Board 8 > FBI planning to nab Weinstein before he can escape justice like Polanski

(+) Yeah! (+)

Except nobody can win such an argument because it's just two sides with vastly different views shouting at each other.
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Vlado posted...

given even just simply

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Vlado posted...

Except nobody can win such an argument because it's just two sides with vastly different views shouting at each other.

Which has exactly nothing to do with whether or not people perceive themselves as the victors.
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True...
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Terastodon posted...

Vlado posted...

Except nobody can win such an argument because it's just two sides with vastly different views shouting at each other.

Which has exactly nothing to do with whether or not people perceive themselves as the victors.

and this is ultimately a good explanation for why it's really not interesting for me to read their posts or to read such arguments.
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See, I disagree there.

Just because shouting at the guy across from you in an attempt to change his mind is dumb, doesn't mean outside observers can't pick up value from one or both sides by listening to their arguments.

Unless of course, they resort to childish name calling and garbage arguments. Then feel free to look elsewhere.
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well you guys didn't quote the entire comment chain but this is the part that particularly spoke to what I'm talking about

Terastodon posted...

It's not necessarily intelligence, it's more likely to display a crippling amount of self doubt and insecurity that can be massaged by -in their minds- winning an online argument to reinforce their own strength.

totally worthless intellectual masturbation by people who are not even all that smart.

for the record I do scour the internet and read political opinions from many different people from a variety of different political leanings. so it's not like I'm willfully ignorant or anything here. it's just really obvious after spending enough time on board 8 that most people here don't have anything valuable to say. unless reading the same 'vlado fanfiction' joke or seeing someone call him a white supremicist for the 800th time is going to somehow elucidate me on the political landscape of the US.

and to be fair to both sides, neither is reading Vlado call himself intelligent and warn of the dangers of a vague, looming globalist threat a very unique perspective. I can get that information from many different places. it just so happens that on board 8, specifically, it doesn't provoke any kind of discussion other than him getting yelled at by a variety of people.
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(well I say variety but it's usually the same 8 people)
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MariaTaylor posted...

it just so happens that on board 8, specifically, it doesn't provoke any kind of discussion other than him getting yelled at by a variety of people.

What sort of discussion should it provoke?

Not denying that going into Vlado topics to argue with him is intellectual masturbation, but what's the harm? These are safe spaces for that where it's not interfering in a more productive topic. Vlado so gracefully presents himself as a target to make us feel smarter
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Jakyl25 posted...

What sort of discussion should it provoke?

I'm not arguing what kind of discussion it should provoke. I'm saying that I'm interested in observing discussions that have a point, and the discussions here do not have a point. aside from making me realize how ineffectual and impotent some message board nerds are.

Jakyl25 posted...

Not denying that going into Vlado topics to argue with him is intellectual masturbation, but what's the harm? These are safe spaces for that where it's not interfering in a more productive topic. Vlado so gracefully presents himself as a target to make us feel smarter

I did not say it was harmful, I said I was not interested in reading it

similarly if I knew someone was masturbating in the conference room on the third floor every day I would not go in there to watch them do it.
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(this is a great example of the low cunning of board 8 btw, attribute a message to the other person that they DID NOT SAY and then argue against that position)
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What we fight, exhibit #21352437:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP2OAS1nRio
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MariaTaylor posted...

'vlado fanfiction' joke or seeing someone call him a white supremicist for the 800th time is going to somehow elucidate me on the political landscape of the US.

Have you seen America recently? That is exactly what the current political landscape is in America.
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MariaTaylor posted...

similarly if I knew someone was masturbating in the conference room on the third floor every day I would not go in there to watch them do it.

But are they HOT???
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And god, Tucker has that same stupid face in EVERY thumbnail
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Vlado posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Uh no?

Almost everything comes with some good and some bad. You're the one saying how we shouldn't strive for utopia

Uh yes? You've failed to make a compelling argument in favour of immigration. You've failed to state, with concrete examples, how it would be good for the average US citizen. Therefore, there is no reason for a non-indoctrinated person to support it. You only support it because of your religi... I mean ideology.

Jakyl25 posted...

So you're saying that if we globalists can wipe out "western civilization" then that's just too bad so sad for you? Cool

"Might is right" has always been the only law that has been truly valid in the world. There is no escaping from that fact, whether I like it or not.

And that is why resistance, and powerful resistance, is necessary before it's too late. Fortunately, as Austria also has just shown, resistance is there, and globalism's path towards quietly subverting the world, which had been working quite well until a few years ago, is gone completely.

The only way globalism has now is through sheer force. And any such victory is but a temporary one.

I'm not saying we've already won, but, on a timeline of 100+ years, there is no way for us to lose unless humans literally become cattle in a matrix-like dystopian future. But for the globalists, that would be like a single player putting the game on 2-player mode and beating up the opponent who isn't even moving. What would be left of the world in such a case would not be worth winning.

So yes. As long as free thinking exists, globalism is destined to lose. Just like communism before it. Because the two are essentially the same inside, just the package is different.

MariaTaylor posted...

you have a guy who you perceive as the dumbest human being on the planet and yet you spend day after day punching down on him to make yourself feel smart. what does that actually say about your own level of intelligence?

They don't even think that, regardless of what they're trying to portray in their posts. It's quite obvious that I am very intelligent given even just simply the structure and compositions of my thoughts that I share in my posts here. They are just so baffled that somebody intelligent can also be so mercilessly anti-liberal because they don't know better. That's literally all that they have been taught in the indoctrination environment they've sadly had to live in - that liberals are "right" and "smart" and conservatives are "wrong" and "stupid."

That's why, to them, to be conservative is to be "wrong" and "stupid." Despite the obvious contradition they see before their eyes, i.e. my intelligently laid out thoughts, they can't say anything different. Whereas I have no problem perceiving and admitting their varying intelligence, despite it being applied in the wrong direction. I take no offence. They simply do not know better.

Imagine posting this...
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MariaTaylor posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

What sort of discussion should it provoke?

I'm not arguing what kind of discussion it should provoke. I'm saying that I'm interested in observing discussions that have a point, and the discussions here do not have a point. aside from making me realize how ineffectual and impotent some message board nerds are.

Jakyl25 posted...

Not denying that going into Vlado topics to argue with him is intellectual masturbation, but what's the harm? These are safe spaces for that where it's not interfering in a more productive topic. Vlado so gracefully presents himself as a target to make us feel smarter

I did not say it was harmful, I said I was not interested in reading it

similarly if I knew someone was masturbating in the conference room on the third floor every day I would not go in there to watch them do it.

I've had a shitty couple of days but that last line made me laugh.
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MariaTaylor posted...

(this is a great example of the low cunning of board 8 btw, attribute a message to the other person that they DID NOT SAY and then argue against that position)

Is this satire or do you not realize youre doing this in this very post?

He asked questions, and your first response was to act like he was attacking you.

You get defensive in these topics way too easily, dude.
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Vlado posted...

It's quite obvious that I am very intelligent given even just simply the structure and compositions of my thoughts that I share in my posts here

To whom?

Also have you every posted an argument you came up with yourself?
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Answering a question that I was asked is being defensive. Got it. Yeah in that case I am very defensive.
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Jakyl25 posted...

What sort of discussion should it provoke?

MariaTaylor posted...

I'm not arguing what kind of discussion it should provoke.

Jakyl25 posted...

but what's the harm?

MariaTaylor posted...

I did not say it was harmful, I said I was not interested in reading it

MariaTaylor posted...

(this is a great example of the low cunning of board 8 btw, attribute a message to the other person that they DID NOT SAY and then argue against that position)

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I know I'm low tier but the Maria conversation is very confusing.

All I wanted to do was make jokes dammit.

It's all I wanted.
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I'm also very confused at the point Tony is trying to make, to be fair. Jakyl asked me what kind of discussion it should provoke. I said that I was not arguing what kind of discussion it should provoke. Jakyl asked what the harm was. I said that I never claimed it was harmful.

Apparently he thinks this is somehow me attributing things to Jaykl that Jakyl didn't say? I guess I imagined being asked those questions. Even though Tony himself just posted the questions being asked? I honestly have no clue what he's talking about.

Am I supposed to answer what is harmful about Jakyl's behavior even though I do not think it is harmful nor did I ever claim it was harmful? Is that the only way to not be defensive? Can we get some kind of clear rules on the Tony interpretation of what is defensive behavior?
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Jakyl25 posted...

And god, Tucker has that same stupid face in EVERY thumbnail

So that's the comment you had about it... lol liberals

Anyway, HOT OFF THE PRESSES! Part 3 of the NYT exposure work by good men Project Veritas:
https://breaking.projectveritas.com/NYTimes3.html

It's very baffling how people with such teenager-level understanding of politics have somehow landed in positions of power. I expected something more sinister of the people doing part of the brainwashing, and it seems they're just typical brainwashed liberals themselves.
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I have no idea why we're linking to Tucker Carlson when talking about sexual predators. Him and Sean Hannity had nothing but lavish praise for known sexual predator Roger Ailes even after all the lawsuits were made public and he was ousted from Fox News.
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He's literally sitting in Bill O'Reilly's seat on Roger Ailes' network!
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LordoftheMorons posted...

He's literally sitting in Bill O'Reilly's seat on Roger Ailes' network!

And Hannity literally had O'Reilly on his show a couple of weeks ago!
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Vlado posted...

It's very baffling how people with such teenager-level understanding of politics have somehow landed in positions of power

quite!
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TheRock1525 posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

He's literally sitting in Bill O'Reilly's seat on Roger Ailes' network!

And Hannity literally had O'Reilly on his show a couple of weeks ago!

Nothing wrong with that. He's still smart. He just shouldn't be employed by the company anymore and have power over interns or such.

SSJBKK20Vegito posted...

He's still smart.

tidegoesin.gif
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SSJBKK20Vegito posted...

Nothing wrong with that.

Hannity was begging him to come back and O'Reilly never acknowledge any wrongdoing so plenty wrong with that.
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MariaTaylor posted...

Can we get some kind of clear rules on the Tony interpretation of what is defensive behavior?

I think insinuating that Jakyl was attempting to be

"low cunning of board 8 btw, attribute a message to the other person that they DID NOT SAY and then argue against that position".

is clearly defensive

Jakyl was merely saying "Hey, what's the harm?" and you somehow made him out to have ill intentions.
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SSJBKK20Vegito posted...

He's still smart

https://i.redd.it/kyd66x3r3fsz.jpg
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Jakyl was merely saying "Hey, what's the harm?" and you somehow made him out to have ill intentions.

okay if I squint really hard I can see what you're getting at here. the problem is.

1: you initially said "Is this satire or do you not realize youre doing this in this very post?" which still makes absolutely no sense and doesn't relate to what I said at all. I responded to Jakyl's exact words by answering his questions and including those exact words in my replies. it's apparent that I was not attributing anything that he did not say. so I'm just going to assume this entire original criticism is irrelevant and just respond to what you're actually saying is the problem now, which is apparently me being defensive... which once again I did not accuse anyone of doing so I have no idea how me being defensive = me doing exactly what I was accusing others of doing. but whatever. I really need to get off this point. it's so mind-numbingly wrong that it hurts to think about it.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

is clearly defensive

this assertion is so unfounded that I almost feel it's not worth replying to. we're reading posts on a message board here, it's not like you could possibly have any idea what my tone or intentions are while posting. there is absolutely no way you could possibly say that I am being "clearly defensive" because there's not even any clear way to observe my behavior. you have a PERCEPTION that I am being defensive which, based on your above comments, seems to be largely based on your PERCEPTION that I am "always" defensive in these topics (I've posted in like 4 political topics this year by the way, lol) and you use every single encounter as a means to bolster the already established view you have in your mind.

anyway, to claim that I am somehow being defensive in that exchange above requires a ton of assumptions and basically has absolutely no merit or any real value to the conversation. it just seems you wanted a chance to say it out loud and get it on record so that next time you call me defensive you can remember all the previous times you called me defensive and use those as "proof" that I am "always" defensive in these topics.

a. you have to assume that I said anything that I said above with the intention of actually insulting or attacking Jakyl
b. you have to assume that I somehow felt like I was personally attacked by something that Jakyl said
c. you have to assume that I felt the best way to respond to being attacked was to defend myself by attacking in return

none of these are things you could possibly know
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SSJBKK20Vegito posted...

Nothing wrong with that. He's still smart.

Right, like SephG
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MariaTaylor posted...

tl;dr

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pretending that you are too stupid to read three paragraphs of text is not a good look.

just admit that you were wrong, admit you said something stupid that didn't make any sense, and move on. it would be so much better than this weird childish dance of trying to prove something that is clearly not the case.

(kidding by the way, I know that admitting you were wrong would literally kill you and I certainly don't wish for that)
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FWIW I don't feel attacked
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MariaTaylor posted...

pretending that you are too stupid to read three paragraphs of text is not a good look.

just admit that you were wrong, admit you said something stupid that didn't make any sense, and move on. it would be so much better than this weird childish dance of trying to prove something that is clearly not the case.

(kidding by the way, I know that admitting you were wrong would literally kill you and I certainly don't wish for that)

I mean if your post directly after your response to Jakyl was not directed at him, then I was wrong.

It's really not complicated, but you always have to post 15 sentences to say something that can be conveyed in one, and I'm not bothering with all that mess.
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https://twitter.com/pcsegal/status/920358891405312000

I shared this in the Politics topic but really it fits better here

The Vlados of the world are so weird
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/pcsegal/status/920358891405312000

I shared this in the Politics topic but really it fits better here

The Vlados of the world are so weird

This stuff is super normal, standard confirmation bias, propagandization of symbols and such.

The absolutely insane and mindblowing part though, is how instantly the supremacists completely delete every single trace of this entire interaction from their memory and move on to the next thing like nothing happened. It's not that they are pretending they weren't called out on false bullshit, it's that they truly, deep in their subconscious, never actually experienced the contradiction. It's a completely involuntary mental reflex, installed in them by basic political marketing campaigns... really scary, but impressive anyways.
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why argue with maria when you have a perfectly good vlado right there
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oh hey bob weinstein

http://deadline.com/2017/10/bob-weinstein-sexual-harassment-accusation-the-mist-producer-amanda-segel-1202190054/

Variety also reported that Segels lawyer David Fox of Myman Greenspan informed TWC COO David Glasser of the harassment. A company rep today denied Glasser was contacted by Fox. It also said a deal was reached that Segel would continue her work on the show but arrangements were made that she was never to be in the same room as Weinstein or on telephone calls with him, an agreement that was honored by Weinstein. It was also agreed that TWC would let Segel out of its option to keep her on the show if it was picked up for a second season.

Yeah, you guys were definitely not contacted and there was definitely no harassment... but a deal was made for no reason that Segel would never have to interact specifically with Bob Weinstein.

Seems legit.
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/pcsegal/status/920358891405312000

I shared this in the Politics topic but really it fits better here

The Vlados of the world are so weird

I don't get your point? I definitely do research before claiming something as fact, so why is that guy, who clearly doesn't, a "Vlado of the world"?

CoolCly posted...

oh hey bob weinstein

http://deadline.com/2017/10/bob-weinstein-sexual-harassment-accusation-the-mist-producer-amanda-segel-1202190054/

Variety also reported that Segels lawyer David Fox of Myman Greenspan informed TWC COO David Glasser of the harassment. A company rep today denied Glasser was contacted by Fox. It also said a deal was reached that Segel would continue her work on the show but arrangements were made that she was never to be in the same room as Weinstein or on telephone calls with him, an agreement that was honored by Weinstein. It was also agreed that TWC would let Segel out of its option to keep her on the show if it was picked up for a second season.

Yeah, you guys were definitely not contacted and there was definitely no harassment... but a deal was made for no reason that Segel would never have to interact specifically with Bob Weinstein.

Seems legit.

Yup.
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Another reminder about the people we are fighting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVGaEU7mY1Y
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Vlado posted...

I don't get your point? I definitely do research before claiming something as fact, so why is that guy, who clearly doesn't, a "Vlado of the world"?

Because he wants to believe he's in a noble fight to save western civilization
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CoolCly posted...

why argue with maria when you have a perfectly good vlado right there

"Perfectly good vlado"

I will never be able to read that phrase without at least a grin and a chuckle.
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Vlado posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/pcsegal/status/920358891405312000

I shared this in the Politics topic but really it fits better here

The Vlados of the world are so weird

I don't get your point? I definitely do research before claiming something as fact, so why is that guy, who clearly doesn't, a "Vlado of the world"?

CoolCly posted...

oh hey bob weinstein

http://deadline.com/2017/10/bob-weinstein-sexual-harassment-accusation-the-mist-producer-amanda-segel-1202190054/

Variety also reported that Segel?s lawyer David Fox of Myman Greenspan informed TWC COO David Glasser of the harassment. A company rep today denied Glasser was contacted by Fox. It also said a deal was reached ?that Segel would continue her work on the show but arrangements were made that she was never to be in the same room as Weinstein or on telephone calls with him, an agreement that was honored by Weinstein. It was also agreed that TWC would let Segel out of its option to keep her on the show if it was picked up for a second season.?

Yeah, you guys were definitely not contacted and there was definitely no harassment... but a deal was made for no reason that Segel would never have to interact specifically with Bob Weinstein.

Seems legit.

Yup.

Do you research on any non-infowars outlets/sources?
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https://www.rt.com/usa/407120-fbi-found-3k-docs-weiner/

More and more evidence of criminal activity by people around Clinton.
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Vlado posted...

weiner

;)
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