Current Events > I don't think streamers should be punished for uttering racists/hateful remarks

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I'd kill myself if I couldn't drink on stream and I'd kill myself if I couldn't say stupid things while drinking. Just because someone says something stupid while drinking doesn't mean they mean it.
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Virus731 posted...

I'd kill myself if I couldn't drink on stream

Sounds like you need to see a therapist.

JE19426 posted...

Virus731 posted...

I'd kill myself if I couldn't drink on stream

Sounds like you need to see a therapist.

sounds like you need a drink
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Virus731 posted...

sounds like you need a drink

I'm not the one saying they'd kill themselves over a minor issue.

Most people are not you and can get by just fine in a performance setting without having to A) be drunk or B) say hateful things.

While I wouldn't support any legal repercussions for those who say racist/hateful things on stream, I won't deny the parent company whose front-end they're using from preventing them from continuing, nor would I stop any social effort to avoid that person's content.
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Start your own platform, then.
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Know what we call people who say racist things when they're drunk?

Racists.
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*heated gaming moments
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A drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts. Or something like that.
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Lets be real: racial slurs are like super curse words.

Sometimes the younger crowd will say them just because of the forbidden nature of them
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Why does getting drunk make saying racist shit okay?

Fucking amateur hour.
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Streamers are lucky they get paid at all so I think it's fine for them to follow some basic guidelines for the easiest paycheck ever.
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Caution999 posted...

Lets be real: racial slurs are like super curse words.

Sometimes the younger crowd will say them just because of the forbidden nature of them

True, but they should learn that it's really not cool. That being said, kid or not, if it's against the platforms rules, don't whine when you get in trouble.
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Its so easy not to use racial slurs, its p telling if you accidentally let one slip. Like, what are you like behind closed doors?
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JE19426 posted...

I'm not the one saying they'd kill themselves over a minor issue.

taking comments so seriously is the issue

CyricZ posted...

Most people are not you and can get by just fine in a performance setting without having to A) be drunk or B) say hateful things.

implying that people shouldn't be allowed to get drunk streaming, which is the lowest form of performance

Southernfatman posted...

A drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts. Or something like that.

that's such a bullshit saying

LordRazziel posted...

True, but they should learn that it's really not cool. That being said, kid or not, if it's against the platforms rules, don't whine when you get in trouble.

so is it racist or not cool? fucking hypocrite

PerseusRad posted...

Its so easy not to use racial slurs, its p telling if you accidentally let one slip. Like, what are you like behind closed doors?

as someone else said, they are used as super swears. why people can't separate that between actual racism or hate speech is fucking beyond me
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the amount of pc bullshit comments from people that are so afraid of being labeled something they know deep down they're not

lol
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Virus731 posted...

the amount of pc bullshit comments from people that are so afraid of being labeled something they know deep down they're not

lol

Or you know, some people just don't use racial slurs or slurs of any sort because they're not garbage people. Idk though

Carveless posted...

Or you know, some people just don't use racial slurs or slurs of any sort because they're not garbage people. Idk though

yet you don't give a reason or differentiate between someone using a super swear out of a time of inebriation and someone with genuine hate, you just regurgitate the same shit
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Their audience should punish them but the service providers should be neutral and pro-free expression.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Their audience should punish them but the service providers should be neutral and pro-free expression.

most audiences don't care because one racial or homophobic slur towards a random person doesn't make them racists, it means they said a word

lynching people makes you racists
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Their audience should punish them but the service providers should be neutral and pro-free expression.

The service providers are able to provide the service because of advertisements, subscriptions, etc. Twitch isn't a "common good".
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Virus731 posted...

Carveless posted...

Or you know, some people just don't use racial slurs or slurs of any sort because they're not garbage people. Idk though

yet you don't give a reason or differentiate between someone using a super swear out of a time of inebriation and someone with genuine hate, you just regurgitate the same shit

"Super swear word" is that what it's being called now? Just stopping dropping n bombs and treat black people like humans and your life will improve.

lol tc mad he got booted for dropping n bombs cuz he couldn't hold his liquor
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I think they should be punished and banned from what ever platform they use. There are two ways to think the right way and the wrong way. And it just angers and upsets me when I see people promoting wrong think. I know my beliefs and thoughts are right and there is no reason to think differently unless you are a racist/bigot.
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so is it racist or not cool? fucking hypocrite

What? Pretty clear from the post I quoted that if is some kid saying naughty words it isn't cool, guess some adults may do that, too. What hypocrisy are you talking about? Racist or not, it isn't tolerated on any of the current platforms. qq. If you want to start one where that is tolerated, go for it. He'll, if you want to start one that is straight up white supremacist, idgaf, it's a free country.
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Wow look at TC in defense of racial slurs. The sheer brass.
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Hey guys I don't think there should be repercussions for doing stupid shit, agree with me or else you're a pc sheeple
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I wholeheartedly agree with TC.

Today's society is so fragile it would be a compliment to say it's made of glass.
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If you say racist and hateful things when you drink, you're probably a racist and hateful person.
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Chances are you're saying the same stupid shit while sober.
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Swearing and shit talking, no.

Racism and gay slurs, yes.

And I don't buy drinking as an excuse to start throwing around racial slurs.
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I dunno, I've managed to avoid using racial slurs while drunk
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halomonkey1_3_5 posted...

lol tc mad he got booted for dropping n bombs cuz he couldn't hold his liquor

I don't drop n bombs in anger because I don't get angry in video games. I occasionally say it as shock value, perhaps as a punch line to a a shitty joke and it can get a gasp and a chuckle, but I don't use it in hate.

CyricZ posted...

Wow look at TC in defense of racial slurs. The sheer brass.

Get off your high horse.

Burgess posted...

Chances are you're saying the same stupid shit while sober.

What a stupid thing to say. You're basically implying that alcohol doesn't impair people's judgement or makes them say stupid things, which is an incredibly stupid/ignorant thing to say.

The Admiral posted...

Swearing and shit talking, no.

Racism and gay slurs, yes.

And I don't buy drinking as an excuse to start throwing around racial slurs.

"throwing around racist slurs"

If someone says the n word once, it isn't throwing it around, yet people instantly get branded a racist or piece of shit immediately after doing so.

Antifar posted...

I dunno, I've managed to avoid using racial slurs while drunk

Doubt you've never said a racial slur, or homophobic slur online. I can guarantee you have at one point or another in the privacy of a friend group. Not out of hate, mind you, but because there is no harm in saying it without hate.
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if my girl paula deen lost her career for something that happened ages ago, wtf did pewpoo get a slap on the wrist?

Virus731 posted...

Just because someone says something stupid while drinking doesn't mean they mean it.

in vino veritas
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Virus731 posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Their audience should punish them but the service providers should be neutral and pro-free expression.

most audiences don't care because one racial or homophobic slur towards a random person doesn't make them racists, it means they said a word

lynching people makes you racists

Racist tc thinks hes not racist unless hes killing people for their race
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TBH you sound like an alcoholic, you don't need alcohol to have a good time.
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TC just earned an only racist when drunk tag. Basically a medal
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Lmao it's funny how this topic turned on TC.
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I mean, he has both the most conservative and the most liberal posters on CE in agreement against him.

Really, how many people can say that?
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They are not being punished. Their business relationships are being terminated, due to a conflict in ethical standards.
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Virus731 posted...

Doubt you've never said a racial slur, or homophobic slur online. I can guarantee you have at one point or another in the privacy of a friend group. Not out of hate, mind you, but because there is no harm in saying it without hate.

Twitch streams are completely public though. So even if this was the case for some people isn't this irrelevant?
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Look, if you get recorded saying something, you gotta own up to what you say. Don't like it? Don't record yourself.
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In vino veritas. What you say while drunk is typically your unfiltered thoughts.

Also, you say racist shit in public, you generally catch some hell for it. Same idea for setting up a stream that potentially thousands could watch.

Virus731 posted...

halomonkey1_3_5 posted...

lol tc mad he got booted for dropping n bombs cuz he couldn't hold his liquor

I don't drop n bombs in anger because I don't get angry in video games. I occasionally say it as shock value, perhaps as a punch line to a a shitty joke and it can get a gasp and a chuckle, but I don't use it in hate.

CyricZ posted...

Wow look at TC in defense of racial slurs. The sheer brass.

Get off your high horse.

Burgess posted...

Chances are you're saying the same stupid shit while sober.

What a stupid thing to say. You're basically implying that alcohol doesn't impair people's judgement or makes them say stupid things, which is an incredibly stupid/ignorant thing to say.

The Admiral posted...

Swearing and shit talking, no.

Racism and gay slurs, yes.

And I don't buy drinking as an excuse to start throwing around racial slurs.

"throwing around racist slurs"

If someone says the n word once, it isn't throwing it around, yet people instantly get branded a racist or piece of shit immediately after doing so.

Antifar posted...

I dunno, I've managed to avoid using racial slurs while drunk

Doubt you've never said a racial slur, or homophobic slur online. I can guarantee you have at one point or another in the privacy of a friend group. Not out of hate, mind you, but because there is no harm in saying it without hate.

You see how youve outted yourself right? People who arent racist dont scream slurs just because theyre drunk. And they certainly dont just casually use them in their everyday life like you do lol. Dude, youre kinda racist, it is what it is, you dont have to lie to kick it. And no, I dont casually use slurs when Im with my friends. Because my friends dont only consist of ignorant racist straight white male teenagers like your group.
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your making racist accusations and generizations in order to be "anti-racist"....sorry to inform you, but that is racism as well; even worse, driven racism with some sort of "goal" in mind; i'm going to have to ask you to stop doing that, it makes you come off really badly
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Why use those words with all that history and meaning tied to them when you could use other words, especially in front of people who are listening and watching and dont share your same views? Idk what race, sexual orientation, gender, or whatever else you are but you cant shut down other people who take offense to those words because you personally dont feel offended.

I dont know where people get off by being offensive and discriminatory towards others and defend it by calling it free speech. Its not free speech, its hate speech; and Im personally getting fed up with people who use the philosophical bs freedom of speech as a pass to justify racism, homophobia, and other hateful remarks and behavior.

https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2018/03/30/a-new-record

Language warning.

Seriously though, its really not that difficult to not say racial or homophobic slurs, even while drunk. Its kind of telling when people say that they cant not say those words.
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