Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Mega Man X, Sephiroth, Yuna and Ifrit vs. Zeratul, D.Va, Fetch and Elma

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Mega Man X, Sephiroth, Yuna and Ifrit have challenged Zeratul, D.Va, Fetch and Elma to a fight! Location of the fight: Maverick Hunter Base - As seen in the second battle with Dynamo in Mega Man X5, a fairly small square room with a high roof. Any background features are inoperable and access to the rest of the base is banned. Both teams will start on opposite ends of the terrain.. Which side will win?


Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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Sephiroth has KO'd Knuckles the Echidna, mounting his body on a stake. The stake will be placed on the terrain for the enemy to see, terrifying them and lowering their morale.

D.Va is as seen in Overwatch and its official cinematics.

Fetch is as seen in inFamous: First Light with access to all of her skill trees, fully upgraded (with the exception of Unleashed abilities). She will always have two sources of neon present (enough to refill her fully, each) at her team's starting position, regardless of the terrain chosen for the fight.

Zeratul is as he appears in the Starcraft series and Heroes of the Storm, with all of his skills other than Void Prison. His cloaking works as it does in HotS, invisible until either he attacks or is damaged, at which point it takes a few seconds of non-action to reactivate.

Elma is as she is seen in Xenoblade Chronicles X in her mimeosome, a max level Full Metal Jaguar with all of her arts and skills fully upgraded. She has a Verus Cain skell, outfitted with its default Machine Gun, B-Claw, G Buster, SHD-Ray, Lasergun, and Grenade, along with a Beamsaber, Cracker-FL, Minigun, and Shield.
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~VS~

Yuna is as she is seen in Final Fantasy X. She has her complete sphere grid and access to all of her non-broken spells and gear. Yuna has brought Ifrit to help in battle. Yuna and the aeon will try to stay close together, with the aeon doing everything it can to protect Yuna over any other ally, but should Yuna fall in battle the aeon will vanish.

Ifrit has all of his default abilities, and in addition has Firaga, Protectga, and Cura, and may use his overdrive if sufficient overdrive has been built.

Mega Man X is as he appears in Mega Man X5, wearing his <armor> from that game. He has access to all his weapons save for Dark Hold or any Giga Attacks. He also has the ability to use Hastega from Tidus as a sub-weapon, though it will have a limited number of uses and more potent abilities will have less uses. He will arrive to battle 15 seconds late.

Sephiroth is as seen in Final Fantasy 7, Crisis Core, Dissidia, Advent Children Complete, and Kingdom Hearts 1&2, with access to all spells, materia, and abilities displayed within. This includes spells/abilities from Safer/Bizzaro Sephiroth, though he may not transform into either of those forms. He may not cast Heartless Angel, FFVII's Supernova, Pale Horse, Stop, or Break.

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A high-speed clash in a war-torn future awaits us! FIGHT!
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@Skyridge87
@Eddv

The floor is yours.
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The enemy team is TERRIFIED from seeing Knuckles impaled on a stake in the middle of this tiny room (https://i.gyazo.com/9e74c23dd35875b876c2c1f0f92b9884.png)

Sephiroth, knowing this because he was the one who did it, probably teleports over and fills the enemy team's side of the room with fire pillars (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm6ESPLuFvo&t=2m24s) or a meteor swarm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm6ESPLuFvo&t=2m55s) before they can do anything while Yuna and Ifrit throw down buffs. Elma's skell is so big that Seph is likely to go for his huge AoE attacks right off the bat, probably killing D.Va and Fetch in the crossfire since they have nowhere to run.

Then X shows up and cleans up what's left.

oh, and since Zeratul decloaks when taking damage, Sephiroth can gut him or Irfrit can pounce on him after the opening barrage.

Where dat Zero at tho
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Lopen posted...

Where dat Zero at tho

He wasn't sure WHAT HE WAS FIGHTING FORRRRRRRR
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So the lowered morale status probably is not all that bad here specifically because of the terrain being what it is. You dont need good morale or planning for a battle in a box and this is frankly a nightmare scenario for the opposing team to be stuck in a box with invisible assassin Zeratul.

He is going to be able to very quickly gank Yuna and get rid of the big fire monster (keep in mind he has enough telepathy to be able to suss out that basic relationship) and then in addition youre stuck in a box with Fetch who actually is at her MOST dangerous when she is upset and has an enemy in clear sight.

Throw in DVas blasting is going to be hard to dodge here AND that Elma in her skell has a damn array of missiles and guns and is a whole nightmare to take csre of all on her own. She wont be able to move around much - but she also doesnt really have to with all this support.

By the time X shows up Zeratul is ready for gank #2 and it basically snowballs from there.
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I mean frankly i feel like the gatling gun fire from the skell is gonna allow Fetch to get off a neon singularity and just wipe sephiroth as he is stuck there suspended intl the air easy target practicr for D Va and Elma and an easy gank for Zeratul.
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Trying to understand how Zeratul's telepathy would figure out that relationship. It seems pretty fake.
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Yuna has to give commands to ifrit, corrik. Naturally, Zeratul would be able to read this.
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Maybe if Zeratul had good cloaking he could get two ganks off
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So being terrified of the other team right off the bat on a small terrain seems really bad. On the other hand, Fetch is walking death
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I would sya it probably is effecting the performance and reaction times of D Va and Elma but Zeratul is pretty stoneyfaced and compared to the horrors of the Ultralisks a dead Knuckles is going to be something he can get over fairly quickly

As for Fetch - her fight or flight instincts definitely kick in and she becomes a terror.

In fact even in the case of D Va and Elma the fact that there is no where to go probably forces them to begin fighting which in their cases is both very simple - point gun in proper direction and fire. Nothing too fancy going on
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Lopen posted...

Maybe if Zeratul had good cloaking he could get two ganks off

I mean by the time X even shows up his cooldown should have expired.

Unless you have him jobbing pretty instantly to Sephiroth.

His weapons are pretty good versus X too - the Voidblades care a whole lot less about armor than most weaponry.
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I don't think he'll be able to recloak in this small room with Seph, who can quite literally fill the room with fire, meteors, and sword swipes, on the other team.
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Seph still has to deal with ffvii casting mechanics to at least some extent. I'd be pretty surprised if hes able to cast with impunity at all with all the guns and grenades and neon and what not.

But solid enough point.

Still being stuck in a melee with Zeratul is no picnic especially for X who is going to land in this big pile of chaos.

Fetch in particular is going to really be able to give Sephiroth hell with her speed and ability to use Neon as restraints.let alone her actual big attacks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsrubmlSiOM

Ill call attention here to just how QUICKLY all of her stuff gets used here.

Throw in that she has a healing factor, can be healed by sucking in neon which is present and can go intangible in bursts and shes going to be hard to deal with especially since in their mechs D Va and especially elma are going to be both hard to kill quickly and doling out a lot of punishment. If Fetch gets ofneon singularity or D Va gets her Ult those are basicallu match enders and i dont think that Seph and later X can really stop both
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what armor does x have

I believe its the Force Armor.
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Eddv posted...

Yuna has to give commands to ifrit, corrik. Naturally, Zeratul would be able to read this.

Why would he assume ifrit disappears if yuna dies. That is manufactured.
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At the very least an Ifrit not recieving commands anymore is an Ifrit that is less effective.

Regardless fine call me out on metagaming that one - but who is the guaranteed gank target of Seph, Yuna and Ifrit - its Yuna by a lot.
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HeroicGammaRay posted...

what armor does x have

How'd I miss that

Clarification: X is wearing his Force Armor from MMX5.
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The versus cain is also pretty legit here.

Like if youre gonna respect sephiroths sword strokes it has a giant beam saber in addition to it's stupidly powerful gatling and other missile weapons. It can even hover up and down for getting goo angles even in here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OM6hz5pu-E

It takes on giant Really durable enemies, many of its attacks are homing and it is a bitch and a half to take down even for giant monsters like those.
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I ain't even commentating on the winner or the general effectiveness of Seph here I just think the idea of Zeratul recloaking in these confined corners is outrageous and honestly even probably suboptimal.

Would say he more likely gets decloaked before warp blading a fool by stray offense than being cloaked twice.
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You know fair enough.

I hadnt really thought of it that way.
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Yeah I think he would be best suited to just going in regardless.

Which I mean, he will. He has blink and shadow assault anyway from HotS-- and if he's assassinating Yuna doesn't exactly need to be stealthy she ain't blocking it

Question is how well the demoralization causes hesitation-- which frankly on this terrain, the action is so furious to start I feel like lowered morale has less effect here. Though I'm not sure he can make the snap judgment, either. His buddy just got impaled by that silver haired warrior he might go for him first.
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Lopen posted...

Yeah I think he would be best suited to just going in regardless.

Which I mean, he will. He has blink and shadow assault anyway from HotS-- and if he's assassinating Yuna doesn't exactly need to be stealthy she ain't blocking it

Question is how well the demoralization causes hesitation-- which frankly on this terrain, the action is so furious to start I feel like lowered morale has less effect here. Though I'm not sure he can make the snap judgment, either. His buddy just got impaled by that silver haired warrior he might go for him first.

I mean my logic is that he is probably the least effected of the bunch to begin with hes pretty even keeled and is some kind of space buddhist templar thing so i feel like he would keep a decent chunk of his wits about him especislly since hes been involved in so many war scenarios.
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Random thought this terrain is way too small for a midgar-zolom esque stake in the middle of it, which is the image I have in mind when Seph mounted Knux on a stake. Who gets more or less hindered by that thing blocking so much of the arena. Or did Seph actually use a reasonably sized stake to mount Knuckles on that wouldn't occupy like 1/3 the fighting space. (yeah like Seph would ever use something of a reasonable size)

I think dwelling on stupid stuff like this means I should probably go to sleep.
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Lopen posted...

Random thought this terrain is way too small for a midgar-zolom esque stake in the middle of it, which is the image I have in mind when Seph mounted Knux on a stake. Who gets more or less hindered by that thing blocking so much of the arena. Or did Seph actually use a reasonably sized stake to mount Knuckles on that wouldn't occupy like 1/3 the fighting space. (yeah like Seph would ever use something of a reasonable size)

I think dwelling on stupid stuff like this means I should probably go to sleep.

I think its about a push honestly - the only character here to even want to utilize cover is D Va anyway.
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Elma is definitely on foot for the entire fight imo
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greengravy294 posted...

Elma is definitely on foot for the entire fight imo

yeah my first thought seeing this match was 'yesss let's argue about whether elma gets in the skell'
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Lets assume no one changes their mind from the last time ee had this debate - i still this is a match me team of cornered animals wins, Elma in the skell simply makes it super decisive.

Fetch + Zeratul + D Va is a bad combo for Sephiroth to deal with because fetch specifically is quick enough to keep up with his shenanigans and sllw him down and zeratul can really hurt him and D Va is basically designed to shoot in cllse quarters and blow things up while getting hit (her role is alt tank after all).
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I'm leaning toward Zeratul's team with MMX being late but how small is the terrain exactly? I don't think Zeratul stealth will play a factor if it's as small as it sounds wth the likely AOE everywhere
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I posted a picture in my opening post. That room is the entirety of the terrain

Oh. I legitimately thought that was a gif that wasn't loading
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okay so Fetch questionz

- How durable is Fetch?
- Can she attack while she's in pure neon form, or is that just a defensive/movement thing?
- How long does it take her to build up Neon Singularity? Also, used in a room like this, it's going to be wrecking friend and foe alike. Is that something a flipping out Fetch is likely to do?
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I'm not sure how D. VA's team will react to bring terrified. Would it be fair to say it probably causes a brief moment's hesitation? That could be huge on this terrain.
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Also, Fetch seems kinda unstable due to the whole addiction thing. The morale drop/terror from Knuckles getting skewered will probably mess her up a fair amount.

Gatarix posted...

okay so Fetch questionz

- How durable is Fetch?
- Can she attack while she's in pure neon form, or is that just a defensive/movement thing?
- How long does it take her to build up Neon Singularity? Also, used in a room like this, it's going to be wrecking friend and foe alike. Is that something a flipping out Fetch is likely to do?

When Fetch was hallucinating, she killed her brother on accident while attacking a hallucination, who is the one person she cared about afaik. I think friendly fire by her is totally plausible.
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Someone confirm that my Fetch research was a while ago and super brief
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Skyridge87 posted...

Also, Fetch seems kinda unstable due to the whole addiction thing. The morale drop/terror from Knuckles getting skewered will probably mess her up a fair amount.

Unstable can go both ways, though -- is she more a "flip out and go berserk" type or a "cower and cry" type.
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fetch has no problems killing DUP dudes so i dont think she's going to go insane/inert. those are some really, really radical interps on fetch. she just really, really hates drug dealers and people who have fucked with her. so she'll be "demoralized, but angry" really.
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Yeah, she leans more towards "I'm tweaking and armed with lasers, back the fuck off" sort of crazy
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Gatarix posted...

okay so Fetch questionz

- How durable is Fetch?
- Can she attack while she's in pure neon form, or is that just a defensive/movement thing?
- How long does it take her to build up Neon Singularity? Also, used in a room like this, it's going to be wrecking friend and foe alike. Is that something a flipping out Fetch is likely to do?

- Pretty durable. She is able to tank getting hit by a lot of attacks and a free fall from the tops of buildings without getting hurt
- She can do melee attacks (un neoning for a moment and going right back into it) but i dont think she can shoot while in that form
- it takes like 2-3 seconds I'll find video
- there are only a few co op sections of Infamous so its hard to say. She CAN catch innocent civilians in it so maybe? While pissed i could see her doing it even with allies around. The Versus Cain is heavy enough to not br effected though.
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MajinZidane posted...

Gatarix posted...

okay so Fetch questionz

- How durable is Fetch?
- Can she attack while she's in pure neon form, or is that just a defensive/movement thing?
- How long does it take her to build up Neon Singularity? Also, used in a room like this, it's going to be wrecking friend and foe alike. Is that something a flipping out Fetch is likely to do?

When Fetch was hallucinating, she killed her brother on accident while attacking a hallucination, who is the one person she cared about afaik. I think friendly fire by her is totally plausible.

I mean that was drugged out of her head Fetch which is a few bridges over from whats happening here though.

Plus she thought he was the DUP lady
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Pretty sure Seph and X can hit harder than "falling off the top of buildings"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IcjB7xdAQ0

Neon singularity all by itself.
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Skyridge87 posted...

Pretty sure Seph and X can hit harder than "falling off the top of buildings"

Theyre pretty tall buildings. And again it's not like "oh she lived" she is completely unscathed.
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I don't think the match lasts long enough either way for her to build up meter for neon singularity.
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