Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1280

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Big Bob
09/05/18 3:16:22 AM
#452:


Allen may not have even played the games, he'd probably let the character in regardless. Seigfried and Nightmare are separate characters, after all.

Still, don't nominate that person. Zero's super weak, and any real character from 999 would be even worse. Besides, Danganronpa's the new hotness. Nominate Monokuma.

(Monokuma will be high fodder at best, but I nominated him anyway.)
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ZeldaTPLink
09/05/18 8:49:50 AM
#453:


Guys does anyone have that match pic of Ditto vs Crono that shows Crono with the Ditto eyes?
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ZenOfThunder
09/05/18 8:50:59 AM
#454:


yes I made it hold on lemme dig it up

EDIT: IdBI6Mt
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Advokaiser
09/05/18 10:25:04 AM
#455:


LeonhartFour posted...
Guru noms are confirmed now

1. Aqua (Kingdom Hearts)
2. Victor Sullivan (Uncharted)

they're both on the auto-fill list now


Is this true? I haven't seen Dp nor BK posting anything yet.
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AxemRedRanger
09/05/18 10:26:41 AM
#456:


Advokaiser posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
Guru noms are confirmed now

1. Aqua (Kingdom Hearts)
2. Victor Sullivan (Uncharted)

they're both on the auto-fill list now


Is this true? I haven't seen Dp nor BK posting anything yet.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/76968149
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Advokaiser
09/05/18 12:15:51 PM
#457:


Thanks!
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LusterSoldier
09/06/18 12:26:54 AM
#458:


So after slightly over 1 day into the nomination process, there hasn't been much discussion regarding fictional characters who have appeared in video games. The nomination form does not specifically mention that characters must have originated in video games. However, Allen hasn't said a word regarding these types of characters, perhaps as a way to avoid drawing attention to their eligibility (or lack of). Had Allen said that all video game characters were eligible, I think there would have been a bigger push to get fictional characters into the contest.

Up to this point so far, only Goku, Vegeta, Cell, and Spider-Man have been the subject of discussion regarding their first video game appearance. However, no one has talked about Batman, Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker, or Han Solo yet, so I did some research of my own on those 4 characters.

First game for the following characters:

Batman - Batman: The Video Game
Darth Vader - Star Wars (1983)
Luke Skywalker - Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (1982)
Han Solo - Star Wars (1987)

For Batman, there were 2 Batman games released in 1986, but they were never released in the US. So the first real Batman game for the US would have been the NES/Genesis/Game Boy release in 1990, which what I chose to list here. The first ever Batman game was a 1986 game titled "Batman: The Caped Crusader", but it was only released in Europe.

For the Star Wars characters, it was a bit more challenging to figure out their first game because the first Star Wars games were from the time of the Atari 2600. Some of the older games don't even have any FAQs for them on this site, meaning I had to consult Wikipedia for more information on some of the super early games. For Darth Vader, his first game is simply titled "Star Wars" and there are other unrelated Star Wars games that share the same title, so it was necessary to specify "Star Wars (1983)" to differentiate between the 1983 self-titled game and other games that are titled "Star Wars". A similar issue exists with Luke Skywalker's first game, as there is a second game titled "Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back" that is unrelated to the 1982 game.

Although I feel pretty confident regarding the first game for Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker, I'm far less certain about Han Solo. I opted to put down "Star Wars (1987)" as Han Solo's first game despite that game being a Japan only release. Unless someone else can find an earlier game that features Han Solo, then I'll stick with "Star Wars (1987)".
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LusterSoldier
09/06/18 3:12:13 AM
#459:


LusterSoldier posted...
First game for the following characters:

Batman - Batman: The Video Game


Somehow I totally overlooked the Joker for some reason. But yeah, the Joker could be nominated under the same game as well.
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NowItsAngeTime
09/06/18 3:51:54 AM
#460:


what about Goku and Vegeta
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LusterSoldier
09/06/18 4:06:58 AM
#461:


NowItsAngeTime posted...
what about Goku and Vegeta


Goku - Dragon Ball GT: Final Bout
Vegeta - Dragon Ball GT: Final Bout

There is a game called "Dragon Power" that could be said to be the first ever Dragon Ball game, but the name "Dragon Power" is only used for the US release. The Japanese/European version uses the "Dragon Ball" name in the title. Also, the US version has a fairly good number of changes from the Japanese/European version that some people who played the US version don't even know it's a Dragon Ball game. For that reason, it wouldn't really be fair to list "Dragon Power" for Goku's first ever game.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/nes/587245-dragon-power/data
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shane15
09/06/18 4:43:19 AM
#462:


I wanna see Squall made a big run this contest but he'll probably get fed to Cloud.
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LusterSoldier
09/06/18 7:03:26 AM
#463:


Here's the full character suggestion database as of right now:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lUECBn74hCFqiGhsXKmGNBpjPf7WQOGYzA4Z4-aIo18/pub

The first 361 characters were added prior to the nomination form going up, since the 361 characters are in alphabetical order. The remaining 34 characters were added on the same day. No new characters have been added after the first day of nominations.
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LeonhartFour
09/06/18 10:40:48 AM
#464:


shane15 posted...
I wanna see Squall made a big run this contest but he'll probably get fed to Cloud.


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swirIdude
09/06/18 10:48:06 AM
#465:


If the additions are based on nominations, then we're about to get Overwatched very hard, plus Ryuji and Morgana are more popular than I realized.
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LeonhartFour
09/06/18 10:51:58 AM
#466:


Nah, some of those were in there from the start, too. They were probably added after the initial setup because 2B was there already when I nominated her, and I did so literally within a couple minutes of SBAllen posting the link.

I imagine from Guile down is what's been added based on number of noms, which is good news for Roy and K. Rool, I guess.
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shane15
09/06/18 11:01:47 AM
#467:


If we're getting more than Joker from P5 i really hope it's not those 2. I mean come on Ryuji and Morgana really?
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Advokaiser
09/06/18 3:28:32 PM
#468:


Has Chun-Li ever been in a contest before? She's the third most popular SF character, as far as I'm concerned.
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SwiftyDC
09/06/18 3:30:57 PM
#469:


Advokaiser posted...
Has Chun-Li ever been in a contest before? She's the third most popular SF character, as far as I'm concerned.


Yup. I believe the Females bracket was her first entry?
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LeonhartFour
09/06/18 3:38:48 PM
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shane15
09/06/18 3:54:44 PM
#471:


I see notastefaqs strikes again with her beating Kasumi.
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LeonhartFour
09/06/18 4:00:30 PM
#472:


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shane15
09/06/18 4:12:48 PM
#473:


I've never really got the appeal of her personally. All the other fighting game flagship females are better than her tbh
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ZenOfThunder
09/06/18 4:19:51 PM
#474:


dude Chun-Li is the best, way better design than most other flagship females (except Morrigan and maybe Mai)
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Zylothewolf
09/06/18 4:28:23 PM
#475:


Cammy > Chun Li.
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LeonhartFour
09/06/18 4:30:59 PM
#476:


I'd be down with getting Cammy into the contest too

but the people chose Guile this year
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SwiftyDC
09/06/18 8:09:52 PM
#477:


Red XIII has never made it in?
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Lightning Strikes
09/06/18 8:25:50 PM
#478:


As a total aside, I was thinking today that Mega Man is probably going to be pretty beastly this contest. He's had Smash Bros., Mega Man 11, a bunch of high profile releases and has a lot of goodwill towards him.
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Big Bob
09/06/18 8:41:19 PM
#479:


I'd say Mega Man will do about as well as he did last contest, which to be fair, was pretty good. I don't see a reason for him to boost, but at the very least he's not aging as badly as Crono.
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Haste_2
09/06/18 8:44:32 PM
#480:


I sure hope Mega Man boosts, but he did well in the last contest because I think he was already announced for Smash Bros. 4 at that time. (right?) So he probably won't boost much, if at all, but who knows?
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AxemRedRanger
09/06/18 9:16:15 PM
#481:


Mega Man is already strong enough that I don't see a boost doing much for him even if he got one.

Also, we just had a poll a few days ago and people were not hyped about Mega Man 11 at all.
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Big Bob
09/06/18 9:38:22 PM
#482:


Actually, I'm gonna go ahead and talk about the NN's potential compared to the last contest.

Mario - better. I mean, he lost to Vivi last time, can't get much worse than that. Mario Odyssey, and Nintendo in general, are doing well.
Samus - neutral. Metroid: Samus Returns was decent, and the (absent) Metroid Prime 4 will keep her relevant, but not better than last time.
Snake - worse. MGSV wasn't a huge hit, and Konami as a whole is on the backburner. All he's got going for him at this point is Smash.
Cloud - neutral. He's got Smash, and S-E has regained some popularity.
Crono - worse. He's been fading into obscurity for a while. I wouldn't be surprised to see him lose to an upper midcarder this year.
Sephiroth - neutral. Again, S-E seems to be doing alright.
Mega Man - neutral. see my last post
Sonic - neutral. Sonic Mania gave him some much needed hype, but I'm still not sure he could win a rematch against Mewtwo.

Link - bee oh tee double-you
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LeonhartFour
09/06/18 10:13:39 PM
#483:


Big Bob posted...
All he's got going for him at this point is Smash.


And the hype that he was coming back was pretty big. Snake won't be worse.

Cloud definitely won't be neutral since he wasn't even in Smash before the last contest.
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Team Rocket Elite
09/06/18 10:15:08 PM
#484:


There's also FF7R which probably helps Cloud more while being in development than if it actually got released.
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LeonhartFour
09/06/18 10:17:09 PM
#485:


Eh, I don't know that FF7R helps him too much right now while it's in development limbo. The bad press surrounding it won't do him any favors.
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pjbasis
09/06/18 10:22:08 PM
#486:


Its really great we got no contests during the weakest Nintendo era
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SwiftyDC
09/06/18 10:24:09 PM
#487:


Snake has a movie in development, right?
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abdou
09/06/18 10:25:51 PM
#488:


But movies based on games rarely do well
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LeonhartFour
09/06/18 10:37:19 PM
#489:


pjbasis posted...
Its really great we got no contests during the weakest Nintendo era


We had two and Nintendo didn't win either one!
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Lightning Strikes
09/07/18 3:16:19 AM
#490:


AxemRedRanger posted...
Mega Man is already strong enough that I don't see a boost doing much for him even if he got one.

Also, we just had a poll a few days ago and people were not hyped about Mega Man 11 at all.


I dunno about that last part, it did come third in a poll that was dominated by the top two.
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shane15
09/07/18 5:14:22 AM
#491:


I would love to see Chrono get bodied by Squall.
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bwburke94
09/07/18 6:22:09 AM
#492:


The fact that people still don't know how to spell "Crono" is a bad sign for him.
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ctesjbuvf
09/07/18 7:25:33 AM
#493:


Crono Trigger being incredible last contest definitely gives me hope for Crono.
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bwburke94
09/07/18 7:31:54 AM
#494:


You're doing it on purpose, aren't you?
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LinkMarioSamus
09/07/18 8:27:35 AM
#495:


Crono might have stabilized.

I firmly believe that even at the times where Crono was a lower-rung Noble Niner, his game was stronger than any post-1998 game. Like, what games released after CT would it have lost to in 2009? Probably only FF7, RBY, Mario 64, and Ocarina.

I just realized that Half-Life 2 is as old now as Chrono Trigger was back then. How time flies.
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AxemRedRanger
09/07/18 3:43:47 PM
#496:


Lightning Strikes posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
Mega Man is already strong enough that I don't see a boost doing much for him even if he got one.

Also, we just had a poll a few days ago and people were not hyped about Mega Man 11 at all.


I dunno about that last part, it did come third in a poll that was dominated by the top two.

barely beating soulcalibur vi in the process
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LeonhartFour
09/07/18 4:19:19 PM
#497:


well there have also been MM Classic and MMX collections released recently so it might get people nostalgic about him
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Advokaiser
09/07/18 8:49:25 PM
#498:


If Goku somehow gets in, I'd love to see it rSFF Crono.
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09/07/18 8:50:33 PM
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