Board 8 > Final Fantasy Brave Exvius Topic: Saved from the Purge

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voltch
07/25/18 3:33:07 AM
#456:


But aren't they like really limited?
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Fiyun
07/25/18 3:40:24 AM
#457:


It takes effort.

To give an idea from KM(Using FF4's latest one) :

1k/150k/300k for each "stub".
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Fiyun
07/25/18 6:07:07 AM
#458:


Sweet!

Free daily dropped my pal Olive. Only took a year and a half.

90% blue dropped Goken, making it my first gold on one.

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The Mana Sword
07/25/18 6:49:31 AM
#459:


7* will make me feel less bad about pulling on this banner
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RaidenZeroX
07/25/18 7:16:17 AM
#460:


Lucavi000 posted...
Data mine shows that UOC tickets in the Squall event are possibly being changed to 50% rainbow tickets.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/91nt4h/gl_uoc_alternative_already_revealed_in_datamine/

Time to riot?


If you look at the top comment from Nazta now (posted 2 hours after you posted this, so obviously there was no way to see his post at the time), this has been debunked. They could still Gumi out and do it, but there would be the riots mentioned above if they did.
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Horith
07/25/18 10:07:50 AM
#461:


Should UoC actually happen, what are people planning to nab? Are you after a unit that you personally want to have, even if you don't have the best gear for them? Getting a 7* or STMR that'd be a gamechanger for you? I'm not sure I can decide. I'd adore a Fryevia just because I'm a fencer myself, and I always enjoy seeing them represented well in gaming. But long-term I know I'd get more out of getting myself something like CG Nichol or prepping myself for the future with a 7* like Sephiroth or Barbarricia.

Really can't wait for the next event. FFVIII is still my favorite, and I'm saving all my resources (as limited as they are) for pulls on that. I don't know that I'll even do dailies on Star Ocean, as I've never played any of those games.
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The Mana Sword
07/25/18 10:10:54 AM
#462:


I've wanted an Onion Knight for BiS Randi for a while, but I guess now that Fidel is coming out I wont really need one. So would just need Prishe then.
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RaidenZeroX
07/25/18 10:17:35 AM
#463:


I'm hoping that I can get 1 Hyoh so I only need to pull for another 1, but I doubt there will be enough stubs at that point. I'll probably just save them for something like Jecht or Auron and drop 2 so I can get a 7* that way. I'd like a 7* Basch (or even just 1) but I don't think he's a necessity for me at this point.
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Lucavi000
07/25/18 11:19:37 AM
#464:


I'd probably UOC a Loren for the TMR and just because her 7 star is pretty good.
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voltch
07/25/18 11:24:10 AM
#465:


Fry because I somehow still don't have one.
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Fiyun
07/25/18 11:39:04 AM
#466:


I aim for a long term investment, so either Basch or Hyoh.
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ChaosTonyV4
07/25/18 4:07:44 PM
#467:


Fry so that I can have two 7* Frys >_>

Or Raegen so I can have 7* Raegen. I've been chaining him with my Fry's and he's pretty neat.
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Wanglicious
07/25/18 4:12:55 PM
#468:


i'd probably grab someone that can get me another 7*. Sephiroth maybe? if Nier gets 7* too and they're counted, a second A2? could go Rem or Fryevia i guess, both would continue a stupidly powerful ice team i've got in mind consisting of Fry/Rem/CG Laswell/Raegen. 2/4 of that i got ready for 7* too and they chain so well.
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ChaosTonyV4
07/25/18 4:18:50 PM
#469:


Lucavi000 posted...
The american team is against UOC tickets because they feel it ruins the fun of the game.


I think a "UOC only units you already have" would be a happy medium for this, tbh.

I can see their line of thinking, that building a team with what you RNGet is part of the fun, but relying on uber RNG for 7*'s could potentially make the 7* content impossible for some people.
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The Mana Sword
07/25/18 4:24:14 PM
#470:


their first problem is thinking this game is fun
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ChaosTonyV4
07/25/18 4:27:48 PM
#471:


Oh, hush.
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Horith
07/25/18 5:12:21 PM
#472:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I can see their line of thinking, that building a team with what you RNGet is part of the fun, but relying on uber RNG for 7*'s could potentially make the 7* content impossible for some people.


This was my biggest issue with 7*, and while it's fun to look at builds based around them, the reliance on getting duplicates with an already deep pool of rare units is just too much. At some point, they're either going to need to become so generous with Lapis and tickets that your odds of being able to build a viable team skyrocket, or just give in and let you have a handful of units you pick. Yes, some people might leave because the challenge of the game is "gone" (I'd argue even with meta teams the hardest content is still a challenge), but those are likely people that didn't spend much if any money to begin with.

It's the main problem gachas have to begin with: Too much reliance on luck to be able to clear hard content. You can shore this up some with limiting how difficult the content is, but you can't easily strike a balance between making the content easy enough to keep the minnows in the game, who don't have full meta teams, and the whales who have everything and will breeze through most everything. I think FFBE strikes that balance fairly well, where the hard content is quite difficult, but not so punishing that it's impossible if you can build your strategy correctly. The videos of people clearing with 3-4* base units is proof enough of that. I personally don't have the time, patience, or skill to pull that sort of thing off even with what is by any definition a pretty strong box, and so I generally am content to wait for content to be power-crept enough that while it's still a challenge, one misplay won't cost me 50 stamina on a Trial. Usually.

It's part of why when I decided to start playing my two gacha games again, this and Puzzle and Dragons, I very quickly abandoned PAD after about a month. It just didn't feel like it had the staying power. When I left, I had some relatively meta-defined teams that could handle most content, but was lacking key subs to take on the truly difficult stuff, and there didn't seem to be anything inbetween. When I came back, it took me all of a week to figure out that I had the stuff to build two meta teams that were completely unrelated to what I had before, and steamroll a lot of the content that even now was considered a challenge. Yeah it was hard, but nothing like the Chamber of Arms or Marlboro. Nor was the gameplay any deeper when I came back.

In contrast, when I took my break from FFBE, I felt like I was at a stopping point because of my own skill, not the units in my box, and because of the time investment it would take to get back up to speed. I still pulled, and wound up getting units that made up the difference, allowing me to come back and take on challenges that still presented enough difficulty to be interesting. Even now I'm trying to figure out what I need to do to take on Marlboro, something I didn't think I could personally do when I left, but knew I had the units capable of doing it if I really invested the time.

But I'm worried about the eventual 7* meta, because at that point no amount of preparation is going to help if you don't have a solid base of 7* units. I know content strictly based around them won't come for a while, but the depth of the 5* base pool is currently wide enough that almost any rainbow has a chance of contributing (almost). In contrast, in 7*, what helps you is only whatever you get a dupe of, and that's only if their 7* is actually useful. That puts the whole game at risk to me.

Rambling done. Feel free to ignore this whole post.
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BakusaiTenketsu
07/25/18 5:42:35 PM
#473:


So when it comes to farming crysts, specifically alcrysts, does using Xon, Croft, and Pod 153 actually hinder your acquistion?

I need 20 some odd Tech Alcrysts for Xon's Awakening for that Gil Finder thing, but I find that alcrysts in general are just a pain in the ass to farm.
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Horith
07/25/18 5:50:22 PM
#474:


I run Xon with Raven's Cape and Pod, and I regularly get 20+ Alcrysts from a run of the caves.
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Lucavi000
07/25/18 5:52:03 PM
#475:


Well right now the NA version is nowhere near the JP version in terms of Lapis, rainbows and other goodies.

By this time in the JP timeline they already had UoC tickets, were practically giving away 5 star rainbow pulls and there was a literal fountain of lapis (that you didnt have to pay 7 bucks for).

Gumi is either going to have to make changes to how the game handles the upcoming 7 star stuff or literally dump heaps of lapis, 5 star tickets, gil and XP cactuars on us since it takes SO much to get 7 stars up there. They arent going to gate the content or change it so while we're all suffering to get any 7 stars, the content becomes unbeatable because we dont have access to the 7 stars fast enough to get anything done.
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Fiyun
07/26/18 6:25:54 AM
#476:


They dumped some things earlier if you make comparisons.

UoC didn't work until some time after 7* dropped.

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RaidenZeroX
07/26/18 6:28:32 AM
#477:


Terrific, now we'll start seeing people sharing a DH Dark Veritas because they can get higher stats.
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Fiyun
07/26/18 6:35:44 AM
#478:


I already hated a******s doing it with Fry....

From the list Landlord and LV got off well with further upgrades in some cases.

Brolord went from garbage post-aoe cover.

WV is pretty much the same, now with her 20 turner.

DV got a slight upgrade, but that was it. ~_~

Prishe you need 7* to bear fruit.
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crazygamer999
07/26/18 6:50:09 AM
#479:


>tech crysts, black crysts, guard crysts
AHHHHHHH MORE GRINDING
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Fiyun
07/26/18 8:45:48 AM
#480:


It's up.
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crazygamer999
07/26/18 8:46:36 AM
#481:


Not for me :s
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Fiyun
07/26/18 8:49:56 AM
#482:


:/

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Tickets are up.

Let's see how hard Raiden will beat me:

91 3* tickets
9 4* tickets

(How oddly exact.)

Do not sleep on them since we have a tight window so do it asap over the weekend.
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crazygamer999
07/26/18 8:52:56 AM
#483:


I do appreciate the 9's :3
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RaidenZeroX
07/26/18 8:58:04 AM
#484:


I need to re-examine my spending

191 3*
19 4*

If my math is right, that's 955,000 lapis. Now I'm wishing the wife and I made less money so I wouldn't have so much extra sitting there to pump into this game. Even though I only bought the fountain in the last few months, I still feel terrible!
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crazygamer999
07/26/18 9:01:58 AM
#485:


38 and 3 for me.

Surprisingly I dumped at least 190k lapis. Huh.
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Fiyun
07/26/18 9:08:05 AM
#486:


Sounds about right.

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The Mana Sword
07/26/18 9:31:15 AM
#487:


I got 95 3* and 9 4*

Good lord
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FFDragon
07/26/18 9:34:19 AM
#488:


31/3

that f2p life
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The Mana Sword
07/26/18 9:37:03 AM
#489:


I look forward to adding 95 blues and 9 golds to my collection tomorrow
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Horith
07/26/18 9:47:52 AM
#490:


26 3* and 2 4* for me. Can't say I'm surprised, I haven't poured a lot into this game, and I only started a year ago.
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crazygamer999
07/26/18 9:50:39 AM
#491:


Also, 7* lunera with one of my anni tickets
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Fiyun
07/26/18 9:51:21 AM
#492:


Nice!

Hopefully you get to see things get really hurt.
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The Mana Sword
07/26/18 9:57:35 AM
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