Board 8 > Survivor: Ghost Island Discussion Topic 1 - Erik R. Is Spinning In His Grave

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Okay. Having read your bitching and moaning. I can feel comfortable about saying between this and losing Nat ten in a save my game that you're just a big freaking baby. Shit happens in Survivor and based on the tribe setup they weren't going to flip on Wendell really leaving Morgan the major choice considering believe if or not players can be both self interested and passive on Survivor as well. A Survivor superfan would know this. Frankly, I don't know how much of a superfan you actually are because the superfans I know would not give up on a season because of one player or on the 3rd freaking episode. That's straight up a childish take my ball and go home reaction. I've seen my boy scouts react more maturely.

Production interference swap? Brother I don't know if you realize this but if there was no production then there would be survivor and a swap is freaking standard in survivor now. You sound like someone upset that Silas went home from the first freaking swap.

On top of that, James does not feel like a sexist I am not getting that read at all. You're just drawing at straws because you're upset.

Andy, I have no sympathy for you and I like your articles but this is absolutely blowing my mind this reaction.
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3 > 2 > 1

Episode ranking.

Enjoying this season a bunch. I liked Morgan but shit happens.
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And I was a little rough just now and I am sorry but you needed some tough love because the soft point was clearly not getting it across for you.
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Seriously, I like you a lot but this is just so over the top.
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I'm actually kind of glad the save my survivor got paused thanks to him. Freed up my time lol. Don't start it up again anytime soon darkx. Thanks!
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Okay. Having read your bitching and moaning. I can feel comfortable about saying between this and losing Nat ten in a save my game that you're just a big freaking baby. Shit happens in Survivor and based on the tribe setup they weren't going to flip on Wendell really leaving Morgan the major choice considering believe if or not players can be both self interested and passive on Survivor as well. A Survivor superfan would know this. Frankly, I don't know how much of a superfan you actually are because the superfans I know would not give up on a season because of one player or on the 3rd freaking episode. That's straight up a childish take my ball and go home reaction. I've seen my boy scouts react more maturely.

Production interference swap? Brother I don't know if you realize this but if there was no production then there would be survivor and a swap is freaking standard in survivor now. You sound like someone upset that Silas went home from the first freaking swap.

On top of that, James does not feel like a sexist I am not getting that read at all. You're just drawing at straws because you're upset.

Andy, I have no sympathy for you and I like your articles but this is absolutely blowing my mind this reaction.

Preach.

Andys emotional reactions are completely fair up to a point. Sadly he goes beyond that point all too often and doesnt ever seem to realize when that moment is occurring.

Yeah, you lost a favorite. It happens to everyone. My favorite last season was Chrissy and she was robbed of a million dollars. I mean yeah I made a 15 minute video ranting about it but hey you gotta deal with it appropriately.
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oh no the baby crying has already gotten eaed into irritable mode D:
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eaed what did you name your baby

my friend who recently had a kid took my wifes favorite girls name by coincidence (Amelia)
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oh nvm I see the topic

her name is pretty similar!
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Chris crying alone on Ghost Island was pretty pathetic. I don't believe that sob story about his mum at all. More likely, he was freaking out over losing his semblance of control in the game and was worried about losing an important ally.
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His mom does have issues he talked about them on First One Out but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a combination.
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Peridiam posted...

oh nvm I see the topic

her name is pretty similar!

Weird coincidence!
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I dont mind Chris. Hes on an island of one. Give em a show.
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GTM posted...

oh no the baby crying has already gotten eaed into irritable mode D:

She has been perfect. So it may just be an exhaustion of emotions but it was really the roughest way of saying get over it and you're better than that.
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what a great episode

i'm loving every minute of this season

Would have big time preferred a Dom blindside over Morgan but oh wells, Naviti played that soooo poorly

"hey you group of 4 that is at a numbers disadvantage, our 5 are actually really messed up and are gonna vote eachother will you please vote with us?????something something fake idol????"

Absolutely loved Angela looking around during the tally with a genuine "what the fuck is going on?" expression.
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I actually liked the episode, for what it's worth.

And that being said...is there a Discord or something?

This season is reminding me a bit of Cagayan in terms of these apparent decoy boots actually being the real ones and the "obvious" boots being the decoys.

Also @Inviso I haven't watched Minds since like November I need to catch up.
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Watched the episode this morning. It was definitely better than the premier, but Im still not feeling the cast. Havent really found anyone particularly rootable yet and I feel like there are too many people I know actual nothing about.
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Weirdly there are people like Brendan and Laurel that ARE getting screen time that I really don't know much about yet.
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Underleveled posted...

This season is reminding me a bit of Cagayan in terms of these apparent decoy boots actually being the real ones and the "obvious" boots being the decoys.

Also @Inviso I haven't watched Minds since like November I need to catch up.

Morgan wasnt really even a decoy!
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At first I thought Chris was going to be this one-note douchebag but now I'm thinking he actually has a chance at being one of the most complex attractive young guys we've had in years.
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ive been busy and only seen the first 5 minutes of big brother canada, but holy fuck do I like the atmosphere that BBCAN brings to a season. I've only seen 4 but the set and house design is always top notch in BBCAN.
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Boy, I still cannot stand Ciera. The constant yell to make big moves. It's not that no one wants to make big moves. No one wants to play with you!
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caught up on bbcan6

flips table
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Okay well for the first time in a very long time I'm ignoring a Survivor topic person. Thankfully they don't post on here TOO much anymore but I suppose I could occasionally miss something.

(ignoring them for something totally unrelated to Survivor topic stuff)
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my opinions on bbcan6 are totally valid, darkx!

:p
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this is like a bad version of the coconut chop challenge
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omg paras is amazing
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i like paras as well

that HoH comp was HARSH
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Congrats on who im pretty sure is andy getting his take of "after 3 episodes in so done with this season" on the b&b and rob recognising it as said by only 1 guy who was spamming it during the knowitalls chat

1:04 to 1:06 on the rhap b&b podcast
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That's amazing lol
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I went and listened to it, and the guy who sent in the take was Andy. Btw, his take 0 points for being absolutely cold because no one agrees. So wherever Andy has gone he's attempting to start a revolution against Ghost Island and clearly no one is listening lol
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I like how they think it has to do with gambling that Andy would think this.
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Alright I found it and listened.... Oh man they really ripped Andy a new one.
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lol gambling. don't bet on Survivor kids.
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You know, Andy criticizes people for not liking Micronesia or Cambodia for not being invested in the characters, and he is boycotting a season after three episodes for the same thing. Hell even if it wasn't the same thing I think it'd be fair to say that he no longer has the right to criticize anyone for their opinions on particular seasons.
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Since when has having no right to criticise stopped people from criticising?
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I think there is a lot of refusing to see the other side of the table there. Like I understand why you guys don't care for Cambodia I absolutely disagree because even compared to Micronesia I feel like I get a hell of a lot more ibto an individual player's back story and enough of a back story to feel comfortable with it. Hell, it is firmly in my top 5 after I finished my rewatch today.

With Ghost Island I think Andy just had a really bad case of crybaby-itis and made too big of scene to comeback. I can't else figure out a reason why he still cares to enter a hot take on the Survivor BB. A podcast not even on the Main RHAP network.

On the topic of season rankings: Dalton Ross is doing the survivor ranking here. I thought I would share with you guys. I haven't filled mine out yet but I am more than willing to share when I finish.
http://ew.com/tv/2018/03/13/survivor-seasons-ranked-best-worst/
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Alright so this is what I ended with after submitting that form the only one I metta'd with is Vanuatu because I know not everyone else loved it. In the end, I only swapped it 2 spots moving it from 5 to 3 and Cagayan and Cambodia down 1 each.

So here is my final list as submitted to ET:
1. Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains (Season 20)
2. Survivor: Pearl Islands (Season 7)
3. Survivor: Vanuatu (Season 9) (real 5)
4. Survivor: Cagayan (Season 28) (real 3)
5. Survivor: CambodiaSecond Chance (Season 31) (real 4)
6. Survivor: Philippines (Season 25)
7. Survivor: China (Season 15)
8. Survivor: Africa (Season 3)
9. Survivor: Borneo (Season 1)
10. Survivor: Palau (Season 10)
11. Survivor: The Australian Outback (Season 2)
12. Survivor: Tocantins (Season 18)
13. Survivor: The Amazon (Season 6)
14. Survivor: Marquesas (Season 4)
15. Survivor: Kaoh Rong (Season 32)
16. Survivor: San Juan del Sur (Season 29)
17. Survivor: Gabon (Season 17)
18. Survivor: Blood vs. Water (Season 27)
19. Survivor: Worlds Apart (Season 30)
20. Survivor: Game Changers (Season 34)
21. Survivor: Fiji (Season 14)
22. Survivor: Guatemala (Season 11)
23. Survivor: Cook Islands (Season 13)
24. Survivor: PanamaExile Island (Season 12)
25. Survivor: MicronesiaFans vs. Favorites (Season 16)
26. Survivor: Caramoan (Season 26)
27. Survivor: Heroes v. Healers v. Hustlers (Season 35)
28. Survivor: South Pacific (Season 23)
29. Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X (Season 33)
30. Survivor: All-Stars (Season 8)
31. Survivor: One World (Season 24)
32. Survivor: Thailand (Season 5)
33. Survivor: Samoa (Season 19)
34. Survivor: Nicaragua (Season 21)
35. Survivor: Redemption Island (Season 22)

Some of the notes I thought here is I am concerned about the nostalgia factor laying a strong focus on my list or were those seasons really better? Also, Survivor is such a strong show that like 29 and up I enjoy enough to watch again and then like 25 and up I have like a super fond memory of. But even 30-36 aren't super horrible they just aren't my favorite. It really shows that bad survivor season is better than most other shows. I think the funnest part of this exercise was comparing it with my thoughts from 2014 of my original watch through as compared to where I am close to completing my rewatch.

I'm sure several people will disagree with my list here but I also know a lot of us value different things in a Survivor season which is good for a community.
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gabon way too low

james getting underdog edit
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I went for an "anti-donkey-vote" ballot. All seasons except The Amazon (top) and the three garbage seasons (bottom) are in reverse airing order, to counteract the people who just submit the default ballot.
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That feels like a lot of work lol
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eaedwards6400 posted...

That feels like a lot of work lol

It certainly is, but it's worth it.
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I went ahead and submitted. Didn't meta, but some of these are probably heavily outdated.

1. Survivor: Pearl Islands (Season 7)
2. Survivor: China (Season 15)
3. Survivor: Cagayan (Season 28)
4. Survivor: Philippines (Season 25)
5. Survivor: Panama - Exile Island (Season 12)
6. Survivor: Tocantins (Season 18)
7. Survivor: The Amazon (Season 6)
8. Survivor: Vanuatu (Season 9)
9. Survivor: Guatemala (Season 11)
10. Survivor: Marquesas (Season 4)
11. Survivor: Kaoh-Rong (Season 32)
12. Survivor: Gabon (Season 17)
13. Survivor: Borneo (Season 1)
14. Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains (Season 20)
15. Survivor: Nicaragua (Season 21)
16. Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X (Season 33)
17. Survivor: Blood vs. Water (Season 27)
18. Survivor: Samoa (Season 19)
19. Survivor: Game Changers (Season 34)
20. Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers (Season 35)
21. Survivor: All-Stars (Season 8)
22. Survivor: Africa (Season 3)
23. Survivor: The Australian Outback (Season 2)
24. Survivor: San Juan del Sur (Season 29)
25. Survivor: Micronesia - Fans vs. Favorites (Season 16)
26. Survivor: Fiji (Season 14)
27. Survivor: Cambodia - Second Chance (Season 31)
28. Survivor: Cook Islands (Season 13)
29. Survivor: Palau (Season 10)
30. Survivor: Worlds Apart (Season 30)
31. Survivor: Thailand (Season 5)
32. Survivor: Caramoan (Season 26)
33. Survivor: Redemption Island (Season 22)
34. Survivor: One World (Season 24)
35. Survivor: South Pacific (Season 23)
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south pacific isnt great but is way underrated

like 28th best season AT WORST
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I really like Kellyn
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Wow, it seems Malcolm's choking in challenges has passed on to the Malcolm of this season.
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Nobody from Malolo has gotten any meaningful screen time except Kellyn so far, so I have no idea what's about to happen.
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Please dont be kellyn
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I could have sworn purple tribe was throwing that, they were doing so bad.
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