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foolm0r0n
03/09/18 3:35:13 PM
#251:


The secret to why they haven't brought it back is because all the pokeballs have been garbage after 64 as well
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paperwarior
03/09/18 4:13:29 PM
#252:


I'm still mad that they made stage creation touch-only in 4. It was pretty much unusable for me.
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EmoCombeeDancin
03/09/18 4:36:55 PM
#253:


I personally am hoping for MORE clones in the new smash brothers

Like a skin and voice change for some characters would be great. For instance having Ness have Paula as an alternate costume is literally 0 work (ness's moveset makes more sense on paula anyway)

They did it for characters with multiple genders and also Olimar, why not do it for more?

diddy>trixie
ness>paula
Sonic>Shadow
Peach>Daisy
Cloud>Cloud in a dress
Fox>Wolf
Metanight>Bandana Waddle Dee

etc
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LeonhartFour
03/09/18 4:37:48 PM
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03/09/18 4:38:13 PM
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EmoCombeeDancin
03/09/18 4:38:42 PM
#256:


oh yeah and pac-man>mrs. pac-man is another obvious one, but I'm imagining that there's a distinct legal reason that never happened in the first one.
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KCF0107
03/09/18 4:39:29 PM
#257:


A fusion of Tiny and Dixie Kong
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EmoCombeeDancin
03/09/18 4:40:14 PM
#258:


LeonhartFour posted...
who is Trixie


sorry I only play Vietnamese romhacks of donkey kong

Dixie
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Zigzagoon
03/09/18 4:43:30 PM
#259:


Also Meta Knight - Waddle Dee are nothing alike and would not work as a costume swap.
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gmun-kun
03/09/18 4:48:28 PM
#260:


can I get Kandy Kong as DK somehow
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gmun-kun
03/09/18 4:49:01 PM
#261:


candy even

i blame kommunistkoala
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Zigzagoon
03/09/18 4:50:57 PM
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Solioxrz362
03/09/18 5:01:54 PM
#263:


EmoCombeeDancin posted...
I personally am hoping for MORE clones in the new smash brothers

Like a skin and voice change for some characters would be great. For instance having Ness have Paula as an alternate costume is literally 0 work (ness's moveset makes more sense on paula anyway)

They did it for characters with multiple genders and also Olimar, why not do it for more?

diddy>trixie
ness>paula
Sonic>Shadow
Peach>Daisy
Cloud>Cloud in a dress
Fox>Wolf
Metanight>Bandana Waddle Dee

etc

Clones don't necessarily equal alternate costumes.

If we're talking about Olimar and Alph, those are alternate costumes. Press L or R when you choose the character and you can choose Olimar or Alph. They take up the same slot on a character select screen.

Mario and Dr. Mario would be clones. They are selected separately. They're very similar in their movesets, but they have differences that heavily shape their strengths and weaknesses. Semi-clones, like Ganon and Captain Falcon, are different enough to be fine. Straight clones like Lucina and Dark Pit, I have a bit more of an issue with those because it's just extra roster slots. Those characters could probably just be alternate skins who have literally 0 differences in their movesets.

So personally, give me all the alternate costumes you want. I'm down for that. But having clones with minute differences between certain moves is something I'm not a huge fan of.
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KamikazePotato
03/09/18 5:03:07 PM
#264:


Solioxrz362 posted...
Straight clones like Lucina and Dark Pit, I have a bit more of an issue with those because it's just extra roster slots.

Slots don't exist. All you would be doing is removing them from the character select screen and changing nothing else.
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gmun-kun
03/09/18 5:12:56 PM
#265:


alt costume wise there's no reason not to use Link's unique outfits or Samus's armour

... but BotW Link being confirmed means Link finally has a legit alt now at least, since there's noooooo waaaay Link doesn't have a green tunic option as well

Fierce Diety still needs to be more accurate though, not just a recolour of the tunic

but man Samus

shitty recolours of Brawl/4:
ztr46RA

what we SHOULD get:
9B9kra1
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heroicmario
03/09/18 5:18:30 PM
#266:


I am 100% behind giving actual alternate costumes to everyone, instead of just recolors. I think thats as much a missed opportunity as ignoring that all of these characters have moved beyond the GameCube era, in terms of movesets.
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Paratroopa1
03/09/18 5:26:55 PM
#267:


I predict that BotW Link will be a separate character
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gmun-kun
03/09/18 5:32:52 PM
#268:


I'll take a designated Link per colour

BotW Default
MxkTWQo

Skyward Sword Prequel Manga Green (okay fine OoT but it I'm posting this)
purde8v

TP Blue
GA1NaP0

LttP Red
CeTagGW

MM White
Yy113R1

Hyrule Warriors Black
3eK00Lw
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Solioxrz362
03/09/18 5:33:57 PM
#269:


KamikazePotato posted...
Solioxrz362 posted...
Straight clones like Lucina and Dark Pit, I have a bit more of an issue with those because it's just extra roster slots.

Slots don't exist. All you would be doing is removing them from the character select screen and changing nothing else.

And as I have already told you, I understand this concept.

I, personally, do not like adding more characters just because you can or just because they have the budget for it when those characters aren't really going to add anything meaningful to the game. If another character already does all the same stuff, no need to have them be a separate character. It is my personal preference. Except when I mean extra separate characters, I just happen to use the word "slots" because when you look at a character select screen, the characters each have their own slot. It's not to imply that the game MUST HAVE a certain amount of characters.

So please stop nitpicking at dumb stuff like that, I'm sure you understand what I meant and it's unnecessary to try and argue semantics in this way.
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Solioxrz362
03/09/18 5:34:51 PM
#270:


gmun-kun posted...
alt costume wise there's no reason not to use Link's unique outfits or Samus's armour

... but BotW Link being confirmed means Link finally has a legit alt now at least, since there's noooooo waaaay Link doesn't have a green tunic option as well

Fierce Diety still needs to be more accurate though, not just a recolour of the tunic

but man Samus

shitty recolours of Brawl/4:
ztr46RA

what we SHOULD get:
9B9kra1

yeah this would be pretty fucking awesome
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BowserCuffs
03/09/18 5:35:35 PM
#271:


Trying to put together my wishlist.

King K. Rool, as he did score pretty high in the popularity poll for someone who hasn't been around since an (obscure?) DS game which was a sequel to an (also obscure?) GBA game.

Krystal, using a moveset inspired by Starfox Adventures. Bonus: Alternate costume that makes her look like her original Dinosaur Planet incarnation.

Wolf, because if you're gonna put in the straight male furry bait, may as well put the gay male furry bait in as well.

Isaac from Golden Sun. Everyone keeps saying Golden Sun is a dead franchise, but they forget that Kid Icarus was an even deader franchise when Pit was added to Brawl. And guess what? It revived the franchise.

Toon Zelda and Tetra - two characters technically. In this instance, though, I could see Toon Zelda being more of a physically-oriented character than regular Zelda, and Tetra would be the pirate to run counter to Sheik's ninja. Admittedly, this is pretty low on my wishlist.

Obligatory Third Party Entry: Solaire from Dark Souls. Praise the Sun!

Holy Grail Entry*: Ridley from Metroid

(Holy Grail because it's wondrous and mythical and likely will never happen, but it would be amazing if it did)
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foolm0r0n
03/09/18 5:35:56 PM
#272:


BOTW Link's weapon will break every 3 attacks and you'll have to press downB to find a new one
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Paratroopa1
03/09/18 5:36:49 PM
#273:


BowserCuffs posted...
Wolf, because if you're gonna put in the straight male furry bait, may as well put the gay male furry bait in as well.

we've already got Falco, I'm good
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BowserCuffs
03/09/18 5:38:48 PM
#274:


Paratroopa1 posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
Wolf, because if you're gonna put in the straight male furry bait, may as well put the gay male furry bait in as well.

we've already got Falco, I'm good


There is never enough gay male furry bait.
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LeonhartFour
03/09/18 5:39:11 PM
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scarletspeed7
03/09/18 5:39:13 PM
#276:


BowserCuffs posted...
Obligatory Third Party Entry: Solaire from Dark Souls. Praise the Sun!

Didn't think of this until now, but I could totally see that.
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KamikazePotato
03/09/18 5:39:25 PM
#277:


Solioxrz362 posted...
So please stop nitpicking at dumb stuff like that, I'm sure you understand what I meant and it's unnecessary to try and argue semantics in this way.

No, I don't understand what you mean. There is very little difference in having a character be an alt and having them be on the character screen. It's a very arbitrary thing to want to change. If anything it's nice seeing more unique characters on-screen. It emphasizes how diverse Nintendo's character cast is.
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Lightning Strikes
03/09/18 5:40:40 PM
#278:


Shulk is super safe. Popular, franchise on the way up, and if Rex was in the game he would theoretically play very differently. He would probably be billed as Rex&Pyra for various reasons too.

Who are the big NEW Nintendo characters since 4 (and the DLC) came out? Inkling obviously, Rex/Pyra, and whoever the lead in the new FE is are the most likely candidates. Decidueye is one I've heard suggested that makes a lot of sense. 4 had a clear push to newer characters and it makes sense for this to follow suit.
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heroicmario
03/09/18 5:41:48 PM
#279:


foolm0r0n posted...
BOTW Link's weapon will break every 3 attacks and you'll have to press downB to find a new one

Haha. This is brilliant. Uniquely true to form, as it is obnoxious. Make it like Peachs smash moveseach pull is a different type.
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KamikazePotato
03/09/18 5:42:09 PM
#280:


Robin already has the weapon breaking gimmick covered.
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LeonhartFour
03/09/18 5:43:27 PM
#281:


gotta put in a Rabbid because of the Mario/Rabbids crossover

also there's that TWEWY port coming out for Switch so let's put Neku in
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heroicmario
03/09/18 5:43:30 PM
#282:


Why must we all forget Spring Man? Does no one play ARMS! Lets get a unique guy over another Fire Emblem sword user!
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heroicmario
03/09/18 5:44:47 PM
#283:


KamikazePotato posted...
Robin already has the weapon breaking gimmick covered.

All the more reason, frankly! BOTW is made entirely around the concept, anyway. Link has no defined weapon in that game!
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mnkboy907
03/09/18 5:47:59 PM
#284:


foolm0r0n posted...
BOTW Link's weapon will break every 3 attacks and you'll have to press downB to find a new one

Just as long as he has a chance to dig up one of Peach's turnips.
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LeonhartFour
03/09/18 5:48:08 PM
#285:


there should be a BotW stage with lightning strikes to auto-KO anyone using metallic equipment
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heroicmario
03/09/18 5:49:05 PM
#286:


LeonhartFour posted...
there should be a BotW stage with lightning strikes to auto-KO anyone using metallic equipment

Now were rolling. This is a stage hazard that could pair well with items.
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gmun-kun
03/09/18 5:50:57 PM
#287:


Lightning Strikes posted...
Who are the big NEW Nintendo characters since 4

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KamikazePotato
03/09/18 5:52:41 PM
#288:


Let's get weird

New ports to the Switch include:
Undertale
Dark Souls

So we could potentially get Sans and Solaire. Also, Shovel Knight *did* have that one Amiibo......
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LeonhartFour
03/09/18 5:53:24 PM
#289:


including an Undertale character would probably make ExTha quit the series forever so go for it
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Solioxrz362
03/09/18 5:56:59 PM
#290:


KamikazePotato posted...
Solioxrz362 posted...
So please stop nitpicking at dumb stuff like that, I'm sure you understand what I meant and it's unnecessary to try and argue semantics in this way.

No, I don't understand what you mean. There is very little difference in having a character be an alt and having them be on the character screen. It's a very arbitrary thing to want to change. If anything it's nice seeing more unique characters on-screen. It emphasizes how diverse Nintendo's character cast is.

Alt costume = just texture and voice differences, the two characters play the exact same with no gameplay difference
Separate character select slot = there's a gameplay difference between the two

If you're gonna have characters be separate on the select screen, cloning is not the way to do it. At that point, might as well give the separate character an actually unique moveset instead of just copying over the other character's stuff
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charmander6000
03/09/18 5:57:09 PM
#291:


Lightning Strikes posted...
Shulk is super safe. Popular, franchise on the way up, and if Rex was in the game he would theoretically play very differently. He would probably be billed as Rex&Pyra for various reasons too.

Who are the big NEW Nintendo characters since 4 (and the DLC) came out? Inkling obviously, Rex/Pyra, and whoever the lead in the new FE is are the most likely candidates. Decidueye is one I've heard suggested that makes a lot of sense. 4 had a clear push to newer characters and it makes sense for this to follow suit.


An ARMS character and Captain Toad (though he did exist since Super Mario Galaxy, he got his own game)
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Anagram
03/09/18 5:59:32 PM
#292:


Would Captain Toad count as a unique series? Also, would he really deserve a spot over normal Toad?

Normal Toad could have Toadette and Toadsworth as alt costumes.
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mnkboy907
03/09/18 6:02:54 PM
#293:


Captain Toad could still have Toadette as a costume, since she was playable in the game too.
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Leafeon13N
03/09/18 6:05:48 PM
#294:


BowserCuffs posted...
Paratroopa1 posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
Wolf, because if you're gonna put in the straight male furry bait, may as well put the gay male furry bait in as well.

we've already got Falco, I'm good


There is never enough gay male furry bait.


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charmander6000
03/09/18 6:10:04 PM
#295:


Anyway, here is a list of Nintendo characters which had costumes in SSB4

Ashley
Black Knight
Chrom
Dunban
Flying Man
Geno
Isabelle
K.K. Slider
King K. Rool
Takamaru
Toad
Viridi
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WazzupGenius00
03/09/18 6:26:05 PM
#296:


EmoCombeeDancin posted...
oh yeah and pac-man>mrs. pac-man is another obvious one, but I'm imagining that there's a distinct legal reason that never happened in the first one.

Namco prefers to pretend Ms. Pac-Man (and all the other characters/games that Midway made under license but without permission from Namco) doesn't exist

That's why a lot of times in collections of Pac-Man games, Ms. Pac-Man is either not present or is DLC-only
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BowserCuffs
03/09/18 6:31:09 PM
#297:


Leafeon13N posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
Paratroopa1 posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
Wolf, because if you're gonna put in the straight male furry bait, may as well put the gay male furry bait in as well.

we've already got Falco, I'm good


There is never enough gay male furry bait.


Why settle for Falco when you can have Revali and Falco.


Yes. All of the yes.
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charmander6000
03/09/18 6:33:20 PM
#298:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
EmoCombeeDancin posted...
oh yeah and pac-man>mrs. pac-man is another obvious one, but I'm imagining that there's a distinct legal reason that never happened in the first one.

Namco prefers to pretend Ms. Pac-Man (and all the other characters/games that Midway made under license but without permission from Namco) doesn't exist

That's why a lot of times in collections of Pac-Man games, Ms. Pac-Man is either not present or is DLC-only


While true, Ms. Pac-Man is often found in Namco Museum games.
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Lightning Strikes
03/09/18 7:10:26 PM
#299:


Ribbon Girl over Spring Man for sure, for me anyway. Though both are very possible. Not only is she the better character of the two, I think there's a definite push towards more female characters to even the split a bit.
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Paratroopa1
03/09/18 7:17:24 PM
#300:


BowserCuffs posted...
Leafeon13N posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
Paratroopa1 posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
Wolf, because if you're gonna put in the straight male furry bait, may as well put the gay male furry bait in as well.

we've already got Falco, I'm good


There is never enough gay male furry bait.


Why settle for Falco when you can have Revali and Falco.


Yes. All of the yes.

give me Kass any day

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