Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 111: But, His Emails

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Dancedreamer
07/11/17 3:53:39 PM
#101:


I don't think anyone seriously thinks Trump will be impeached. The Republican party are too cowardly to do that.
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MoogleKupo141
07/11/17 3:54:33 PM
#102:


Jakyl25 posted...
Also:

Vlado posted...
Do tell me this: What crime exactly was committed by Don Jr. here?


For one, Obstruction of Justice by not providing this information the first time he was subpoena'd for it by a federal investigation.


pfft whatever

name three more crimes. It only counts if he did at least four crimes.
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Corrik
07/11/17 3:55:23 PM
#103:


So sounds like Donald Trump Jr. Is probably guilty of some sort of crime (i think) and will be probably just get pardoned by his father I guess?
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FFDragon
07/11/17 3:57:02 PM
#104:


Yeah I do think nothing will happen to Trump himself, but Junior is in hot water right now and The Kush isn't looking much better,
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Corrik
07/11/17 3:58:01 PM
#105:


This goes back to my assertion that Trump really is not gonna rerun is he?
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 3:58:08 PM
#106:


Corrik posted...
So sounds like Donald Trump Jr. Is probably guilty of some sort of crime (i think) and will be probably just get pardoned by his father I guess?


Kushner is hypothetically in deeper doo-doo here since he has an actual role in the administration and never disclosed this until now.
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LordoftheMorons
07/11/17 3:59:18 PM
#107:


I'd like to briefly interrupt this dumpster fire to say 'fuck you' to Ted Cruz and his garbage BCRA amendment:

https://twitter.com/charles_gaba/status/884778069906653184
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SupremeZero
07/11/17 3:59:55 PM
#108:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Also:

Vlado posted...
Do tell me this: What crime exactly was committed by Don Jr. here?


For one, Obstruction of Justice by not providing this information the first time he was subpoena'd for it by a federal investigation.


pfft whatever

name three more crimes. It only counts if he did at least four crimes.

Obstruction, Collusion, Espionage, Treason. That's four.

Yes, Espionage and Treason are separate.
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 3:59:57 PM
#109:


Corrik posted...
This goes back to my assertion that Trump really is not gonna rerun is he?


How will he spin that decision though?

I think it depends on 2018. If there's a Dem swing I think he'll bail.
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Not_an_Owl
07/11/17 4:00:35 PM
#110:


Corrik posted...
This goes back to my assertion that Trump really is not gonna rerun is he?

Again, he registered his re-election campaign the day he was inaugurated. He is going to run unless he is impeached or dead.
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ChaosTonyV4
07/11/17 4:01:38 PM
#111:


Corrik posted...
This goes back to my assertion that Trump really is not gonna rerun is he?


I think you're right, but I wouldn't be surprised if he says he is long enough to prevent Republicans from cultivating a good replacement.

Not to screw the GOP, but because he's selfish and wants all that campaign money / attention he gets.
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 4:02:20 PM
#112:


Not_an_Owl posted...

Again, he registered his re-election campaign the day he was inaugurated. He is going to run unless he is impeached or dead.


"Vote for me, and I'll release my pee tape!"

That might be hard to resist
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Peace___Frog
07/11/17 4:08:59 PM
#113:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20

110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52U.S.C.30121,36U.S.C. 510).

(h)Providing substantial assistance.

(1)No person shall knowingly provide substantial assistance in the solicitation, making, acceptance, or receipt of a contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d), and (g) of this section.

(2)No person shall knowingly provide substantial assistance in the making of an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement prohibited by paragraphs (e) and (f) of this section.

(i)Participation by foreign nationals in decisions involving election-related activities.A foreign national shall not direct, dictate, control, or directly or indirectly participate in the decision-making process of any person, such as a corporation, labor organization, political committee, or political organization with regard to such person's Federal or non-Federal election-related activities, such as decisions concerning the making of contributions, donations, expenditures, or disbursements in connection with elections for any Federal, State, or local office or decisions concerning the administration of a political committee.



Emphasis my own.
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mnkboy907
07/11/17 4:11:43 PM
#114:


Jakyl25 posted...
How will he spin that decision though?

He'll say America is officially great again and his work here is done. His supporters will believe it.
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Corrik
07/11/17 4:14:24 PM
#115:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Corrik posted...
This goes back to my assertion that Trump really is not gonna rerun is he?


I think you're right, but I wouldn't be surprised if he says he is long enough to prevent Republicans from cultivating a good replacement.

Not to screw the GOP, but because he's selfish and wants all that campaign money / attention he gets.

Aoparently the Rock just filed paperwork for it. Lol
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Corrik
07/11/17 4:15:37 PM
#116:


Peace___Frog posted...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20

110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52U.S.C.30121,36U.S.C. 510).

(h)Providing substantial assistance.

(1)No person shall knowingly provide substantial assistance in the solicitation, making, acceptance, or receipt of a contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d), and (g) of this section.

(2)No person shall knowingly provide substantial assistance in the making of an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement prohibited by paragraphs (e) and (f) of this section.

(i)Participation by foreign nationals in decisions involving election-related activities.A foreign national shall not direct, dictate, control, or directly or indirectly participate in the decision-making process of any person, such as a corporation, labor organization, political committee, or political organization with regard to such person's Federal or non-Federal election-related activities, such as decisions concerning the making of contributions, donations, expenditures, or disbursements in connection with elections for any Federal, State, or local office or decisions concerning the administration of a political committee.



Emphasis my own.

The bolded is not provable in any way nor even necessarily true here.
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FFDragon
07/11/17 4:16:39 PM
#117:


I mean, he took the meeting having been told this:

Jakyl25 posted...
"This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump."

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Peace___Frog
07/11/17 4:19:29 PM
#118:


Corrik posted...
The bolded is not provable in any way nor even necessarily true here.

He admitted that he intended to do so.
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LordoftheMorons
07/11/17 4:19:37 PM
#119:


https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/884847428263751680

Fuck you Mitch
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Peace___Frog
07/11/17 4:21:13 PM
#120:


"Unprecedented" yeah right
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Dark Young Link
07/11/17 4:21:35 PM
#121:


People taking Valdo seriously in 2017?
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 4:23:17 PM
#122:


Obstructionism by Republicans who won't vote for his Health Care bill maybe
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Dancedreamer
07/11/17 4:25:20 PM
#123:


If this were Hillary instead of Trump, there'd already be impeachment proceedings. And the same people saying this is nothing would be saying that this is everything.
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ChaosTonyV4
07/11/17 4:25:21 PM
#124:


Dark Young Link posted...
People taking Valdo seriously in 2017?


Who?
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LapisLazuli
07/11/17 4:25:24 PM
#125:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/884847428263751680

Fuck you Mitch


XD Republicans crying about obstructionism.
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Peace___Frog
07/11/17 4:26:59 PM
#126:


Dancedreamer posted...
If this were Hillary instead of Trump, there'd already be impeachment proceedings. And the same people saying this is nothing would be saying that this is everything.

Keep in mind that the people who say this is nothing are the same people who believed podesta was using a rudimentary code to talk about molesting children.

They only see what they want to see.
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Peace___Frog
07/11/17 4:27:36 PM
#127:


Also let's be real, they want to cancel the recess because they don't want to have to meet their constituents.
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Dark Young Link
07/11/17 4:29:46 PM
#128:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Dark Young Link posted...
People taking Valdo seriously in 2017?


Who?


Oh I guess I mean "acknowledging Vlado" to be fair.



Also...

LapisLazuli posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/884847428263751680

Fuck you Mitch


XD Republicans crying about obstructionism.


Oh it doesn't count when they do it.
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Corrik
07/11/17 4:30:31 PM
#129:


Peace___Frog posted...
Corrik posted...
The bolded is not provable in any way nor even necessarily true here.

He admitted that he intended to do so.

He admitted he wanted to learn information. From what I understand, he is not even in the decision making nor can it be proven to have influenced decision making.

He is probably guilty of something I'd guess but I don't think your bolded part.
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FFDragon
07/11/17 4:30:33 PM
#130:


Hey, I just want more USA Fanfiction. That was one of the highlights of this topic series.
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FFDragon
07/11/17 4:31:30 PM
#131:


Corrik posted...
He admitted he wanted to learn information. From what I understand, he is not even in the decision making nor can it be proven to have influenced decision making.


FFDragon posted...
"Donald Trump Jr was a low level staffer in the Trump campaign and has never actually met the President. President Trump has no children. Period." - Sean Spicer, tomorrow, probably

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Not_an_Owl
07/11/17 4:31:40 PM
#132:


Peace___Frog posted...
Also let's be real, they want to cancel the recess because they don't want to have to meet their constituents.

Right now there's a group of about 9 GOP senators holding out against the BCRA, either because it's too far to the right or not far enough. The longer those holdouts are in Washington, the more time Mitch and his cronies have to work on them; the more time said holdouts spend in their home states, the more they'll hear about how their constituents don't want the bill to pass.
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Peace___Frog
07/11/17 4:37:12 PM
#133:


FFDragon posted...
Corrik posted...
He admitted he wanted to learn information. From what I understand, he is not even in the decision making nor can it be proven to have influenced decision making.


FFDragon posted...
"Donald Trump Jr was a low level staffer in the Trump campaign and has never actually met the President. President Trump has no children. Period." - Sean Spicer, tomorrow, probably

Tfw moorick has drunk so much koolaid he can begin to produce his own
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/11/17 4:49:27 PM
#134:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Corrik posted...
...Again with no sources.


I dunno why you feel it's necessary to be so passive aggressive when we posted links directly to the source, Donald Trump Jr himself, in the last topic, and related links in the first page of this topic.

Would you have an easier time participating if every subsequent post linked directly to the original source so you don't have to do even the most basic amount of reading to catch up?

Come the fuck on, dude.


Corrik ascertains what annoys people and then does those things over and over. It was amusing for a while but I'm bored by it now.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/11/17 4:50:56 PM
#135:


Vlado posted...
lmao, you guys really live in an alternate reality. In 7 years, you'll probably still be going "Trump will be impeached ANY DAY NOW!"

Nothing in the e-mails incriminates Trump or his son in any way. Some American lawyer offered Don Jr. to meet some person who was supposedly from the Russian government and had some information on Clinton. However, that claim turned out to be bullshit, as the person is not in any way connected with the Russian government, nor did she give any information about Clinton. In the end, Don Jr. met some random person, and it was likely just a set up in the first place, so that you could see this ridiculous story.

Do tell me this: What crime exactly was committed by Don Jr. here?


He committed globalism
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Corrik
07/11/17 4:53:15 PM
#136:


Peace___Frog posted...
FFDragon posted...
Corrik posted...
He admitted he wanted to learn information. From what I understand, he is not even in the decision making nor can it be proven to have influenced decision making.


FFDragon posted...
"Donald Trump Jr was a low level staffer in the Trump campaign and has never actually met the President. President Trump has no children. Period." - Sean Spicer, tomorrow, probably

Tfw moorick has drunk so much koolaid he can begin to produce his own

I just don't think you know how the court system works. If someone says they want to rob a store. Take a gun to a store. Intend to rob the store. But do not rob the store, they are not guilty of robbery.

I think Trump JR is prob guilty of something. Just not what you bolded in your post.
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Corrik
07/11/17 4:53:54 PM
#137:


Not_an_Owl posted...
Peace___Frog posted...
Also let's be real, they want to cancel the recess because they don't want to have to meet their constituents.

Right now there's a group of about 9 GOP senators holding out against the BCRA, either because it's too far to the right or not far enough. The longer those holdouts are in Washington, the more time Mitch and his cronies have to work on them; the more time said holdouts spend in their home states, the more they'll hear about how their constituents don't want the bill to pass.

What is the BCRA?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/11/17 4:54:42 PM
#138:


Vlado posted...
FFDragon posted...
oh hi @Vlado

while you're here can we have the next chapter of usa fanfiction

Don't get me wrong. I'm not going to be posting in this echo chamber.

Dancedreamer posted...
Assange was never about transparency. He's always been about his agenda. Snowden was about transparency.

You were singing a very different tune when Assange was releasing documents revealing Dubya's wrongdoings... Sucks to be on the losing side, eh?

Jakyl25 posted...
Wow you know things are bad when Vlado feels the need to come in and spin things

ANY DAY NOW!


Ask ertyu what tornadoman thinks about all of this
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FFDragon
07/11/17 4:55:25 PM
#139:


Corrik posted...
I just don't think you know how the court system works. If someone says they want to rob a store. Take a gun to a store. Intend to rob the store. But do not rob the store, they are not guilty of robbery.


This is however conspiracy to commit.
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Eddv
07/11/17 4:55:26 PM
#140:


FFDragon posted...
Yeah I do think nothing will happen to Trump himself, but Junior is in hot water right now and The Kush isn't looking much better,


I think the assertion that Don Sir knew nothing looks less and less likely by the second
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 4:56:53 PM
#141:


Corrik posted...
He admitted he wanted to learn information. From what I understand, he is not even in the decision making nor can it be proven to have influenced decision making.


In the campaign? Of course he was! That's why he's co-ordinating with Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager at the time, to attend the meeting. And he did!

And now Manafort is saying "yes I got this email and yes I went to the meeting but I never read it so I had no idea that this lawyer was supposedly with the Russian government."
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LordoftheMorons
07/11/17 4:57:07 PM
#142:


Corrik posted...
Not_an_Owl posted...
Peace___Frog posted...
Also let's be real, they want to cancel the recess because they don't want to have to meet their constituents.

Right now there's a group of about 9 GOP senators holding out against the BCRA, either because it's too far to the right or not far enough. The longer those holdouts are in Washington, the more time Mitch and his cronies have to work on them; the more time said holdouts spend in their home states, the more they'll hear about how their constituents don't want the bill to pass.

What is the BCRA?

The Senate's "healthcare" bill
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Not_an_Owl
07/11/17 4:57:53 PM
#143:


Corrik posted...
Not_an_Owl posted...
Peace___Frog posted...
Also let's be real, they want to cancel the recess because they don't want to have to meet their constituents.

Right now there's a group of about 9 GOP senators holding out against the BCRA, either because it's too far to the right or not far enough. The longer those holdouts are in Washington, the more time Mitch and his cronies have to work on them; the more time said holdouts spend in their home states, the more they'll hear about how their constituents don't want the bill to pass.

What is the BCRA?

Better Care Reconciliation Act, the Senate health care actually tax cuts for the 1% bill.
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Eddv
07/11/17 4:59:15 PM
#144:


FFDragon posted...
Corrik posted...
I just don't think you know how the court system works. If someone says they want to rob a store. Take a gun to a store. Intend to rob the store. But do not rob the store, they are not guilty of robbery.


This is however conspiracy to commit.


This. It most certainly proves intent, which is 90% of the law here and is in fact a crime all by itself as any episode of To Catch a Predator will tell you

Just like how in reverse. Clinton's saving grace was no one could prove intent and the evidence instead proved incompetence
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/11/17 5:01:46 PM
#145:


Peace___Frog posted...
Dancedreamer posted...
If this were Hillary instead of Trump, there'd already be impeachment proceedings. And the same people saying this is nothing would be saying that this is everything.

Keep in mind that the people who say this is nothing are the same people who believed podesta was using a rudimentary code to talk about molesting children.

They only see what they want to see.


To be fair though, I ordered Chinese broccoli one time and the restaurant brought me a 10 y/o girl. I was confused and ended up leaving. I was going to give the place 1 star on yelp but they said I didn't have to pay for my drinks, so I bumped it up to 2 stars
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 5:02:39 PM
#146:


Eddv posted...
This. It most certainly proves intent, which is 90% of the law here and is in fact a crime all by itself as any episode of To Catch a Predator will tell you



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FFDragon
07/11/17 5:04:13 PM
#147:


those guys bring condoms and porno

junior brings the campaign manager and his sister's husband

overt acts, yo. they make the conspiracy.
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Corrik
07/11/17 5:08:38 PM
#148:


FFDragon posted...
Corrik posted...
I just don't think you know how the court system works. If someone says they want to rob a store. Take a gun to a store. Intend to rob the store. But do not rob the store, they are not guilty of robbery.


This is however conspiracy to commit.

Like I said, I believe he is probably guilty of something.
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Corrik
07/11/17 5:09:26 PM
#149:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Corrik posted...
Not_an_Owl posted...
Peace___Frog posted...
Also let's be real, they want to cancel the recess because they don't want to have to meet their constituents.

Right now there's a group of about 9 GOP senators holding out against the BCRA, either because it's too far to the right or not far enough. The longer those holdouts are in Washington, the more time Mitch and his cronies have to work on them; the more time said holdouts spend in their home states, the more they'll hear about how their constituents don't want the bill to pass.

What is the BCRA?

The Senate's "healthcare" bill

Fuck that bill. Full repeal.
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TheRock1525
07/11/17 5:11:16 PM
#150:


Question.

They said that the meeting ended up being about adoption and that the claim to have dirt on Hillary was used as a way to schedule a meet.

Do we have any proof that the meeting ended up actually being about adoption?
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