Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 111: But, His Emails

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HaRRicH
07/11/17 10:01:38 PM
#201:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Literally modded (and upheld) for arguing that Nazism is a Left wing ideology

This site, man


Was the mod watching this?

https://twitter.com/IceManNYR/status/884933032016216065
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BowserCuffs
07/11/17 10:08:24 PM
#202:


Go tell a Neo-Nazi to their face that they're a liberal and lemme know how that works out for you.
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SupremeZero
07/11/17 10:20:32 PM
#203:


HaRRicH posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Literally modded (and upheld) for arguing that Nazism is a Left wing ideology

This site, man


Was the mod watching this?

https://twitter.com/IceManNYR/status/884933032016216065

*scrolls down to the comments for entertainment*

"Enjoy 8 years of Trump! Then 8 more years of Trump Jr!"

Apparently Trump Jr's now the next president because of this. No, this isn't some old comment, it was made an hour ago.
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Dark Young Link
07/11/17 10:24:07 PM
#204:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Literally modded (and upheld) for arguing that Nazism is a Left wing ideology

This site, man


Considering the amount of times you've gotten in trouble... I have to call your pattern recognition ability into question.

Also you know, casually implying people are Nazis rarely works out well in most areas.
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HaRRicH
07/11/17 10:25:07 PM
#205:


Donald Jr. just told Hannity he didn't tell his dad about this meeting because it was such a nothing-call. Contrast that with...


GuessMyUserName posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/884805928872235009

Good timeline of events

so back to this timeline....

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/884900796957171712

June 7 - 5:16 PM - Don Jr. confirms meeting w/ Russian lawyer
June 7 - 9:13 PM Trump promises press conf the next week with Clinton dirt.



...not a good look.
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Dark Young Link
07/11/17 10:27:39 PM
#206:


SupremeZero posted...
*scrolls down to the comments for entertainment*

"Enjoy 8 years of Trump! Then 8 more years of Trump Jr!"

Apparently Trump Jr's now the next president because of this. No, this isn't some old comment, it was made an hour ago.


You'd be surprised how many people think Godwin's Law is correctly used for any and all mentions of the word Hitler, regardless of context or how appropriate it may actually be.

Well that and trolls and actual people bending their knee to their "master" regardless of the situation.
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StartTheMachine
07/11/17 10:30:57 PM
#207:


Peace___Frog posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...
https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/07/11/Foxs-chief-intelligence-correspondent-edited-out-mention-of-Russian-government-when-quotin/217211

Fox gonna Fox

This is fucking disgusting.


Man, mere omission is pretty much a minute-by-minute routine for the folks at Fox. Let's not forget "Comey resigns" was an actual headline on the network at one point.
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HaRRicH
07/11/17 10:33:31 PM
#208:


Hey, didn't know this was going on -- Dems win two seats in OK where Donald won by 19 points and Romney won by 22/28 points.


https://twitter.com/DKElections/status/884950341610897408

Hot damn. Dems just flipped two dark-red, GOP-held seats in the Oklahoma legislature tonight! https://t.co/VGTsooZE8U
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LapisLazuli
07/11/17 10:36:01 PM
#209:


HaRRicH posted...
Hey, didn't know this was going on -- Dems win two seats in OK where Donald won by 19 points and Romney won by 22/28 points.


https://twitter.com/DKElections/status/884950341610897408

Hot damn. Dems just flipped two dark-red, GOP-held seats in the Oklahoma legislature tonight! https://t.co/VGTsooZE8U


!

But noooooo, after the GA election, not way are the dems gonna flip seats.
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SupremeZero
07/11/17 10:38:03 PM
#210:


There are Democrats in Oklahoma?
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HaRRicH
07/11/17 10:41:35 PM
#211:


I mean, probably. I hear Democrats are panhandlers, so what better state for them.....
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LordoftheMorons
07/11/17 10:44:54 PM
#212:


HaRRicH posted...
Hey, didn't know this was going on -- Dems win two seats in OK where Donald won by 19 points and Romney won by 22/28 points.


https://twitter.com/DKElections/status/884950341610897408

Hot damn. Dems just flipped two dark-red, GOP-held seats in the Oklahoma legislature tonight! https://t.co/VGTsooZE8U

This reminds me of the theory that the 538 guys had to explain the GA-6/SC-5 results: Dems are fired up either way, but bringing a ton of media attention to the race makes Republicans turn out too. They posited that races flying under the radar (like SC-5) might help Dems in these red districts.
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SgtSphynx
07/11/17 11:08:19 PM
#213:


https://twitter.com/AP/status/884970583552905216

The Associated Press
MSNBC host and former Congressman Joe Scarborough says he's leaving the Republican Party because of Trump.

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TheRock1525
07/11/17 11:09:46 PM
#214:


Oh god, the local news is doing the Terrorism Alert Desk which tells me it's owned my Sinclair Broadcast Company thanks to that John Oliver segment.
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SgtSphynx
07/11/17 11:10:50 PM
#215:


RIP
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SgtSphynx
07/11/17 11:11:17 PM
#216:


It's too bad they can't air the other segment from LWT as well
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ChaosTonyV4
07/11/17 11:26:18 PM
#218:


An obvious setup that wasn't capitalized on until after Trump won the election?

lmao that's good stuff
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LordoftheMorons
07/11/17 11:31:05 PM
#219:


Whenever I read the conservative media spin on the latest Trump scandal I always think to myself "there's no way anybody could possibly buy this"

And every time I'm proven wrong

Okay I'm not really surprised at this point, but come the fuck on
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LapisLazuli
07/11/17 11:39:59 PM
#220:


Oh god Ulti is memeing. That's how you know shit has gotten real bad.
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FFDragon
07/11/17 11:40:22 PM
#221:


FFDragon posted...
The new spin I'm seeing is that this was a long con by the DNC to make Trump look bad.


called it, ahead of the curve. etc
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Wanglicious
07/11/17 11:50:06 PM
#222:


trump jr. didn't do anything illegal with the meeting.
but plenty of people did with talking to congress, including his brother in law.

i agree that foreign powers trying to influence the race is nothing new. i've seen the email where china wanted to talk to hillary too as well as the ukraine failing to help her. that ain't new, it ain't unexpected, so okay. fine.

but if you go lie to congress about it or lie under oath, not fine.
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Skyridge87
07/12/17 12:04:15 AM
#223:


SgtSphynx posted...
It's too bad they can't air the other segment from LWT as well

What other segment?
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ExThaNemesis
07/12/17 12:06:45 AM
#224:


coming in here to go ahead and say that he's probably gonna get impeached over this

this is basically collusion

hard to deny at this point. whoops.
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SgtSphynx
07/12/17 12:07:49 AM
#225:


Skyridge87 posted...
SgtSphynx posted...
It's too bad they can't air the other segment from LWT as well

What other segment?

https://youtu.be/GvtNyOzGogc?t=17m37s
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ChaosTonyV4
07/12/17 12:08:56 AM
#226:


Wanglicious posted...
trump jr. didn't do anything illegal with the meeting.
but plenty of people did with talking to congress, including his brother in law.

i agree that foreign powers trying to influence the race is nothing new. i've seen the email where china wanted to talk to hillary too as well as the ukraine failing to help her. that ain't new, it ain't unexpected, so okay. fine.

but if you go lie to congress about it or lie under oath, not fine.


For the bolded part specifically, didn't the Hillary email mention things they wanted to do when she's President?

Isn't that a little different than "hey we have info to help you become President"?
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TheRock1525
07/12/17 12:14:42 AM
#227:


ExThaNemesis posted...
coming in here to go ahead and say that he's probably gonna get impeached over this

this is basically collusion

hard to deny at this point. whoops.


How is Trump gonna get impeached over Trump Jr.'s behavior?
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FFDragon
07/12/17 12:16:29 AM
#229:


He won't get impeached over this.

It will however make it impossible to kill the special investigation like it was rumored he was looking to do. And who knows how much more smoke will turn to actual fire.
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MoogleKupo141
07/12/17 12:16:46 AM
#230:


oh boy
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FFDragon
07/12/17 12:17:44 AM
#231:


(honestly the person who is likely to get hit hardest here is still The Kush)
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ExThaNemesis
07/12/17 12:22:28 AM
#232:


TheRock1525 posted...
How is Trump gonna get impeached over Trump Jr.'s behavior?


There will be something linking him to knowledge about it somewhere.
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Eddv
07/12/17 12:24:03 AM
#234:


TheRock1525 posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
coming in here to go ahead and say that he's probably gonna get impeached over this

this is basically collusion

hard to deny at this point. whoops.


How is Trump gonna get impeached over Trump Jr.'s behavior?


If Sr. was complicit its literally exactly the same as watergate.
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ChaosTonyV4
07/12/17 12:25:49 AM
#235:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
June 7 - 5:16 PM - Don Jr. confirms meeting w/ Russian lawyer

June 7 - 9:13 PM Trump promises press conf the next week with Clinton dirt.

June 9: Trump Jr. meeting

June 12: Assange announces HRC leaks coming

June 15: Guccifer 2.0 launches on Wordpress



All it takes is one person connecting ANY of these dots, and putting that question in the news, which will cause Trump to ramble an off-handed comment at a rally somewhere as he constantly does and perjure himself.
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TheRock1525
07/12/17 12:26:50 AM
#236:


ExThaNemesis posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
How is Trump gonna get impeached over Trump Jr.'s behavior?


There will be something linking him to knowledge about it somewhere.


Honestly, so far there really hasn't been anything linking directly to Don Sr.

It kinda fits the idea that he's literally so out of the loop on everything.
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LordoftheMorons
07/12/17 12:27:04 AM
#237:


FFDragon posted...
(honestly the person who is likely to get hit hardest here is still The Kush)

Hey man, he's just a really forgetful guy! Who among us hasn't forgotten the to list the meetings we've had with Russians on our security clearances when our father in laws were suspected of colluding with Russians and we've been advised that it's a felony to lie on the form, and then did that two more times after a story broke that revealed that we had, in fact, had an undisclosed meeting with more Russians?
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SupremeZero
07/12/17 12:28:38 AM
#238:


TheRock1525 posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
How is Trump gonna get impeached over Trump Jr.'s behavior?


There will be something linking him to knowledge about it somewhere.


Honestly, so far there really hasn't been anything linking directly to Don Sr.

It kinda fits the idea that he's literally so out of the loop on everything.


The idea that Trump Jr presented (That he didn't tell dad that he was getting information to weaken Hillary because it was so unimportant) is laughable to the point of ridiculousness.
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Jakyl25
07/12/17 12:29:04 AM
#239:


FFDragon posted...
He won't get impeached over this.

It will however make it impossible to kill the special investigation like it was rumored he was looking to do.


Hold his beer
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FFDragon
07/12/17 12:30:45 AM
#240:


doesn't he not drink?

more like hold his second scoop
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Jakyl25
07/12/17 12:32:32 AM
#241:


Hold his Trump Water
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Paratroopa1
07/12/17 12:36:31 AM
#242:


He doesn't drink? Interesting
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FFDragon
07/12/17 12:39:23 AM
#243:


His brother was an alcoholic and killed himself from drinking, so he never drank. Admirable, really.
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Jakyl25
07/12/17 12:39:33 AM
#244:


Yeah, and unlike his claim that he's never done cocaine, it's actually true
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TheRock1525
07/12/17 12:41:41 AM
#246:


Wait do we have proof of cocaine use?
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Jakyl25
07/12/17 12:42:53 AM
#247:


Remember that first debate with Hillary?

*SNIFF*
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HaRRicH
07/12/17 12:44:53 AM
#248:


FFDragon posted...
His brother was an alcoholic and killed himself from drinking, so he never drank. Admirable, really.


Wow, didn't know this...I'll respect that. I had suspicions about medications stopping Donald from doing so, but that wasn't based on much and this makes sense.
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Dark Young Link
07/12/17 12:47:15 AM
#249:


Yeah didn't know that either. That's... not something to joke about then.
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Wanglicious
07/12/17 12:47:22 AM
#250:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...

For the bolded part specifically, didn't the Hillary email mention things they wanted to do when she's President?


china one was requesting a private, off the record meeting to discuss the next year and affairs with china. no way to know the specifics and, realistically, anybody with half a brain wouldn't say what that email said for Trump Jr. which is probably his defense too - there's no way somebody would reveal this sort of incriminating stuff over email.

(yes this is said in the same breath as the DNC screwing Bernie over as seen in emails with a straight face, let's ignore that.)

Ukraine on the other hand was direct and during the election. here.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

it didn't work but they did try and had a couple wins.
i mean, this is what i expect for president.
this is what the position of president has, realistically, been dealing with for the past 50 years or so (and i'm very, very likely undercutting it by another 100 or so, it just didn't have the impact then as it has ever since post-WW2) . if we're a global market with a global economy and courts that can affect multiple countries, of course we're going to have global politics for the top countries. so i can't be upset by either side taking advantage of what they're given.

but i can be by a bunch of liars who perjure themselves. trump's generally been a lame duck president in all but name but this sort of scandal is something that's pushing Rs away to further make that. or as i said months ago: they're going to effectively Buchanan him. just didn't think it'd come from this. i don't think this is something they can get away with in "business as usual," i expect multiple resignations and multiple memes posted on twitter to try to push attention away. i expect a shotgun approach of "fuck it, empty the vault" until they find out there is nothing left and the key sticking points are the ones that they don't want. then they're fucked and we'll see how they handle it.


my guess is they're hoping Kennedy or Ginsberg dies and want to rush a seat or two because at this point, that and misdirection is all that office is good for.
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Jakyl25
07/12/17 1:01:07 AM
#251:


You seem fairly certain that this is somehow the straw that broke the elephant's back
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