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DaronAcemoglu
05/24/18 7:25:50 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/24/the

-group-least-likely-to-think-the-u-s-has-a-responsibility-to-

accept-refugees-evangelicals/?

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how Christian of these people.

Only 25 percent of evangelicals told Pew that they believed the United States has such a responsibility, half the percentage of Catholics who said the same thing and substantially lower than the religiously unaffiliated. In statistical terms, the percentage of evangelicals holding that view was about equal to the percentage of Republicans, 26 percent, given margins of error.
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iamintents
05/24/18 7:28:17 PM
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every evangelical i've met is incredibly arrogant and hypocritical. most are from the south.
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DaronAcemoglu
05/24/18 7:28:57 PM
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we actually do have a duty to people in Iraq and Afghanistan

we invaded and fucked up their countries
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DavidWong
05/24/18 7:30:25 PM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
we actually do have a duty to people in Iraq and Afghanistan

we invaded and fucked up their countries


You're right, but this post probably won't go over well here.
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Lord_Shadow
05/24/18 7:31:19 PM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
we actually do have a duty to people in Iraq and Afghanistan

we invaded and fucked up their countries

Who cares that's thier problem not ours.
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FairyLeviathan
05/24/18 7:33:16 PM
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Implying the Middle East hasn't always been fucked up
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DavidWong
05/24/18 7:34:50 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
DaronAcemoglu posted...
we actually do have a duty to people in Iraq and Afghanistan

we invaded and fucked up their countries

Who cares that's thier problem not ours.


These are the sort of people that if America is bombed by Russia or NK will seek asylum in Australia or England etc
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DaronAcemoglu
05/24/18 7:37:02 PM
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FairyLeviathan posted...
Implying the Middle East hasn't always been fucked up

You are implying the world hasn't been fucked up forever.

European peace is a relatively new thing and you people don't help with your constant warmongering.

But hey. Sageharpuia is being a bad person again?

What a shock.
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FairyLeviathan
05/24/18 7:39:13 PM
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ad hominem
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DaronAcemoglu
05/24/18 7:44:51 PM
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FairyLeviathan posted...
ad hominem

no you really are a bad person.

And I bet you are anti-refugee.

I don't know much about your religion but does it sap away all empathy from it's believers?
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Lord_Shadow
05/24/18 8:02:18 PM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
FairyLeviathan posted...
ad hominem

no you really are a bad person.

And I bet you are anti-refugee.

I don't know much about your religion but does it sap away all empathy from it's believers?

I'm atheist I say fuck them.
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DaronAcemoglu
05/24/18 8:06:41 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
DaronAcemoglu posted...
FairyLeviathan posted...
ad hominem

no you really are a bad person.

And I bet you are anti-refugee.

I don't know much about your religion but does it sap away all empathy from it's believers?

I'm atheist I say fuck them.

well you are just a bad person
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Lord_Shadow
05/24/18 8:30:20 PM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
DaronAcemoglu posted...
FairyLeviathan posted...
ad hominem

no you really are a bad person.

And I bet you are anti-refugee.

I don't know much about your religion but does it sap away all empathy from it's believers?

I'm atheist I say fuck them.

well you are just a bad person

Not really I'm just want whats best for The United States and it's Citizens. I see no benefit to the United States to import bunch of terrorists and Terrorist sympathizers in to US seeing as how poorly that worked out for Europe. I am not heartless however I have no qualms with bringing women and children so long as there kept to a refugee camp somewhere in the middle of Minnesota the men can have a gun and a box of ammo so they can take back their country hell a whole truck of guns for all I care we have to many gun here already but other then that I would give no aid unless they purchase it with their natural resources.
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DaronAcemoglu
05/24/18 8:32:42 PM
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you changed the goalpost.

You originally said it was their problem. to fuck am, and now you are talking about women and children.

jfc
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Lord_Shadow
05/24/18 8:37:18 PM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
you changed the goalpost.

You originally said it was their problem. to fuck am, and now you are talking about women and children.

jfc

I'm fine either way really the only reason I'm fine with helping the women and children is because their might be a net benefit to the US but ultimately it doesn't matter the bottom line is we should only do something if it benefits the US or is a detriment to one of our enemies.
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DaronAcemoglu
05/24/18 8:39:10 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
if it benefits the US o

that's not a good stance either
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Lord_Shadow
05/24/18 8:39:36 PM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
if it benefits the US o

that's not a good stance either

Why not?
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silentwing26x
05/24/18 8:40:34 PM
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The left wants Christians to be Christian only when it serves the left.

Being a Christian doesn't mean your politics have to be brainless. You can be a Christian and still realize that resources and space are limited.
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kayoticdreamz
05/24/18 8:48:19 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
The left wants Christians to be Christian only when it serves the left.

Being a Christian doesn't mean your politics have to be brainless. You can be a Christian and still realize that resources and space are limited.

this

also why is it americas exclusive problem, and even white europes exclusive problem, to let refugees into our countries?

theres only so many places on this planet and if you overcrowd western countries you're just going to turn them into shitholes again. plus most of these refugees are completely incompatible with western society. what I mean by that is they do not share our western values and contrary to popular opinion upholding western civilization requires a certain IQ level, you can't just flood the western countries with people from everywhere and not expect the damn thing to break.

on top of that many western countries are going through internal political turmoil.....can't we just i don't know, let those guys fix their own mess and close our borders so we can deal with our own mess before we go accepting a flood of people into our countries? seems reasonable. the western world needs some me time right now.

i'll never understand people who want to overrun the country with third world refugees. I get it, you feel bad for them, but you can't just let them come in here and expect they will magically conform to our standards. odds are they wont.
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DaronAcemoglu
05/24/18 8:51:18 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
The left wants Christians to be Christian only when it serves the left.

Being a Christian doesn't mean your politics have to be brainless. You can be a Christian and still realize that resources and space are limited.

most people on the left are Christians and I remember how strongly you feel about letting in white south African refugees
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silentwing26x
05/24/18 8:52:26 PM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
silentwing26x posted...
The left wants Christians to be Christian only when it serves the left.

Being a Christian doesn't mean your politics have to be brainless. You can be a Christian and still realize that resources and space are limited.

most people on the left are Christians and I remember how strongly you feel about letting in white south African refugees


Good. That is a good example of the left being immensely hypocritical.
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DaronAcemoglu
05/24/18 8:53:28 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
DaronAcemoglu posted...
silentwing26x posted...
The left wants Christians to be Christian only when it serves the left.

Being a Christian doesn't mean your politics have to be brainless. You can be a Christian and still realize that resources and space are limited.

most people on the left are Christians and I remember how strongly you feel about letting in white south African refugees


Good. That is a good example of the left being immensely hypocritical.

actually most of us support both white south Africans coming in and middle east refugees.

You only want the white ones to come
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silentwing26x
05/24/18 8:53:49 PM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
silentwing26x posted...
DaronAcemoglu posted...
silentwing26x posted...
The left wants Christians to be Christian only when it serves the left.

Being a Christian doesn't mean your politics have to be brainless. You can be a Christian and still realize that resources and space are limited.

most people on the left are Christians and I remember how strongly you feel about letting in white south African refugees


Good. That is a good example of the left being immensely hypocritical.

actually most of us support both white south Africans coming in and middle east refugees.

You only want the white ones to come


Lmao step up on your main
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DaronAcemoglu
05/25/18 12:13:33 AM
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Lord_Shadow
05/25/18 12:17:33 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
@DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
if it benefits the US o

that's not a good stance either

Why not?

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DaronAcemoglu
05/25/18 12:18:12 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
@DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
if it benefits the US o

that's not a good stance either

Why not?

because people who aren't American matter.
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Lord_Shadow
05/25/18 12:19:59 AM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
@DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
if it benefits the US o

that's not a good stance either

Why not?

because people who aren't American matter.

I'm sure they do but why should they matter to Americans especially if helping them at all does not benefit us?
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Rika_Furude
05/25/18 12:24:17 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
if it benefits the US o

that's not a good stance either

Why not?

Because they dont support gender equality, or equal rights fot the LGBT community, and are extremely xenophobic to the extent of rejecting their host countries culture and way of life.
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DaronAcemoglu
05/25/18 12:27:47 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
if it benefits the US o

that's not a good stance either

Why not?

Because they dont support gender equality, or equal rights fot the LGBT community, and are extremely xenophobic to the extent of rejecting their host countries culture and way of life.

Except Muslims in America are more likely to support gay marriage than evangelicals.

It's almost as if....unlike Europe we let them assimilate.

Lord_Shadow posted...
I'm sure they do but why should they matter to Americans especially if helping them at all does not benefit us?


Say this again while looking in the mirror.

Do you sometimes wonder if you are a bad person?
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DocDelicious
05/25/18 12:29:57 AM
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Feed the hungry and clothe the naked unless they're brown.
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Lord_Shadow
05/25/18 12:31:57 AM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
if it benefits the US o

that's not a good stance either

Why not?

Because they dont support gender equality, or equal rights fot the LGBT community, and are extremely xenophobic to the extent of rejecting their host countries culture and way of life.

Except Muslims in America are more likely to support gay marriage than evangelicals.

It's almost as if....unlike Europe we let them assimilate.

Lord_Shadow posted...
I'm sure they do but why should they matter to Americans especially if helping them at all does not benefit us?


Say this again while looking in the mirror.

Do you sometimes wonder if you are a bad person?

No I'm pretty fucking great actually but the US government should serve the American people with no regard to how it might negatively affect non citizens because they are not our concern the only time we should help foreign countries and by extension foreign citizens is when it will Profit or benefit the American people.
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Rika_Furude
05/25/18 12:33:51 AM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
if it benefits the US o

that's not a good stance either

Why not?

Because they dont support gender equality, or equal rights fot the LGBT community, and are extremely xenophobic to the extent of rejecting their host countries culture and way of life.

Except Muslims in America are more likely to support gay marriage than evangelicals.

It's almost as if....unlike Europe we let them assimilate.

Lord_Shadow posted...
I'm sure they do but why should they matter to Americans especially if helping them at all does not benefit us?


Say this again while looking in the mirror.

Do you sometimes wonder if you are a bad person?

In most places they immigrate to they refuse to assimilate. They segregate themselves. The ones who integrate into their new countries culture are the minority. They are the ones who will be negatively impacted by the mass refugees who dont behave.
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A_Good_Boy
05/25/18 12:34:43 AM
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silentwing26x posted...
The left wants Christians to be Christian only when it serves the left.

Being a Christian doesn't mean your politics have to be brainless. You can be a Christian and still realize that resources and space are limited.

Space is an issue
The midwest is nothing but empty land and 5 cities.
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DaronAcemoglu
05/25/18 12:40:46 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
In most places they immigrate to they refuse to assimilate. They segregate themselves. The ones who integrate into their new countries culture are the minority. They are the ones who will be negatively impacted by the mass refugees who dont behave.

Good thing America is not most places.

http://www.newsweek.com/muslim-white-evangelical-gay-marriage-907627

The majority of Muslim Americans are in favor of gay marriage.

Lord_Shadow posted...
No I'm pretty f***ing great actually but the US government should serve the American people with no regard to how it might negatively affect non citizens because they are not our concern the only time we should help foreign countries and by extension foreign citizens is when it will Profit or benefit the American people.


No, we extend our hand to the globally oppressed, poor and tired. That's how America should be, not the way it is today. Republicanism is all about ME ME ME and hatred towards those with darker skin tones.
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shnangyboos
05/25/18 12:44:52 AM
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America, the bad guy world police that needs to be the good guy world savior.
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Lord_Shadow
05/25/18 12:46:49 AM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
In most places they immigrate to they refuse to assimilate. They segregate themselves. The ones who integrate into their new countries culture are the minority. They are the ones who will be negatively impacted by the mass refugees who dont behave.

Good thing America is not most places.

http://www.newsweek.com/muslim-white-evangelical-gay-marriage-907627

The majority of Muslim Americans are in favor of gay marriage.

Lord_Shadow posted...
No I'm pretty f***ing great actually but the US government should serve the American people with no regard to how it might negatively affect non citizens because they are not our concern the only time we should help foreign countries and by extension foreign citizens is when it will Profit or benefit the American people.


No, we extend our hand to the globally oppressed, poor and tired. That's how America should be, not the way it is today. Republicanism is all about ME ME ME and hatred towards those with darker skin tones.

No fuck globally oppressed , poor and tired non Americans we have poor and tired people here at home our infrastructure gets a grade of D+ most poor people here don't make a living wage and our politicians are as corrupt as fuck so instead of wasteing our resources helping a bunch of people who at best are going to be ungrateful and at worse continuing to be openly hostile we should spend those resources on the American Homeland.
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DaronAcemoglu
05/25/18 12:49:24 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...

No f*** globally oppressed

Ok. And do you ever look in the mirror and think.

"I'm a bad person"

You should.
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Lord_Shadow
05/25/18 12:50:43 AM
#39:


DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...

No f*** globally oppressed

Ok. And do you ever look in the mirror and think.

"I'm a bad person"

You should.

Do you ever look at computer screen and read the rest of the post
You should
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DaronAcemoglu
05/25/18 12:53:11 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...

No f*** globally oppressed

Ok. And do you ever look in the mirror and think.

"I'm a bad person"

You should.

Do you ever look at computer screen and read the rest of the post
You should

I read it, and the poor people around the world are truly destitute. True poverty barely exists in America. People do not starve to death.
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Lord_Shadow
05/25/18 12:56:39 AM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...

No f*** globally oppressed

Ok. And do you ever look in the mirror and think.

"I'm a bad person"

You should.

Do you ever look at computer screen and read the rest of the post
You should

I read it, and the poor people around the world are truly destitute. True poverty barely exists in America. People do not starve to death.

The poor destitute people of the rest of the world are not a American problem as I pointed the us had its own issue it need to work out and should supersede anything any other poor nation's problems now if some poor Nation would like to pay for American Aid with their natural resources I'm open to that.
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DaronAcemoglu
05/25/18 12:58:08 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...

The poor destitute people of the rest of the world are not a American problem as I pointed the us had its own issue it need to work out and should supersede anything any other poor nation's problems now if some poor Nation would like to pay for American Aid with their natural resources I'm open to that.

We can do both. We are the the country with the world's largest economy.
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DaronAcemoglu
05/25/18 12:59:31 AM
#43:


but hey, you've shown how much of a selfish person you are with your absolute first post.
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Lord_Shadow
05/25/18 1:03:04 AM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...

The poor destitute people of the rest of the world are not a American problem as I pointed the us had its own issue it need to work out and should supersede anything any other poor nation's problems now if some poor Nation would like to pay for American Aid with their natural resources I'm open to that.

We can do both. We are the the country with the world's largest economy.

No if they want help they need pay for it no more handouts. The only time a handout is acceptable is when you supplying a proxy to defeat a enemy or it keeps that nation aligned with American interest for what ever strategic reason is necessary for that particular situation.
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Lord_Shadow
05/25/18 1:04:45 AM
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DaronAcemoglu posted...
but hey, you've shown how much of a selfish person you are with your absolute first post.

I'm not selfish I just rather Advance the interests of my countrymen rather than some random fuck in some random country that I have no interest in.
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DaronAcemoglu
05/25/18 1:14:25 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...

I'm not selfish I just rather Advance the interests of my countrymen rather than some random f*** in some random country that I have no interest in.

So you will bomb the crap out of someone but then not help them because they aren't american.

Yeah, you're an awful person.
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pres_madagascar
05/25/18 1:16:36 AM
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FairyLeviathan posted...
Implying the Middle East hasn't always been fucked up

It hasn't. Mostly a result of British and American fuckery post Ww1.
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Lord_Shadow
05/25/18 1:17:11 AM
#48:


DaronAcemoglu posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...

I'm not selfish I just rather Advance the interests of my countrymen rather than some random f*** in some random country that I have no interest in.

So you will bomb the crap out of someone but then not help them because they aren't american.

Yeah, you're an awful person.

If we are bombing someone I imagine we have a reason behind it like they are our enemy in which case I ask why would I want to help them how does that help the US?
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DaronAcemoglu
05/25/18 1:18:38 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
If we are bombing someone I imagine we have a reason behind it like they are our enemy in which case I ask why would I want to help them how does that help the US?

random civilians are not our enemy.

Holy shit you are awful.

I'm blocking you.
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Dash_Harber
05/25/18 1:19:28 AM
#50:


DaronAcemoglu posted...
we actually do have a duty to people in Iraq and Afghanistan

we invaded and fucked up their countries


I agree, but even if we put the morals aside, pretty much every academic study indicates that immigration is a massive boon to a country in almost all cases. Even pragmatically, it makes a huge difference. From a realpolitik standpoint, it also weakens extremists groups like ISIS because people that move assimilate in like a generation or two.
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