Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Elma/Fox/W 100/Sorey/MM/Zeratul vs. Bayonetta/Vergil/ Dizzy/Flynn/Haseo

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KanzarisKelshen
06/15/17 10:05:37 PM
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Elma, Fox, The Wonderful 100, Sorey, Lailah, Mega Man, Zeratul and Eddie have challenged Bayonetta, Vergil, Dizzy, Flynn and Haseo to a fight! Location of the fight: Grove - A forbidden area of the Devil's Forest where Dizzy attempts to seclude herself from the rest of the world, as it appears in Guilty Gear XX. Attackers and defenders will start separated by a distance of 10 meters.. Which side will win?


Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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-This match will end in 24 hours.
-The following conventions are in use for match topics: www.gamefaqs.com/boards/570224-mercs/75290480#2

Mega Man is as seen in Mega Man Series. He has access to his Mega Buster, his Magnet Beam, all of his weapons from the mainline Mega Man series (1-10) aside from the Time Stopper, Flash Stopper, Gravity Hold, Centaur Flash and Astro Crush and his moveset from Marvel vs Capcom 2, but may only use his hypers if he has enough meter and the necessary robots are present. He also has a variety of weapons based on his defeated foes, allowing him to use Diablo's Red Lightning Hose attack, as well as Cloud's Blade Beam. He is accompanied by Eddie.

Eddie is as he appears in the mainline Mega Man series. He is carrying one E-Tank, and will attempt to remain hidden until Mega Man is low on health, at which point he will attempt to give him the E-Tank.

Sorey is as he appears in Tales of Zestiria, with all orbs and talismans (though they buff only himself and his seraphim) and an endgame skill build. He enters the battle with 5 Blast Gauges and may armatize freely with his seraphim, Zeratul and the Wonderful 100 during the course of the battle, but armatization cannot be used to revive anyone. He does not have access to Siegfried.

Lailah is accompanying Sorey into battle. She is as she appears in Tales of Zestiria, with an endgame skill build. She will enter battle with 5 Blast Gauges.

Zeratul is as he appears in the Starcraft series and Heroes of the Storm, with all of his skills other than Void Prison. His cloaking works as it does in HotS, invisible until either he attacks or is damaged, at which point it takes a few seconds of non-action to reactivate.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/15/17 10:05:44 PM
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Elma is as she is seen in Xenoblade Chronicles X in her mimeosome, a max level Full Metal Jaguar with all of her arts and skills fully upgraded. She has a Verus Cain skell, outfitted with its default Machine Gun, B-Claw, G Buster, SHD-Ray, Lasergun, and Grenade, along with a Beamsaber, Cracker-FL, Minigun, and Shield. She and Mega Man will benefit from the effects of Blink for the first minute of the battle. She has come to battle riding Fenrir, Mega Man's motorcycle as seen in Advent Children Complete.

Fox McCloud is as he appears in the Star Fox series, piloting the fully upgraded Arwing in all-range mode as seen in Star Fox 64, coming in from the nearest convenient location to his team. He may leave the cockpit but will only have his Blaster from Star Fox: Assault if he does so. He has one bomb, which he is advised to use wisely, and is equipped with a Tiny Wonder Mask.

The Wonderful 100 are as they appear in their on-foot Unlimited Form in The Wonderful 101, with Red, Blue, Green, Pink, Yellow, White, Black, Vorkken, Chewgi, Immorta, and 90 civilians that are equipped with Tiny Wonder Masks. They have all their techniques (except Hero Block), moves, upgrades, and custom blocks (except Ukemi). They don't have any additional Tiny Wonder Masks. Each of them is piloting a fully upgraded Arwing in all-range mode as seen in Star Fox 64, coming in from the nearest convenient location to his team. They have one bomb each, which they are advised to use wisely. They may leave the cockpits of their Arwings at any time.

~VS~

Haseo has the best armor, weapons, and skills from the end of .hack//G.U. Vol. 2. He does not have access to any Alchemized items, the Doppleganger weapons, or battle items (potions, scrolls, etc.). He has teamed up with Dizzy and Vergil to use the Beast Awakening skill from .hack//G.U. Haseo and his two teammates will have their speed and strength doubled for the first 30 seconds of the fight. He has also been tempted to the dark side. He will gain a 50% strength boost, and any of his projectiles will become darkness based and gain slight homing properties. Lastly, his personality will be altered to care only for winning at any cost.

Flynn is as he appears by the end of Shin Megami Tensei IV, equipped with only the Plasma Sword, Plasma Gun, Almighty Rounds, White King armor set, and Hero Earrings. The only skills he has are all -dyne level elemental spells, Riot Gun, Debilitate, Luster Candy and Salvation. The only apps he has are MP Recovery 2 and Auto-Pinpoint, and he cannot summon.

Dizzy is as she appears in the Guilty Gear series, at the height of her powers, with access to all her moves other than gameplay mechanics, and she will not self destruct upon defeat. She will refuse to attack anyone unless attacked first.

Bayonetta is as she appears in Bayonetta 2, with all techniques and upgrades purchased, all her equippable weapons from Bayonetta 2, and the Eternal Testimony and Infernal Communicator accessories. She can't travel to other realms, use Torture Attacks, or perform Climax Attack summons, and her Witch Time only works as it does in gameplay.

Vergil is as he appears in Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition, with all of his weaponry, skills and techniques from his boss battles in DMC3 and playable form in DMC3 and 4, though he does not have his canon regen. He may access Devil Trigger for up to 15 seconds every 5 minutes.

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MajinZidane
06/15/17 10:06:26 PM
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KanzarisKelshen
06/15/17 10:06:37 PM
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@Luis_Sera89
@Eddv

The floor is yours.
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GANON1025
06/15/17 10:07:05 PM
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So many of my favorite characters on both sides
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Arti
06/15/17 10:07:48 PM
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Team 101 Fucking Arwings
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Eddv
06/15/17 10:07:49 PM
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So this match is obviously all about those Wonderful 100 + 1 Arwings so probably the first question is " do the 100 have any reason to be considered competent pilots"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTd7pQLoN6k


at 3:20 or so you can see members of the W100 using mechs, one of which is some sort of plane similar to an Arwings. Basically if you ever bought Rikku being able to pilot an Arwing then you should be able to buy them being able to.

They also have 101 Star Fox bombs which are pretty friggin baller.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T1zf6IJphA


At about 44 seconds and really all through this video. They just vaporize every thing and home and have incredible area of effect. Were not in a very wide terrain so this might be over in mere seconds

If that's not enough for you Sorey/Lailah actually have an answer to the buffs on the enemy team, able to steal the focus (speed mostly more like sukukaja in SMT if that's your deal) aspects of the enemies buffs for himself which can help to peel off the buffs on Haseo and Vergil. Lailah can also heal and Sorey is Armatized to all of the 101, including Fox, which can help bring them back from the brink.

In addition Mega Man has blade spam and red lightning hose and a variety of crowd control options including MORE BOMBS, Black Hole bombs to hold them in place and he and Elma begin the fight blinking providing them with the ability to shrug off a few direct hits.

Elma can give this status to pretty much everyone else via Ghost Factory and is herself no slouch in her flying fighting machine with its Gatling Guns, a ray gun, lasers, grenades, a nice shield and a beam saber.

Overall I recognize that he has some pretty nice mercs and nice buffs available but my team simply has too much going for it and have a hard time seeing anything beyond the 101 bombs really mattering in this match
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Johnbobb
06/15/17 10:07:56 PM
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really difficult to not just immediately vote for 101 Arwings
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Eddv
06/15/17 10:09:05 PM
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That's sort of the point jb
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KanzarisKelshen
06/15/17 10:12:08 PM
#10:


Not voting yet because I'm an admin and supposed to be impartial, but

Johnbobb posted...
really difficult to not just immediately vote for 101 Arwings


Will wait for Luis before casting a vote.
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GANON1025
06/15/17 10:12:48 PM
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Well, most of the Wonderful 100 are civilians. The best you can say is that they are military or police officers.
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HeroicGammaRay
06/15/17 10:14:21 PM
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arwings probably the most busted team in a fight ever except that time laharl was in a fight
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KanzarisKelshen
06/15/17 10:15:03 PM
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GANON1025 posted...
Well, most of the Wonderful 100 are civilians. The best you can say is that they are military or police officers.


So are you saying Wonder Patissiere SOLOS?
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Eddv
06/15/17 10:16:47 PM
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GANON1025 posted...
Well, most of the Wonderful 100 are civilians. The best you can say is that they are military or police officers.


They all have the tiny wonder masks i got the upgrade - but they do all (or mostly) have training with flying vehicles. Plus theyre all trusting their instincts.
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GANON1025
06/15/17 10:19:38 PM
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Of course, with the wonder masks they are every strong even the civilians. Just pointing out that they may not all be ace pilots (unless they have a chance to train before the fight?).
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Eddv
06/15/17 10:22:55 PM
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Fortunately were all pretty close to the objective so rudimentary skill is all they really need
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trdl23
06/15/17 10:29:09 PM
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As awesome as 101 Arwings are, it's important to note that they are in a forest, 10 meters from the enemy team and surrounded by trees. We know they must be near ground level or else they wouldn't actually be 10 meters away.

Am I the only one seeing a pileup of disasterrific proportions?
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Eddv
06/15/17 10:30:16 PM
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trdl23 posted...
As awesome as 101 Arwings are, it's important to note that they are in a forest, 10 meters from the enemy team and surrounded by trees. We know they must be near ground level or else they wouldn't actually be 10 meters away.

Am I the only one seeing a pileup of disasterrific proportions?


Remember they are coming in from the nearest convenient location. That language is there to specifically quash arguments like that
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KanzarisKelshen
06/15/17 10:30:25 PM
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trdl23 posted...
As awesome as 101 Arwings are, it's important to note that they are in a forest, 10 meters from the enemy team and surrounded by trees. We know they must be near ground level or else they wouldn't actually be 10 meters away.

Am I the only one seeing a pileup of disasterrific proportions?


There's at least some room. The terrain expands to fit all the Arwings as per the conventions, just to clarify this.
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trdl23
06/15/17 10:39:48 PM
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Eddv posted...
trdl23 posted...
As awesome as 101 Arwings are, it's important to note that they are in a forest, 10 meters from the enemy team and surrounded by trees. We know they must be near ground level or else they wouldn't actually be 10 meters away.

Am I the only one seeing a pileup of disasterrific proportions?


Remember they are coming in from the nearest convenient location. That language is there to specifically quash arguments like that

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StealThisSheen
06/15/17 10:50:28 PM
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Team Wonderful 101 Fucking Arwings
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Lopen
06/15/17 10:51:37 PM
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I honestly don't see why the wisest way to use your bombs is to just bombing run the enemy team and yeah it seems to have no counter whatsoever
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KJH
06/16/17 12:04:13 AM
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Team Wonderful 101 Arwings

Good god.
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MajinZidane
06/16/17 12:09:44 AM
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101 arwings or 11 Lightnings who ya got
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Eddv
06/16/17 12:16:41 AM
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101 arwings ofc
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Lopen
06/16/17 12:19:01 AM
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I would need at minimum 51 Lightnings to even humor taking them over 101 Arwings.
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MajinZidane
06/16/17 12:26:34 AM
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lmfao
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ZeeksFire
06/16/17 12:44:52 AM
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Humerously, I can see first firing the swarm of 101 bombs (DIPLOMACY HAS FAILED!)... then the 100 and fox taking the form of an arwing to fire more blasts and bombs.
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MenuWars
06/16/17 1:33:41 AM
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Double speed and stength Dizzy and Vergil is pretty fucking insane here, Dizzy can easily tank a couple bombs from Arwings, she kills Gears on the regular... unless these are the most bad ass Arwings I've ever seen... and all their damage is basically aoe so she's gonna be in the fight way before that buff wears off, and in open territory where she can actually use her full strength.

Stupidly op Dizzy and Vergil
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Corrik
06/16/17 1:34:54 AM
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How well can the wonderful 101 pilot?
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KanzarisKelshen
06/16/17 1:36:21 AM
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Corrik posted...
How well can the wonderful 101 pilot?


rtfa
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Eddv
06/16/17 1:36:31 AM
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Decently well - i posted video of the vehicle flown in W101 . I'm not saying they're all foxs equals or anything but flying in and dropping bombs is well within their capability
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Corrik
06/16/17 1:36:45 AM
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I don't know what that means.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/16/17 1:37:40 AM
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'read the f[...] arguments', lol. Eddv already did a sale!
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Eddv
06/16/17 1:38:18 AM
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MenuWars posted...
Double speed and stength Dizzy and Vergil is pretty fucking insane here, Dizzy can easily tank a couple bombs from Arwings, she kills Gears on the regular... unless these are the most bad ass Arwings I've ever seen... and all their damage is basically aoe so she's gonna be in the fight way before that buff wears off, and in open territory where she can actually use her full strength.

Stupidly op Dizzy and Vergil


Theres 101 Star Fox bombs. These are essentially nukes. They completely vaporize everything on screen in Star Fox.

And there are 101 of them
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MenuWars
06/16/17 1:41:15 AM
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I don't buy SF Arwing bombs being as strong as nukes, they're powerful sure but how do they even target Vergil moving at double speed? and Arwing's are pretty brittle, regular strength Dizzy has been shown to demonstrably nuke. Sending her into a rage here just makes things worse with double speed and strength.

Everyone gets flat out blown to smithereens though. Even Bayo, which says alot.
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Corrik
06/16/17 1:41:50 AM
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KanzarisKelshen posted...
'read the f[...] arguments', lol. Eddv already did a sale!

Yeah, except he is generally not credible due to wanting his own team to win.


I think team bayo and company totally mops up on the ground. The 100 or so arwings basically are inneffective at the start due to what I believe is terrain visibility and teammate clause. They won't be carpet bombing on top of their own team which at 10 meters away and double speed mercs and such is gonna be on top of each other.


That said, then how bad does the visibility affect them? Are they skilled enough to continually dodge their own 101 arwings in the terrain space? There is a difference between competent pilot and basically flying through an asteroid field of arwings.

That said, can the bayo ground team even kill the arwings at any point anyways? Interesting match.
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MenuWars
06/16/17 1:44:03 AM
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Dizzy can tank, and throw nukes Corrik. The only reason she won't if she's goes un attacked which isn't happening in this fight.

and note she can do that without double strength and speed. That buff makes her sickening.
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X_Dante_X
06/16/17 1:45:03 AM
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100 arwings divebomb the forest with bombs, one flies upward to ensure mutually assured destruction doesn't occur
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Corrik
06/16/17 1:45:09 AM
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MenuWars posted...
Dizzy can tank, and throw nukes Corrik. The only reason she won't if she's goes un attacked which isn't happening in this fight.

and note she can do that without double strength and speed. That buff makes her sickening.

Terrain issues affect the ground as well as the air. They do not affect just one side. I need to look into the terraij a bit more.
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06/16/17 1:45:34 AM
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X_Dante_X posted...
100 arwings divebomb the forest with bombs, one flies upward to ensure mutually assured destruction doesn't occur

Teammate clause. This is not a legit scenario.
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Eddv
06/16/17 1:45:49 AM
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"Arwings pretty brittle"

its a fucking space ship dude!

Also the bombs have homing and they have a wide AoE and to top it all off they are called Nova bombs, nova in general indicating the power of a star going nova aka a nuclear explosion.

Plus as i said in my argument lailah can literally sap speed buffs
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06/16/17 1:45:57 AM
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the last arwing is just chillin
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06/16/17 1:46:24 AM
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Corrik posted...

Teammate clause. This is not a legit scenario.


sure is
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06/16/17 1:47:07 AM
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Zeratul could pull off an easy kill at the start of he attacks anyone but bayonetta and if an arwing doesn't do some minor damage to decloak him incidentally.
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MenuWars
06/16/17 1:47:28 AM
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Eddv posted...
"Arwings pretty brittle"

its a fucking space ship dude!

Also the bombs have homing and they have a wide AoE and to top it all off they are called Nova bombs, nova in general indicating the power of a star going nova aka a nuclear explosion.

Plus as i said in my argument lailah can literally sap speed buffs



She's got to get chance to do so first an starts ten meters (mb still not a large distance) in front of a double speed vergil, get outta here with that nonsense.
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Corrik
06/16/17 1:47:39 AM
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X_Dante_X posted...
Corrik posted...

Teammate clause. This is not a legit scenario.


sure is

It specifically is not under the ideal teammate clause, but I am not arguing common sense.
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Lopen
06/16/17 1:49:27 AM
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MenuWars posted...
Dizzy can easily tank a couple bombs from Arwings


Certainly possible

Not sure how it's relevant considering there are over 50 times that but certainly possible
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06/16/17 1:50:53 AM
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The team bayo leader should be showing me how dense this forest is.
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MenuWars
06/16/17 1:51:16 AM
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Lopen posted...
MenuWars posted...
Dizzy can easily tank a couple bombs from Arwings


Certainly possible

Not sure how it's relevant considering there are over 50 times that but certainly possible



As Corrik said, they're not just gonna drop their whole load onto their own team mates. Right off the bat.
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