Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 123: Heather Heyer

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ChaosTonyV4 08/14/17 3:17:24 AM #51:	Dark Young Link posted... So um.... Either 4chan is hacking dailystorm, or dailystorm is faking being hack at a desperate attempt to save face. https://twitter.com/TheAnonJournal/status/896979716019716098 I'm not sure which would be more funny. It's gotta be super fake. Anonymous is conveniently "shutting them down in 24 hours for good", when GoDaddy said the same thing? Come on. --- Phantom Dust. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:884740162] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote>So um.... Either 4chan is hacking dailystorm, or dailystorm is faking being hack at a desperate attempt to save face. https://twitter.com/TheAnonJournal/status/896979716019716098 I'm not sure which would be more funny.</quote> It's gotta be super fake. Anonymous is conveniently "shutting them down in 24 hours for good", when GoDaddy said the same thing? Come on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinglicious 08/14/17 3:22:06 AM #52:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... In the last topic literally all you did was make excuses. Show me one. As I damn sure didn't make excuses. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Kinglicious posted [p:884740269] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote> In the last topic literally all you did was make excuses.</quote> Show me one. As I damn sure didn't make excuses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 3:28:38 AM #53:	The whole "We have to let them speak".... while saying "We shouldn't protests what they're saying" doesn't ring any bells? Apparently it's fine to speak Nazi views, but telling them to fuck off is suppression? --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884740415] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>The whole "We have to let them speak".... while saying "We shouldn't protests what they're saying" doesn't ring any bells? Apparently it's fine to speak Nazi views, but telling them to fuck off is suppression?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 3:33:03 AM #54:	And the whole "We should hear them out, maybe they have a rough life. Maybe if we'd listen they'd tell us why they want to kill off entire groups of people who are different from them". --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884740543] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>And the whole "We should hear them out, maybe they have a rough life. Maybe if we'd listen they'd tell us why they want to kill off entire groups of people who are different from them".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinglicious 08/14/17 3:38:07 AM #55:	Dark Young Link posted... The whole "We have to let them speak".... while saying "We shouldn't protests what they're saying" doesn't ring any bells? Seeing how I literally said: Stand there and do nothing - no. Especially if somebody's become violent but no, I'm not saying you should become a doormat. Letting somebody speak without trying to shut them down isn't being "polite" or "doing nothing," it's just giving them rope. Counter if you want, protest if you want (though like I said earlier, this one was dumb to protest), that's fine. No, it doesn't. Because I said the opposite. Are you still confused with why I say it was dumb to protest this one? That it was always bait, playing their rules, etc? From your reaction to not understanding what I meant when I said there was a normies guide, I'm assuming you have no idea what this was or how it formed. Is that correct? Because that explains a lot as to why you don't get why I say that. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Kinglicious posted [p:884740670] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote>The whole "We have to let them speak".... while saying "We shouldn't protests what they're saying" doesn't ring any bells?</quote> Seeing how I literally said: <quote> Stand there and do nothing - no. Especially if somebody's become violent but no, I'm not saying you should become a doormat. Letting somebody speak without trying to shut them down isn't being "polite" or "doing nothing," it's just giving them rope. Counter if you want, protest if you want (though like I said earlier, this one was dumb to protest), that's fine.</quote> No, it doesn't. Because I said the opposite. Are you still confused with why I say it was dumb to protest this one? That it was always bait, playing their rules, etc? From your reaction to not understanding what I meant when I said there was a normies guide, I'm assuming you have no idea what this was or how it formed. Is that correct? Because that explains a lot as to why you don't get why I say that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinglicious 08/14/17 3:39:51 AM #56:	Dark Young Link posted... And the whole "We should hear them out, maybe they have a rough life. Maybe if we'd listen they'd tell us why they want to kill off entire groups of people who are different from them". Literally the only thing said here is "we should hear them out." And it's followed by saying that it's to give them rope to hang themselves with. Everything else you said is a flat out lie. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Kinglicious posted [p:884740704] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote>And the whole "We should hear them out, maybe they have a rough life. Maybe if we'd listen they'd tell us why they want to kill off entire groups of people who are different from them".</quote> Literally the only thing said here is "we should hear them out." And it's followed by saying that it's to give them rope to hang themselves with. Everything else you said is a flat out lie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 08/14/17 3:45:40 AM #57:	"we should here them out" referring to fucking white supremacists / nazis --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:884740833] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>"we should here them out" referring to fucking white supremacists / nazis</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 3:46:49 AM #58:	You're suggesting that they were trying to make martyrs out of themselves? Because honestly, I don't see a normal, well adjusted person going "You know, I thought those guys were assholes but after those other guys were mean to them maybe they have a point after all." There is no "rope" for them to hang themselves with. You either know where your position is on Nazis, or you're too young to read. Their existence is their rope, and no one's hung them yet. As for "hearing them out" we've already heard them. They came to the rally armed, looking to cause trouble. You can't say "They were baiting you" and say "You should hear them out" in the same breath. One implies that they're just being dicks, and the other implies they want an actual conversation. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884740858] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>You're suggesting that they were trying to make martyrs out of themselves? Because honestly, I don't see a normal, well adjusted person going "You know, I thought those guys were assholes but after those other guys were mean to them maybe they have a point after all." There is no "rope" for them to hang themselves with. You either know where your position is on Nazis, or you're too young to read. Their existence is their rope, and no one's hung them yet. As for "hearing them out" we've already heard them. They came to the rally armed, looking to cause trouble. You can't say "They were baiting you" and say "You should hear them out" in the same breath. One implies that they're just being dicks, and the other implies they want an actual conversation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 3:56:10 AM #59:	And I find it ah.. "interesting" that you think we should hear these ratbastards out, but when I say they aren't human you suddenly aren't willing to hear me out on why I think that? You called it "terrifying", yet you don't seem terrified about "Blood and Soil". I'd like to follow up on that conversation we had yesterday. What do you think a neo-nazi is, Wang? What are their core beliefs? --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884741061] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>And I find it ah.. "interesting" that you think we should hear these ratbastards out, but when I say they aren't human you suddenly aren't willing to hear me out on why I think that? You called it "terrifying", yet you don't seem terrified about "Blood and Soil". I'd like to follow up on that conversation we had yesterday. What do you think a neo-nazi is, Wang? What are their core beliefs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/14/17 4:04:40 AM #60:	I honestly think Wang is just a closet White Supremacist at this point because he fights so hard to get their voices heard no matter what. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:884741217] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>I honestly think Wang is just a closet White Supremacist at this point because he fights so hard to get their voices heard no matter what.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinglicious 08/14/17 4:41:58 AM #61:	GuessMyUserName posted... "we should here them out" referring to fucking white supremacists / nazis Yes. You should hear everyone out. You can then decide how much value what they have to say is and reinforce both what you support and what you oppose. It's how you make good arguments and learn. Dark Young Link posted... You're suggesting that they were trying to make martyrs out of themselves? Some probably but overall, nope. They legitimately went out to try to mingle and merge. They thought this would be a good thing. Dark Young Link posted... They came to the rally armed, looking to cause trouble. You can't say "They were baiting you" and say "You should hear them out" in the same breath. One implies that they're just being dicks, and the other implies they want an actual conversation. Them being armed ties back to them knowing police isn't helpful and things will get violent. If they weren't armed, antifa would be. In the past, other right wing rallies believed cops and disarmed, antifa just stayed out of range and came with weapons. This isn't a good point if you know what other rallies from people less extreme have been like. They were totally baiting antifa, yeah. They were being dicks. They were also wanting actual conversation with the people on the right who went. Remember that the event is called "Unite the Right." Dark Young Link posted... but when I say they aren't human you suddenly aren't willing to hear me out on why I think that? Where'd I say that? Because I said it's terrifying that you'd other and dehumanize people? By all means, I'm open to hearing why you'd become the monster you hate. As for chants like blood and soil, they don't scare me as much as surprise how blatant they're being. As for what I think neo Nazis are... that can be a while. I don't mind getting into what I've figured out (there's multiple types and some hate each other) but it'd probably be something for tomorrow. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Kinglicious posted [p:884741972] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>GuessMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote>"we should here them out" referring to fucking white supremacists / nazis</quote> Yes. You should hear everyone out. You can then decide how much value what they have to say is and reinforce both what you support and what you oppose. It's how you make good arguments and learn. <cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote>You're suggesting that they were trying to make martyrs out of themselves? </quote> Some probably but overall, nope. They legitimately went out to try to mingle and merge. They thought this would be a good thing. <cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote>They came to the rally armed, looking to cause trouble. You can't say "They were baiting you" and say "You should hear them out" in the same breath. One implies that they're just being dicks, and the other implies they want an actual conversation.</quote> Them being armed ties back to them knowing police isn't helpful and things will get violent. If they weren't armed, antifa would be. In the past, other right wing rallies believed cops and disarmed, antifa just stayed out of range and came with weapons. This isn't a good point if you know what other rallies from people less extreme have been like. They were totally baiting antifa, yeah. They were being dicks. They were also wanting actual conversation with the people on the right who went. Remember that the event is called "Unite the Right." <cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote>but when I say they aren't human you suddenly aren't willing to hear me out on why I think that? </quote> Where'd I say that? Because I said it's terrifying that you'd other and dehumanize people? By all means, I'm open to hearing why you'd become the monster you hate. As for chants like blood and soil, they don't scare me as much as surprise how blatant they're being. As for what I think neo Nazis are... that can be a while. I don't mind getting into what I've figured out (there's multiple types and some hate each other) but it'd probably be something for tomorrow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 08/14/17 4:55:45 AM #62:	Kinglicious posted... Yes. You should hear everyone out. You can then decide how much value what they have to say is and reinforce both what you support and what you oppose. It's how you make good arguments and learn. White Supremecists and Nazis aren't espousing new ideas, Wang. Kinglicious posted... Some probably but overall, nope. They legitimately went out to try to mingle and merge. They thought this would be a good thing. Ok and this is relevant why? Kinglicious posted... They were also wanting actual conversation with the people on the right who went. Remember that the event is called "Unite the Right." (skipped a bit because this is directly related to the last quote) So you literally admit you know White Supremacists are trying to recruit new members? This is a good thing why? Think about this for two seconds. Kinglicious posted... Them being armed ties back to them knowing police isn't helpful and things will get violent. If they weren't armed, antifa would be. In the past, other right wing rallies believed cops and disarmed, antifa just stayed out of range and came with weapons. This isn't a good point if you know what other rallies from people less extreme have been like. They were totally baiting antifa, yeah. They were being dicks. If you knew fuck all about White Supremacists you'd know they tend to be parts of "militias" and are always armed. Why are you giving them this other excuse? Kinglicious posted... Where'd I say that? Because I said it's terrifying that you'd other and dehumanize people? By all means, I'm open to hearing why you'd become the monster you hate. As for chants like blood and soil, they don't scare me as much as surprise how blatant they're being. Literally fucking Wang: Criticizing Nazi is as bad as Nazi's Kinglicious posted... As for what I think neo Nazis are... that can be a while. I don't mind getting into what I've figured out (there's multiple types and some hate each other) but it'd probably be something for tomorrow. This is a cop out but ok --- Phantom Dust. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:884742246] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote> Yes. You should hear everyone out. You can then decide how much value what they have to say is and reinforce both what you support and what you oppose. It's how you make good arguments and learn. </quote> White Supremecists and Nazis aren't espousing new ideas, Wang. <cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote>Some probably but overall, nope. They legitimately went out to try to mingle and merge. They thought this would be a good thing. </quote> Ok and this is relevant why? <cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote>They were also wanting actual conversation with the people on the right who went. Remember that the event is called "Unite the Right."</quote> (skipped a bit because this is directly related to the last quote) So you literally admit you know White Supremacists are trying to recruit new members? This is a good thing why? Think about this for two seconds. <cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote> Them being armed ties back to them knowing police isn't helpful and things will get violent. If they weren't armed, antifa would be. In the past, other right wing rallies believed cops and disarmed, antifa just stayed out of range and came with weapons. This isn't a good point if you know what other rallies from people less extreme have been like. They were totally baiting antifa, yeah. They were being dicks.</quote> If you knew fuck all about White Supremacists you'd know they tend to be parts of "militias" and are always armed. Why are you giving them this other excuse? <cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote> Where'd I say that? Because I said it's terrifying that you'd other and dehumanize people? By all means, I'm open to hearing why you'd become the monster you hate. As for chants like blood and soil, they don't scare me as much as surprise how blatant they're being. </quote> Literally fucking Wang: Criticizing Nazi is as bad as Nazi's <cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote> As for what I think neo Nazis are... that can be a while. I don't mind getting into what I've figured out (there's multiple types and some hate each other) but it'd probably be something for tomorrow.</quote> This is a cop out but ok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 5:04:41 AM #63:	Kinglicious posted... They legitimately went out to try to mingle and merge. With weapons. While egging on innocent bystanders. "Mingle". But you claim they were also "baiting" so... Kinglicious posted... Them being armed ties back to them knowing police isn't helpful and things will get violent. If they're just talking, why would things get violent? Almost like they were itching for a fight. If they wren't armed and anifta was... well wouldn't that make them look so much better? It's strange though, I don't recall a majority of BLM being armed. Kinglicious posted... Where'd I say that? Because I said it's terrifying that you'd other and dehumanize people? By all means, I'm open to hearing why you'd become the monster you hate. As for chants like blood and soil, they don't scare me as much as surprise how blatant they're being. If I'm a monster for being opposed to genocide, then shrug I guess I'm a monster? I mean I haven't tried to kill anyone, or suggested a group of people needs to die because they were born different, but I suppose completely rejecting those ideas and the people who share them puts me on their level. Their chants don't scare you? Yeah, I suppose you're not the target demographic. Like I said, it's not your problem so naturally you're fine with it. Kinglicious posted... As for what I think neo Nazis are... that can be a while. I don't mind getting into what I've figured out (there's multiple types and some hate each other) but it'd probably be something for tomorrow. Alright. I'm going to hold you to that. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884742401] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote> They legitimately went out to try to mingle and merge. </quote> With weapons. While egging on innocent bystanders. "Mingle". But you claim they were also "baiting" so... <cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote>Them being armed ties back to them knowing police isn't helpful and things will get violent. </quote> If they're just talking, why would things get violent? Almost like they were itching for a fight. If they wren't armed and anifta was... well wouldn't that make them look so much better? It's strange though, I don't recall a majority of BLM being armed. <cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote> Where'd I say that? Because I said it's terrifying that you'd other and dehumanize people? By all means, I'm open to hearing why you'd become the monster you hate. As for chants like blood and soil, they don't scare me as much as surprise how blatant they're being. </quote> If I'm a monster for being opposed to genocide, then shrug I guess I'm a monster? I mean I haven't tried to kill anyone, or suggested a group of people needs to die because they were born different, but I suppose completely rejecting those ideas and the people who share them puts me on their level. Their chants don't scare you? Yeah, I suppose you're not the target demographic. Like I said, it's not your problem so naturally you're fine with it. <cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote> As for what I think neo Nazis are... that can be a while. I don't mind getting into what I've figured out (there's multiple types and some hate each other) but it'd probably be something for tomorrow.</quote> Alright. I'm going to hold you to that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 5:06:09 AM #64:	Also on the off chance Wang is just trolling me all this time, I'm perfectly fine with it. It would merely demonstrate the type of person he is if that was the case. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884742434] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Also on the off chance Wang is just trolling me all this time, I'm perfectly fine with it. It would merely demonstrate the type of person he is if that was the case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/14/17 5:10:32 AM #65:	He could just simpy believe everyone has the right to speak their opinions, no matter what they are. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884742523] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>He could just simpy believe everyone has the right to speak their opinions, no matter what they are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/14/17 5:14:37 AM #66:	I asked this dude at work what he thought of those rallies in Virginia and he asked me if I knew what really happened and showed me a video of some girl who said that Antifa was all the aggressors and were attacking the Right to Unite and that Soros paid them to be there. Etc. And, I was like, well even if so I mean there was Nazis marching in formation and KKK stuff there and such... and he was like well they have a right to be there if they wish as long as they do it peacefully though I don't agree with their groups. That it wasn't a white supremacy march but a Robert E Lee statue removal protest march. shrug He is a republocrat. It is important to note that many where I work are democrats solely because unions generally support democrats but they all tend to vote Republican due to Republican economic policies. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884742604] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>I asked this dude at work what he thought of those rallies in Virginia and he asked me if I knew what really happened and showed me a video of some girl who said that Antifa was all the aggressors and were attacking the Right to Unite and that Soros paid them to be there. Etc. And, I was like, well even if so I mean there was Nazis marching in formation and KKK stuff there and such... and he was like well they have a right to be there if they wish as long as they do it peacefully though I don't agree with their groups. That it wasn't a white supremacy march but a Robert E Lee statue removal protest march. shrug He is a republocrat. It is important to note that many where I work are democrats solely because unions generally support democrats but they all tend to vote Republican due to Republican economic policies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 5:19:16 AM #67:	As do I. I simply believe in there being consequences for one's actions, words included. It's fascinating how many people are unable to speak their minds when they aren't being protected. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884742678] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>As do I. I simply believe in there being consequences for one's actions, words included. It's fascinating how many people are unable to speak their minds when they aren't being protected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 5:27:00 AM #68:	I wish you asked him how he "knew" Soros was paying everyone off, but I imagine you don't want to rock the boat at your job. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884742803] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>I wish you asked him how he "knew" Soros was paying everyone off, but I imagine you don't want to rock the boat at your job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/14/17 5:36:00 AM #69:	Dark Young Link posted... I wish you asked him how he "knew" Soros was paying everyone off, but I imagine you don't want to rock the boat at your job. He didnt say he knew soros was. He showed me a video of what a woman said. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884742968] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote>I wish you asked him how he "knew" Soros was paying everyone off, but I imagine you don't want to rock the boat at your job.</quote> He didnt say he knew soros was. He showed me a video of what a woman said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/14/17 8:19:15 AM #70:	TheRock1525 posted... I honestly think Wang is just a closet White Supremacist at this point because he fights so hard to get their voices heard no matter what. Yup --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884746134] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>I honestly think Wang is just a closet White Supremacist at this point because he fights so hard to get their voices heard no matter what.</quote> Yup</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/14/17 8:22:02 AM #71:	Peace___Frog posted... TheRock1525 posted... I honestly think Wang is just a closet White Supremacist at this point because he fights so hard to get their voices heard no matter what. Yup Isn't Wang Asian...? --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:884746210] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>I honestly think Wang is just a closet White Supremacist at this point because he fights so hard to get their voices heard no matter what.</quote> Yup</quote> Isn't Wang Asian...?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 08/14/17 8:29:49 AM #72:	Wang, your first instinct when seeing a video of a car hitting people is to complain about the guy who just witnessed it assuming his identity. Even if he somehow ended up being wrong, your search for the devil in the details completely ignores any allowance for basic empathy. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:884746456] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Wang, your first instinct when seeing a video of a car hitting people is to complain about the guy who just witnessed it assuming his identity. Even if he somehow ended up being wrong, your search for the devil in the details completely ignores any allowance for basic empathy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 08/14/17 8:59:51 AM #73:	Kinglicious posted... As for what I think neo Nazis are... that can be a while. I don't mind getting into what I've figured out (there's multiple types and some hate each other) but it'd probably be something for tomorrow. LapisLazuli posted... "...Explain that? Sorry, I gotta go, but we'll talk about it later." --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:884747337] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote>As for what I think neo Nazis are... that can be a while. I don't mind getting into what I've figured out (there's multiple types and some hate each other) but it'd probably be something for tomorrow.</quote> <cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>"...Explain that? Sorry, I gotta go, but we'll talk about it later."</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 08/14/17 9:01:41 AM #74:	Peace___Frog posted... TheRock1525 posted... I honestly think Wang is just a closet White Supremacist at this point because he fights so hard to get their voices heard no matter what. Yup It's just getting harder and harder to think otherwise. --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:884747379] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>I honestly think Wang is just a closet White Supremacist at this point because he fights so hard to get their voices heard no matter what.</quote> Yup</quote> It's just getting harder and harder to think otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/14/17 9:47:23 AM #75:	Corrik posted... That it wasn't a white supremacy march but a Robert E Lee statue removal protest march. He's confusing the Tiki Torch march the night before with the bigger event the next day --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884748904] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>That it wasn't a white supremacy march but a Robert E Lee statue removal protest march.</quote> He's confusing the Tiki Torch march the night before with the bigger event the next day</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
My Immortal 08/14/17 9:49:03 AM #76:	Tag --- #VnaaVimmDrnuddma <cite>My Immortal posted [p:884748957] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 08/14/17 10:10:23 AM #77:	so I saw an article floating around that the dude in the van was a false flag attack funded by soros even ulti managed to stand up against this one so I guess that's a point for him against some of my feed --- Tombolo Friends of the friendless, seize the day! The problem is the racism against cute Pokemon.- Luster Soldier <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:884749767] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>so I saw an article floating around that the dude in the van was a false flag attack funded by soros even ulti managed to stand up against this one so I guess that's a point for him against some of my feed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/14/17 10:17:27 AM #78:	Peace___Frog posted... TheRock1525 posted... I honestly think Wang is just a closet White Supremacist at this point because he fights so hard to get their voices heard no matter what. Yup I mean, I don't wanna say this, but between Wang ALWAYS defending these people and refusing to ever condemn them or even really say they did wrong, it just looks bad. Like, his outrage over "Stop assuming the driver's political views!" while showing pretty much zero reaction to the actual event of running people down with a car in itself is just a bad, bad look. While I don't necessarily think he's straight up a white supremacist or anything, between his GGism and his staunch defense of hate speech, it really feels like there's atleast SOME hate, there, for something. I mean, one of his first reactions to the car thing was "These people were blocking the street." And a repeated sentiment has been "It's wrong to counter-protest these white supremacists." It's just... Weird. He's cool outside of Politics topics though, so I dunno --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:884750012] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>I honestly think Wang is just a closet White Supremacist at this point because he fights so hard to get their voices heard no matter what.</quote> Yup</quote> I mean, I don't wanna say this, but between Wang ALWAYS defending these people and refusing to ever condemn them or even really say they did wrong, it just looks bad. Like, his outrage over "Stop assuming the driver's political views!" while showing pretty much zero reaction to the actual event of running people down with a car in itself is just a bad, bad look. While I don't necessarily think he's straight up a white supremacist or anything, between his GGism and his staunch defense of hate speech, it really feels like there's atleast SOME hate, there, for something. I mean, one of his first reactions to the car thing was "These people were blocking the street." And a repeated sentiment has been "It's wrong to counter-protest these white supremacists." It's just... Weird. He's cool outside of Politics topics though, so I dunno</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Regaro 08/14/17 10:20:00 AM #79:	Wang being generally ok outside of politics is why I want to believe he's just hopelessly naive about what he's actually enabling and sympathizing with. But at the same time it's hard for me to believe that's actually the case. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest <cite>Regaro posted [p:884750121] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Wang being generally ok outside of politics is why I want to believe he's just hopelessly naive about what he's actually enabling and sympathizing with. But at the same time it's hard for me to believe that's actually the case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 08/14/17 10:24:25 AM #80:	Tom Bombadil posted... so I saw an article floating around that the dude in the van was a false flag attack funded by soros even ulti managed to stand up against this one so I guess that's a point for him against some of my feed SmartMuffin bought into this in the Freedom topic and never retracted, -10 points. --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:884750291] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>so I saw an article floating around that the dude in the van was a false flag attack funded by soros even ulti managed to stand up against this one so I guess that's a point for him against some of my feed</quote> SmartMuffin bought into this in the Freedom topic and never retracted, -10 points.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 08/14/17 10:27:45 AM #81:	Even if Wang isn't a White Nationalist, it's safe to assume that if 5 people here so far are saying they can't ignore the possibility that maybe he needs to rethink some things. --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:884750424] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Even if Wang isn't a White Nationalist, it's safe to assume that if 5 people here so far are saying they can't ignore the possibility that maybe he needs to rethink some things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/14/17 10:29:13 AM #82:	LapisLazuli posted... Even if Wang isn't a White Nationalist, it's safe to assume that if 5 people here so far are saying they can't ignore the possibility that maybe he needs to rethink some things. Sadly, he won't think his approach is the problem. He'll just say we're the problem and that we're wrong. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:884750476] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>Even if Wang isn't a White Nationalist, it's safe to assume that if 5 people here so far are saying they can't ignore the possibility that maybe he needs to rethink some things.</quote> Sadly, he won't think his approach is the problem. He'll just say we're the problem and that we're wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 08/14/17 10:32:34 AM #83:	The crazier thing about Wang's adamant defense of white nationalists is that on the other hand he is incredibly quick to point the finger to stuff like Antifa and he's always been more than okay condemning them. --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:884750599] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>The crazier thing about Wang's adamant defense of white nationalists is that on the other hand he is incredibly quick to point the finger to stuff like Antifa and he's always been more than okay condemning them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 08/14/17 10:36:02 AM #84:	yeah, i don't like how wang ONLY seems to care super much about "corrections" and distinguishing between the finer details when it comes to gamergate/the alt-right/white nationalists/etc. when there's tons of people making factual errors on a gazillion different topics in this topic series (myself included, of course). to name just one example, at one point there were a lot of people accusing jill stein of being anti-vaxx, when she's not one and never, ever claimed to be one. where was his outrage over that? correcting people on the difference between nazism and white nationalism is fine in itself - getting the facts straight is good. but it does get annoying when wang's corrections are so limited to one subject matter, and that he's so obsessive about correcting people about this one subject matter. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:884750762] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>yeah, i don't like how wang ONLY seems to care super much about "corrections" and distinguishing between the finer details when it comes to gamergate/the alt-right/white nationalists/etc. when there's tons of people making factual errors on a gazillion different topics in this topic series (myself included, of course). to name just one example, at one point there were a lot of people accusing jill stein of being anti-vaxx, when she's not one and never, ever claimed to be one. where was his outrage over that? correcting people on the difference between nazism and white nationalism is fine in itself - getting the facts straight is good. but it does get annoying when wang's corrections are so limited to one subject matter, and that he's so obsessive about correcting people about this one subject matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Regaro 08/14/17 10:37:21 AM #85:	At this point, I'm convinced antifa is really just a boogeyman for the alt-right to claim both sides are the same. Like sure, something by that name might exist, but it's as irrelevant as violent protesters on the left are stupid. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest <cite>Regaro posted [p:884750831] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>At this point, I'm convinced antifa is really just a boogeyman for the alt-right to claim both sides are the same. Like sure, something by that name might exist, but it's as irrelevant as violent protesters on the left are stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/14/17 10:39:48 AM #86:	https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/897079051277537280 This dude quit because Trump won't condemn white nationalism So then Trump wastes no time in ATTACKING HIM Fucking hell --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884750918] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/897079051277537280 This dude quit because Trump won't condemn white nationalism So then Trump wastes no time in ATTACKING HIM Fucking hell</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/14/17 10:46:31 AM #87:	https://twitter.com/therickydavila/status/896894071956017152 Someone has put together this video to highlight Trump's past comments on how to handle peaceful protestors Fuck Trump --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884751205] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/therickydavila/status/896894071956017152 Someone has put together this video to highlight Trump's past comments on how to handle peaceful protestors Fuck Trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 08/14/17 10:47:27 AM #88:	trump: "mexicans are criminals and rapists." white supremacist kills woman trump: "...well, obviously ALL extremist groups are bad. let's be a little nuanced here." --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:884751243] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>trump: "mexicans are criminals and rapists." white supremacist kills woman trump: "...well, obviously ALL extremist groups are bad. let's be a little nuanced here."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 08/14/17 10:50:04 AM #89:	Jakyl25 posted... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/897079051277537280 This dude quit because Trump won't condemn white nationalism So then Trump wastes no time in ATTACKING HIM Fucking hell That's a wonderful set of praise for a man you hired to a business related position, thank you Donny. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:884751329] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/897079051277537280 This dude quit because Trump won't condemn white nationalism So then Trump wastes no time in ATTACKING HIM Fucking hell</quote> That's a wonderful set of praise for a man you hired to a business related position, thank you Donny.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transcience 08/14/17 10:58:58 AM #90:	Trump had half a leg to stand out before criticizing the Merck CEO I hope this gets covered because he's complicit now --- add the c and back away iphonesience <cite>transcience posted [p:884751723] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Trump had half a leg to stand out before criticizing the Merck CEO I hope this gets covered because he's complicit now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 08/14/17 11:04:11 AM #91:	China announced sanctions on North Korea and is saying they're going to stop importing a bunch of stuff from NK, including coal, iron and sea food. I think they've said stuff like this in the past and didn't follow through? We'll see. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:884751915] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>China announced sanctions on North Korea and is saying they're going to stop importing a bunch of stuff from NK, including coal, iron and sea food. I think they've said stuff like this in the past and didn't follow through? We'll see.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/14/17 11:08:45 AM #92:	transcience posted... Trump had half a leg to stand out before criticizing the Merck CEO I hope this gets covered because he's complicit now He's been complicit, he's just making it more apparent. Every day that congressional republicans don't begin the impeachment process adds to their complicity. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884752122] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>transcience posted...</cite> <quote>Trump had half a leg to stand out before criticizing the Merck CEO I hope this gets covered because he's complicit now</quote> He's been complicit, he's just making it more apparent. Every day that congressional republicans don't begin the impeachment process adds to their complicity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/14/17 11:10:50 AM #93:	Trump's imbecilic populism shining through again. It is a complete myth that pharmaceutical companies are hellbent on "ripping off" people with artificially high drug prices. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:884752218] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Trump's imbecilic populism shining through again. It is a complete myth that pharmaceutical companies are hellbent on "ripping off" people with artificially high drug prices.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/14/17 11:14:50 AM #94:	Peace___Frog posted... transcience posted... Trump had half a leg to stand out before criticizing the Merck CEO I hope this gets covered because he's complicit now He's been complicit, he's just making it more apparent. Every day that congressional republicans don't begin the impeachment process adds to their complicity. I'm not sure that it's a good look to impeach him because he's an asshole. Literally as soon as any of the investigations finishes, there will probably be cause --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884752398] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>transcience posted...</cite> <quote>Trump had half a leg to stand out before criticizing the Merck CEO I hope this gets covered because he's complicit now</quote> He's been complicit, he's just making it more apparent. Every day that congressional republicans don't begin the impeachment process adds to their complicity.</quote> I'm not sure that it's a good look to impeach him because he's an asshole. Literally as soon as any of the investigations finishes, there will probably be cause</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/14/17 11:16:02 AM #95:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Trump's imbecilic populism shining through again. It is a complete myth that pharmaceutical companies are hellbent on "ripping off" people with artificially high drug prices. But he knows all about health care and how simple it will be to make it cheap for everyone! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884752450] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Trump's imbecilic populism shining through again. It is a complete myth that pharmaceutical companies are hellbent on "ripping off" people with artificially high drug prices.</quote> But he knows all about health care and how simple it will be to make it cheap for everyone!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/14/17 11:17:35 AM #96:	Jakyl25 posted... Peace___Frog posted... transcience posted... Trump had half a leg to stand out before criticizing the Merck CEO I hope this gets covered because he's complicit now He's been complicit, he's just making it more apparent. Every day that congressional republicans don't begin the impeachment process adds to their complicity. I'm not sure that it's a good look to impeach him because he's an asshole. Literally as soon as any of the investigations finishes, there will probably be cause Yeah, this. It's pretty much terrible for democracy to impeach someone for something other than a legitimate crime. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:884752529] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>transcience posted...</cite> <quote>Trump had half a leg to stand out before criticizing the Merck CEO I hope this gets covered because he's complicit now</quote> He's been complicit, he's just making it more apparent. Every day that congressional republicans don't begin the impeachment process adds to their complicity.</quote> I'm not sure that it's a good look to impeach him because he's an asshole. Literally as soon as any of the investigations finishes, there will probably be cause</quote> Yeah, this. It's pretty much terrible for democracy to impeach someone for something other than a legitimate crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 08/14/17 11:19:37 AM #97:	Agreed, being an asshole is literally what got him elected. It's a desirable trait for some people. If and when a crime is established, that's when you can do something. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:884752630] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Agreed, being an asshole is literally what got him elected. It's a desirable trait for some people. If and when a crime is established, that's when you can do something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transcience 08/14/17 11:23:32 AM #98:	I agree too. I'm not saying that any of what happened this weekend is grounds for impeachment. it's just crazy that he would attack a guy who left because he failed to denounce nazis instead of, you know, denouncing nazis. --- add the c and back away iphonesience <cite>transcience posted [p:884752794] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>I agree too. I'm not saying that any of what happened this weekend is grounds for impeachment. it's just crazy that he would attack a guy who left because he failed to denounce nazis instead of, you know, denouncing nazis.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 08/14/17 11:25:11 AM #99:	http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/13/lindsey-graham-s-carolina-senator-white-supremacis/ Even Lindsey Graham is like, "dude they think you're their friend, you've got to squash that" and Trump is all "..." --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:884752875] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/13/lindsey-graham-s-carolina-senator-white-supremacis/ Even Lindsey Graham is like, "dude they think you're their friend, you've got to squash that" and Trump is all "..."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transcience 08/14/17 11:26:27 AM #100:	that said, impeachment is a purely political process, not a legal one, so anything that tanks his approval any more than it already is increases the probability that people will turn on him. if people feel like they can't walk down his path anymore due to nazis/Russia/whatever and there's an impeachment avenue open, it's fair game. won't happen til 2018 unless Mueller finishes early though. --- add the c and back away iphonesience <cite>transcience posted [p:884752934] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>that said, impeachment is a purely political process, not a legal one, so anything that tanks his approval any more than it already is increases the probability that people will turn on him. if people feel like they can't walk down his path anymore due to nazis/Russia/whatever and there's an impeachment avenue open, it's fair game. won't happen til 2018 unless Mueller finishes early though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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