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Sephiroth1288
08/19/17 11:37:23 PM
#51:


YourAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Hahaha, it's Mal? No wonder he's f***ing wrong and defending the KKK.

Where'd I do that? I was making fun of you for defending shits who use KKK-like tactics.


Shut the fuck up.

Antifa functions exactly like the KKK does with their rallies. Go ahead and deny it all you like.

averagejoel posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I'm generally considered left. I don't preach violence. I know many others who share the same view. There is absolutely nothing inherently violent about left wing ideology. However, both the KKK and Nazism is inherently violent and preaches the stripping of certain people's fundamental rights. You saying all leftists are violence is absolute malarkey and completely made up to further your agenda.

Antifa and other leftist groups like it are largely Marxist, another ideology that ensures violence. Why don't you decry them?


violence against marginalized groups is bad

violence against fascists is good

Antifa defines anyone to the right of Stalin as a fascist. Educate yourself.
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averagejoel
08/19/17 11:37:47 PM
#52:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Antifa defines anyone to the right of Stalin as a fascist. Educate yourself.

no they don't. educate yourself
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Dash_Harber
08/19/17 11:38:02 PM
#53:


averagejoel posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I'm generally considered left. I don't preach violence. I know many others who share the same view. There is absolutely nothing inherently violent about left wing ideology. However, both the KKK and Nazism is inherently violent and preaches the stripping of certain people's fundamental rights. You saying all leftists are violence is absolute malarkey and completely made up to further your agenda.

Antifa and other leftist groups like it are largely Marxist, another ideology that ensures violence. Why don't you decry them?


violence against marginalized groups is bad

violence against fascists is good


1) I don't know enough about Antifa to make a statement.
2) There is nothing inherently violent about left or right wing politics. They are literally just how we fucking organize our government.
3) Nazis and the KKK are inherently violent. They advocate violence towards marginalized groups. They advocate the stripping of basic human rights (that they ironically use to justify their preaching). There is nothing even comparable in basic left (or right) political ideology.
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averagejoel
08/19/17 11:39:38 PM
#54:


Dash_Harber posted...
1) I don't know enough about Antifa to make a statement.
2) There is nothing inherently violent about left or right wing politics. They are literally just how we fucking organize our government.
3) Nazis and the KKK are inherently violent. They advocate violence towards marginalized groups. They advocate the stripping of basic human rights (that they ironically use to justify their preaching). There is nothing even comparable in basic left (or right) political ideology.

well, right wing policies tend to help people who don't need it at the expense of people who do. I'd call that a form of state violence
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YourAlt
08/19/17 11:39:58 PM
#55:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Hahaha, it's Mal? No wonder he's f***ing wrong and defending the KKK.

Where'd I do that? I was making fun of you for defending shits who use KKK-like tactics.


Shut the fuck up.

Antifa functions exactly like the KKK does with their rallies. Go ahead and deny it all you like.

averagejoel posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I'm generally considered left. I don't preach violence. I know many others who share the same view. There is absolutely nothing inherently violent about left wing ideology. However, both the KKK and Nazism is inherently violent and preaches the stripping of certain people's fundamental rights. You saying all leftists are violence is absolute malarkey and completely made up to further your agenda.

Antifa and other leftist groups like it are largely Marxist, another ideology that ensures violence. Why don't you decry them?


violence against marginalized groups is bad

violence against fascists is good

Antifa defines anyone to the right of Stalin as a fascist. Educate yourself.


Lol, this cur thinks he knows what he is talking about.

Everything you know about antifa protests are from edited YouTube videos.

Now shut the fuck up.
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Sephiroth1288
08/19/17 11:43:48 PM
#56:


YourAlt posted...
Everything you know about antifa protests are from edited YouTube videos.

Riiight Mr. Expert on Leftist Protests. Tell that to the leftist thugs who've shot at Republican congressmen playing a baseball game and stabbed innocent people on a train. Or to the guys who put bike locks in tube socks and hit innocent people with them hard enough to cause brain damage. "Violence against fascists is good", right?

You're so full of shit. Have you actually been to a protest in your life?
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averagejoel
08/19/17 11:45:27 PM
#57:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Everything you know about antifa protests are from edited YouTube videos.

Riiight Mr. Expert on Leftist Protests. Tell that to the leftist thugs who've shot at Republican congressmen playing a baseball game and stabbed innocent people on a train. Or to the guys who put bike locks in tube socks and hit innocent people with them hard enough to cause brain damage.

You're so full of shit. Have you actually been to a protest in your life?

you think antifa defines anyone to the right of stalin as a fascist. have you ever read... anything?
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YourAlt
08/19/17 11:45:44 PM
#58:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Everything you know about antifa protests are from edited YouTube videos.

Riiight Mr. Expert on Leftist Protests. Tell that to the leftist thugs who've shot at Republican congressmen playing a baseball game and stabbed innocent people on a train. Or to the guys who put bike locks in tube socks and hit innocent people with them hard enough to cause brain damage.

You're so full of shit. Have you actually been to a protest in your life?


Leftist thugs did that shooting? It was one insane man.

I am on a political action council in Detroit that organizes nearly all rallies in the metro area.

You are a cur. Worthless of my time. Go fuck off already.
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Dash_Harber
08/19/17 11:46:01 PM
#59:


averagejoel posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Everything you know about antifa protests are from edited YouTube videos.

Riiight Mr. Expert on Leftist Protests. Tell that to the leftist thugs who've shot at Republican congressmen playing a baseball game and stabbed innocent people on a train. Or to the guys who put bike locks in tube socks and hit innocent people with them hard enough to cause brain damage.

You're so full of shit. Have you actually been to a protest in your life?

you think antifa defines anyone to the right of stalin as a fascist. have you ever read... anything?

He also thinks the Nazis were leftists, so probably not.
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Sephiroth1288
08/19/17 11:46:38 PM
#60:


averagejoel posted...
you think antifa defines anyone to the right of stalin as a fascist.

When you call someone like Ben Shapiro a Nazi white supremacist at a protest against him speaking, yes, they will define literally anyone on the right a fascist.
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YourAlt
08/19/17 11:47:05 PM
#61:


Dash_Harber posted...
averagejoel posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Everything you know about antifa protests are from edited YouTube videos.

Riiight Mr. Expert on Leftist Protests. Tell that to the leftist thugs who've shot at Republican congressmen playing a baseball game and stabbed innocent people on a train. Or to the guys who put bike locks in tube socks and hit innocent people with them hard enough to cause brain damage.

You're so full of shit. Have you actually been to a protest in your life?

you think antifa defines anyone to the right of stalin as a fascist. have you ever read... anything?

He also thinks the Nazis were leftists, so probably not.


He's a toxic combination of uneducated / uninformed.
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Dash_Harber
08/19/17 11:47:47 PM
#62:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
averagejoel posted...
you think antifa defines anyone to the right of stalin as a fascist.

When you call someone like Ben Shapiro a Nazi white supremacist at a protest against him speaking, yes, they will define literally anyone on the right a fascist.


So according to you, the 4,000 people in Vancouver were Antifa?
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YourAlt
08/19/17 11:48:16 PM
#63:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
averagejoel posted...
you think antifa defines anyone to the right of stalin as a fascist.

When you call someone like Ben Shapiro a Nazi white supremacist at a protest against him speaking, yes, they will define literally anyone on the right a fascist.


Ben Shapiro is a fucking asshole too.
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Sephiroth1288
08/19/17 11:49:56 PM
#64:


YourAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
averagejoel posted...
you think antifa defines anyone to the right of stalin as a fascist.

When you call someone like Ben Shapiro a Nazi white supremacist at a protest against him speaking, yes, they will define literally anyone on the right a fascist.


Ben Shapiro is a fucking asshole too.

Do you think he's a fascist?
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YourAlt
08/19/17 11:50:43 PM
#65:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
averagejoel posted...
you think antifa defines anyone to the right of stalin as a fascist.

When you call someone like Ben Shapiro a Nazi white supremacist at a protest against him speaking, yes, they will define literally anyone on the right a fascist.


Ben Shapiro is a fucking asshole too.

Do you think he's a fascist?


No, I think he's a fucking asshole.
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gunplagirl
08/19/17 11:51:04 PM
#66:


Remember that Hitler quote how by leaving them be because free speech would have stopped them?


You shouldn't, because the quote really was

Only one thing could have stopped our movement – if our adversaries had understood its principle and from the first day smashed with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement.
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averagejoel
08/19/17 11:51:54 PM
#67:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
averagejoel posted...
you think antifa defines anyone to the right of stalin as a fascist.

When you call someone like Ben Shapiro a Nazi white supremacist at a protest against him speaking, yes, they will define literally anyone on the right a fascist.


Ben Shapiro is a fucking asshole too.

Do you think he's a fascist?

I would not be surprised if he turned out to be a fascist
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Sephiroth1288
08/19/17 11:51:57 PM
#68:


YourAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
averagejoel posted...
you think antifa defines anyone to the right of stalin as a fascist.

When you call someone like Ben Shapiro a Nazi white supremacist at a protest against him speaking, yes, they will define literally anyone on the right a fascist.


Ben Shapiro is a fucking asshole too.

Do you think he's a fascist?


No, I think he's a fucking asshole.

Well, Antifa and other leftist thugs call him a fascist and a white-supremacist. And if they can call the descendant of Holocaust victims that, then literally anyone can be a Nazi/racist/fascist to them.
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YourAlt
08/19/17 11:52:30 PM
#69:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
averagejoel posted...
you think antifa defines anyone to the right of stalin as a fascist.

When you call someone like Ben Shapiro a Nazi white supremacist at a protest against him speaking, yes, they will define literally anyone on the right a fascist.


Ben Shapiro is a fucking asshole too.

Do you think he's a fascist?


No, I think he's a fucking asshole.

Well, Antifa and other leftist thugs call him a fascist and a white-supremacist. And if they can call the descendant of Holocaust victims that, then literally anyone can be a Nazi/racist/fascist to them.


I don't give one fucking shit.
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averagejoel
08/19/17 11:55:49 PM
#70:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Well, Antifa and other leftist thugs call him a fascist and a white-supremacist. And if they can call the descendant of Holocaust victims that, then literally anyone can be a Nazi/racist/fascist to them.

can you give a source on that? I did a google search and I'm not seeing anything
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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 12:05:52 AM
#71:


YourAlt posted...
I don't give one f***ing s***.

Someone's getting triggered. Did something I say hit a little too close to home? What was it?

averagejoel posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Well, Antifa and other leftist thugs call him a fascist and a white-supremacist. And if they can call the descendant of Holocaust victims that, then literally anyone can be a Nazi/racist/fascist to them.

can you give a source on that? I did a google search and I'm not seeing anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSaA3Gk3AnE


Your Google-fu sucks.
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YourAlt
08/20/17 12:11:10 AM
#72:


I told you I don't give a fuck about Ben Shapiro. He is inconsequential. Your response is "triggered"? Lol, who the fuck cares.
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averagejoel
08/20/17 12:18:35 AM
#73:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
I don't give one f***ing s***.

Someone's getting triggered. Did something I say hit a little too close to home? What was it?

averagejoel posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Well, Antifa and other leftist thugs call him a fascist and a white-supremacist. And if they can call the descendant of Holocaust victims that, then literally anyone can be a Nazi/racist/fascist to them.

can you give a source on that? I did a google search and I'm not seeing anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSaA3Gk3AnE


Your Google-fu sucks.

well, I suppose it's on me for not specifying that I was looking for a legitimate source. or maybe for assuming you had one.

regardless, I will restate: do you have anything more legitimate than a youtube video with "SJWs" in the title put out by an account called "MRA/NRA Wonderwoman" with 10 subscribers?
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08/20/17 12:23:38 AM
#74:


We should take Antifa, the Alt-Right, and their apologists, and push them somewhere else.
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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 12:25:50 AM
#75:


averagejoel posted...
well, I suppose it's on me for not specifying that I was looking for a legitimate source. or maybe for assuming you had one.

Wut

If video footage of leftist thugs calling Ben Shapiro a white supremacist isn't a "legitimate source" that leftists call people like Ben Shapiro a white supremacist, what the hell is? CNN?

That was a joke. Of course CNN isn't a legitimate source.
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WaffIeElite
08/20/17 12:39:27 AM
#76:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
WaffIeElite posted...
Sounds like Canada actually knows how to get s*** done

Yeah, like scaring away a couple of nutjobs.

Too bad they can't handle things that matter, like their own little refugee crisis...


What crisis? We don't hate people for their skin color here, you slob.
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averagejoel
08/20/17 12:48:44 AM
#77:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
averagejoel posted...
well, I suppose it's on me for not specifying that I was looking for a legitimate source. or maybe for assuming you had one.

Wut

If video footage of leftist thugs calling Ben Shapiro a white supremacist isn't a "legitimate source" that leftists call people like Ben Shapiro a white supremacist, what the hell is? CNN?

That was a joke. Of course CNN isn't a legitimate source.

not sure why you're suddenly bringing CNN into this - I don't recall seeing them mentioned elsewhere in the topic

but that video was 11 minutes of people chanting in what appeared to be a classroom, with no other real context given.

legitimacy of the source aside, I'm also not seeing any indication, aside from your post, that the people there were leftist, antifa, or thugs
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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 12:53:49 AM
#78:


averagejoel posted...
but that video was 11 minutes of people chanting in what appeared to be a classroom, with no other real context given.

It was a speech at a university in which Ben expressed no fascist, white supremacist, or Nazi views, and it was interrupted by leftist thugs accusing him of being all of those things.

Here's the entire event:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx1IyxUe3Qc


Now that lack of context isn't an excuse you have on the table anymore, what new excuse are you gonna give?
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YourAlt
08/20/17 1:00:01 AM
#79:


Mal, again, shut the fuck up. NOBODY cares; your ideology is dying with every passing minute.
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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 1:08:38 AM
#80:


YourAlt posted...
Mal, again, shut the f*** up. NOBODY cares

Here's a tip for your future shitposting: when you repeatedly insist that you don't care about someone posting, you're actually admitting that you do care. Because if you really didn't, you wouldn't be posting about it at all ;)
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YourAlt
08/20/17 1:10:33 AM
#81:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
YourAlt posted...
Mal, again, shut the f*** up. NOBODY cares

Here's a tip for your future shitposting: when you repeatedly insist that you don't care about someone posting, you're actually admitting that you do care. Because if you really didn't, you wouldn't be posting about it at all ;)


Damn, you got me!

Again, nobody fucking cares.
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legendary_zell
08/20/17 1:29:28 AM
#82:


Just put Mal on ignore and be done with it. Like Madfoot, no one here has ever had a good faith argument with him, he's never admitted to being wrong about anything, he's never changed his mind, he's not going to stop strawmanning. It's like talking to a particularly single-minded robot programmed to spout whataboutisms.

You'd legit be better of arguing with Admiral and the others. At least they are actual human beings when there is a solar eclipse.
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Dash_Harber
08/20/17 1:57:55 AM
#83:


legendary_zell posted...
Just put Mal on ignore and be done with it. Like Madfoot, no one here has ever had a good faith argument with him, he's never admitted to being wrong about anything, he's never changed his mind, he's not going to stop strawmanning. It's like talking to a particularly single-minded robot programmed to spout whataboutisms.

You'd legit be better of arguing with Admiral and the others. At least they are actual human beings when there is a solar eclipse.


For the first time on this site, I'm actually going to use the ignore feature. That guy won't answer a single straight question. He just goes off on a tangent completely ignoring what everyone is talking about spouting some asinine bullshit and rewriting history to suit his narrative. Apparently, according to him, Vancouver's peaceful demonstration was actually violent because Antifa is inherently violent and in the past Antifa was violent and even though they weren't represented at this example one bit, it's their fault.

It's funny how he accuses others of being triggered and mocks them, yet flies off the handle at the slightest hint of a peaceful counter-protest.
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legendary_zell
08/20/17 2:09:27 AM
#84:


Dash_Harber posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Just put Mal on ignore and be done with it. Like Madfoot, no one here has ever had a good faith argument with him, he's never admitted to being wrong about anything, he's never changed his mind, he's not going to stop strawmanning. It's like talking to a particularly single-minded robot programmed to spout whataboutisms.

You'd legit be better of arguing with Admiral and the others. At least they are actual human beings when there is a solar eclipse.


For the first time on this site, I'm actually going to use the ignore feature. That guy won't answer a single straight question. He just goes off on a tangent completely ignoring what everyone is talking about spouting some asinine bullshit and rewriting history to suit his narrative. Apparently, according to him, Vancouver's peaceful demonstration was actually violent because Antifa is inherently violent and in the past Antifa was violent and even though they weren't represented at this example one bit, it's their fault.

It's funny how he accuses others of being triggered and mocks them, yet flies off the handle at the slightest hint of a peaceful counter-protest.



Like I said, 99 percent of his posts are whataboutisms and gish gallops. Usually both, combined with animosity for "the left". There's no possibility of a real debate with him. But it's a 100 percent certainty that he'll try to spin this as "triggered leftists who lack the maturity and mental horsepower to debate with a non-SJW rationalthinker". Even if all of that were true, he'd still be Mal and it still would not be worth wasting the calories necessary to respond to him.
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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 2:39:40 AM
#85:


Lol, Dash was so upset that I wasn't interested in his posts that he ragequit

SO triggered.
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legendary_zell
08/20/17 2:45:44 AM
#86:


The absolute MADMAN, he actually did it. He said "triggered"! Litrally a conservabot. To the ignore list this new account goes.
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ManSpread
08/20/17 2:47:43 AM
#87:


there was only one time mal fet admitted to being wrong about something and that was when i called him out (with screenshots) after he claimed he never referred to leftists as liberals or didnt use liberal as an insult or something dumb like that
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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 2:57:36 AM
#88:


legendary_zell posted...
The absolute MADMAN, he actually did it. He said "triggered"! Litrally a conservabot. To the ignore list this new account goes.

I've said it many times before. Goes to show how well you actually pay attention to my posts. And why would I care when a constant shitposter puts me on ignore? I should be thanking you.
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YourAlt
08/20/17 5:14:40 AM
#89:


Who remembers when Mal forcefully stated that NATO was formed after 9/11?
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YourAlt
08/20/17 5:19:23 AM
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YourAlt
08/20/17 5:25:02 AM
#91:


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shnangyboos
08/20/17 5:29:25 AM
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3 in a row. Pretty lame.
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YourAlt
08/20/17 12:24:38 PM
#93:


shnangyboos posted...
3 in a row. Pretty lame.


It deserves ten in a row.
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Kaname_Madoka
08/20/17 4:39:37 PM
#94:


is mal trying to say that playing tuba is the exact same thing as beating people up

as a tuba player, im triggered
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Bio1590
08/20/17 4:42:11 PM
#95:


Can we just talk about the fact Mal literally stayed up all night to shitpost on CE
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MaverickXeo
08/20/17 8:30:22 PM
#96:


Here is the truth (another 'protest' which ended in violence toward the 'alt-right' from the liberals):

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/far-right-groups-pinned-in-quebec-city-parking-lot-after-counter-protest-turns-violent/ar-AAqoMlb

Our leader doesn't condemn them; but instead condemns the ones who want 'stronger border control' calling them racists.
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Kaname_Madoka
08/20/17 8:37:38 PM
#97:


MaverickXeo posted...
Here is the truth (another 'protest' which ended in violence toward the 'alt-right' from the liberals):

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/far-right-groups-pinned-in-quebec-city-parking-lot-after-counter-protest-turns-violent/ar-AAqoMlb

Our leader doesn't condemn them; but instead condemns the ones who want 'stronger border control' calling them racists.

literally a different protest
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Dash_Harber
08/21/17 12:33:13 AM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
Here is the truth (another 'protest' which ended in violence toward the 'alt-right' from the liberals):

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/far-right-groups-pinned-in-quebec-city-parking-lot-after-counter-protest-turns-violent/ar-AAqoMlb

Our leader doesn't condemn them; but instead condemns the ones who want 'stronger border control' calling them racists.

literally a different protest

What he said. If your only defense is to bring up something completely unrelated and start talking about that, you might want to rethink your position.
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MaverickXeo
08/21/17 1:30:09 AM
#99:


Dash_Harber posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
Here is the truth (another 'protest' which ended in violence toward the 'alt-right' from the liberals):

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/far-right-groups-pinned-in-quebec-city-parking-lot-after-counter-protest-turns-violent/ar-AAqoMlb

Our leader doesn't condemn them; but instead condemns the ones who want 'stronger border control' calling them racists.

literally a different protest

What he said. If your only defense is to bring up something completely unrelated and start talking about that, you might want to rethink your position.


Completely unrelated? Same type of protest in Eastern Canada (as opposed to western) that shows that counter protesters in Canada do not show how to deal with 'Alt-right' protesters in a civilized manner.
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Dash_Harber
08/21/17 1:30:54 AM
#100:


MaverickXeo posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
Here is the truth (another 'protest' which ended in violence toward the 'alt-right' from the liberals):

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/far-right-groups-pinned-in-quebec-city-parking-lot-after-counter-protest-turns-violent/ar-AAqoMlb

Our leader doesn't condemn them; but instead condemns the ones who want 'stronger border control' calling them racists.

literally a different protest

What he said. If your only defense is to bring up something completely unrelated and start talking about that, you might want to rethink your position.


Completely unrelated? Same type of protest in Eastern Canada (as opposed to western) that shows that counter protesters in Canada do not show how to deal with 'Alt-right' protesters in a civilized manner.


Okay. Read as "Western Canada" from now on. Better?
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