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eaedwards6400
07/26/18 7:02:04 PM
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The Playerlist
1. Alakazamtrainer
2. Ashetan
3. ChaosTonyV4
4. Corrik
5. DoomTheGyarados (Chris)
6. FakeAccount3000
7. Dowolf (formerly MZero (formerly IGCD) )
8. Meow1000 (Blade)
9. ScareChan (formerly Nana)
10. pjbasis
11. red13n
12. TheSultanOfSlam

THE DEAD
[LD1] 5tarscream - Elmyra Duff, TINYTOON Hugger
[NK1] masterplum - Dizzy Devil, TINYTOON Dizzy
[LD2] Forceful_Dragon - Buster Bunny, TINYTOONS Detective
[NK2] ColZach - Gogo Dodo, TINYTOONS Insane Jack of All Trades (Cop, Doctor, 1-Shot Vig)

REMINDER: While losing sucks, please try to be a good sport when you are killed. While real life may be tough, it is just a game. Overall, just be nicer to each other. Attempt to say something nice about someone else today!

DAY ENDS AT 11PM EST FRIDAY THE 27TH or WHEN 7 VOTES ARE REACHED!

Votals
[2] Ashe - (Corrik), Tony, Red
[1] dowolf - corrik
[0] Corrik - (Sultan)
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Alakazamtrainer
07/26/18 7:03:48 PM
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pjbasis
07/26/18 7:07:23 PM
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I've not heard a reason Scare is thought to be town yet.
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RogueNoble
07/26/18 7:18:29 PM
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Meow1000
07/26/18 7:37:55 PM
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pjbasis posted...
I've not heard a reason Scare is thought to be town yet.


There really aren't any good ones

The problem is there aren't very many good reasons for being certain on anyone this game

And Tony seriously where did your fire go
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ColZach
07/26/18 7:42:12 PM
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turbopuns2
07/26/18 7:42:54 PM
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TheSultanOfSlam
07/26/18 7:53:07 PM
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pjbasis posted...
I've not heard a reason Scare is thought to be town yet.


I agree
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TheSultanOfSlam
07/26/18 7:54:38 PM
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Okay so here comes my first post in a while after catching up. So it seems like everyone is kind of thinking that. Pj or ashe is scum. And a few people are also on scare but the real question who is the scummiest scum of the scum?
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Alakazamtrainer
07/26/18 7:57:09 PM
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Okay so here comes my first post in a while after catching up. So it seems like everyone is kind of thinking that. Pj or ashe is scum. And a few people are also on scare but the real question who is the scummiest scum of the scum?


You are.... jk

Ashe in my honset opinion
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pjbasis
07/26/18 8:08:14 PM
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...
So it seems like everyone is kind of thinking that. Pj or ashe is scum.


Scare tried this tactic yesterday...interesting
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TheSultanOfSlam
07/26/18 8:11:14 PM
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Yeah ashe is interesting here are my thoughts on the whole exchange against red. So he basically is saying that red is scum because he is playing the game and looking deeper into things today then he did yesterday.

His big thing being hey look red changed his list of who he thinks is scum that's so odd.. but is it really that odd? I've seen people make changes to their list and explained it well and people who haven't changed them since day 1. Red points out hey ashe I totally explained my reasoning behind my changes. I went back and reread the reasons and it makes sense. Ashe trys to make the same points again and not only gets shut down by red but a few others as well. Ashe is a really strong option to be scum.

Looking back even further. Ashe has been playing they oh crap my name came up let me make up so bs story about the person who voted me. He has done this a few different times if I remember correctly.
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Leafeon13N
07/26/18 8:11:57 PM
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Okay so here comes my first post in a while after catching up. So it seems like everyone is kind of thinking that. Pj or ashe is scum. And a few people are also on scare but the real question who is the scummiest scum of the scum?


I'm going to again remind you any sort of split of votes in all likelihood ends in a town loss. We have to lynch together.
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TheSultanOfSlam
07/26/18 8:13:04 PM
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pjbasis posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
So it seems like everyone is kind of thinking that. Pj or ashe is scum.


Scare tried this tactic yesterday...interesting


And yet it really hasn't changed. So if it's a consistancy maybe you need to explain why you Pj arent scum. You arent on my list if you go back and read and that's because I haven't seen what apparently other people have
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Corrik
07/26/18 8:18:35 PM
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Yeah ashe is interesting here are my thoughts on the whole exchange against red. So he basically is saying that red is scum because he is playing the game and looking deeper into things today then he did yesterday.

His big thing being hey look red changed his list of who he thinks is scum that's so odd.. but is it really that odd? I've seen people make changes to their list and explained it well and people who haven't changed them since day 1. Red points out hey ashe I totally explained my reasoning behind my changes. I went back and reread the reasons and it makes sense. Ashe trys to make the same points again and not only gets shut down by red but a few others as well. Ashe is a really strong option to be scum.

Looking back even further. Ashe has been playing they oh crap my name came up let me make up so bs story about the person who voted me. He has done this a few different times if I remember correctly.

You just said prior that red was inconsistent in his comments. Now you are saying they make sense. What???
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Leafeon13N
07/26/18 8:19:37 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Okay so here comes my first post in a while after catching up. So it seems like everyone is kind of thinking that. Pj or ashe is scum. And a few people are also on scare but the real question who is the scummiest scum of the scum?


I'm going to again remind you any sort of split of votes in all likelihood ends in a town loss. We have to lynch together.


The other part of this i guess I'll add... Most of the game is in agreement on ashe at this point, including multiple players you will eventually have to trust just due to numbers.

We still have to likely go 4 for 4 after but I'm telling, and eventually I'll probably have to start begging and pleading, that it is the best start we've got.
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TheSultanOfSlam
07/26/18 8:20:41 PM
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Corrik posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Yeah ashe is interesting here are my thoughts on the whole exchange against red. So he basically is saying that red is scum because he is playing the game and looking deeper into things today then he did yesterday.

His big thing being hey look red changed his list of who he thinks is scum that's so odd.. but is it really that odd? I've seen people make changes to their list and explained it well and people who haven't changed them since day 1. Red points out hey ashe I totally explained my reasoning behind my changes. I went back and reread the reasons and it makes sense. Ashe trys to make the same points again and not only gets shut down by red but a few others as well. Ashe is a really strong option to be scum.

Looking back even further. Ashe has been playing they oh crap my name came up let me make up so bs story about the person who voted me. He has done this a few different times if I remember correctly.

You just said prior that red was inconsistent in his comments. Now you are saying they make sense. What???


Looking back and re reading alot of the stuff and looking into replays by other people it makes sense now. And also getting it resaid in a different way helped too
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Leafeon13N
07/26/18 8:21:09 PM
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Corrik posted...

You just said prior that red was inconsistent in his comments. Now you are saying they make sense. What???


You think hes confirmed town and just tried to throw shade on him. This post should be very clear to everyone.
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Corrik
07/26/18 8:28:59 PM
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Corrik posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Yeah ashe is interesting here are my thoughts on the whole exchange against red. So he basically is saying that red is scum because he is playing the game and looking deeper into things today then he did yesterday.

His big thing being hey look red changed his list of who he thinks is scum that's so odd.. but is it really that odd? I've seen people make changes to their list and explained it well and people who haven't changed them since day 1. Red points out hey ashe I totally explained my reasoning behind my changes. I went back and reread the reasons and it makes sense. Ashe trys to make the same points again and not only gets shut down by red but a few others as well. Ashe is a really strong option to be scum.

Looking back even further. Ashe has been playing they oh crap my name came up let me make up so bs story about the person who voted me. He has done this a few different times if I remember correctly.

You just said prior that red was inconsistent in his comments. Now you are saying they make sense. What???


Looking back and re reading alot of the stuff and looking into replays by other people it makes sense now. And also getting it resaid in a different way helped too

= /

I feel like you are forgetting what you said prior a lot. This is the 2nd time it has appeared this way in the past 12 hours alone.
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pjbasis
07/26/18 8:29:37 PM
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Scare's argument "tunneling" of zach yesterday felt vapid to me then and now appears to just be setting up for today so he just say "why would I do that!?!?"

Pulling together a venn diagram of scum lists isn't scumhunting either. Smells like noncommittal bait throwing to see if a member of town decides to head in that direction.
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Corrik
07/26/18 8:30:48 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Scare's argument "tunneling" of zach yesterday felt vapid to me then and now appears to just be setting up for today so he just say "why would I do that!?!?"

Pulling together a venn diagram of scum lists isn't scumhunting either. Smells like noncommittal bait throwing to see if a member of town decides to head in that direction.

PJ, thoughts on red/Chris scum team?
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pjbasis
07/26/18 8:30:55 PM
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Corrik
07/26/18 8:31:11 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Corrik, what say you about Scare

He is town, bud.
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pjbasis
07/26/18 8:31:24 PM
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Corrik posted...
PJ, thoughts on red/Chris scum team?


Possible, but I'd rather not worry about putting the whole team together at once.
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TheSultanOfSlam
07/26/18 8:31:31 PM
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Corrik posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Corrik posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Yeah ashe is interesting here are my thoughts on the whole exchange against red. So he basically is saying that red is scum because he is playing the game and looking deeper into things today then he did yesterday.

His big thing being hey look red changed his list of who he thinks is scum that's so odd.. but is it really that odd? I've seen people make changes to their list and explained it well and people who haven't changed them since day 1. Red points out hey ashe I totally explained my reasoning behind my changes. I went back and reread the reasons and it makes sense. Ashe trys to make the same points again and not only gets shut down by red but a few others as well. Ashe is a really strong option to be scum.

Looking back even further. Ashe has been playing they oh crap my name came up let me make up so bs story about the person who voted me. He has done this a few different times if I remember correctly.

You just said prior that red was inconsistent in his comments. Now you are saying they make sense. What???


Looking back and re reading alot of the stuff and looking into replays by other people it makes sense now. And also getting it resaid in a different way helped too

= /

I feel like you are forgetting what you said prior a lot. This is the 2nd time it has appeared this way in the past 12 hours alone.


Or like i said i reread things.. and looked into it more.
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pjbasis
07/26/18 8:32:05 PM
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Corrik posted...
pjbasis posted...
Corrik, what say you about Scare

He is town, bud.


Put my mind at ease and explain to me why he's town then.
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Corrik
07/26/18 8:32:20 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Corrik posted...
PJ, thoughts on red/Chris scum team?


Possible, but I'd rather not worry about putting the whole team together at once.

I can assure you the scum team is not 2 people large. Lol
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Leafeon13N
07/26/18 8:32:48 PM
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pjbasis posted...

Pulling together a venn diagram of scum lists isn't scumhunting either. Smells like noncommittal bait throwing to see if a member of town decides to head in that direction


This board in general needs a serious endgame lecture. Cast your lot with the people you think are town.

Especially in a scenario like this where no scan is coming. Our power is all dead, no one is coming out with a foolproof answer.
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Corrik
07/26/18 8:34:06 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Corrik posted...
pjbasis posted...
Corrik, what say you about Scare

He is town, bud.


Put my mind at ease and explain to me why he's town then.

Scare and death are the two easiest players to read. They do certain things as scum which make them obvious. Scare is too active simply put and too much trying to figure out the game. As scum he lurks or idles, purposely. I had to yell at him 15 times during my game when he was scum to play alrdy. And he kept whining that idling was part of his strategy.
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pjbasis
07/26/18 8:34:24 PM
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Corrik
07/26/18 8:35:40 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Why are you even so sure it's endgame yet

Hint: Red is scum and basically let it slip there is 5 scum. We are at Mylo.

Lynching Ashe is a bad idea. That's why everyone who is against it is scum or he is telling them they are bad and need lectured endgame if not on board.

He is super transparent. He considers this game a win alrdy.
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TheSultanOfSlam
07/26/18 8:35:54 PM
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Well despite what corrik says because I do not care what he says I'm staying by what I said and will infact ##vote Ashe

I have always been suspicious of Ashe since day one so i will stick to it and ignore corrik because I dont care what he has to say about me because he is wrong
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Leafeon13N
07/26/18 8:35:56 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Why are you even so sure it's endgame yet


Error on the side of it being endgame. Because if you play like it isnt theres a better chance there is no tomorrow.
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pjbasis
07/26/18 8:37:10 PM
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Corrik posted...
He is super transparent. He considers this game a win alrdy.


Ashe or red?
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Corrik
07/26/18 8:39:26 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Corrik posted...
He is super transparent. He considers this game a win alrdy.


Ashe or red?

Red does.

You will also notice that red has called me "100% scum" yet is voting Ashe.


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Meow1000
07/26/18 8:41:22 PM
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By the way if Scare's slot is scum then Nana pretty much loses all right to any form of benefit of the doubt in future games

Like if that slot is scum and he tries anything near like he acted this game he dies no question
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pjbasis
07/26/18 8:42:35 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...

The other part of this i guess I'll add... Most of the game is in agreement on ashe at this point, including multiple players you will eventually have to trust just due to numbers.


Oh this is why you said that.

Trying to shut down individual thinking? Maybe in "proper" mafia where you can expect most players to be committed and meta-fluent I can see that being a legit strategy.

Calling on common agreement when half your voting pool plays on emotion or laziness is not a recipe for success.
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pjbasis
07/26/18 8:43:09 PM
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Meow1000 posted...

Like if that slot is scum and he tries anything near like he acted this game he dies no question


Remind me?
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Corrik
07/26/18 8:44:40 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Meow1000 posted...

Like if that slot is scum and he tries anything near like he acted this game he dies no question


Remind me?

Nana was outright insane.
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Meow1000
07/26/18 8:45:35 PM
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I didn't even think that it could be mylo guess I wasn't paying enough attention

Ashe got two really quick votes on a potential Mylo, then just froze?
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Meow1000
07/26/18 8:46:10 PM
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Corrik posted...
pjbasis posted...
Meow1000 posted...

Like if that slot is scum and he tries anything near like he acted this game he dies no question


Remind me?

Nana was outright insane.


Nana played like a Jester 99% of the time.
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pjbasis
07/26/18 8:47:34 PM
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that doesn't give me confidence in his playerslot to not be scum....
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dowolf
07/26/18 8:50:06 PM
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So. I've been thinking.

I was trying to operate under the assumption that one of Nana/Scare and Ashe is scum, since it's a decently likely chance that at least one of the top targets of the past few days is scum, and...

So let's look at the world of what happens when Ashe is town. The three people who voted him day 1, Tony, Sultan, and Red, never voted either of Nana and Star. Tony is additionally listed as casting no votes yesterday, while Sultan's in the interesting spot of voting for Nana/Scare yesterday. If one of the two is scum, that speaks well for Sultan. Red, on the other hand, voted only for the top two lynches of the day yesterday, though one of the major voters for him becomes Scare. That would be odd, all things considered. But we don't have to assume that, not necessarily...

More interestingly, though, if Ashe is town, then we had a town/town lynch yesterday in which five players did not vote: ColZach, who we know is town, plus Tony, PJ, Fake, and Ashe himself. We've assumed that Ashe is town, which suggests that the remaining three demand to be looked into.

Tony both voted for and was voted by one of my predecessors, while his only other vote was on Ashe. Yet he did not see need to vote for Ashe d2. Tony, mind explaining this?

PJ voted a lot d1, including ultimately being the deciding vote for Star. Yet d2, besides a rescinded vote for Chris, there's no activity on the log. PJ, mind explaining this?

Fake voted for Nana/Scare d1 (who also voted for them), which (if I'm right here) is more evidence that they're actually town if Ashe is town, but then never cast a vote yesterday, not even for Nana. Same question to you then, Fake: Explain please.

(tl;dr: ashe town seems to imply the worlds with Scare as town are more likely, with the actions of three non-voters d2 standing out, especially Tony's)
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ScareChan
07/26/18 8:50:46 PM
#44:


Corrik posted...
pjbasis posted...
Why are you even so sure it's endgame yet

Hint: Red is scum and basically let it slip there is 5 scum. We are at Mylo.

Lynching Ashe is a bad idea. That's why everyone who is against it is scum or he is telling them they are bad and need lectured endgame if not on board.

He is super transparent. He considers this game a win alrdy.


it can't be endgame. Jack had a shot I thought
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Corrik
07/26/18 8:52:31 PM
#45:


ScareChan posted...
Corrik posted...
pjbasis posted...
Why are you even so sure it's endgame yet

Hint: Red is scum and basically let it slip there is 5 scum. We are at Mylo.

Lynching Ashe is a bad idea. That's why everyone who is against it is scum or he is telling them they are bad and need lectured endgame if not on board.

He is super transparent. He considers this game a win alrdy.


it can't be endgame. Jack had a shot I thought

What? If Jack shoots true. He makes it 4 scum mislynches to win. If he hits town, it is still 3 mislynches. If anything the jack shot makes it likelier we are at Mylo.
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ScareChan
07/26/18 8:52:34 PM
#46:


ColZach has been killed! He was Gogo Dodo,TINYTOONS INSANE Jack of All Trades (Doctor, Cop, and 1-Shot Vig) (The INSANE part was that the power he was able to use was randomly drew every night)

Yeah it cant be endgame because town vig can speed it up one night with misfire

so unless you think game could be over by night 2
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pjbasis
07/26/18 8:53:29 PM
#47:


I only voted Star cause it felt funny to start a rush on him.

I totally also voted red D2. I ended up being two unsure and busy to place something.

I would have rescinded the starscream vote as well if I made it back before deadline.
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dowolf
07/26/18 8:54:50 PM
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you're thinking a 4-player scumteam then scare?
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Corrik
07/26/18 8:55:49 PM
#49:


ScareChan posted...
ColZach has been killed! He was Gogo Dodo,TINYTOONS INSANE Jack of All Trades (Doctor, Cop, and 1-Shot Vig) (The INSANE part was that the power he was able to use was randomly drew every night)

Yeah it cant be endgame because town vig can speed it up one night with misfire

so unless you think game could be over by night 2

Scare failing at math is funny.

11 - 5

9 - 5

7 - 5

5- 5. 3 mislynches with no shit

11 - 5

8 - 5

6 - 5

4 - 5

3 mislynches if he hits town

11 - 5

9 - 4

7 - 4

5 - 4

3 - 4

4 mislynches if he shoots scum
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dowolf
07/26/18 8:56:27 PM
#50:


pjbasis posted...

I totally also voted red D2. I ended up being two unsure and busy to place something.

So you did. I'm blind. Still, no vote at deadline.

pjbasis posted...

I would have rescinded the starscream vote as well if I made it back before deadline.

So you regret having any influence in that vote at all? Tell me, is there any decision you've made this game that you haven't regretted?
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