Board 8 > Survivor Crew Ranks The Survivor Seasons

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Underleveled posted...

Morgan didn't "need" to be asked a question any more than any of the other early boots. I hate him, but Bradley would've been ahead of her in line.

That's cause Andy is in love with her.
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GTM posted...

I guess lol can apply to both morgans

This is one of the dumbest things I've read in one of these topics. Morgan could've won Ghost Island had that stupid swap not happened. Several players have said so, including Wendell.

I will defend her until the end and you guys know that so you better not cross me.
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yes... 9 days in and she would not have made a single mistake or been on the wrong side of the numbers for any of the votes for the remaining 30 days in the game. But you know Morgan could've won the game but you know that damn swap. You know, the things that happen almost every season.

And even then she could have been safe, if she sticks with Angela and votes against the Malolo she is safe in the rock draw! Morgan was NOT swap screwed, she did it to herself. YOU. ARE. DELUSIONAL.

KujikawaRising posted...

I will defend her until the end and you guys know that so you better not cross me.

lol is this some form of threat?!
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Almost every season there are competent players with the potential to win who get eliminated early because of twists or other bad luck.

That's a big part of the reason why some degree of luck has to be attributed to every winner.
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We're almost out of the bottom tier... which honestly has taken me far too long to post.

#30: Worlds Apart
Average Ranking: 29.27

eaed: 21 - So this season is one where I felt like it was only okay most of the way through. Which, unlike the season below it, it never really hit that drop dead boring episode. Also, unlike people I know on this board, I was a fan of the Mike show so I was able to enjoy the end of the season.

YoRyan: 25 - ups the entry for ugliness and beyond that, is rather dull.

FBike: 27 - Do not watch Worlds Apart.

Naye745: 28 - some really great characters, which i want to give the season more credit for, but damn was there just so much unpleasantness. it's hard to argue, in retrospect, that Mike was a deserving winner relative to say Carolyn or Rodney.

GTM: 30 - people were mean on this season

DoctorBlind: 31 - Too many idols and a bad cast with little to root for results in yet another recent season ruined by production.

Illuminatus: 31 - No writeup

darkx: 31 - This season had a lot of dramatic moments, and, for better or worse, almost everyone in the cast brought something to the table with, I'll say maybe one dud. But, like South Pacific, the whole thing had a very nasty vibe to it, with a few people taking things to a whole new level of "too far," including one particular episode that got way too real. Oh, and this one also had a very predictable winner. That's always nice. Even if he WAS more electric and interesting than most such winners.

BCT: 32 - Unfortunately stained by an ass berating others for no reason and a bully trying to be funnier than he actually is, Worlds Apart brought us Rodneys amusing monologues, Jenns snark, and one of the most epic immunity runs weve ever seen. Even so, this season is memorable for the wrong reasons.

Inviso: 32 - Worlds Apart is such a shame to me, because its probably the ONE season where I can honestly say that the winner ruined the season. I dont mean that Im some sort of bitter betty who hates that someone I didnt like won and the season was totally ruined you guys. No. I mean that the person who won, and the manner in which they won, led to the editors crafting one of the most unpleasant and nasty seasons ever. There is an entire alliance made up of irredeemable characters, and after a full month (four straight episodes) of watching that alliance eliminate every single player the editors bother painting as good guys, the viewers are forced to root for the last underdog. This underdog is secretly kind of an asshole as well, so the editors double down on their efforts to paint the dominant alliance as villains. It leaves you either rooting for an underdog who caused their own predicament, or just hating the season as a whole. Im in the latter group. Its just a shame, because I think the cast was actually pretty good. If Worlds Apart had a different winner, the editors cant just half-ass the edit like they did, and the season couldve at least been mid-tier.

Mana Sword: 34 - No writeup
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spot on
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Why is Mike an asshole besides the auction or is that all you are going off of?

Outlier Stats
Illuminatus - 43
DoctorBlind - 33
Inviso - 30
YoRyan - 28
Mana Sword- 25
eaed - 22
BlueCrystalTear - 21
FBike - 15
GTM - 13
darkx - 12
Naye745 - 11
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mike was kind of a jerk at various points of camp life in blue collar, from what i remember

also the crappy people were mostly will (to shirin) and dan (to everyone); carolyn and rodney (and sierra and tyler i guess) were fine and if one of em had won i'd imagine the edit could have spun the narrative
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KujikawaRising posted...

This is one of the dumbest things I've read in one of these topics.

I've said dumber
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Yeah, Mike was kind of a dick pre-merge (hell, aside from Kelly, all of Blue Collar was). But there was also some intimidation factor, hence him getting Tyler to give him Joe's idol clue.
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The last of the bottom tier is here. Big gap between #30 and #29, and a bigger gap between #29 and #28.

This is the first entry for which only 8 people gave writeups instead of the usual 9, something that will become more common as the list goes on.

#29: All-Stars
Average ranking: 27.27

DoctorBlind: 13 - What can I say? I enjoy me some Boston Rob and seasons including returning favorites. Im a little turned off with how bitter the jury was considering the amount of hypocrisy involved, but the level of hype I remember watching this season for the first time still looms strong in my mind upon retrospection.

FBike: 20 - The one major problem with All-Stars is that no one soomed to actually know how they wanted to play the game until well after the merge.

darkx: 21 - No writeup

BCT: 23 - Started off incredibly, but once some of the most colorful personalities and best players were gone, it quickly became predictable, personal, and bland all at the same time, and dont get me started on Lexs hypocrisy, thanks.

GTM: 26 - people were mean on this season

YoRyan: 32 - ugly ass season where almost nobody walks away from it looking better

Mana Sword: 32 - no writeup

eaed: 32 - Survivor All-Stars does have its moments when it is a lot of fun but unfortunately they are just so few and far between to keep this season from becoming bottom tier. Between grind gate 2.0, Robs betrayal with Lex, Jennas mom, targeting winners, and then everything with the reunion this season is top heavy with negativity. It really comes down to rooting for a non-strategic entity in Rupert and the lesser of three evils in Jenna Lewis for me and thats just not the best boat to be in.

Naye745: 32 - managed to make me hate a lot of characters i liked the first time. the rob and amber show took over and dominated too much of the narrative. really showed off the ways an all-returnee season can fail.

Inviso: 34 - People love to bitch about Game Changers and compare it to All-Stars, but thats REALLY not a fair comparison. At least Game Changers had some fun moments and a strong winner. All-Stars brought back a bunch of genuine Survivor legends and a few wild cards, and wouldnt you know itevery single questionable casting choice made a deep run. Now, this isnt necessarily terrible. I watch these seasons and individual entities, so if someone appears a second time, Im willing to judge them based solely on that second appearance. Unfortunately, its a VERY straight-forward season, dominated by a single player. And what makes it worse is that the season never really moves beyond its boring pacing. There are a handful of EXTREMELY uncomfortable episodes, and its just s sour season overall with almost nothing positive to look forward to in it.

Illuminatus: 35 - No writeup
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Yay! Game Changers avoided the bottom tier! It's probably coming up, but still.
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Inviso posted...

Yay! Game Changers avoided the bottom tier! It's probably coming up, but still.

We have a clump of near-tied seasons coming up this weekend. Game Changers is indeed one of those seasons.
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Outliers tomorrow at work.
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bwburke94 posted...

Inviso posted...

Yay! Game Changers avoided the bottom tier! It's probably coming up, but still.

We have a clump of near-tied seasons coming up this weekend. Game Changers is indeed one of those seasons.

Damnit you're not supposed to spoil that stuff host.
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Underleveled posted...

bwburke94 posted...

Inviso posted...

Yay! Game Changers avoided the bottom tier! It's probably coming up, but still.

We have a clump of near-tied seasons coming up this weekend. Game Changers is indeed one of those seasons.

Damnit you're not supposed to spoil that stuff host.

It's pretty damn obvious, so I didn't feel like dragging it out. Same as with RI.
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It's still generally frowned upon.
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shrug, leave that choice up to whoever is hosting the list lol

all-stars is too high - the season was just very intensely not-fun: the sue and jenna quits (and the richard sexual unpleasantness), the majority of the fan faves getting tossed early, the remaining ones spending too much time worrying about their reputations and not enjoying themselves, and the rob and amber show that just felt like a foregone conclusion. it's a testament to everything that can go wrong with an all-returnee season where so many people feel like they have little to gain and everything to lose.
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I eagerly await my upcoming stint atop the outlier stats.

people were mean on this season
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DoctorBIind posted...

I eagerly await my upcoming stint atop the outlier stats.

Sorry. You're gonna have to share.

Illuminatus - 49
DoctorBlind - 49
Inviso - 35
YoRyan - 31
Mana Sword - 28
BlueCrystalTear - 27
eaed - 25
FBike - 24
darkx - 20
GTM - 16
Naye745 - 14
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Damn. Boston robbed of the spotlight. I think my list is fairly cookie-cutter from here on out.

#28: Nicaragua
Average Ranking: 24.45

YoRyan: 10 - i'm done trying to defend this season from people

Inviso: 12 - A lot of the best Survivor seasons are ones where the game gets chaotic and a bunch of power players take each other out to give the season a surprising winner. This formula isnt perfect, but it definitely works in Nicaragua. The majority of the cast is made up of interesting personalities, whether you like them or hate them, and the power shifts just enough to keep things interesting, without going overboard and forcing everyone to change alliances on an episode-by-episode basis. There is, admittedly, a moment in the mid-merge that casts an unfortunate shadow over the rest of the season, but Id still argue that by the time the endgame rolls around, the majority of the final six are fun and interesting characters that are enjoy to watch duke it out. In the end, the only real dull portion of the game is the post-swap pre-merge, but even that has its moments. Nicaraguas just a very solid season that gets over-hated for dumb reasons.

DoctorBlind: 20 - This season is all over the place. Great assortment of characters, but marred by controversy.

darkx: 20 - I'm done defending this season. I used to rank it higher and defend it as a character-focused season as opposed to a strategy-focused season, but upon rewatch, it actually IS a more strategy-focused season. Just really, really terrible strategy. Also one of the most God-awful self-righteous alliances in Survivor history dominated until the last second. I'm so glad this kid who may as well have been stoned the whole time snatched it from them.

GTM: 25 - alina :3

FBike: 25 - Seriously, why was the Medallion a thing? It barely lasted long enough to matter.

Illuminatus: 28 - No writeup.

Naye745: 29 - a season defined by the biggest players getting blindsided early merge, and the people responsible immediately quitting. Fabio was a fun (but not strong) winner, and uh...Jimmy Johnson was in this season?!? yikes.

BCT: 33 - Defined by a most memorable moment of two immature bleeps quitting and a second most memorable moment of the castaways learning that fire burns wood, this season has absolutely nothing good going for it except for Hollys story arc and the Marty-Jane rivalry. And even then, thats not enough. This cast is just too hard to like.

Mana Sword: 33 - No writeup

eaed: 34 - To share the same bullet points I used for my bottom ranked season. This season only hit two of them. I didnt enjoy the characters. The fan favorites from this season I didnt like (especially Jane and Brenda) then lets not forget NaOnka is an overwhelmingly dark presence on the entire season and then unlike other dark presences, she never does get her comeuppance. The season has some bright moments but not enough to make me like it more than other seasons.
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congrats blindy
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Oh, I forgot that people have terrible opinions on this season.
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I dont think you forgot.
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GTM posted...

I dont think you forgot.

Anyways Outlier Stats!

DoctorBlind - 57
Inviso - 51
Illuminatus - 49
YoRyan - 49
Mana Sword - 33
BlueCrystalTear - 32
eaed - 31
darkx - 28
FBike - 27
GTM - 19
Naye745 - 15
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Also, all of the Survivor Dark Ages have now been eliminated.
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Huh. I thought Nicaragua was more popular than that. Weird.

The MacGuffin of Power was such a waste of a twist. And, honestly, I didn't like that cast all that much. The only ones I did were Alina, Marty, and Holly. I liked Brenda a LOT more in Caramoan until Day 39.

But really, what do I take away from that season? Not much good. I didn't expect anyone to rank Nicaragua so highly.

FYI, I rank seasons the same way Dalton Ross does: By the positives I look back upon. I don't agree with his rankings on everything, obviously, but I like the method he uses.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Also, all of the Survivor Dark Ages have now been eliminated.

Philippines is considered part of the Dark Age. Just a damn good season that got stuck in the Dark Age.
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Underleveled posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

Also, all of the Survivor Dark Ages have now been eliminated.

Philippines is considered part of the Dark Age. Just a damn good season that got stuck in the Dark Age.

100% agreed - Philippines stood out more in part because of the other five being mediocre.

The First Dark Age is 21-26. The Second Dark Age is 34-present.
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No, Philippines was a legit amazing season. But you cant say 21-24+26 was the Dark Age and 25+27-whenever was something else.
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Well then we have awhile cause I have Philippines high
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I fully expect Philippines to be in the top 10.
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BlueCrystalTear posted...

The only ones I did were... Holly

Oh, I forgot that people have terrible opinions on this season.
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Holly had a very compelling story, which stood out in that cast. That's all.
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I will be against her until the end and you guys know that so you better not cross me.

(I love you andy :) )
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Nicaragua was one of the first seasons I soured on quickly, and stayed down at the finish and beyond.
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#27: Fiji
Average Ranking: 24.27

Inviso: 16 - Fiji is a negative season. I wont deny that. There is a lot of nastiness involved, and the final tribal council is gross on many fronts. But Fiji is also one of those instances where a nasty season can also be an interesting season. Once you get through the pre-swap portion of the season, which weeds out a bunch of bland fodder, Fijis cast really shines. Theres a ton of drama pre-merge with big characters taking potshots at one another, and this season introduces the modern variant of the hidden immunity idol, which actually leads to two amazing moments (including one of the greatest tribal councils the show has ever had.) And despite all the negativity, the winner actually leaves the viewer feeling satisfied, unlike some other negative seasons. So while Im not gonna praise it as one of the best seasons ever, its still a strong addition to the series.

Mana Sword: 17 - No writeup

eaed: 19 - This is another one of my candidates for screwing up my outlier score. I have more fun than I should watching Survivor Fiji. It is overshadowed as a season for a twist that doesnt work out it terms of fairness (but works pretty good for TV) and then the Truck thing but I enjoy it nevertheless.

Naye745: 20 - another one i'd imagine will be seen as too high by most people. i loved the Earl and Yau-Man alliance and thought their success around the nitwits and jerks of the season was a blast to watch. Michelle got screwed, and Dreamz was an idiot, but you can't deny how great the Edgargo blindside tribal (and the immediate smug-to-shocked reactions) holds up, even 22 seasons later.

YoRyan: 23 - not so great pre merge is saved by an exciting and dramatic post merge

Illuminatus: 24 - no writeup

darkx: 26 - A cast that mostly ranged from varying levels of boring to downright detestable with a couple of gems. The Haves vs. Have Nots twist was one of the worst in Survivor history and I can't believe the producers thought it was going to go any way other than the way it went. I will admit that it improved toward the end with one of the greatest blindsides of all time and one of the most controversial deals ever made on the show.

BCT: 29 - The first five episodes are among the series worst, largely since the Moto tribe is among the least likable ever (exacerbated by the horrific twist). On the good side, theres an epic blindside in one of the best episodes ever makes things temporarily interesting, a car deal that leads to a fascinating ending, and a deserving winner. Its not terrible by any means, but one amazing episode doesnt stand up to entire amazing seasons. Also, Yau-Man.

FBike: 29 - This season is too unbalanced to be watchable. Production had to scramble to make this season, and it shows.

GTM: 31 - haves vs have nots is stupid. bottle was stupid. life is stupid

DoctorBlind: 33 - I think Im still turned off by Dreamz and his lack of character to rank this season any higher.
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wow Fiji haters
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bwburke94 posted...

bottle was stupid

And also not in this season.
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Underleveled posted...

bwburke94 posted...

bottle was stupid

And also not in this season.

The bottle sent Moto to tribal council after they won immunity, because otherwise they had to give up their camp.
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Inviso posted...

The bottle sent Moto to tribal council after they won immunity, because otherwise they had to give up their camp.

That was a last-minute thing, most likely. Production didn't anticipate the obvious of the haves just steamrolling the have-nots. They thought the have-nots would "be highly motivated to win" while the haves would "take it easy with their cushy life." Uh, hello? You can't motivate yourself that well if you don't have enough energy to do it.

So yeah, that bottle was created as a way to send Moto to Tribal in hopes that it would cause fractures to appear in that tribe. When it didn't work, they swapped.
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Yeah Fiji was such a mess but the end result was pretty outstanding. I appreciate all the clowns and goons getting their appropriate comeuppance. There's another season that follows a similar path, has a less satisfying winner, and is going to end up way higher (!) that follows a similar trajectory and I'm not sure why Fiji gets dinged for it so hard.
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Naye745 posted...

Yeah Fiji was such a mess but the end result was pretty outstanding. I appreciate all the clowns and goons getting their appropriate comeuppance. There's another season that follows a similar path, has a less satisfying winner, and is going to end up way higher (!) that follows a similar trajectory and I'm not sure why Fiji gets dinged for it so hard.

You'll have to tell us what this is when it comes up...
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Underleveled posted...

And also not in this season.

oops
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Inviso posted...

The bottle sent Moto to tribal council after they won immunity, because otherwise they had to give up their camp.

evidently not the bottle i was thinking of!
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fiji below cook islands lol k
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