Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 77: Cure For What Ailes You

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Jakyl25
03/12/17 9:56:38 PM
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https://twitter.com/mlcalderone/status/841098366549401600
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Jakyl25
03/12/17 9:59:19 PM
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And Trump has the authority to destroy it
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lordloki12
03/12/17 9:59:28 PM
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No Bush created the TSA as we know it since its mission has never changed.


Regarding your questions about extra screenings my answer is yes especially while claiming them to be random.
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dowolf
03/12/17 9:59:32 PM
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the set of people whom the gun measure would have affected were those who have been deemed mentally incapable of handling their financial affairs. The federal government does not have the power to classify people as such, only the states. In most (all?) states, the process involves a court hearing, with an attorney provided to the person accused of being mentally incompetent given a lawyer if they cannot afford one.
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ChaosTonyV4
03/12/17 10:00:33 PM
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Oh, and "mentally disabled people can get guns" is not the problem.

Let's say I'm the government and I don't want Harrich here owning a gun. I can just classify him as mentally ill with no proof. Harrich is now on a no gun buy list without actually being mentally ill. Government overreach is what we need to get rid of; I have no real problem with background checks, and let's not forget that the vast majority of gun crime happens from people buying their guns illegally. These gang members that kill each other aren't worried about whether or not they're on a gun ban list.


As for this, I typed up a detailed message but the topic closed so quickly I lost it.

As I understand it, the only people who would have been prevented from buying guns due to being "mentally ill" on the Obama law that Trump repealed were people who had petitioned for SSDI with certain mental illnesses.

So basically, the only people who it would stop, are those who said "I'm too unfit to sustain myself".

tl;dr A valid complaint would be that it wouldn't stop all incidents.

But your complaint is invalid.
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StealThisSheen
03/12/17 10:00:57 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Obama authorized the groping and body scanners


Full body scanners were implemented in 2007

"Oops."
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ChaosTonyV4
03/12/17 10:03:13 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Obama authorized the groping and body scanners


Full body scanners were implemented in 2007

"Oops."


Really? Google says it was later.

Regardless, it only takes 5 seconds of Google to see dozens of "fake news" articles from the "liberal media" decrying the body scanners as intrusive.
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Jakyl25
03/12/17 10:03:34 PM
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While it's always great to prove Ulti factually wrong, "who started it" doesn't really matter if Obama (and now Trump) did nothing to change things
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StealThisSheen
03/12/17 10:05:03 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Obama authorized the groping and body scanners


Full body scanners were implemented in 2007

"Oops."


Really? Google says it was later.

Regardless, it only takes 5 seconds of Google to see dozens of "fake news" articles from the "liberal media" decrying the body scanners as intrusive.


2010 they put in new types of scanners, is all. They already had full body scanners.
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TheRock1525
03/12/17 10:22:26 PM
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Fun fact I went through the full questioning thing like that by the TSA before.

Had my drink swabbed for radiation, had my entire bag and it's content dumped out, was patted down in full view of everyone.

And then the guy says to me "hey, you need to relax" after all the questioning was done. I was calm, I answered all his questions, I never once raised my voice, but cause I was super nervous about all this questioning I had to be told to relax.
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TheRock1525
03/12/17 11:25:53 PM
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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/after-pledging-donate-salary-trump-declines-release-proof-n732466

Why is Trump so bad at showing proof of charitable donations?
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Not_an_Owl
03/12/17 11:28:26 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/after-pledging-donate-salary-trump-declines-release-proof-n732466

Why is Trump so bad at showing proof of charitable donations?

Because he doesn't actually make charitable donations, he just wants you to think he does.
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red13n
03/13/17 2:05:26 AM
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Trump doesn't have to tell the truth. He just has to say that anyone that says he is lying is lying. People will believe the person they want to believe.
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psaltery
03/13/17 3:46:03 AM
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Geert expressing common European sentiments.

https://youtu.be/gqHLU4QJwNo
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Reg
03/13/17 4:42:17 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
While it's always great to prove Ulti factually wrong, "who started it" doesn't really matter if Obama (and now Trump) did nothing to change things

True, but Ulti pretending that the outrage and frustration (over the TSA) hasn't been there all along is disingenuous at best and maliciously deceptive at worst.

Which is par for the course for him so I'm not sure why I'm bothering to bring it up ~_~
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Mr Lasastryke
03/13/17 5:20:58 AM
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i like how ulti's "the left sees as everything as us/them" diatribe from the previous topic can just as easily be applied to himself. why isn't he outraged about trump not speaking out against the TSA? oh wait, trump is on team red so it doesn't matter.
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Paratroopa1
03/13/17 5:25:06 AM
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no s*** guys
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psaltery
03/13/17 5:26:25 AM
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Employers could impose hefty penalties on employees who decline to participate in genetic testing as part of workplace wellness programs if a bill approved by a U.S. House committee this week becomes law.

In general, employers don't have that power under existing federal laws, which protect genetic privacy and nondiscrimination. But a bill passed Wednesday by the House Committee on Education and the Workforce would allow employers to get around those obstacles if the information is collected as part of a workplace wellness program.

Such programs — which offer workers a variety of carrots and sticks to monitor and improve their health, such as lowering cholesterol — have become increasingly popular with companies. Some offer discounts on health insurance to employees who complete health-risk assessments. Others might charge people more for smoking. Under the Affordable Care Act, employers are allowed to discount health insurance premiums by up to 30 percent — and in some cases 50 percent — for employees who voluntarily participate in a wellness program where they're required to meet certain health targets.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/03/11/employees-who-decline-genetic-testing-could-face-penalities-under-proposed-bill/

Terrible.
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psaltery
03/13/17 6:01:17 AM
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/841270741060464648

Be nice!
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XIII_rocks
03/13/17 6:05:35 AM
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Scotland gonna have another referendum about independence. Lame

Anyone who wanted them to remain part of the UK but voted for Brexit had it coming to be honest.
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Mr Lasastryke
03/13/17 6:17:28 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable,


sounds a lot like trump, yeah.
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banananor
03/13/17 6:47:06 AM
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Chill out, buddy. Obama isn't the president anymore, and he isn't running the government from an underground bunker a mile away from the White House.

Trump's the president, and has access to everything he did
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MoogleKupo141
03/13/17 7:03:05 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/experts-obama-blocked-us-from-vote-fraud-data/

I.

Wonder.

Why.


because they're some randos off the street

Obama's just supposed to give out government data to any idiot with a website who asks for it?
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Mr Lasastryke
03/13/17 7:03:48 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Which is exactly how he knows about the wire tapping and domestic surveillance.


oh great, he knows about it. is he going to do something about it too?
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banananor
03/13/17 7:14:54 AM
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The president has the power to declassify anything he wants outside of nuclear secrets and the identities of foreign agents.
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banananor
03/13/17 7:17:14 AM
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If you really believe the wire "tapp" info came to Trump from somewhere other than a brietbart article, I think you're in for sorry Revelation somewhere down the line
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My Immortal
03/13/17 7:18:12 AM
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Eddv
03/13/17 7:22:17 AM
#34:


XIII_rocks posted...
Scotland gonna have another referendum about independence. Lame

Anyone who wanted them to remain part of the UK but voted for Brexit had it coming to be honest.


Brexit is like a perfect example of Scotland not having its interests served well by being part of the UK
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psaltery
03/13/17 7:35:15 AM
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Trump will soon be hosting Xi Jinping at the Southern White House Maralago. Too bad he can't just stay in Florida all year it would probably be better that way.
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charmander6000
03/13/17 8:17:55 AM
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A Scottish referendum was expected, they clearly wanted to stay. However, it's doubtful they would achieve independence within two years and I doubt the EU would let Scotland in right away after the UK left.

Basically the Scottish people could end up voting the worst option (no UK, no EU)
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banananor
03/13/17 8:20:08 AM
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anyone have any idea on the viability of the "Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2017"?

Seems like it's a bi-annual ritual at this point. I guess it's nice to finally see it proposed by a republican this time
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ChaosTonyV4
03/13/17 8:39:15 AM
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psaltery posted...
Trump will soon be hosting Xi Jinping at the Southern White House Maralago. Too bad he can't just stay in Florida all year it would probably be better that way.


Another golfing trip? My god.

UltimaterializerX posted...
It's going to get legalized in our lifetimes, might as well get it done sooner rather than later.


You know the Trump Administrations current stance is "no legal weed", right?

Also, JonTron has gone full-on white nationalist :(

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Eddv
03/13/17 8:41:08 AM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
psaltery posted...
Trump will soon be hosting Xi Jinping at the Southern White House Maralago. Too bad he can't just stay in Florida all year it would probably be better that way.


Another golfing trip? My god.

UltimaterializerX posted...
It's going to get legalized in our lifetimes, might as well get it done sooner rather than later.


You know the Trump Administrations current stance is "no legal weed", right?

Also, JonTron has gone full-on white nationalist :(

http://i.imgur.com/Xtdydh6.jpg


I guess France doesn't exist
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banananor
03/13/17 8:41:54 AM
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i'm with you on that! this seems like a no-brainer. i'm a little confused as to why it's so difficult to legalize

the only arguments i've heard against legalization are from police complaining there's no way to test for high driving, and my aunt who thinks it'll make people sick and crazy and "who is going to pay for their health care"

and not everything has to be about trump!
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Jakyl25
03/13/17 8:53:47 AM
#43:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Legally, yes he is if the data isn't classified.

https://www.foia.gov/

Unfortunately, there's nothing stopping the government from classifying all the data. Jesse Ventura wrote a really good book about this.


How do you feel about Trump making it harder for people to request things under FOIA by banning online requests?
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SovietOmega
03/13/17 8:54:55 AM
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Poor Jon...he makes some good content on youtube, but that's quite the view he has...
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Jakyl25
03/13/17 8:58:02 AM
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It shows just how effective the white nationalist recruitment tricks are.

It's an easy, gradual slide from "ironic racism" to "the entire world should be segregated into ethnostates"

You can also see this happening to Vlado
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Eddv
03/13/17 9:00:36 AM
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banananor posted...
i'm with you on that! this seems like a no-brainer. i'm a little confused as to why it's so difficult to legalize

the only arguments i've heard against legalization are from police complaining there's no way to test for high driving, and my aunt who thinks it'll make people sick and crazy and "who is going to pay for their health care"

and not everything has to be about trump!


Well when it comes to legislation it kind of does.

Even if it passed he could veto
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Dancedreamer
03/13/17 9:02:12 AM
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Did anyone hear about the Word of Faith Fellowship Church Abuse?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BROKEN_FAITH_ABRIDGED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-02-27-01-27-43

Really disturbing that these prosecutors obstructed cases for their religion.
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charmander6000
03/13/17 9:04:26 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
It shows just how effective the white nationalist recruitment tricks are.

It's an easy, gradual slide from "ironic racism" to "the entire world should be segregated into ethnostates"

You can also see this happening to Vlado


I honestly was waiting for him to continue his logic and suggest US (and Canada) should go back to being First Nations dominant.
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Jakyl25
03/13/17 9:05:15 AM
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Religion of peace at it again!
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Suprak the Stud
03/13/17 9:10:50 AM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
psaltery posted...
Trump will soon be hosting Xi Jinping at the Southern White House Maralago. Too bad he can't just stay in Florida all year it would probably be better that way.


Another golfing trip? My god.

UltimaterializerX posted...
It's going to get legalized in our lifetimes, might as well get it done sooner rather than later.


You know the Trump Administrations current stance is "no legal weed", right?

Also, JonTron has gone full-on white nationalist :(

http://i.imgur.com/Xtdydh6.jpg


Isn't he half Iranian or am I confusing him with a different Youtuber? Not that it matters but it seems weird for him to want to dive headfirst into the white nationalist movement like this.
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