Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 166: Three Trump Firings By 500 or Your Money Back

(+) Yeah! (+)

good to see Fox is bringing in the immigration experts to discuss the issue
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Reminder that we were warned Trump will fly off the handle more without Hope Hicks around
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Icehawk posted...

Corrik posted...

Icehawk posted...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/980443810529533952?s=19

Trump has gone from dems being the ones who don't want DACA, to "no more DACA deal". Ok then.

No more "deal" because Republicans have to go nuclear to pass DACA with what he wants also.

Republicans don't want what he wants though . The Trump bill only got 39 votes. The only bills that got over 50 votes were DACA for border security type deals. Trump wants to throw in crazy limits on legal immigration, which is why he can't make a deal.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/15/17017682/senate-immigration-daca-bill-vote-failed

Republicans also aren't going to go nuclear either.
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The only silver lining of that Sinclair video is all the Metal Gear references in the comments.

Also apparently the video is trending on youtube everywhere except the US, and is being repeatedly taken down when posted on reddit. To whoever said it flew under the radar...that's probably why.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Oh no! Not *gasp*...

...Caravans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkLBSLxo5LE" data-time="
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KamikazePotato posted...

and is being repeatedly taken down when posted on reddit.

... wha
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KamikazePotato posted...

The only silver lining of that Sinclair video is all the Metal Gear references in the comments.

Also apparently the video is trending on youtube everywhere except the US, and is being repeatedly taken down when posted on reddit. To whoever said it flew under the radar...that's probably why.

Huh. I was gonna say this is BS since I saw it multiple times in r/all last night, but now its gone completely
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No, wait, its still high up on r/videos

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/88ll08/this_is_what_happens_when_one_company_owns_dozens/?st=JFH06ORY&sh=daea7f66

63 gilds!
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I feel like every non-Sinclair owned news network should be heavily pushing this story.
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mnkboy907 posted...

I feel like every non-Sinclair owned news network should be heavily pushing this story.

Just...hopefully not all with the same script <_<
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I will also echo that KOMO is the main one we watched when I was growing up so it really does suck to hear this about them. Though part of me thinks we just chose that station because it was just the channel that also had Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy.
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Jakyl25 posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

The only silver lining of that Sinclair video is all the Metal Gear references in the comments.

Also apparently the video is trending on youtube everywhere except the US, and is being repeatedly taken down when posted on reddit. To whoever said it flew under the radar...that's probably why.

Huh. I was gonna say this is BS since I saw it multiple times in r/all last night, but now its gone completely

It keeps getting put back up but it also got taken down (at least from what I heard).
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https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/979731945725857793?s=19

#Russia's state TV: Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova, says that 60 expelled Russian "diplomats" can be replaced by 60 others. The U.S. is reportedly not limiting the size of Russian diplomatic mission in the U.S., like Russia is doing to Britain.
60 out 60 back in https://t.co/vseD4IlxKj

Lol
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Peace___Frog posted...

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/979731945725857793?s=19

#Russia's state TV: Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova, says that 60 expelled Russian "diplomats" can be replaced by 60 others. The U.S. is reportedly not limiting the size of Russian diplomatic mission in the U.S., like Russia is doing to Britain.
60 out 60 back in https://t.co/vseD4IlxKj

Lol

So basically it was nothing more than empty posturing.
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Exactly.
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BowserCuffs posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/979731945725857793?s=19

#Russia's state TV: Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova, says that 60 expelled Russian "diplomats" can be replaced by 60 others. The U.S. is reportedly not limiting the size of Russian diplomatic mission in the U.S., like Russia is doing to Britain.
60 out 60 back in https://t.co/vseD4IlxKj

Lol

So basically it was nothing more than empty posturing.

Welcome to the Trump Administration
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NFUN posted...

BowserCuffs posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/979731945725857793?s=19

#Russia's state TV: Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova, says that 60 expelled Russian "diplomats" can be replaced by 60 others. The U.S. is reportedly not limiting the size of Russian diplomatic mission in the U.S., like Russia is doing to Britain.
60 out 60 back in https://t.co/vseD4IlxKj

Lol

So basically it was nothing more than empty posturing.

Welcome to the Trump Administration

Lol

But seriously, anyone who'd been following Trump's actions without being part of his cult would've realized that it was empty posturing to begin with.

This just confirms it.
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Im not just gonna blindly believe one of Putins mouthpieces on that
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Jakyl25 posted...

Im not just gonna blindly believe one of Putins mouthpieces on that

Why not? Being Vlado is fun!

That said, even if true, they always guised it under the idea of being expelling spies.
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Was really curious to see how The_Donald was responding to the Sinclair video

Theyre just completely ignoring it. The couple posts about it are getting zero traffic

Their big things today are pretending to be Russian troll bots for April Fools Day, and raising a fit that theres no Google Doodle for Easter
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Jakyl25 posted...

Im not just gonna blindly believe one of Putins mouthpieces on that

The state department confirmed it, but i understand your hesitation
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Jakyl25 posted...

Reminder that we were warned Trump will fly off the handle more without Hope Hicks around

Reminder that this came out about a week after it was announced she was leaving:

3/8/2018
VANITY FAIR - TRUMP IS GOING FOR A CLEAN RESET: FUMING IN THE WEST WING, TRUMP PREPARES TO DEFENESTRATE CUCK ALLIES AND GO FULL MAGA

According to five Republicans close to the White House, Trump has diagnosed the problem as having the wrong team around him and is looking to replace his senior staff in the coming weeks. Trump is going for a clean reset, but he needs to do it in a way thats systemic so it doesnt look like its chaos, one Republican said.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/03/trump-is-going-for-a-clean-reset

Nailing it.
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3/31/2018
NPR - Kentucky Lawmakers Limit Black Lung Claims Reviews Despite Epidemic

Just six pulmonologists in Kentucky have the federal certification to read black lung X-rays and four of them routinely are hired by coal companies or their insurers, according to an NPR review of federal black lung cases.

The two remaining pulmonologists have generally assessed X-rays on behalf of coal miners but one is semi-retired and his federal certification expires June 1.

Among the radiologists excluded by the law is Dr. Brandon Crum, who helped expose the biggest clusters ever documented of complicated black lung, the advanced stage of the fatal disease that strikes coal miners.

"I do believe the coal industry is writing this bill to exclude certain doctors that they don't like," said Phillip Wheeler, an attorney in Pikeville, Ky., who represents coal miners seeking state black lung benefits.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/31/598484688/
kentucky-lawmakers-limit-black-lung-claims-reviews-despite-epidemic?
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utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_
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Donald's gonna speak out against this, right?
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HaRRicH posted...

Donald's gonna speak out against this, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0" data-time="
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btw harrich as a general rule, you can remove everything after the ? in news article URLs
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HaRRicH posted...

3/31/2018
NPR - Kentucky Lawmakers Limit Black Lung Claims Reviews Despite Epidemic

Just six pulmonologists in Kentucky have the federal certification to read black lung X-rays and four of them routinely are hired by coal companies or their insurers, according to an NPR review of federal black lung cases.

The two remaining pulmonologists have generally assessed X-rays on behalf of coal miners but one is semi-retired and his federal certification expires June 1.

Among the radiologists excluded by the law is Dr. Brandon Crum, who helped expose the biggest clusters ever documented of complicated black lung, the advanced stage of the fatal disease that strikes coal miners.

"I do believe the coal industry is writing this bill to exclude certain doctors that they don't like," said Phillip Wheeler, an attorney in Pikeville, Ky., who represents coal miners seeking state black lung benefits.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/31/598484688/
kentucky-lawmakers-limit-black-lung-claims-reviews-despite-epidemic?
utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=nprstoriesfromnpr&
utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_
campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20180331

Donald's gonna speak out against this, right?

Nope because most of coal country in Kentucky hates miners who seek anything for this because it "hurts coal" so Donald's going to play to his base
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Reg posted...

btw harrich as a general rule, you can remove everything after the ? in news article URLs

Good to know, thanks!
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HaRRicH posted...

Reg posted...

btw harrich as a general rule, you can remove everything after the ? in news article URLs

Good to know, thanks!

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CNN trying to stoke the fire of its base. Lol
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You, uh, wanna give some context? Instead of none at all?
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kevwaffles posted...

You, uh, wanna give some context? Instead of none at all?

Main headline. China hits USA with $3 Billion in tariffs in retaliation for what is said to be unfair USA tariffs on steel and aluminum. That is probably more context than CNN gave.
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Ok...

Is it fake? Is it old? Is there some context for why it's not a big deal? Is there literally any reason to classify it as firing up their base other than you don't like that they're talking about it?
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kevwaffles posted...

Ok...

Is it fake? Is it old? Is there some context for why it's not a big deal? Is there literally any reason to classify it as firing up their base other than you don't like that they're talking about it?

Tariffs on China are nothing new. It also doesn't explain why the tariffs were implemented. The article basically paints US as a bully that China is fighting back against. In my assessment.
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But China's tariffs are new, yes? Our tariffs being "old" is sort of obvious if they're doing it in response. That's how a response works.
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kevwaffles posted...

But China's tariffs are new, yes? Our tariffs being "old" is sort of obvious if they're doing it in response. That's how a response works.

No. What they are glossing over is that people slap tariffs on us all the time and we slap tariffs on China too. Obama slapped tariffs on China, for example.

The article paints us as a bully, in my opinion.
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http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/03/news/economy/obama-china-tire-tariff/index.html

That's a pretty minor tariff and response compared to this.
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Also "shockingly" Trump made a way bigger show of our recent tariffs in the first place. Even if the severity of the tariffs were comparable to older ones, that's basically making the response newsworthy before it even happens.
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Icehawk posted...

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/03/news/economy/obama-china-tire-tariff/index.html

That's a pretty minor tariff and response compared to this.

"Tariffs accomplished what they intended but made no difference". That is basically what that article just said and it was mind blowing.

Tariffs successfully stemmed job losses in the sector. Tariffs accomplished nothing.

Tariffs increased costs of tires from American companies. Tariffs were skirted by just continuing to buy foreign tires from next lowest companies.

Which is it?

These other countries only can produce for cheaper because they have no environmental standards and worker standards.

How can we sit back and let American industry die off because we force our companies into higher standards that parts of the rest of the world don't adhere to?

If you want to force that on American companies, then force America to buy American so they are not killed off by them.
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Trump's on a Twitter bender this morning. All the greatest hits - DACA, Sinclair, FBI/DoJ, Fake News, Amazon/USPS.
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Sooooooo.......

https://twitter.com/AndrewBeatty/status/980792518496399360

#BREAKING @AFP (Moscow) President Trump has invited President Vladimir Putin to visit the White House: Kremlin

this would've been a good april fools story but we're a day late...
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More economic than political but they're tied together. Sorry if it's old to you guys but it's new and surprising to me

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-02/a-wild-ride-behind-the-scenes-as-saudi-crown-prince-does-america

Saudi are going to make 5% of Saudi Aramco public. This explains some of MBS' moves lately and increased transparency etc.

For reference:

Saudi Aramco's market value has been estimated at between $2 trillion and $10 trillion, making it the most valuable company in the world.

Madness
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Corrik posted...

Icehawk posted...

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/03/news/economy/obama-china-tire-tariff/index.html

That's a pretty minor tariff and response compared to this.

"Tariffs accomplished what they intended but made no difference". That is basically what that article just said and it was mind blowing.

Tariffs successfully stemmed job losses in the sector. Tariffs accomplished nothing.

Tariffs increased costs of tires from American companies. Tariffs were skirted by just continuing to buy foreign tires from next lowest companies.

Which is it?

These other countries only can produce for cheaper because they have no environmental standards and worker standards.

How can we sit back and let American industry die off because we force our companies into higher standards that parts of the rest of the world don't adhere to?

If you want to force that on American companies, then force America to buy American so they are not killed off by them.

There is a benefit too though. Imports give us cheaper goods, and if we pay less for the things we need, that helps us. If we have to spend more on local stuff alone, that is less money we are spending on other things. We also rely on outside markets to sell some of our goods, so if countries strike back with trade war tactics, that still hurts our own industry.

You can see what happened with Obama's tire tariff. It helped that one industry a little bit, yes, but costs went up for everyone with that product, and the retaliatory tariffs hurt the industries that rely on other people buying. It's not cut and dry. The tariffs accomplished nothing, because they estimate businesses and consumers having to pay more for their tires, and the cost of the tariffs in other sectors hurt the economy in other ways.

This is also a big story because of Trump's rhetoric, as kev said. He said "trade wars are easy to win!", so there is concern about a trade war, which is good for no one.
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Hm, you know

Literally zero of these sinclair-owned stations are in DFW. The good news is that I don't have to worry about my parents watching that shit. The bad news is that nobody relevant will probably care about what a Dallas resident has to say because I'm out of the impact zone ~_~
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Icehawk posted...

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/03/news/economy/obama-china-tire-tariff/index.html

That's a pretty minor tariff and response compared to this.

And remember, he didn't just do this, he bragged about it and campaigned on it.

https://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/2012/09/21/vote-for-obama-because-he-made-your-cost-of-living-go-up/
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Nobody's going to give you hits
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SmartMuffin posted...

Icehawk posted...

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/03/news/economy/obama-china-tire-tariff/index.html

That's a pretty minor tariff and response compared to this.

And remember, he didn't just do this, he bragged about it and campaigned on it.

https://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/2012/09/21/vote-for-obama-because-he-made-your-cost-of-living-go-up/

I won't click the link LOL. But yeah, pretty silly. At least, silly in the way things in politics used to be silly and worth a blog post. There's a weird intersection of the right and the left that likes these policies. I think congresspeople are generally supportive of tariffs that help their district/state, and less supportive of others, which is why we need a president to see beyond that.. But yeah, there's enough analysis out there to show tariffs are generally not worthwhile, unless someone is being a truly bad actor.
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I do enjoy that Smartmuffin arises the second there is even the most minor thing to criticize Obama on. At this point, Obama was more of a free trade warrior than the current iteration of the GOP! He would have gotten TPP through!
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Regaro posted...

Hm, you know

Literally zero of these sinclair-owned stations are in DFW. The good news is that I don't have to worry about my parents watching that shit. The bad news is that nobody relevant will probably care about what a Dallas resident has to say because I'm out of the impact zone ~_~

Don't forget, they are trying to acquire more stations. And Trump doesn't exactly look like he cares. They might be in your market soon enough...
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Libertarianism sucks.
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