
Morgana
Malzahar

Do you usually level E first for utility, or W?

Always W. There are some cases where I might/should get E maxed first but I'm super fantastic damage guy and always opt for maxing trident lol

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Isn't Galio a bad matchup against anyone these days? He was already a major pain to deal with before the new super-awesome chalice came out.

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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.

In my completely unprofessional opinion, Chalice only broke Swain and Anivia.

Both can just park their ults in a team fight and keep them up forever as long as one person dies and they get the assist for it.

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I think...

I think that people believe that Ashe got buffed.

I've heard more than one person say she's "so good now."

Placebo effect? Idiocy?

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Didn't her attack animation get smoother?

Only thing I can think of lol

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didn't frost shot get faster or something?

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yeah frost shot doesn't have the delayed thing

otherwise she's the exact same

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Haven't tried the new Ashe yet. But her default skin is really sexy hot and sexy cool now. I almost regret buying Amethyst!

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I'd say that having smoother autoattack animations and no delay on frost shot is a pretty good buff for an AD carry, especially considering that she was already very good.

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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.

I like how they've redesigned Ashe's splashes twice now.

Not that I'll complain. I actually kinda want the white Ashe now that she actually looks good.

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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.

Making Frost Shot not a DPS loss in lategame is a buff, and if they would just tweak her passive a bit (make it not get 'used up' on non-crit AAs), then I'd regret buying an AD carry for more than 450 IP.

Also, time to try out BM!

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Peace___Frog posted...

Haven't tried the new Ashe yet. But her default skin is really sexy hot and sexy cool now. I almost regret buying Amethyst!

Amethyst still looks the best with the update tbqh

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Amethyst purple arrows too legit

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Amethyst looks best in game yeah

Splashes included she's one of the lower tier ones for me though

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From: Accel_R8 | Posted: 5/24/2012 2:27:20 AM | #097


Amazing.
oh wow

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Just carried a game.

What a good feeling after a ton of aggravating losses

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