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Peace___Frog
07/11/17 5:13:14 PM
#151:


TheRock1525 posted...
Question.

They said that the meeting ended up being about adoption and that the claim to have dirt on Hillary was used as a way to schedule a meet.

Do we have any proof that the meeting ended up actually being about adoption?

Very doubtful.

Also, anything regarding adoption with the Russians invariably means sanctions. So he's admitting to discussing sanctions, which is one of the things that ended up kicking flynn in the ass.
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banananor
07/11/17 5:19:29 PM
#152:


TheRock1525 posted...
Question.

They said that the meeting ended up being about adoption and that the claim to have dirt on Hillary was used as a way to schedule a meet.

Do we have any proof that the meeting ended up actually being about adoption?

no, of course not, but at the same time we have no proof it's about anything else
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TheRock1525
07/11/17 5:21:43 PM
#153:


banananor posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Question.

They said that the meeting ended up being about adoption and that the claim to have dirt on Hillary was used as a way to schedule a meet.

Do we have any proof that the meeting ended up actually being about adoption?

no, of course not, but at the same time we have no proof it's about anything else


We have proof that the meeting was supposed to be about incriminating information against the Clinton campaign.

Wouldn't the onus be on Don Jr to provide proof that it wasn't? Since all the proof that he's actually provided was that it was.
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xp1337
07/11/17 5:26:44 PM
#154:


FFDragon posted...
The new spin I'm seeing is that this was a long con by the DNC to make Trump look bad.

no wonder clinton lost

they spent all their time setting up elaborate schemes that would only matter in the event that they lost then realized all that work would be for naught if they won the election
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LordoftheMorons
07/11/17 5:28:18 PM
#155:


Yeah American adoption of Russian children was banned in response to US sanctions on Russia that were passed in response to Putin's thugs beating to death a journalist who exposed some of his dirt, so it's not an innocent issue anyway.
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Peace___Frog
07/11/17 5:30:13 PM
#156:


TheRock1525 posted...
Wouldn't the onus be on Don Jr to provide proof that it wasn't? Since all the proof that he's actually provided was that it was.

But then how will he deny it?
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Not_an_Owl
07/11/17 5:31:49 PM
#157:


Peace___Frog posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Wouldn't the onus be on Don Jr to provide proof that it wasn't? Since all the proof that he's actually provided was that it was.

But then how will he deny it?

Tapes of conversations about adoption, presumably.
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FFDragon
07/11/17 5:33:38 PM
#158:


“My son is a high-quality person and I applaud his transparency”


Is it transparency if you already lied about it on your security forms and you only posted it now because the NYT was going to run a story about it and Assange told you to do it through him?
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Peace___Frog
07/11/17 5:35:34 PM
#159:


It is if you call it so, apparently!
Just like how he's called himself honest. Words don't have meaning to him.
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Dark Young Link
07/11/17 5:36:54 PM
#160:


FFDragon posted...
“My son is a high-quality person and I applaud his transparency”


Is it transparency if you already lied about it on your security forms and you only posted it now because the NYT was going to run a story about it and Assange told you to do it through him?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiHN3IJ_j8A

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FFDragon
07/11/17 5:38:19 PM
#161:


also SHS sucks, I want Spicy back
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xp1337
07/11/17 5:38:56 PM
#162:


I think it's just an extension of his apparent philosophy that admitting being wrong/at fault is a sign of weakness and you should just double-down on everything and claim you were always right.

Its always been a very obvious facet of how he's operated during the campaign.
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TheRock1525
07/11/17 5:40:03 PM
#163:


FFDragon posted...
also SHS sucks, I want Spicy back


Spicer feels like a guy who took an absolutely awful job and is probably still a pretty decent guy.
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 5:44:49 PM
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Not_an_Owl
07/11/17 5:48:57 PM
#165:


TheRock1525 posted...
FFDragon posted...
also SHS sucks, I want Spicy back


Spicer feels like a guy who took an absolutely awful job and is probably still a pretty decent guy.

Nah, he knew exactly what he was getting into and decided he was okay with it. There are many, many people in the world who deserve your sympathy ahead of Sean Spicer.
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TheRock1525
07/11/17 5:52:17 PM
#166:


Not_an_Owl posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
FFDragon posted...
also SHS sucks, I want Spicy back


Spicer feels like a guy who took an absolutely awful job and is probably still a pretty decent guy.

Nah, he knew exactly what he was getting into and decided he was okay with it. There are many, many people in the world who deserve your sympathy ahead of Sean Spicer.


This very much feels like a "there's kid's starving in Africa" lecture.
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TheRock1525
07/11/17 5:53:06 PM
#167:


And let's be completely honest: a lot of us didn't know what we were getting into here when we got a Trump presidency. This is far worse than I imagined, to be honest. And I expected a pretty bad clown show!
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Dark Young Link
07/11/17 5:56:57 PM
#168:


I expected a lot more basic human rights to be overturned by now, so for me it's currently better than expected.


Of course when the bar starts off 6 feet underground....
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LordoftheMorons
07/11/17 5:58:11 PM
#169:


TheRock1525 posted...
And let's be completely honest: a lot of us didn't know what we were getting into here when we got a Trump presidency. This is far worse than I imagined, to be honest. And I expected a pretty bad clown show!

Really? It's about what I expected!
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TheRock1525
07/11/17 6:04:29 PM
#170:


Well excuse me for being the apparent optimist for thinking he'd only be one of the worst presidents ever.
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Dark Young Link
07/11/17 6:12:19 PM
#171:


I wouldn't call that sentiment inaccurate.
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LordoftheMorons
07/11/17 6:12:20 PM
#172:


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/travel-ban-iran-cancer-reseracher-boston-mohsen-dehnavi

Wow, I feel safer already
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TheRock1525
07/11/17 6:22:56 PM
#173:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/travel-ban-iran-cancer-reseracher-boston-mohsen-dehnavi

Wow, I feel safer already


Obviously he was taking away an American Cancer Research job.
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Wanglicious
07/11/17 6:29:16 PM
#174:


man i was wondering how the topic blew up so fast.
now i'm curious to see how far the don will go.

he's fully into the idea of family first, will he protect them at all costs, or will he let the law ruin his son and daughter's husband, knowing that he still has his favorite at his side?

wonder if there's any smoking gun on Ivanka.
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LordoftheMorons
07/11/17 6:38:55 PM
#175:


https://twitter.com/pourmecoffee/status/884800280751165441
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GuessMyUserName
07/11/17 6:52:14 PM
#176:


http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/07/11/betsy_devos_is_asking_men_s_rights_trolls_to_advise_her_on_campus_sexual.html
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LordoftheMorons
07/11/17 6:54:35 PM
#177:


GuessMyUserName posted...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/07/11/betsy_devos_is_asking_men_s_rights_trolls_to_advise_her_on_campus_sexual.html

Disgusting
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Dark Young Link
07/11/17 7:12:03 PM
#178:


Do you expect anything less from someone who got to their position via bribery?
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Dancedreamer
07/11/17 7:40:19 PM
#179:


https://www.bustle.com/p/this-arkansas-bill-would-force-rape-survivors-to-notify-their-attacker-if-they-need-abortion-67717

*Sigh* Arkansas. Always looking to move backwards.
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Dancedreamer
07/11/17 7:47:43 PM
#180:


not saying he’s a good guy,” Crouch said in 2014 of football player Ray Rice, who knocked out his then-girlfriend in an elevator. “But if she hadn’t aggravated him, she wouldn’t have been hit. They would say that’s blaming the victim. But I don’t buy it.”

I'm... not sure how anyone could begin to defend this statement. This is like... textbook victim blaming.
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GuessMyUserName
07/11/17 8:00:59 PM
#181:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/884805928872235009

Good timeline of events

so back to this timeline....

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/884900796957171712

June 7 - 5:16 PM - Don Jr. confirms meeting w/ Russian lawyer
June 7 - 9:13 PM Trump promises press conf the next week with Clinton dirt.
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FFDragon
07/11/17 8:07:12 PM
#182:


that's a yikes
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Dark Young Link
07/11/17 8:07:35 PM
#183:


Dancedreamer posted...
not saying he’s a good guy,” Crouch said in 2014 of football player Ray Rice, who knocked out his then-girlfriend in an elevator. “But if she hadn’t aggravated him, she wouldn’t have been hit. They would say that’s blaming the victim. But I don’t buy it.”

I'm... not sure how anyone could begin to defend this statement. This is like... textbook victim blaming.


That's because you're not paranoid enough.

These are the types of people who believe each and every woman out there(Or at least every American woman) are plotting together to make the lives of men a living hell... because. These are the type of people who don't even recognize women as actual people, and instead see them as "the enemy" to be conquered. These are people who can't wake up without needing to play the victim for any perceived injustice.



And I recall that incident. A certain user here immediately assumed the woman "must have done something".
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LordoftheMorons
07/11/17 8:11:15 PM
#184:


GuessMyUserName posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/884805928872235009

Good timeline of events

so back to this timeline....

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/884900796957171712

June 7 - 5:16 PM - Don Jr. confirms meeting w/ Russian lawyer
June 7 - 9:13 PM Trump promises press conf the next week with Clinton dirt.

Got 'em
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Wanglicious
07/11/17 8:24:42 PM
#185:


really wanting to see how many fall with him. that can run through so many people in the administration and vacate so many cabinet positions they'd have to get trump out for government to function properly.
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ChaosTonyV4
07/11/17 8:26:12 PM
#186:


June 7 - 5:16 PM - Don Jr. confirms meeting w/ Russian lawyer

June 7 - 9:13 PM Trump promises press conf the next week with Clinton dirt.

June 9: Trump Jr. meeting

June 12: Assange announces HRC leaks coming

June 15: Guccifer 2.0 launches on Wordpress


avZDxL1_d
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 8:53:11 PM
#187:


GuessMyUserName posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/884805928872235009

Good timeline of events

so back to this timeline....

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/884900796957171712

June 7 - 5:16 PM - Don Jr. confirms meeting w/ Russian lawyer
June 7 - 9:13 PM Trump promises press conf the next week with Clinton dirt.


Based on everything I've heard about Mueller, I am positive he is also privately examining the sequence of events
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 8:54:39 PM
#188:


Dark Young Link posted...
Dancedreamer posted...
not saying he’s a good guy,” Crouch said in 2014 of football player Ray Rice, who knocked out his then-girlfriend in an elevator. “But if she hadn’t aggravated him, she wouldn’t have been hit. They would say that’s blaming the victim. But I don’t buy it.”

I'm... not sure how anyone could begin to defend this statement. This is like... textbook victim blaming.


That's because you're not paranoid enough.

These are the types of people who believe each and every woman out there(Or at least every American woman) are plotting together to make the lives of men a living hell... because. These are the type of people who don't even recognize women as actual people, and instead see them as "the enemy" to be conquered. These are people who can't wake up without needing to play the victim for any perceived injustice.



And I recall that incident. A certain user here immediately assumed the woman "must have done something".


I'm going to go out on a limb and cut him some slack. His behavior has improved since then, unlike some others.
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GuessMyUserName
07/11/17 8:56:03 PM
#189:


https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/07/11/Foxs-chief-intelligence-correspondent-edited-out-mention-of-Russian-government-when-quotin/217211

Fox gonna Fox
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 8:59:29 PM
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 9:10:51 PM
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Peace___Frog
07/11/17 9:17:07 PM
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 9:31:52 PM
#193:


http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/07/11/georgia-police-beating-jnd-orig-vstop.cnn

Video footage surfaces of a Georgia police officer excessively (IMO) beating a homeless black woman while arresting her for begging on private property

The officer until now has been cleared of any wrongdoing by the department.

EDIT: Raw footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4CgEdA4-3Q


She clearly is not obeying his commands and some force is warranted, but that's over the line IMO.
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KamikazePotato
07/11/17 9:35:46 PM
#194:


Jakyl25 posted...
http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/07/11/georgia-police-beating-jnd-orig-vstop.cnn

Video footage surfaces of a Georgia police officer excessively (IMO) beating a homeless black woman while arresting her for begging on private property

The officer until now has been cleared of any wrongdoing by the department.

How utterly surprising.
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Nelson_Mandela
07/11/17 9:40:38 PM
#195:


Literally modded (and upheld) for arguing that Nazism is a Left wing ideology

This site, man
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Jakyl25
07/11/17 9:44:08 PM
#196:


Hey I was once modded and upheld for sarcastically calling Christianity a religion of peace.

We take our moderations in stride here!
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Mr Lasastryke
07/11/17 9:48:30 PM
#197:


posting false information as fact is moddable, yeah
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Reg
07/11/17 9:48:46 PM
#198:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Literally modded (and upheld) for arguing that Nazism is a Left wing ideology

This site, man

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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TheRock1525
07/11/17 9:54:53 PM
#199:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/884909163528245249

Hannity has SCOOPS


But only one to not upset his daddy.
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TheRock1525
07/11/17 9:56:16 PM
#200:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Literally modded (and upheld) for arguing that Nazism is a Left wing ideology

This site, man


Remember when those super left wing Nazis fought those super right wing Soviets?
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