Board 8 > FBI planning to nab Weinstein before he can escape justice like Polanski

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Vlado
10/13/17 3:16:38 PM
#102:


Is hollywood being full of creeps also a "conspiracy theory"? When every single day proves some former "conspiracy theory" correct, a person with at least an ounce of dignity would probably stop throwing that term around...

The comic is a logical fallacy through and through. Might as well have thrown flat-earthers in there as well, eh? The goal is to group together people with reasonable non-MSM-propagated claims with those whose claims are verifiably false. Sorry, no intelligent person is falling for that.

Making comics defending central banking and global corporations, i.e. the ones holding most of the power in the world today... So brave, so rebellious!

foolm0r0n posted...
Saying it's not about race because Japanese people aren't white is grouping

At most it's saying that these cultures share a positive trait.

foolm0r0n posted...
But you would never tolerate Japanese people migrating to Bulgaria, Germany, France, Russia, America, Canada like you would tolerate Bulgarians, Germans, French, Russians, Americans, Canadians migrating between those countries

By default, I wouldn't tolerate a Japanese migrating here any more than I would an American. It all depends on the person. Ideally, people stay in their own countries and work to make them better.
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Kenri
10/13/17 3:19:48 PM
#103:


Vlado posted...
Is hollywood being full of creeps also a "conspiracy theory"?

It is when feminists are the ones claiming it.
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foolm0r0n
10/13/17 3:34:11 PM
#104:


Vlado posted...
By default, I wouldn't tolerate a Japanese migrating here any more than I would an American

You wouldn't know if it's an American though, or a German, Russian, etc

You would know if they were Japanese
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TheRock1525
10/13/17 4:00:04 PM
#105:


What makes an American an American, Vlado?

We have Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, British-Americans, African-Americans, Chinese-Americans, Japanese-Americans, Spanish-Americans, Mexican-Americans, German-Americans, French-Americans, Iraqi-Americans, Afghan-Americans, etc.

For example, I am a descendant of Irish, Italian, German, Prussian, and African ancestry. My great-grand parents migrated from Italy, so at what point did my family tree transition from culturally Italian to culturally American?
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foolm0r0n
10/13/17 4:11:40 PM
#106:


Vlado doesn't know about American culture or anything outside of Bulgaria really. That's what most everyone misses when they argue with him about this stuff. Everything is 100% from a post-soviet viewpoint.
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TheRock1525
10/13/17 6:24:41 PM
#107:


I guess what I'm arguing is that there is no uniform American culture.
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Eddv
10/13/17 6:25:29 PM
#108:


TheRock1525 posted...
German, Prussian,


Germany is Prussia.

Just so you know
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TheRock1525
10/13/17 6:40:10 PM
#109:


Eddv posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
German, Prussian,


Germany is Prussia.

Just so you know


Right but I am an ancestor from someone from Germany and someone from Prussia.
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Vlado
10/14/17 4:04:07 AM
#110:


TheRock1525 posted...
What makes an American an American, Vlado?

Upholding the ideals of the United States' founding fathers. The ideals described in the constitution and the bill of rights.

Meanwhile... http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/355123-trump-eases-obamacare-rules-with-executive-order

"Having failed to repeal the law in Congress, the president is sabotaging the system, using a wrecking ball to singlehandedly rip apart our health care system," Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) said in a statement.

So salty.
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MoogleKupo141
10/14/17 5:08:32 AM
#111:


yes, Trump is salty about not getting Obamacare repealed
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foolm0r0n
10/14/17 5:55:07 AM
#112:


Vlado posted...
Upholding the ideals of the United States' founding fathers. The ideals described in the constitution and the bill of rights.

Millions of people you say are anti-American are like this. You can't just shit out a politically correct opinion when it doesn't match anything you say. Go to Congress for that.
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Vlado
10/14/17 6:32:44 AM
#113:


foolm0r0n posted...
Millions of people you say are anti-American are like this.

You mean like the anti-1st and 2nd amendment people? No, they do not uphold the ideals of the constitution if they are against them.
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Jakyl25
10/14/17 7:29:51 AM
#114:


Where should Native Americans go to preserve their culture?
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Blaziken
10/14/17 10:07:46 AM
#115:


Vlado posted...
foolm0r0n posted...
Millions of people you say are anti-American are like this.

You mean like the anti-1st and 2nd amendment people? No, they do not uphold the ideals of the constitution if they are against them.


The people you claim are "protecting" the constitution are the exact ones attacking the 1st amendment. Freedom of Assembly? Which party has their leader calling for a boycott of the NFL because players are kneeling during the national anthem (you know, politely protesting as opposed to talking and joking around to disgrace the flag)? Freedom of the Press? Which party had their leader deny access to certain media outlets at his press briefings, and most recently tweeted about revoking broadcast licenses for media outlets that are critical towards him? Freedom of Religion? Which party's leader imposed a travel ban that directly targeted a specific religion? Freedom of Speech? See Freedom of Assembly/Press, but through in that only one party drove a car through disagreeing protestors and killed one.

Just because you and all the other conservatives think that criticism and protesting your ignorance is an assault on your rights, doesn't mean it's true. So suck it up, Snowflake. And try again, because you CLEARLY don't understand American culture. You're just throwing out half-assed arguments with no basis in fact because you're too much of a coward to just admit it's all about white, Christian supremacy for you.
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TheRock1525
10/14/17 10:49:22 AM
#116:


Vlado posted...

Upholding the ideals of the United States' founding fathers. The ideals described in the constitution and the bill of rights.


And why can't immigrants do that?
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foolm0r0n
10/14/17 1:02:33 PM
#117:


Vlado posted...
You mean like the anti-1st and 2nd amendment people? No, they do not uphold the ideals of the constitution if they are against them.

No I mean the pro-1st and 2nd amendment people
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Vlado
10/14/17 1:43:56 PM
#118:


Blaziken posted...
boycott

How is that a problem? It's called voting with your wallet, and is something everyone should do.

Blaziken posted...
deny access to certain media outlets

Said media outlets deny him fair coverage, slandering and libeling him with fake news 24/7. His response is absolutely trivial in comparison. In a better world, they would have been disbanded and their properties seized already. "Wah, but he bashes them on twitter!" Only fair, and again, very trivial response in comparison to the force they attack him with. You do not appreciate how liberal of a leader Trump actually is.

Blaziken posted...
travel ban that directly targeted a specific religion

Yeah, that never happened.

Please come back whenever you have some coherent thoughts that we can discuss.

TheRock1525 posted...
And why can't immigrants do that?

Everything is possible in theory, but it would largely depend on the culture these immigrants would be coming from. Some cultures are diametrically opposed to the values of the US constitution. It's only natural people from such culture would have a hard time or refuse to integrate, so it's only natural the US people would then not want them in their country. Which cultures would be more likely to follow these ideals? And therefore, migrants from what countries would be more desirable?

Instead of emigrating, people should work to improve their own countries.

More importantly, why are you so fixated on immigration? What good would immigration bring to the average US citizen? Please name concrete things.
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LordoftheMorons
10/14/17 2:07:08 PM
#119:


So you're for free speech and press if and only if they say things you like

In other words, you're 100% against them (just like Trump).
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Vlado
10/14/17 2:12:24 PM
#120:


LordoftheMorons posted...
So you're for free speech and press if and only if they say things you like

In other words, you're 100% against them (just like Trump).

Wrong, that's the globalists, e.g. you. I'm against libel, however, as are most sane people. Spreading, for instance, the "Russians hacked the elections" story before a solid proof has been presented to the public is nothing but libel. Do not try to lump libel and freedom of the press together.
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Uglyface2
10/14/17 2:13:47 PM
#121:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Odd that you'd want to shift focus to Donald Trump so fast instead of uncovering the obvious targets lurking throughout Hollywood, mc.

Could that be because most of them, like Weinstein, are massive financial contributors to the democratic party?


Democrat or Republican, if you have to tear down the works then do it and arrest the lot of them.
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Vlado
10/14/17 2:13:59 PM
#122:


https://twitter.com/ZeroPointNow/status/919124870012723200/video/1

Reminder about the kind of people us anti-globalists are fighting. Hollywood is full of scum - and those people are forming public opinion to a large extent. Hollywood also took a stance against Trump...
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LordoftheMorons
10/14/17 2:25:35 PM
#123:


Vlado posted...
Wrong, that's the globalists, e.g. you. I'm against libel, however, as are most sane people. Spreading, for instance, the "Russians hacked the elections" story before a solid proof has been presented to the public is nothing but libel. Do not try to lump libel and freedom of the press together.

a) It's not libel; there's quite a bit of evidence for the Russians interfering in the elections (not for "hacking" the elections, but very few people are actually claiming that.)
b) In the US, the standard for a story about a public figure to be libel it has to involve "actual malice":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._Sullivan
This is a very high standard, and pretty much all of the stories Trump complains about are just straight up true. He constantly whines about negative press coverage because he's a narcissist who has never been held accountable for his actions in his life before he was elected president.

The freedom to criticize the government, and the president specifically, is the most important part of the freedoms of speech and press. If you don't believe in that then claiming you believe in them at all is laughable.
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foolm0r0n
10/14/17 2:28:45 PM
#124:


Yes we know facism is predicated on killing innocent people for "libel" and "blasphemy" and "degeneracy"
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Espeon
10/14/17 2:36:48 PM
#125:


Vlado posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
So you're for free speech and press if and only if they say things you like

In other words, you're 100% against them (just like Trump).

Wrong, that's the globalists, e.g. you. I'm against libel, however, as are most sane people. Spreading, for instance, the "Russians hacked the elections" story before a solid proof has been presented to the public is nothing but libel. Do not try to lump libel and freedom of the press together.


So you're ready to apologize for the steady stream of unverified Seth Rich lies then? 'Cause again, there's a LOT of open lying on the conservative side.
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Vlado
10/14/17 2:39:48 PM
#126:


Espeon posted...
Seth Rich

I've always said there was not enough evidence to be certain yet, just a bunch of extremely fishy "coincidences." Still, as one true to my words, I cannot claim that he was killed for his leaks as fact, and haven't.

LordoftheMorons posted...
Russians interfering in the elections (not for "hacking" the elections, but very few people are actually claiming that.)

"Very few"... lmao, right. If the charge is "interference" in the first place, then it's literally nothing. Anything can be called "interference," with the rate they're downgrading (first it was hacking the election machines, then it was hacking DNC, then it was buying ads on facebook, now it's fucking POKEMON GO, btw - yes, CNN literally claimed Russians influenced US elections via Pokemon Go), I bet soon they'll claim RT reporting on the elections was actually the "interference," and try to ban RT from broadcasting in the US. lmfao

LordoftheMorons posted...
b) In the US, the standard for a story about a public figure to be libel it has to involve "actual malice"

Because there is totally no malice from NBC, CNN, NYT and all the other globalist crooks towards Trump...

LMFAO
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LordoftheMorons
10/14/17 2:43:02 PM
#127:


Hacking the DNC and John Podesta's emails are crimes you idiot
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scarletspeed7
10/14/17 2:44:18 PM
#128:


Vlado posted...
LMFAO
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This is the worst acrostic in history. Not only did you only complete one line, but you also used the acrostic's baseword as the one line you did complete. You are extremely lazy and untalented.
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Vlado
10/14/17 2:44:55 PM
#129:


Just so it doesn't get lost in a sea of nonsense - which some users here would very much like:

Vlado posted...
https://twitter.com/ZeroPointNow/status/919124870012723200/video/1

Reminder about the kind of people us anti-globalists are fighting. Hollywood is full of scum - and those people are forming public opinion to a large extent. Hollywood also took a stance against Trump...

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scarletspeed7
10/14/17 2:47:05 PM
#130:


Trump spent years working with Hollywood to run Celebrity Apprentice.
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Uglyface2
10/14/17 2:54:04 PM
#131:


scarletspeed7 posted...
This is the worst acrostic in history. Not only did you only complete one line, but you also used the acrostic's baseword as the one line you did complete. You are extremely lazy and untalented.


KAT
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CoolCly
10/14/17 3:34:56 PM
#132:


Vlado posted...
Said media outlets deny him fair coverage, slandering and libeling him with fake news 24/7. His response is absolutely trivial in comparison. In a better world, they would have been disbanded and their properties seized already


what the fucking fuck
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Jakyl25
10/14/17 4:30:48 PM
#133:


Vlado posted...
More importantly, why are you so fixated on immigration? What good would immigration bring to the average US citizen? Please name concrete things.


The point is that it would allow the immigrants to have a better life. That's more important than preserving any "culture"
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foolm0r0n
10/14/17 5:24:41 PM
#134:


Vlado posted...
Just so it doesn't get lost in a sea of nonsense - which some users here would very much like:

Vlado posted...
https://twitter.com/ZeroPointNow/status/919124870012723200/video/1

Reminder about the kind of people us anti-globalists are fighting. Hollywood is full of scum - and those people are forming public opinion to a large extent. Hollywood also took a stance against Trump...

You love murderers and pedophiles when they support your white supremacist view
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/14/17 6:42:10 PM
#136:


Hmm okay I'm curious about something, so I'll go back to your "old caelus" for a second. What's this about pokemon go being used to influence the election?
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CoolCly
10/14/17 7:13:04 PM
#137:


on the topic of Harvey Weinstein

I've seen a lot of stuff that indicates that it's not just Harvey that is giant creep, his brother Bob is exactly the same way. But it seems like Bob is getting off scot free and getting control of everything they are taking from Harvey. Why is this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr7SeMADIwo#t=13m30s

This video was made almost 20 years ago and is clearly about Bob and Harvey Weinstein.
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GuessMyUserName
10/14/17 7:17:24 PM
#138:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Trump spent years working with Hollywood to run Celebrity Apprentice.

while also being on tape saying that people like him are allowed to sexually harass women
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LordoftheMorons
10/14/17 7:19:46 PM
#139:


GuessMyUserName posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
Trump spent years working with Hollywood to run Celebrity Apprentice.

while also being on tape saying that people like him are allowed to sexually harass women

Don't worry guys, Vlado assures us that it was "obviously just a joke"
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ChaosTonyV4
10/14/17 7:29:28 PM
#140:


GuessMyUserName posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
Trump spent years working with Hollywood to run Celebrity Apprentice.

while also being on tape saying that people like him are allowed to sexually harass women


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foolm0r0n
10/14/17 9:09:01 PM
#142:


Trump was 100% talking about people like Weinstein (which includes Trump) so I don't see why Vlado would disagree with that
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Vlado
10/16/17 3:00:47 AM
#143:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
What's this about pokemon go being used to influence the election?

Let me try to find the clip...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW4ARP7lgvs


You cannot make this thing up. :D

Jakyl25 posted...
The point is that it would allow the immigrants to have a better life. That's more important than preserving any "culture"

1. That's a lie.
2. No, it's not more important. Nobody is entitled to anything in this world, much less "better life." We will not burn millenia of history and culture for the sake of misguided, utopian, impossible idealism.
3. You're dodging my question.
Vlado posted...
More importantly, why are you so fixated on immigration? What good would immigration bring to the average US citizen? Please name concrete things.


CoolCly posted...
on the topic of Harvey Weinstein

I've seen a lot of stuff that indicates that it's not just Harvey that is giant creep, his brother Bob is exactly the same way. But it seems like Bob is getting off scot free and getting control of everything they are taking from Harvey. Why is this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr7SeMADIwo#t=13m30s

This video was made almost 20 years ago and is clearly about Bob and Harvey Weinstein.

I agree that his brother, and everyone else like that, should also face justice. That excerpt you posted is very disturbing. That kind of behaviour should not be normalised. I do not mind siding with feminists when it's about cleaning society from such filth.
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Kenri
10/16/17 3:15:47 AM
#144:


Vlado posted...
Nobody is entitled to anything in this world, much less "better life."

What's even the point of society then
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MoogleKupo141
10/16/17 3:51:35 AM
#145:


No, it's not more important. Nobody is entitled to anything in this world, much less "better life." We will not burn millenia of history and culture for the sake of misguided, utopian, impossible idealism.


giving immigrants a better life isn't impossible idealism, it's literally the origin of the United States
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Vlado
10/16/17 4:10:02 AM
#146:


Kenri posted...
Vlado posted...
Nobody is entitled to anything in this world, much less "better life."

What's even the point of society then

The point isn't to bring about communism/globalism, sorry to burst your bubble.

Society is built because people can achieve more while working together. The point of society is to advance humanity. To slow the advancement of humanity for the sake of misguided, utopian, impossible idealism would be the death of society.

People must take care of themselves first and foremost. And countries take care of their own people first and foremost. No foreigner must ever take precedence over a native.
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MariaTaylor
10/16/17 4:13:59 AM
#147:


there is value to legal immigration. the issue is that too many people try to lump this in with illegal immigration which has literally no value whatsoever and is an active drain on society. this actually causes problems with people on BOTH sides of the debate while trying to discuss it.

pro immigration people who refuse to separate the two will automatically perceive a stance against illegal immigration as a hostile stance against all immigration

anti immigration people who refuse to separate the two will continually claim that immigration gives no benefit to society because they are specifically butthurt about specifically illegal immigration

MoogleKupo141 posted...
giving immigrants a better life isn't impossible idealism, it's literally the origin of the United States


the origin of the united states is definitely not to give a better life to every single immigrant who could potentially come here from anywhere in the world with no questions asked and no strings attached. if you believe that you are woefully ignorant of history. that is not the origin of the united states nor has it ever been anything that we have done. first of all, immigration was heavily slanted in favor of european immigrants until the immigration act of 1965. secondly, legal immigration into the united states in the modern era has not been something where anyone can just wander in. there are official channels you are supposed to go to. it's not AT ALL about just picking random people all over the world and bringing them here to make their lives better. the entire idea behind legal immigration is to draw in skilled individuals from different parts of the world who can bring with them the ability to benefit society.
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Vlado
10/16/17 4:26:29 AM
#148:


MariaTaylor posted...
there is value to legal immigration. the issue is that too many people try to lump this in with illegal immigration which has literally no value whatsoever and is an active drain on society. this actually causes problems with people on BOTH sides of the debate while trying to discuss it.

pro immigration people who refuse to separate the two will automatically perceive a stance against illegal immigration as a hostile stance against all immigration

anti immigration people who refuse to separate the two will continually claim that immigration gives no benefit to society because they are specifically butthurt about specifically illegal immigration

Good point. I am not against legal immigration, but it's obviously important to have very strict criteria on it. Japan has set a good example in that regard.
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Kenri
10/16/17 4:28:25 AM
#149:


Vlado posted...
People must take care of themselves first and foremost. And countries take care of their own people first and foremost. No foreigner must ever take precedence over a native.

Countries aren't real things buddy there is literally no difference between a foreigner and a native.
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ChaosTonyV4
10/16/17 4:44:27 AM
#150:


MariaTaylor posted...
there is value to legal immigration. the issue is that too many people try to lump this in with illegal immigration which has literally no value whatsoever and is an active drain on society. this actually causes problems with people on BOTH sides of the debate while trying to discuss it.


[Citation needed]

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/pdf_notes/note151.pdf

In 2010, the Social Security Administration estimated 10 billion in revenue from illegal immigrants.

These are people who pay taxes and can literally never use social security.
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MariaTaylor
10/16/17 4:46:24 AM
#151:


yeah that sounds nice until you realize it's offset by the 100 billion a year that we lose by harboring illegal immigrants.

so I mean that's a net -90 billion
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MariaTaylor
10/16/17 4:48:37 AM
#152:


and look it up yourself, it's not that hard. I'm not writing an academic paper here. if you don't care enough about the truth to do your own research then why should I care?

"citation needed" lmfao

okay professor
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TheRock1525
10/16/17 4:51:26 AM
#153:


Vlado posted...
Society is built because people can achieve more while working together. The point of society is to advance humanity. To slow the advancement of humanity for the sake of misguided, utopian, impossible idealism would be the death of society.


Weird how you're pushing globalism here but I guess if you suddenly believe it's ok, that's cool.
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