Board 8 > Ace Attorney Discussion Topic, Part 6 - This Reminds Me of a Crossover Edition

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dowolf translation is still up but it's only the first episode (which might or might not be complete)
So..yeah

I am not going to watch this for years anyway, but at least I knew it was an option
Now I am worried
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I wonder if the reason why this new person is voicing all the dialogue instead of putting it on subtitles is because of what they said in that Reddit topic. If you're just playing the game and not adding anything to it, it's more likely to get deleted.
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don't think it's likely i ever watch it then :(
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AceAttorney/comments/6j7ujv/dgs_subs_whats_next/

A response about the DGS1 subs situation, if anyone wants to read it.
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a lot of hand-wringing there. i can understand their frustration though.
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I'd like to get @dowolf to give his take on this, if he doesn't mind.
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Huh. That's... surprising. Especially since the AAI2 project never even heard the rumblings of anything from Capcom; this would almost seem to suggest DGS is getting an official localization? *Shrug*

Re: my stuff: My translation for the entire first episode is still online, as are the Word documents for the later chapters. Videos can be found on my channel, Word documents are in the courtrecords.net forums.

To the point: These videos do not fall under fair use. At all. I have done all the AA videos I have done under the full and complete knowledge that Capcom could elect to do this at any time, with or without warning. The law is clear: only the original copyright holder may grant license to translate. Additionally, while there are certainly issues with copyright law (70 + life is dumb), this is not one of them. You do not get to compete with the original copyright holders. This includes competing with the copyright holder's ability to choose, in the future, to translate the game. It doesn't much matter how much work you've done. It doesn't much matter if the official translation is garbage. You don't have a foot to stand on, neither legally nor ethically. And please realize I am saying this from the position of having completed translations that have never seen the light of day because of (garbage) official releases being announced not long after the completion of the first draft.

A natural counterargument is "But Let's Play videos are allowed!" To which I say: Yes, they are allowed. "Tolerated" might be a better word. Whether or not they are legal is an entirely separate argument, and one I am not equipped to answer; while the addition of commentary does make it more of a derived work akin to a review or other such things that are legal under fair use, it is much harder to make that argument with regards to visual novels and other linear, story-based games, ones where a person who watches your video is distinctly unlikely to actually purchase your game. As far as I know, none of this has been tested in court. And regardless, the translations they and I have done do not add any commentary, so it is hard to imagine them being considered fair use, even if Let's Plays of the same game were.
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It'd be nice if this was a prelude to a localization announcement, but this feels more like Square shutting down that Chrono Trigger 3D remake project several years ago. DGS had bad sales in Japan, even by the series' standards, so I imagine they fear it'd do even worse here.

I'd love to be wrong though!
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Yeah, I can't imagine translating it would be profitable :/
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Great post, dowolf. I generally feel similarly. Don't want to be the one telling anyone 'you deserved it' - the definition of deserve is extremely up for debate - but I can understand the feeling of emotional outrage when you're as invested as these people were. 'Everyone else gets away with it' doesn't hold in the court of law or whatever, but it feels really, really bad.

And I wish you hadn't reminded me about CT3D. You've made sad for the second time in like three days!
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SeabassDebeste posted...

You've made sad for the second time in like three days!

that's what I do
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next thing you'll be telling me that the snes classic won't have chrono trigger
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It'll have Super Mario RPG, which was the better SNES Square RPG anyway!
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and FFVI too I guess
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now Secret of Mana I can't explain
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will I be able to get a SNES Classic before preorders sell out

probably not

I'm still waiting on a decently priced Switch
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if you really want a switch i can ship one to you at retail price + whatever cost for shipping

i'd love an SNES classic but odds are pretty bad that i could get one :(
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I don't really need a Switch right now. I'd like to have one by the time Mario Odyssey comes out, which is why I haven't bitten the bullet and overspent. I'm sure I'd enjoy Breath of the Wild and Mario Kart 8, but I won't be head over heels for them most likely.

But if you're offering, I would gladly take it.
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Also, do you want anything in exchange? I've been strongly considering parting with my GameCube and Wii libraries because I doubt I'll ever bring my Wii out of cold storage again.
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Interesting
http://nintendoeverything.com/apollo-justice-ace-attorney-rated-for-nintendo-3ds-in-south-korea/
http://forums.court-records.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=32640

I don't really care about this whatsoever, but still interesting
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honestly... i'd love some wii/gcn games, but practically speaking i don't even muster the time/willpower to finish the games i already have, so it'd probably be a waste

i'll see if i can pick up a switch in the coming days!
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well maybe I'll open up the offer to the rest of the people in this topic who may or may not still be following along
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which I guess is no one
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seems vacant for sure
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their loss I guess
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No one cares about a possibility of AJ for 3DS?
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Nanis23 posted...

No one cares about a possibility of AJ for 3DS?

it'd just be a port of the HD version that's already out on phones
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plus it might not mean anything at all
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I'm nearing the end of my 3-5 replay, and a thought occurred to me: upon being informed that Maya was channeling her, couldn't Dahlia have taken her revenge by committing suicide in Maya's body?

I guess maybe there wouldn't be any way to do it in the courtroom, but she could have made a break for it or something.
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She might of been able to. However, spur of the moment suicide attempts are quite painful and it is Dahlia that would have to put up with the pain. Also, technically spirit mediums can kick out the spirit they are channeling.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

I'm nearing the end of my 3-5 replay, and a thought occurred to me: upon being informed that Maya was channeling her, couldn't Dahlia have taken her revenge by committing suicide in Maya's body?

oh this theory again

you guys disappear completely and come back with this

the answer is no because by the time she accepted what happened she got booted out of Maya's body
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whoa finally found a Switch for under $300 on Amazon

nabbed it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6oclCrPyNo&feature=push-u&attr_tag=knxeKCXMvj2GloA5-6

oh hell yes time to watch
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going to wait for subs
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