Poll of the Day > The majority of people using this website are adults. Moderators take note.

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The rules on this website should reflect that adults are the main ones posting on here.

The dumbass shit that people are still modded for these days is just ridiculous and had me thinking that I was probably one of a handful of adults posting on here and why moderators had to work tirelessly like that to ensure a near PG type of communication on these boards.

I know a good bit of kids lied and voted for ages they haven't even reached yet but in spite of that, the polls show that a majority of posters on here are adults.

We should be allowed to communicate on these message boards as adults and not have to watch everything we say cause it might offend minors.
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KINDERFELD posted...

We should be allowed to communicate on these message boards as adults and not have to watch everything we say cause it might offend SJWs.

FTFY

metaIslug posted...

It is true we are almost all adults, but I don't think Gamefaqs administration likes that. They want to welcome people of all ages, and so enforcing us to be all family-friendly is how they try to do it.

But there is a huge issue with that because everyone is behind a screen name.
You can't tell someone's age or level of maturity based on a screen name so it makes this entire website experience a bore since adults cannot communicate like adults but have to curtail what they really want to say so as to not offend kids who post on here as well.

Its kinda sad because it shows that websites like these refuse to cater to their aging gaming community, the ones who have been with them since this silly website first started.

Its exactly what Nintendo has done; totally disregard the fact that their longtime fans are aging and grown up. They almost only cater to adults who swoon for nostalgia and little kids.
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KINDERFELD posted...

We should be allowed to communicate on these message boards as adults

And by this you mean what exactly? It doesn't take any effort to be mindful of what we type. If it does, I think the problem lies more with the user than with the rules of these forums. I'm almost 34 years old and have been modded only three times since I started using GameFAQs in 2002, two related to spoilers and one related to emulation. Not once has it be related to the words I used or anything that is inappropriate for a younger audience.
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InfestedAdam posted...

KINDERFELD posted...

We should be allowed to communicate on these message boards as adults

And by this you mean what exactly? It doesn't take any effort to be mindful of what we type. If it does, I think the problem lies more with the user than with the rules of these forums. I'm almost 34 years old and have been modded only three times since I started using GameFAQs in 2002, two related to spoilers and one related to emulation. Not once has it be related to the words I used or anything that is inappropriate for a younger audience.

and do you think you represent the experience of most adult posters on here?

You're terribly mistaken if you think so.

Many many times I've been modded for trolling or being off topic and near all the time is silly mods who are children themselves.

Keeping in mind that the majority of posters on this website are adults, gamefaqs should not only be mindful of this, but also cater to the people who are using their websites.

Ask anyone who posts on other gaming message boards what they think about gamefaqs and near all of them will tell you this place is ridiculous with how utterly brainless the reasons are for the countless moderation you receive on here.

Only recently we were allowed to cuss.

But there is so much censorship that occurs on this website to the point that you'd believe that its a majority of kids lurking on the message boards and not full adult men and who who work and pay taxes.

Gamefaqs will love to attract a bunch of kids to this website and be able to monopolize on their vapid ignorance like Nintendo has been doing, but for some reason, those of us who started posting on here as kids, are now adults and are still posting on here and now make up the majority of the traffic on this website.
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We should start inflicting adult sentencing on those who break the ToS.

Yeah, TAKE NOTE, mods!
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KINDERFELD posted...

and do you think you represent the experience of most adult posters on here?

You're terribly mistaken if you think so.

I never stated my behavior is the norm among users, I merely stated it doesn't take any effort to be mindful of what we type. If it does, the fault lies with the user. Just because we're adults doesn't mean suddenly we're incapable of something as simple as watching our mouths.

KINDERFELD posted...

Many many times I've been modded for trolling or being off topic and near all the time is silly mods who are children themselves.

KINDERFELD posted...

Ask anyone who posts on other gaming message boards what they think about gamefaqs and near all of them will tell you this place is ridiculous with how utterly brainless the reasons are for the countless moderation you receive on here.

I don't deny some rules are a bit strict or archaic but as children we were taught by our elders to follow said rules. As children we had no other choice but to follow said rules as there were no other alternatives for us.

Now as adults are/should be capable of following said rules and are free to resort to other means should we not agree with those rules. We don't need to agree with the rules, we merely need to follow them.

I know you're suggesting the rules should be changed to keep up with the current users. I am merely stating that is not necessary. If anything we, compared to our younger selves, should be more mature and in control of our behaviors and actions.

KINDERFELD posted...

Only recently we were allowed to cuss.

But there is so much censorship that occurs on this website to the point that you'd believe that its a majority of kids lurking on the message boards and not full adult men and who who work and pay taxes.

How does being an adult suddenly make cussing so normal that we must have it in our everyday speech? Are users incapable of using other words to express their emotions and can only resort to certain words? Like I stated earlier, it doesn't take any effort to watch our mouths. Hell, you have to physically type out the word. I can understand accidentally verbally blurting out the words but to type it out impulsively and say it is because we're adults now?
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InfestedAdam posted...

KINDERFELD posted...

and do you think you represent the experience of most adult posters on here?

You're terribly mistaken if you think so.

I never stated my behavior is the norm among users, I merely stated it doesn't take any effort to be mindful of what we type. If it does, the fault lies with the user. Just because we're adults doesn't mean suddenly we're incapable of something as simple as watching our mouths.

KINDERFELD posted...

Many many times I've been modded for trolling or being off topic and near all the time is silly mods who are children themselves.

KINDERFELD posted...

Ask anyone who posts on other gaming message boards what they think about gamefaqs and near all of them will tell you this place is ridiculous with how utterly brainless the reasons are for the countless moderation you receive on here.

I don't deny some rules are a bit strict or archaic but as children we were taught by our elders to follow said rules. As children we had no other choice but to follow said rules as there were no other alternatives for us.

Now as adults are/should be capable of following said rules and are free to resort to other means should we not agree with those rules. We don't need to agree with the rules, we merely need to follow them.

I know you're suggesting the rules should be changed to keep up with the current users. I am merely stating that is not necessary. If anything we, compared to our younger selves, should be more mature and in control of our behaviors and actions.

KINDERFELD posted...

Only recently we were allowed to cuss.

But there is so much censorship that occurs on this website to the point that you'd believe that its a majority of kids lurking on the message boards and not full adult men and who who work and pay taxes.

How does being an adult suddenly make cussing so normal that we must have it in our everyday speech? Are users incapable of using other words to express their emotions and can only resort to certain words? Like I stated earlier, it doesn't take any effort to watch our mouths. Heck, you have to physically type out the word. I can understand accidentally verbally blurting out the words but to type it out impulsively and say it is because we're adults now?

Way to show you're a tool by just getting in line and shutting the hell up.

But some of us are thinkers/visionaries and question the legitimacy of the status quo and are rightful for doing so.

This is how trends are changed and updated.

People who have the ability to think and visualize things being a better way, speak out about it and do not just fall into line like cattle.
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KINDERFELD posted...

Way to show you're a tool by just getting in line and shutting the hell up.

But some of us are thinkers/visionaries and question the legitimacy of the status quo and are rightful for doing so.

This is how trends are changed and updated.

People who have the ability to think and visualize things being a better way, speak out about it and do not just fall into line like cattle.

For something as simple as a gaming/social forum, I am fine being cattle and adhering to the rules to continue to use it. GameFAQs in its current state have served my needs over the 15 years I have used it thus I see no reason to change it.

Of all my concerns in life, the inability to truly express myself on a forum to strangers is the least of my worries. Should I want to change something for the better, I'd do it with something that actually matters but to each his own.
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TC sounds like a petulant child.
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Think of the children!
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they may want all ages to come here, but they don't. no matter how bad they want kids posting here, kids don't like message boards. kids use social media and texting. message boards are old fashioned.

KINDERFELD posted...

it makes this entire website experience a bore since adults cannot communicate like adults but have to curtail what they really want to say so as to not offend kids who post on here as well.

I don't have any particular difficulty communicating like an adult here. Maybe you're just really bad at communicating like an adult, and try to compensate for that with "mature language"?
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Tezlok posted...

they may want all ages to come here, but they don't. no matter how bad they want kids posting here, kids don't like message boards. kids use social media and texting. message boards are old fashioned.

Qft
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I'm quite positive that, despite age, a majority of the community still needs to be told how to behave.
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KINDERFELD posted...

The majority of people using this website are adults. Moderators take note.

The rules on this website should reflect that adults are the main ones posting on here.

1) That's not actually up to the moderators in any way. Their entire purpose is solely to enact the rules as established by corporate ownership via site administrators. If you want a paradigm shift in ToS implementation and enforcement, you'd have to go straight to the admins (who establish the rules), not the mods (who merely enforce them). It's essentially like blaming your local police because the federal government passes laws you disagree with.

2) The number of adults on the site is immaterial, because regardless of whether or not you believe this should be the case, the fact remains that the site allows anyone over the age of 12 to make accounts, which includes people who are legally minors in many countries - including the US, which is where the site's servers reside, which also determines which laws the site is subject to. Because the site itself is owned by a corporation that has a responsibility to protect itself from potential legal issues, they're more or less compelled to cover their ass in a number of ways, which is the motivation behind a lot of the more "family friendly" aspects of the ToU. The last thing the corporate overlords want is to have to fend off lawsuits from angry parents filed against a site that is probably only barely profitable these days anyway.

3) No one is actually forcing you to post here. If you find the rules as written and enforced so utterly draconian and unacceptable, there are literally thousands of social media alternatives out there just waiting for you.

The irony being, for all that people bitch about it, moderation on the site has loosened up quite a bit from where it was 10+ years ago, and things like profanity filters (to eliminate the need for across the board banned word flagging/automodding) are pretty clearly a significant effort to cater to older users while still covering them legally when it comes to younger users.



KINDERFELD posted...

We should be allowed to communicate on these message boards as adults and not have to watch everything we say cause it might offend minors.

To be fair, we're kind of lucky they allow social boards at all on a video game site which was originally explicitly established for the sole purpose of posting FAQs, and which later expanded to including message boards for users to ask questions about specific games.

If anything, it's a miracle CJayC didn't eliminate social boards entirely and strictly enforce topicality after LUE became a phenomenal clusterfuck.



metaIslug posted...

It is true we are almost all adults

Chronologically, sure. Though there's ample evidence to suggest that a massive percentage of users who at least legally qualify for "adulthood" fail pretty strongly when it comes to actually displaying anything resembling psychological or emotional maturity.

Perhaps tellingly, those also tend to be exactly the sorts of users who seem most likely to make topics bitching about moderation on the site, or complaining about how their last moderation was totally unfair and how much of an outrage it is that their free speech rights are being violated, etc etc.


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Tezlok posted...

they may want all ages to come here, but they don't. no matter how bad they want kids posting here, kids don't like message boards. kids use social media and texting. message boards are old fashioned.

Agreed and gamefaq needs to realize this.
Its not a bunch of minors posting on these message boards anymore but adults who should be allowed to have discussions like adults.

The posters in here who chose to play a passive role are probably minors or they're deceiving themselves into believing that in reality, they have these PG conversations with their adult friends and counterparts.
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I mean, they do. Are you constantly cussing or something?
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I think we should be able to put mods on Ignore. I keep them all on my unofficial Ignore list since you can't officially ignore them.
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What's considered a kid? Under 18? Under 12? At what age do you consider innocence lost and the allusions to sex, violence, drugs etc. becoming realities?

And I really wonder what kind of mature evolution the TC imagines gamefaQs to blossom into.
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I was aware of all those things when I was 7, but it took until I was an adult to realize that was just my environment and not normal.
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I still have a time following how loose the moderation is compared to when I joined. I err on the side of caution and try not to be an ass to others.

It is obvious that many can't do that and need mods to rein them in at times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXyuc1ZwKqA

Firewood18 posted...

What's considered a kid? Under 18? Under 12? At what age do you consider innocence lost and the allusions to sex, violence, drugs etc. becoming realities?

And I really wonder what kind of mature evolution the TC imagines gamefaQs to blossom into.>

A place that doesn't function like the majority of people posting on these message boards are middle school kids.
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Middle school was interesting and important. It transitioned us from cool backpacks and lunch boxes to fashion, boobs and muscles. You may not have known what to do with these new things but it happened.

Having a modicum of respect for that isn't too much to handle.
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Blaqthourne posted...

TC sounds like a petulant child.

Gonna go with this.
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Some of the mods are incapable of separating "I don't like" from "real TOS violation." No matter the rules, some self-important neck beard will take out his high school bullying on others here.
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The website is still for 13+ years.
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KINDERFELD posted...

A place that doesn't function like the majority of people posting on these message boards are middle school kids.

Which... still doesn't answer the question. That's awfully vague. What specific behaviours are you looking to have tolerated?
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yeah I'm not really seeing what "adult conversations" you are trying to have here that they wont let you
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Blaqthourne posted...

TC sounds like a petulant child.

Or butthurt he got modded.

I'm curious what he wants to be done making it more "adult-friendly", especially after they allowed swear words. Besides straight up allowing links to porn or something, what would make it more "adult."

This seems to be like one of those situations where people misunderstand what the word "mature" means, like the M rating on a video game box. Being able to see boobs and hearing cursing isn't mature. Being able to act like a calm and competent human beings is. Mentally and emotionally mature, basically. And you're kidding yourself if that describes the outright majority of people here. Ever since they relaxed trolling rules here years ago, some boards have basically become unbearable to go to. And that's just trolling.

We all have horror stories where a mod clearly fucked us. But a modless message board renders a place a wind-blown hellscape like Reddit or other boards, and I really don't want that.
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We got adult boards.
If you just want to post boobs, then there are multiple other websites for that.
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Exactly.
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You guys honestly think this website operates like the majority of us posting on here are adults?

Seriously now.

smh.
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Unless gamefaqs has it right that the majority of us posting on here are adults who like being treated like if we're children.
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you can post about banging tinder sluts, getting drunk, doing your taxes, and going to work. what other adult conversations are you looking for?

After reading this entire thread... I'm still confused as to what changes the TC would want gamefaqs to make. Like, specific changes and not the "treat us like adults" line of thinking. What does the TC want to change in order to feel like they are being treated how they want to be?
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Funny thing about these boards is that while most people may technically be adults... very very few of them actually act like it.
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Unfortunately, there are many "adults" here that terrorize and harass other users, making this place seem toxic. They aren't communicating like adults, they are behaving like immature children.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Unfortunately, there are many "adults" here that terrorize and harass other users, making this place seem toxic. They aren't communicating like adults, they are behaving like immature children.

WTF are you talking about?
Are you 12?
If someone is harassing you on this message boad, utilize the freaking ignore button.

Seems like many of you are indeed adults who like being treated as children.

Sickeningly sad.
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Just because you can ignore users doesn't mean they should be allowed to behave the way they do. Also, ignoring them isn't a solution, it's just a bandaid. It doesn't stop them from being terrible people who treat other users terribly.
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Everyone who posts on GameFAQs is an adult who posted here back when they were 13. All the cool hip teens are using one of those websites that aren't stuck in 2002.
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KINDERFELD posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

Unfortunately, there are many "adults" here that terrorize and harass other users, making this place seem toxic. They aren't communicating like adults, they are behaving like immature children.

WTF are you talking about?
Are you 12?
If someone is harassing you on this message boad, utilize the freaking ignore button.

Seems like many of you are indeed adults who like being treated as children.

Sickeningly sad.

TC confirming what many of us assumed about him from the start.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Just because you can ignore users doesn't mean they should be allowed to behave the way they do. Also, ignoring them isn't a solution, it's just a bandaid. It doesn't stop them from being terrible people who treat other users terribly.

And those people who that poster is harassing should put him/her on ignore and move on.

Guide posted...

KINDERFELD posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

Unfortunately, there are many "adults" here that terrorize and harass other users, making this place seem toxic. They aren't communicating like adults, they are behaving like immature children.

WTF are you talking about?
Are you 12?
If someone is harassing you on this message boad, utilize the freaking ignore button.

Seems like many of you are indeed adults who like being treated as children.

Sickeningly sad.

TC confirming what many of us assumed about him from the start.

And you think I give 2 shillings about your assumptions or are you here to prove to me why its necessary for mods to police these message boards like we're juvenile?
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Why do you ask? Did I imply I thought that?
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Guide posted...

Why do you ask? Did I imply I thought that?

Because you responded as if your assumptions mattered at all.

We're discussing the message boards and that it should reflect that the majorty of posters are adults.

I'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve by making assumptions about me, but its somewhat proving why moderators need to treat some of us adults as if we're children.
So go on with your assumptions of me while ignoring what this topic is discussing.
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KINDERFELD posted...

but its somewhat proving why moderators need to treat some of us adults as if we're children.

Only the harassers/bullies/trolls need to be treated like children. You keep claiming that those being harassed are the ones acting like children which is completely erroneous.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

KINDERFELD posted...

but its somewhat proving why moderators need to treat some of us adults as if we're children.

Only the harassers/bullies/trolls need to be treated like children. You keep claiming that those being harassed are the ones acting like children which is completely erroneous.

No, I'm saying the website has already provided you a solution to harassing posters however, you chose to take the childish route by having a war of words with someone who's harassing you instead of putting them on ignore.
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KINDERFELD posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

KINDERFELD posted...

but its somewhat proving why moderators need to treat some of us adults as if we're children.

Only the harassers/bullies/trolls need to be treated like children. You keep claiming that those being harassed are the ones acting like children which is completely erroneous.

No, I'm saying the website has already provided you a solution to harassing posters however, you chose to take the childish route by having a war of words with someone who's harassing you instead of putting them on ignore.

This is crazy. At least this place doesn't have a post limit like Miiverse.
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