Poll of the Day > USA withdraws from the Paris Climate Agreement, Weather Channel website responds

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https://weather.com/



Someone has to say something, what a huge audience
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Well when part of New York is under water in 15 years people will start caring and we can point and laugh at them and say "told you so!"
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Considering his stance on pretty much every other environmental issue, I don't think anyone is really surprised by this.

Jiggy101011 posted...

Well when part of New York is under water in 15 years people will start caring and we can point and laugh at them and say "told you so!"

But that's what they said 15 years ago!

Now America can join an exclusive non-climate agreement club with other bad ass countries like Nicaragua and Syria.

Those three are now way too cool for school.
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Jiggy101011 posted...

Well when part of New York is under water in 15 years people will start caring and we can point and laugh at them and say "told you so!"

Mar-a-Lago is only about 13 ft above sea level, so that should be under water (in more ways that one) long before NYC.

i dunno why smog producing vehicles are still a thing
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rjsilverthorn posted...

Jiggy101011 posted...

Well when part of New York is under water in 15 years people will start caring and we can point and laugh at them and say "told you so!"

Mar-a-Lago is only about 13 ft above sea level, so that should be under water (in more ways that one) long before NYC.

Mar-A-Lago may be fortunate relative to the rest of the state

http://www.wri.org/publication/sea-level-rise-and-its-impact-miami-dade-county

Flooding has already become a serious issue regularly in FL

Incidentally from the Weather Channel 4 years ago

https://weather.com/science/environment/news/sea-level-rises-miami-doomed-20130625

Not shocking, it has been happening
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Here is Bill Whittle's take on this issue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_RuverrEZ4

I'm not listening to some talking head with no science credentials bash the credentials of someone much more qualified thxxxxxx

Bill Nye is irrelevant to this
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TheWorstPoster posted...

Jiggy101011 posted...

Well when part of New York is under water in 15 years people will start caring and we can point and laugh at them and say "told you so!"

But that's what they said 15 years ago!

Yes and sea levels have risen, or are you just ignoring statistics on purpose?
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TheWorstPoster posted...

Here is Bill Whittle's take on this issue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_RuverrEZ4

Who cares? Just the title "Bill Nye the science lie" is enough to tell you the video is going to be an outpouring of ignorant bull shit.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Who cares? Just the title "Bill Nye the science lie" is enough to tell you the video is going to be an outpouring of ignorant bull shit.

I googled the name and would you be surprised he is a tea party guy
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Doctor Foxx posted...

BlackScythe0 posted...

Who cares? Just the title "Bill Nye the science lie" is enough to tell you the video is going to be an outpouring of ignorant bull shit.

I googled the name and would you be surprised he is a tea party guy

Probably thinks a snowball is a valid argument against climate change.

So, you do not want to listen to a man who taught astronomy for 20 years, and a technician in a geochronology lab using thermoluminescance to date pottery shards to talk about science?

In 1979, Whittle began attending the University of Florida as a theater major. While there, he wrote and directed the short film The Pigeon Hole which became a national finalist in the Student Academy Awards competition. Whittle was forced to drop out of college when he did not maintain the required GPA and consequentially lost his financial aid.

is this the guy who taught astronomy for 20 years?
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RCtheWSBC posted...

In 1979, Whittle began attending the University of Florida as a theater major. While there, he wrote and directed the short film The Pigeon Hole which became a national finalist in the Student Academy Awards competition. Whittle was forced to drop out of college when he did not maintain the required GPA and consequentially lost his financial aid.

is this the guy who taught astronomy for 20 years?

Maybe he has a guest that has no climate science background and humors anthropogenic climate change denial. Makes sense he'd go on a tea party interview

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial#United_States

A study in 2008 from the University of Central Florida analyzed the sources of "environmentally skeptical" literature published in the United States. The analysis showed that 92% of the literature was partly or wholly affiliated with a self-proclaimed conservative think tank.

A study from 2015 identified 4,556 individuals with overlapping network ties to 164 organizations which are responsible for the most efforts to downplay the threat of climate change in the U.S
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You guys are right.

We should listen to a climate change expert instead!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsioIw4bvzI

This dude thinks we're clicking anything he posts
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"some of the models suggested that..."

Yeah, that is accurate. We have been experiencing great ice loss. New record low for it this past year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_shrinkage

I will listen to climate scientists and the consensus is anthropogenic climate change is real.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

"some of the models suggested that..."

Yeah, that is accurate. We have been experiencing great ice loss. New record low for it this past year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_shrinkage

I will listen to climate scientists and the consensus is anthropogenic climate change is real.

Then why did the same ones from the 1970's claim that we were headed towards an ice-age?

This Dilbert strip sums everything up nicely

http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-14

TheWorstPoster posted...

Then why did the same ones from the 1970's claim that we were headed towards an ice-age?

Because they didn't

https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/that-70s-myth-did-climate-science-really-call-for-a-coming-ice-age/

But people who obsess about these few instances of cooling-focused press are being a bit selective. It’s not as if the concept of global warming was absent from the 1970s media (or even the 1950s or 1960s media). A 1977 New York Times headline read “Climate Peril May Force Limits on Coal and Oil, Carter Aide Says,” for example. Two years later the same paper ran a story that began, “There is a real possibility that some people now in their infancy will live to a time when the ice at the North Pole will have melted, a change that would cause swift and perhaps catastrophic changes in climate.” And the better stories about aerosol pollution all mentioned the warming influence of CO2 emissions.

As for the actual scientific debate about the net effect of aerosols and CO2, it was pretty well settled before the calendar flipped to 1980. Columbia University’s Wally Broecker wrote a 1975 paper (which was also covered in The New York Times) that argued that anthropogenic warming was due to resume; it even correctly estimated the amount of warming we would see before the close of the 20th century. A notable 1978 paper led by NASA’s James Hansen used the 1963 eruption of Mount Agung to refine models of aerosols.

And in 1979, the US National Academy of Sciences published a new report chaired by MIT’s Jule Charney. Rather than lamenting our inability to predict climate changes, this landmark “Charney Report” focused on quantifying Earth’s climatic sensitivity to atmospheric CO2.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s.htm

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1
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RCtheWSBC posted...

This dude thinks we're clicking anything he posts

It's funny, he keeps doing it.

"Making arguments is hard I'll just post videos no one will watch"

At least the name is fitting
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Co2 isn't even the worst pollutant... water vapour is. All the water we boil for, well, pretty much life to exist (cooking, industry, aircraft) has a sort of "clotting" effect when it mixes with Co2... Essentially, every tonnage of Co2 gas doubles the effect of every tonnage of water vapour in terms of greenhouse gas effect
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Lokarin posted...

Co2 isn't even the worst pollutant... water vapour is. All the water we boil for, well, pretty much life to exist (cooking, industry, aircraft) has a sort of "clotting" effect when it mixes with Co2... Essentially, every tonnage of Co2 gas doubles the effect of every tonnage of water vapour in terms of greenhouse gas effect

When's the last time it rained carbon dioxide
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BlackScythe0 posted...

TheWorstPoster posted...

Here is Bill Whittle's take on this issue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_RuverrEZ4

Who cares? Just the title "Bill Nye the science lie" is enough to tell you the video is going to be an outpouring of ignorant bull shit.

Please, stop quoting ICO.. some of us have him blocked because it's been long established he lacks the faculties for socioeconomic discussions. >__<'
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There are really people that argue that water vapor, something that occurs as part of the water cycle, is a pollutant... oh my
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Doctor Foxx posted...

There are really people that argue that water vapor, something that occurs as part of the water cycle, is a pollutant... oh my

CO2 occurs naturally too but it's a pollutant...oh my.

Fucking lol. Classic Doctor "this is my agenda and I'm sticking to it" Foxx.
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Well Foxx, I don't think you should vote for Trump next election.
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Veedrock- posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

There are really people that argue that water vapor, something that occurs as part of the water cycle, is a pollutant... oh my

CO2 occurs naturally too but it's a pollutant...oh my.

Fucking lol. Classic Doctor "this is my agenda and I'm sticking to it" Foxx.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/water-vapor-greenhouse-gas.htm
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dont see why we signed it in the first place. other countries were allowed to keep doing things like producing coal while we were supposed to stop. makes zero sense.

if it's about the enviroment then all countries should slow down and stop.
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Melon_Master posted...

Please, stop quoting ICO.. some of us have him blocked because it's been long established he lacks the faculties for socioeconomic discussions. >__<'

Seriously. Why all the ICO apologists today?
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TheWorstPoster posted...

Jiggy101011 posted...

Well when part of New York is under water in 15 years people will start caring and we can point and laugh at them and say "told you so!"

But that's what they said 15 years ago!

Shut the fuck up you useless parasite.
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Veedrock- posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

There are really people that argue that water vapor, something that occurs as part of the water cycle, is a pollutant... oh my

CO2 occurs naturally too but it's a pollutant...oh my.

Fucking lol. Classic Doctor "this is my agenda and I'm sticking to it" Foxx.

It is not part of the water cycle, in case you missed that

Many naturally occurring things can pollute or contaminate so your point?
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

other countries were allowed to keep doing things like producing coal while we were supposed to stop. makes zero sense.

if it's about the enviroment then all countries should slow down and stop.

did you actually read it or nah?
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Zangulus posted...

Veedrock- posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

There are really people that argue that water vapor, something that occurs as part of the water cycle, is a pollutant... oh my

CO2 occurs naturally too but it's a pollutant...oh my.

Fucking lol. Classic Doctor "this is my agenda and I'm sticking to it" Foxx.

Holy shit. Did it hurt when you slammed your head into whatever object necessary to actually make that comparison make sense to you?

I like that it was edited multiple times when I didn't respond within a minute or two. crikey
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Can a judge rescind this, like what happened with the travel ban ? Any Constitutional lawyers around ?
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Smarkil posted...

Well Foxx, I don't think you should vote for Trump next election.

Probably a good plan

That climate change tho :(
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There's going to be a next election?
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Zangulus posted...

Holy s***. Did it hurt when you slammed your head into whatever object necessary to actually make that comparison make sense to you?

It was pointing out a hypocrisy in her juvenile fallacy, not making an argumentative comparison.

Kudos for devolving to insults without even understanding the post. Ass.

Doctor Foxx posted...

I like that it was edited multiple times when I didn't respond within a minute or two. crikey

I typically edit my posts several times after posting. It's pretty common across all of my posts. I'm indecisive. Deal with it.
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Lightning Bolt posted...

Melon_Master posted...

Please, stop quoting ICO.. some of us have him blocked because it's been long established he lacks the faculties for socioeconomic discussions. >__<'

Seriously. Why all the ICO apologists today?

Trolls, I would imagine.
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I'm convinced the GOP is the party of total madness. Not worth trying to reason with any of them directly when their science comes from big business conspiracy theorists the church and scientists in that order.

Mostly I just go after God and sometimes the rest of the dominoes fall. That's why I stopped being an avid supporter. When you believe your political opponents literally murder children you might just believe anything.

@RCtheWSBC

i just want to point out this post

RCtheWSBC posted...

Krazy_Kirby posted...

other countries were allowed to keep doing things like producing coal while we were supposed to stop. makes zero sense.

if it's about the enviroment then all countries should slow down and stop.

did you actually read it or nah?

and then i want to point out this post


RCtheWSBC posted...

This dude thinks we're clicking anything he posts

im pretty sure the left is the side that is supposed to be open minded and caring and all that hippie dippie shit isnt it?
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I don't understand how that negates anything

I asked that poster if he read the actual agreement (if he said no, I was going to post the language)

ICOYAR is posting some third-party opinion vlogs...how is that the same? everyone and their grandma knows about ICOYAR by now, and rarely anyone takes him seriously.
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Troll_Police_ posted...

im pretty sure the left is the side that is supposed to be open minded and caring and all that hippie dippie shit isnt it?

No, the left is meant to be in line with sense.

I don't even like how we use left and right. It implies there's any kind of parallel.

jamieyello3 posted...

I don't even like how we use left and right.

I also don't know why that was relevant to what I said, either

I think anyone across the political spectrum can recognize that ICOYAR has rarely argued in good faith on here
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