Poll of the Day > 17 y/o Fat Kid who Murdered 10 People also Killed the Girl who HUMILIATED HIM!!!

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One of the Teen Girls, 15 y/o Shana Fisher, who was killed in the Texas Shooting in Santa Fe had recently REJECTED and PUBLICLY HUMILIATED the fat shooter, 17 y/o Dimitios Pagourtzis!!

She was going to turn 16 in just days but died in the attack and had been fending off advances from Dimitrios for MONTHS according to her mother, Sadie Rodriguez.

She said "He continued to get more aggressive. She finally stood up to him and embarrassed him"

It is the first indication of a motive that left 10 people dead at the Santa Fe High school as it's a theory police have yet to confirm.

Family members have called Dimitrios as "sweet" and "quiet" who got more aggressive with Shana until she finally publicly rejected him in class as the romantic rejection took place a week before the attack.

Nicholas Poehl, who is the lawyer for the family said he hasn't heard of any such accusation and couldn't comment

He has confessed to the shooting after he burst into an Art room where Shana was in and yelled "SURPRISE!" where he used a Shotgun and Revolver and an AR-15 style gun. He finally gave up after telling the students "You're going to pay" before he crumbled to the ground and surrendered to police. He left students he liked "alive" so he could have his "story told" on why he did it

A junior said he had the guns hidden under his trench coat which he wore everyday that had nazi and communist memorabilia..

Breanna Quintanilla who was in the art class said he told them "If you all move, i'm going to shoot you all". He pointed a gun at one person and said "I'm going to kill you" and then fired. She ran to the back door and he started aiming at her and fired but missed as she got away but was hit in the right leg from a ricocheted bullet.

He taunted the art students as Deedra Van Ness said her daughter, Isabelle hid under the desk and said he would re enter the room and yelled "Are you dead" and then fired more shots. She survived by laying motionless

He reportedly got the guns from his gun loving father who is a stringent Conservative as he voiced support for Dana Loesch and Fox News

He is now charged with capital murder and could face the death penalty

Does this sound like another incel murderer??.

Shana - Deceased

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/20/05/4C74F7E200000578-0-image-m-4_1526789016930.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/20/05/4C74F7DD00000578-0-image-a-7_1526789117879.jpg

Dimitrios - Murderer

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/20/05/4C69485300000578-0-image-a-5_1526789039195.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/20/05/4C6970EB00000578-0-image-m-16_1526791278441.jpg

Pagourtzis family -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/18/23/4C69D29500000578-0-image-a-1_1526684289378.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/19/00/4C69C53700000578-0-image-a-20_1526685095568.jpg

Victims -

Ann Perkins -

http://tinyurl.com/y87ot4wr

Chris Stone -

http://tinyurl.com/ya69x6aq

Sabika Sheikh -

http://tinyurl.com/y9to7p5x

Cynthia Tisdale -

http://tinyurl.com/y6wuckal

Angelique Ramirez -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/19/02/4C6A41B700000578-5746761-image-a-31_1526691951187.jpg

Kim Vaughn -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/19/02/4C6A41AF00000578-5746761-image-m-30_1526691940775.jpg

Aaryon Kyle McLeod -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/19/02/4C6A41C300000578-5746761-image-m-40_1526694904057.jpg

Christian Garcia -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/19/03/4C6A41C700000578-5746761-image-a-42_1526696735418.jpg

Jared Black -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/20/04/4C74E7D000000578-5747347-image-a-12_1526787263848.jpg
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Who cares if he was an incel. He's a murderer and will probably get life in prison.

Move on Duckbear.

While on the topic, why the hell can't you just keep your shit in one topic? Got a quota to meet? Get paid per topic?

Eh, I doubt it, but it seems accurate I guess.
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How about this: if your kid is a fucking lunatic because you have zero disciplining or parenting skills, don't let him sit and brood in his room polishing his 15 fucking assault rifles? And if it comes down to it, you can homeschool the little creep. Something to think about.

The creep that shot up the elementary school never came out of his room and acted hostile towards everyone in the house, and his parents just got him an assault rifle for his birthday. I know you can't keep an eye on them forever, but at least let the normal children live until college where you can't legally keep assault rifles away from them. It's a slightly more fulfilling life than 15.
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Sex problems lead to some fucked up stuff.
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Yellow posted...

don't let him sit and brood in his room polishing his 15 fucking assault rifles?

I dont think he even used an assault rifle.
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too young to be having sex but they learn this from t.v.

The term Incel really shouldn't be used for HS kids.

I'd also be willing to wager that his "advances" on the girl in question weren't actually that aggressive and that her embarrassing him was likely done in an over-the-top, needlessly cruel fashion, but we'll never know.

That all being said, kid should fry.
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These names are terrible.
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RoboXgp89 posted...

too young to be having sex but they learn this from t.v.

Lol 17 is too young to have sex?

Do you honestly not know about highschool? Teens are having sex all the time.

Back to duckbear

mrduckbear posted...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/19/00/4C69C53700000578-0-image-a-20_1526685095568.jpg

What are you trying to do, tarnish the fathers reputation as well?

>"see guys, his dad is conservative and his dad loves guns and he listens to these people therefore conservatives are bad people."

I wouldn't even consider it a motive.

The sort of person who shoots up a school is the sort of person any sane person would reject romantic proposals of. How many girls want to date a fucking nazi? Excuse me I think the politically correct term now is one of trumps "very fine people."

He shot up the school because we live in a world where people think these sorts of ideas have become accepted as valid political views.

BlackScythe0 posted...

He shot up the school because we live in a world where people think these sorts of ideas have become accepted as valid political views.

Now who sounds delusional?

I assure you no one thinks its a valid political idea to shoot up a school.

dioxxys posted...

BlackScythe0 posted...

He shot up the school because we live in a world where people think these sorts of ideas have become accepted as valid political views.

Now who sounds delusional?

I assure you no one thinks its a valid political idea to shoot up a school.

But it's valid to worship guns and genocide.

lol okay

mrduckbear posted...

Do you think this Fat Kid was an Incel

Certainly.
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Rasmoh posted...

I'd also be willing to wager that his "advances" on the girl in question weren't actually that aggressive

What makes you think that? If he's crazy enough to shoot up a school, he's crazy enough to make aggressive advances

green dragon posted...

What makes you think that? If he's crazy enough to shoot up a school, he's crazy enough to make aggressive advances

Fair enough. I guess I'm just wary of those sort of descriptions because so often the only thing that separates creepy from socially acceptable is how attractive the guy is. Not to mention "aggressive" is a very vague term. More details would be nice, I suppose.
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dioxxys posted...

RoboXgp89 posted...

too young to be having sex but they learn this from t.v.

Lol 17 is too young to have sex?

Do you honestly not know about highschool? Teens are having sex all the time.

the girl is 15 she can't even have a job or drive a car

BlackScythe0 posted...

How many girls want to date a fucking nazi? Excuse me I think the politically correct term now is one of trumps "very fine people."

Rasmoh posted...

because so often the only thing that separates creepy from socially acceptable is how attractive the guy is

Frankly, this is a canard trotted out by socially awkward people who refuse to face up to the fact that behavior they view as innocent can make women feel very unsafe. It's not rocket science that most girls don't want to date someone who makes them uncomfortable.
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mrduckbear posted...

He has confessed to the shooting after he burst into an Art room where Shana was in and yelled "SURPRISE!" where he used a Shotgun and Revolver and an AR-15 style gun.

Well, it was certainly a surprise...

mrduckbear posted...

He left students he liked "alive" so he could have his "story told" on why he did it

Then why did it take so long to establish what might be a motive? >_>

mrduckbear posted...

A junior said he had the guns hidden under his trench coat which he wore everyday that had nazi and communist memorabilia..

>_>

Otherwise, wouldn't wearing a trenchcoat in Texas year-round be a tipoff that he's a little unhinged? Seems like the kind of stuff that should put you on a watch list of some kind, even if it was only the fashion police's.

mrduckbear posted...

He is now charged with capital murder and could face the death penalty

Don't mess with Texas. It accounts for more than a third of the country's executions.

BlackScythe0 posted...

The sort of person who shoots up a school is the sort of person any sane person would reject romantic proposals of.

Circular logic.
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BlackScythe0 posted...

But it's valid to worship guns and genocide.

Who exactly is worshiping genocide nowadays? Well, besides Hamas-praising liberals?

Lirishae posted...

Rasmoh posted...

because so often the only thing that separates creepy from socially acceptable is how attractive the guy is

Frankly, this is a canard trotted out by socially awkward people who refuse to face up to the fact that behavior they view as innocent can make women feel very unsafe. It's not rocket science that most girls don't want to date someone who makes them uncomfortable.

Frankly, attractive people don't need to learn to not be socially awkward, though. Which is true even of your fallacious and disingenuous "safety" argument, since "safety" is often dependent on attraction given that people feel more comfortable around attractive people, even when it comes to their platonic gender. And there's a lot of genuinely fucked up behavior that attractive guys and girls can get away with that the rest of society wouldn't even try for fear of having the cops called.
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Lirishae posted...

Frankly, this is a canard trotted out by socially awkward people who refuse to face up to the fact that behavior they view as innocent can make women feel very unsafe.

While it's nice that you've stated your opinion as fact, it's hard to argue that it isn't a commonly observed phenomena to see an attractive person do something and have it be perceived positively whereas a less attractive person doing the same thing gets negative results. It could also be argued that women are overreacting to innocent behavior, but that gets into some murky territory.
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Cacciato posted...

Yellow posted...

don't let him sit and brood in his room polishing his 15 fucking assault rifles?

I dont think he even used an assault rifle.

I believe it was a shotgun and a revolver.

Ironically the two things everyone seems to accept as 'fine'.
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RoboXgp89 posted...

dioxxys posted...

RoboXgp89 posted...

too young to be having sex but they learn this from t.v.

Lol 17 is too young to have sex?

Do you honestly not know about highschool? Teens are having sex all the time.

the girl is 15 she can't even have a job or drive a car

You think that stops teens?

Teens start having sex as early as 13, doesnt matter if its illegal for adults to have sex with them, they screw each other.

How long has it been since you were in highschool?

Lirishae posted...

Frankly, this is a canard trotted out by socially awkward people who refuse to face up to the fact that behavior they view as innocent can make women feel very unsafe. It's not rocket science that most girls don't want to date someone who makes them uncomfortable.

I guess saying hi to somebody is uncomfortable.
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WastelandCowboy posted...

Who cares if he was an incel. He's a murderer and will probably get life in prison.

If the official line is "it's 100% a mental illness problem and nothing at all to do with guns so we shouldn't touch guns at all," then it is indeed necessary to care whether or not he's an incel, since that's a crucial part of his mental health.

Zeus posted...

Who exactly is worshiping genocide nowadays?

mrduckbear posted...

had nazi and communist memorabilia..

And then we've got the alt-right sugar-coating Nazism and presenting it as a legitimate ideology... I mean, really, you quoted this stuff yourself. Acting like you don't understand is just being disingenuous.

Revelation34 posted...

Lirishae posted...

Frankly, this is a canard trotted out by socially awkward people who refuse to face up to the fact that behavior they view as innocent can make women feel very unsafe. It's not rocket science that most girls don't want to date someone who makes them uncomfortable.

I guess saying hi to somebody is uncomfortable.

You already quoted and responded to that post, and I really don't think this second response was really witty enough to warrant making an additional post for it. That just makes you look desperate to express your bitterness.

And yes, if you're awkward enough about it, saying hi to somebody can indeed make them uncomfortable. If you're making people uncomfortable by saying hi to them, you really need to reevaluate your conduct.
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adjl posted...

You already quoted and responded to that post, and I really don't think this second response was really witty enough to warrant making an additional post for it. That just makes you look desperate to express your bitterness.

And yes, if you're awkward enough about it, saying hi to somebody can indeed make them uncomfortable. If you're making people uncomfortable by saying hi to them, you really need to reevaluate your conduct.

Well I would love for you to find another post I made since that was the only one I made in this thread. Also if anybody gets uncomfortable from somebody saying hi then they're clearly the insane one.
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Wait, are there actually parents out there who gives guns to their children as birthday gifts?
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My belief is that the US has too many people who believe that they're 'entitled' to getting everything they want without putting in any of the effort and/or work into it. They believe that they're 'entitled' to a girlfriend even though they make no effort to cultivate a relationship based on mutual respect; that they're 'entitled' to a job that pays $20/hour immediately out of college or high school, etc. Where I place the blame for the 'entitlement' culture is on our society from corporations that force parents to work themselves to death in order to keep food on the table to day cares and others who sit kids in front of television sets and/or Ipads for hours at a time in order to keep them occupied while they do other things; the list goes into the schools which teach kids that life is supposed to be 'fair' when it's not. All we're breeding is a bunch of conceited people who can't handle rejection and haven't learned any self-restraint.

GastroFan posted...

My belief is that the US has too many people who believe that they're 'entitled' to getting everything they want without putting in any of the effort and/or work into it. They believe that they're 'entitled' to a girlfriend even though they make no effort to cultivate a relationship based on mutual respect; that they're 'entitled' to a job that pays $20/hour immediately out of college or high school, etc. Where I place the blame for the 'entitlement' culture is on our society from corporations that force parents to work themselves to death in order to keep food on the table to day cares and others who sit kids in front of television sets and/or Ipads for hours at a time in order to keep them occupied while they do other things; the list goes into the schools which teach kids that life is supposed to be 'fair' when it's not. All we're breeding is a bunch of conceited people who can't handle rejection and haven't learned any self-restraint.

Lol.
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Revelation34 posted...

adjl posted...

You already quoted and responded to that post, and I really don't think this second response was really witty enough to warrant making an additional post for it. That just makes you look desperate to express your bitterness.

And yes, if you're awkward enough about it, saying hi to somebody can indeed make them uncomfortable. If you're making people uncomfortable by saying hi to them, you really need to reevaluate your conduct.

Well I would love for you to find another post I made since that was the only one I made in this thread. Also if anybody gets uncomfortable from somebody saying hi then they're clearly the insane one.

Apparently I shouldn't post before 8 am. I somehow conflated you with Rasmoh, who had also responded to the post a couple hours earlier. My bad.
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Anyone else think the killer kind of looks like a white duckbear?
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Revelation34 posted...

GastroFan posted...

My belief is that the US has too many people who believe that they're 'entitled' to getting everything they want without putting in any of the effort and/or work into it. They believe that they're 'entitled' to a girlfriend even though they make no effort to cultivate a relationship based on mutual respect; that they're 'entitled' to a job that pays $20/hour immediately out of college or high school, etc. Where I place the blame for the 'entitlement' culture is on our society from corporations that force parents to work themselves to death in order to keep food on the table to day cares and others who sit kids in front of television sets and/or Ipads for hours at a time in order to keep them occupied while they do other things; the list goes into the schools which teach kids that life is supposed to be 'fair' when it's not. All we're breeding is a bunch of conceited people who can't handle rejection and haven't learned any self-restraint.

Lol.

Despite your horrible attempt at baiting, he has a good point. Too many kids aren't taught the importance of failing and rejection, so they fucking snap when they can't handle it.

Feeling sexually frustrated and thinking the best way out of that frustration is high-caliber stress relief seem pretty intertwined.
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LeetCheet posted...

Wait, are there actually parents out there who gives guns to their children as birthday gifts?

I got a 12 gauge shotgun for my 12th birthday. It immediately went into my dad's safe. It was used strictly for hunting or target shooting with his supervision.

GanglyKhan posted...

pite your horrible attempt at baiting, he has a good point. Too many kids aren't taught the importance of failing and rejection, so they fucking snap when they can't handle it.

No school ever teaches kids life is fair.
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Revelation34 posted...

GanglyKhan posted...

pite your horrible attempt at baiting, he has a good point. Too many kids aren't taught the importance of failing and rejection, so they fucking snap when they can't handle it.

No school ever teaches kids life is fair.

http://abc13.com/education/new-rule-everyone-makes-cheer-squad-or-no-one-does/3438723/
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