Poll of the Day > US House Reps move to create Impeachment articles against Trump...

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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/5-house-dems-introduce-impeachment-articles-against-trump-144901738--politics.html

Breaking...

It won't go anywhere. Don't get me wrong, I understand our President is an idiot and a liar, but I don't think there's enough evidence yet to say for sure that he's done something worth impeachment. Besides, Pence would be worse. Trump is just crazy and stupid. Pence is crazy and evil.

But whatabout Hillary?

You mean again? How many times have they tried to do this? And it's never even as many Dems as you had Republicans repeatedly trying to repeal the ACA.
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You can't get impeached for doing dumb things and saying dumb things and being dumb in general... he's good for the shareholders and will go the distance
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Zeus posted...

Republicans repeatedly trying to repeal the ACA.

The entire Republican party has been trying to do that for years and they are still really really bad at it.

knivesX2004 posted...

Zeus posted...

Republicans repeatedly trying to repeal the ACA.

The entire Republican party has been trying to do that for years and they are still really really bad at it.

Not to mention they had all that time to create a better alternative and utterly failed once they had the Presidency and Congress.

He can't get impeached without the gop helping. It's more symbolic for 2018 than anything.

knivesX2004 posted...

Zeus posted...

Republicans repeatedly trying to repeal the ACA.

The entire Republican party has been trying to do that for years and they are still really really bad at it.

No, they repeatedly could get the votes when they knew the president wasn't on board. The problem is that there's no consensus among Republicans in general over what happens either. Half the base wants nothing in response, others -- especially republicans in moderate states -- want to replace it with a new program. That's the problem with giving an entitlement, it's damn near impossible to get rid of it afterward.

DistantMemory posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

Zeus posted...

Republicans repeatedly trying to repeal the ACA.

The entire Republican party has been trying to do that for years and they are still really really bad at it.

Not to mention they had all that time to create a better alternative and utterly failed once they had the Presidency and Congress.

False dilemma. It's not a matter of "keep it or do something better" since removal -- the thing most Republicans actually want -- would also be on the table. However, moderate Republicans -- including Trump -- want to replace it with something, whereas hardliners and libertarians just want it gone.
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DistantMemory posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

Zeus posted...

Republicans repeatedly trying to repeal the ACA.

The entire Republican party has been trying to do that for years and they are still really really bad at it.

Not to mention they had all that time to create a better alternative and utterly failed once they had the Presidency and Congress.

Cuz their used to most their party voters bein unemployed retirees w zero college education. The Repub votes all based on Zeuses trustin the rich guy with trickle down bs.
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SushiSquid posted...

It won't go anywhere. Don't get me wrong, I understand our President is an idiot and a liar, but I don't think there's enough evidence yet to say for sure that he's done something worth impeachment. Besides, Pence would be worse. Trump is just crazy and stupid. Pence is crazy and evil.

o.0 his mental disabilities are reason.

BlackScythe0 posted...


Accusing somebody of having mental disabilities as an insult is in pretty poor taste and out of character for somebody who tries to portray himself as a "tolerant" and "accepting" person. I'm as anti-PC as you get and even I don't pull shit like that.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

The Repub votes all based on Zeuses trustin the rich guy with trickle down bs.

And the Democrats vote based on who will give them the most welfare.
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Given that fr is a troll alt, the most effective response is none at all.
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Zeus posted...

Given that fr is a troll alt, the most effective response is none at all.

Sure, it's an ultimately pointless virtue-signal which gets them a ton of press and panders to a key demographic, thus making the real value PR/marketing.
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Zeus posted...

BlackScythe0 posted...

Accusing somebody of having mental disabilities as an insult is in pretty poor taste and out of character for somebody who tries to portray himself as a "tolerant" and "accepting" person. I'm as anti-PC as you get and even I don't pull shit like that.

Are you going to try and say he doesn't have dementia or some other form of diminished capacity?

after they let Bill -the rapist- Clinton off for lying under oath and molesting a bunch of female staffers, the dems ensured that we will pretty much never see a president impeached for anything less than murdering someone on live television.
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SushiSquid posted...

It won't go anywhere. Don't get me wrong, I understand our President is an idiot and a liar, but I don't think there's enough evidence yet to say for sure that he's done something worth impeachment. Besides, Pence would be worse. Trump is just crazy and stupid. Pence is crazy and evil.

I feel there's a case for negligence/incompetence over the NK situation-is there a rule or precedent to impeach on that sort of basis?
True, Pence is just as bad in different direction but at least he's predictable.
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Zeus posted...

Zeus posted...

Given that fr is a troll alt, the most effective response is none at all.

Sure, it's an ultimately pointless virtue-signal which gets them a ton of press and panders to a key demographic, thus making the real value PR/marketing.

Zeus, did you just respond to yourself?

Syntheticon posted...

I feel there's a case for negligence/incompetence over the NK situation-is there a rule or precedent to impeach on that sort of basis?

Imagine being this desperate to have a new president.
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Liberal tears are delicious.
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Political theater until it's evenly bipartisan.

Please and thank you. He's not a funny joke anymore. He gets by on so much shit that there's nothing clever about making fun of him.
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shadowsword87 posted...

Zeus posted...

Zeus posted...

Given that fr is a troll alt, the most effective response is none at all.

Sure, it's an ultimately pointless virtue-signal which gets them a ton of press and panders to a key demographic, thus making the real value PR/marketing.

Zeus, did you just respond to yourself?

Poor guys all turned around.
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Zeus posted...

That's the problem with giving an entitlement, it's damn near impossible to get rid of it afterward.

I still find it hilarious that Americans consider healthcare "an entitlement".
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darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

That's the problem with giving an entitlement, it's damn near impossible to get rid of it afterward.

I still find it hilarious that Americans consider healthcare "an entitlement".

They're so entitled to not want to have to choose between dying from preventable causes or a life of medical debt they can never hope to repay. So gosh darn entitled to want to live. Can you imagine wanting that after their tax dollars already pay more for health care per capita than any single payer system on the planet. Those entitled people can't have any of the pie
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darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

That's the problem with giving an entitlement, it's damn near impossible to get rid of it afterward.

I still find it hilarious that Americans consider healthcare "an entitlement".

There are people like Zeus who won't be happy unless they see people dying in the gutters on a daily basis.

Zues is so triggered right now.
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Rasmoh posted...

FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

The Repub votes all based on Zeuses trustin the rich guy with trickle down bs.

And the Democrats vote based on who will give them the most welfare.

The fact that liberals think they're trusting rich people any less than republicans are is pretty hilarious. Just lining different pockets. Democratic party just seeking to gut the private sector wherever they can.

Liberals just keep building themselves up to let themselves down though. Every week it's more crying with no results... impeachment, Russia, blah blah (even though it was proven Hillary paid to get that Russian dossier on trump). We'll be hearing about impeachment all the way to the door.

OhhhJa posted...

Rasmoh posted...

FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

The Repub votes all based on Zeuses trustin the rich guy with trickle down bs.

And the Democrats vote based on who will give them the most welfare.

The fact that liberals think they're trusting rich people any less than republicans are is pretty hilarious. Just lining different pockets. Democratic party just seeking to gut the private sector wherever they can.

Liberals just keep building themselves up to let themselves down though. Every week it's more crying with no results... impeachment, Russia, blah blah (even though it was proven Hillary paid to get that Russian dossier on trump). We'll be hearing about impeachment all the way to the door.

If Obama had done even a single one of the things people get on Trump for doing they would be calling for his head, but this is the new normal, can't expect the president to not act like a child.

darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

That's the problem with giving an entitlement, it's damn near impossible to get rid of it afterward.

I still find it hilarious that Americans consider healthcare "an entitlement".

you dont have a fucking right to it. doctors are not your slaves. they have a right to charge as much as they like for their services just like any other profession.
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Troll_Police_ posted...

darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

That's the problem with giving an entitlement, it's damn near impossible to get rid of it afterward.

I still find it hilarious that Americans consider healthcare "an entitlement".

you dont have a fucking right to it. doctors are not your slaves. they have a right to charge as much as they like for their services just like any other profession.

So not letting people die due to lack of coverage would be slavery?

Andromicus posted...

Troll_Police_ posted...

darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

That's the problem with giving an entitlement, it's damn near impossible to get rid of it afterward.

I still find it hilarious that Americans consider healthcare "an entitlement".

you dont have a fucking right to it. doctors are not your slaves. they have a right to charge as much as they like for their services just like any other profession.

So not letting people die due to lack of coverage would be slavery?

lol, not even the discussion.

you got a job buddy? i doubt it, but if you do lets say the government steps in and tells your employer they are no longer allowed to pay you more than $5 an hour.

totally fair right? for someone other than yourself to determine how much you are allowed to charge for your services?
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I love how schmen pretends he pays for all the healthcare cost for him and his family at full price without any help. Get the fuck out of here.
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darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

That's the problem with giving an entitlement, it's damn near impossible to get rid of it afterward.

I still find it hilarious that Americans consider healthcare "an entitlement".

I find it hilarious that Americans think anything that isnt a service you pay for must be indentured slavery
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Troll_Police_ posted...

Andromicus posted...

Troll_Police_ posted...

darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

That's the problem with giving an entitlement, it's damn near impossible to get rid of it afterward.

I still find it hilarious that Americans consider healthcare "an entitlement".

you dont have a fucking right to it. doctors are not your slaves. they have a right to charge as much as they like for their services just like any other profession.

So not letting people die due to lack of coverage would be slavery?

lol, not even the discussion.

you got a job buddy? i doubt it, but if you do lets say the government steps in and tells your employer they are no longer allowed to pay you more than $5 an hour.

totally fair right? for someone other than yourself to determine how much you are allowed to charge for your services?

Funny because I work at a hospital and that's not how it is at all

JunkoEnoshima posted...

darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

That's the problem with giving an entitlement, it's damn near impossible to get rid of it afterward.

I still find it hilarious that Americans consider healthcare "an entitlement".

I find it hilarious that Americans think anything that isnt a service you pay for must be indentured slavery

we think that telling someone how much they are allowed to make is tantamount to slavery

once again, i doubt kana has a job, but if you did, would you be OK with me telling you how much you are allowed to make?
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I do have a job but Im pretty sure youd be content to see me starve so, kind of a loaded question there innit
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JunkoEnoshima posted...

I do have a job but Im pretty sure youd be content to see me starve so, kind of a loaded question there innit

so what youre saying is that it would be unfair for someone who doesnt have your interests in mind decide how much you are allowed to make?

odd
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thats already the case though my dude. capitalism doesnt have anyones interests in mind. no, not yours, either, unless youre part of the top 8, which youre not.
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JunkoEnoshima posted...

thats already the case though my dude. capitalism doesnt have anyones interests in mind. no, not yours, either, unless youre part of the top 8, which youre not.

uh no, you can always quit your job to seek out more money, or start up your own business like i did and actually benefit from the system instead of wasting your entire life playing the victim.
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JunkoEnoshima posted...

thats already the case though my dude. capitalism doesnt have anyones interests in mind.

That's the idea. I don't expect anyone other than myself and my friends and family to have my interests in mind. Capitalism is about opportunity and not being forced into anything.

Im not talking about individuals dude but whatever I shouldnt be engaging with you anyway
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OhhhJa posted...

JunkoEnoshima posted...

thats already the case though my dude. capitalism doesnt have anyones interests in mind.

That's the idea. I don't expect anyone other than myself and my friends and family to have my interests in mind. Capitalism is about opportunity and not being forced into anything.

yeah, but that logic doesnt apply to professional victims because they are too busy complaining to improve their situation and see the opportunities available to them.
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OhhhJa posted...

JunkoEnoshima posted...

thats already the case though my dude. capitalism doesnt have anyones interests in mind.

That's the idea. I don't expect anyone other than myself and my friends and family to have my interests in mind. Capitalism is about opportunity and not being forced into anything.

Which would be fine if everyone had the same opportunity, but thats not the case
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JunkoEnoshima posted...

OhhhJa posted...

JunkoEnoshima posted...

thats already the case though my dude. capitalism doesnt have anyones interests in mind.

That's the idea. I don't expect anyone other than myself and my friends and family to have my interests in mind. Capitalism is about opportunity and not being forced into anything.

Which would be fine if everyone had the same opportunity, but thats not the case

Everyone is equal, just some are more equal than others

JunkoEnoshima posted...

OhhhJa posted...

JunkoEnoshima posted...

thats already the case though my dude. capitalism doesnt have anyones interests in mind.

That's the idea. I don't expect anyone other than myself and my friends and family to have my interests in mind. Capitalism is about opportunity and not being forced into anything.

Which would be fine if everyone had the same opportunity, but thats not the case

yeah, but that logic doesnt apply to professional victims because they are too busy complaining to improve their situation and see the opportunities available to them.

thanks kana. you nailed it.
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Its funny that you assume Im talking about myself when relatively I am pretty privileged. Im not disabled, Im white-passing, Im not rich but not poor either, grew up in a decent neighborhood. All those things can be much worse off and its extremely difficult to pull out of it, sometimes even impossible if its something like a disability that cant be fixed. Wheres your compassion, man?
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JunkoEnoshima posted...

OhhhJa posted...

JunkoEnoshima posted...

thats already the case though my dude. capitalism doesnt have anyones interests in mind.

That's the idea. I don't expect anyone other than myself and my friends and family to have my interests in mind. Capitalism is about opportunity and not being forced into anything.

Which would be fine if everyone had the same opportunity, but thats not the case

There will always be someone who has it much tougher than you and there will always be someone who has it much easier. Sacrificing personal liberty and opportunity to attempt to make everyone perfectly equal is regressive and also futile. There are plenty who succeed after being dealt a shitty hand. And there are silver spoon kiddies who squander their dad's dealership earnings. Also, the difficult path is more rewarding than being handed everything on a silver platter don't you think?

JunkoEnoshima posted...

Its funny that you assume Im talking about myself when relatively I am pretty privileged. Im not disabled, Im white-passing, Im not rich but not poor either, grew up in a decent neighborhood. All those things can be much worse off and its extremely difficult to pull out of it, sometimes even impossible if its something like a disability that cant be fixed. Wheres your compassion, man?

my compassion is with the people who deserve it. my duty is to my family and friends, not complete strangers with victim complexes. i dont HAVE to care about them, and forced charity isnt really charity.

you see kana, i grew up in a lower class family in a shitty neighborhood. my wife and i both have permanent disabilities.

i worked my ass off to pull myself out of it to the upper middle class, and believe it or not, others can do the same.
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