Board 8 > Weight Loss topic?

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I have been trending really poorly, like heaviest I have been in a few years and I just have to make changes.

Its to the point where I am actually thinking about doing the surgery... but I really do not want to

so this is my last push to try and get shit under control. And if not I will go under the knife

Whats everyons workout music looking like these days
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Liposuction is a stupid idea. You'll lose all that weight, then be tempted to gain it all back in five years. Don't do it - you need to change your habits instead.

Here are some tips:
Count calories. No need to keep a diary - just guesstimate!
Walk a LOT, but also do ball crunches, yoga, weight lifting, or something else that'll strengthen your core.
Portion control. Tell yourself you don't really need that fifth slice of pizza and keep it to four. Then, after a month or two, say you don't really need that fourth slice of pizza and keep it to three.

What I do is I try to limit myself to 1,000 calories two days a week while shooting for 2,500 four other days while not letting myself go above 3,000 the seventh. Those numbers will eventually be 800, 2,000, and 2,500, with one 3,000 calorie day a month.

I actually don't listen to music while I walk. I people watch. All you have to do is walk in a place where there are a lot of people around, but it isn't like a mob or place where people have zero mindfulness.
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No not liposuction. Gastric
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Knocked out 16 minutes for half mile at 7.5 in line on treadmill and 1.5 miles in 10 minutes on level 5 bike. Did a 3 minute quarter on elliptical and my heart rate was going too fast so I just did weights after

It's a start
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And yeah portion control is a big thing and my main focus. I am cutting sweets cold Turkey and need yo limit sodas a ton
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Ive been Keto since the beginning of June.

It naturally cut my appetite hella back, which is making it super easy to cut calories at the same time.
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I limit my sodas (I average only one a week) and weight loss is still a struggle for me. I am already at 43,100 steps after four days this week, but I seem to have tired myself out.

A gastric bypass surgery won't help if you don't have the right mental attitude, either. You need to do more than just have a surgery and assume it'll all work out. You have to show a willingness to change. How much does that operation cost, anyway? Will your health insurance cover most of it?
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I disagree. Gastric surgery will make you lose weight matter what your attitude is. That's the whole point of it
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Dude you don't even need to exercise. Yes OF COURSE it helps and it's healthy anyways but it's simple

Calories in vs calories out

I could lose weight eating mcdonalds every day as long as I was in a caloric deficit. Pretty easy.
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Going on Keto in about a week.

Been trying coffee all week and every black coffee tastes the same, it seems. Probably just have to develop a taste
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Start this on monday.
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BlueCrystalTear posted...

Liposuction is a stupid idea. You'll lose all that weight, then be tempted to gain it all back in five years. Don't do it - you need to change your habits instead.

He means bariatric surgery. Not lipo.
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Healthy way to lose weight is to strength train in addition to some cardio and core exercise, lower your carbs/saturated fats/sugars, watch your calories, and eat healthier. Portion control always helps for lowering calories. But also look at the nutrition labels when you can. When you see how unhealthy some of the stuff you eat is, how large the sugar and saturated fat content is, you will probably want to eat much less of it.
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Tekashi69 posted...

Dude you don't even need to exercise. Yes OF COURSE it helps and it's healthy anyways but it's simple

Calories in vs calories out

I could lose weight eating mcdonalds every day as long as I was in a caloric deficit. Pretty easy.

I disagree with saying "just do calories in vs. calories out". Yeah, calories in vs. calories out technically works, but if you purposefully eat way less to cut your calories, you'll end up getting hungry, and next thing you know you're eating way more to make up for your hunger. And your metabolism won't work as hard if you're not taking in food. Saying calories in vs. calories out often makes someone think they just need to eat less, but the truth is they need to eat better food.

Don't worry about starving yourself, just eat something with less calories and better nutrients. There's plenty of ways to eat a good, filling meal with less than 600 calories. A lot of fast food won't fill you up until you've eaten 1000 calories worth. For example, eat 3 McChickens from McDonald's and you're already up around 1000. A patty melt from Whataburger (this is only a thing in the south I think) is around 1000 calories. So don't just watch your calories; eat filling meals that are healthier. You'll probably end up cutting your calories while eating the same amount of food.
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Solioxrz362 posted...

Tekashi69 posted...

Dude you don't even need to exercise. Yes OF COURSE it helps and it's healthy anyways but it's simple

Calories in vs calories out

I could lose weight eating mcdonalds every day as long as I was in a caloric deficit. Pretty easy.

I disagree with saying "just do calories in vs. calories out". Yeah, calories in vs. calories out technically works, but if you purposefully eat way less to cut your calories, you'll end up getting hungry, and next thing you know you're eating way more to make up for your hunger. And your metabolism won't work as hard if you're not taking in food. Don't worry about starving yourself, just eat something with less calories and better nutrients. There's plenty of ways to eat a good, filling meal with less than 600 calories. A lot of fast food won't fill you up until you've eaten 1000 calories worth. For example, eat 3 McChickens from McDonald's and you're already up around 1000. A patty melt from Whataburger (this is only a thing in the south I think) is around 1000 calories. So don't just watch your calories; eat filling meals that are healthier.

True but not true. To be fat, you have to be overeating significantly. You won't be hungry to eat less. Starve yourself one day to reset yourself then just go by calories.
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Eat more fat, eat less carbs.
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no offense Andy but I think you are more ignorant thank you think on a lot of what you said. Not ignorant as an insult like by definition of just not knowing

the gastric bypass needs a decent amount of willpower but the sleeve is more common now and it literally cuts out the hormone that makes you hungry
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ScareChan posted...

no offense Andy but I think you are more ignorant thank you think on a lot of what you said. Not ignorant as an insult like by definition of just not knowing

the gastric bypass needs a decent amount of willpower but the sleeve is more common now and it literally cuts out the hormone that makes you hungry

They don't use the sleeve in a lot of places anymore.

And, yes, he is correct. Gastric bypass is an operation that helps you change your diet. Basically, it makes you throw up if you overeat or feel sick if you eat wrong foods. A lot of places that do it make you do food counseling therapy afterwards to help you with this.
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Anyone here try the Whole30 diet?

I'm on Day 3. So far so good, only problem is sleeping...
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Oh where is Strife?

I want some DDP yoga suggestions to do
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Corrik posted...

ScareChan posted...

no offense Andy but I think you are more ignorant thank you think on a lot of what you said. Not ignorant as an insult like by definition of just not knowing

the gastric bypass needs a decent amount of willpower but the sleeve is more common now and it literally cuts out the hormone that makes you hungry

They don't use the sleeve in a lot of places anymore.

And, yes, he is correct. Gastric bypass is an operation that helps you change your diet. Basically, it makes you throw up if you overeat or feel sick if you eat wrong foods. A lot of places that do it make you do food counseling therapy afterwards to help you with this.

I had to attend a seminar for it and they are trying to make the Loopswitch the main one, but the sleeve is still very common.

I cant do the Loop as itis now because ofthe side effects. And I am scared of removing so much of my body like that
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Solioxrz362 posted...

Tekashi69 posted...

Dude you don't even need to exercise. Yes OF COURSE it helps and it's healthy anyways but it's simple

Calories in vs calories out

I could lose weight eating mcdonalds every day as long as I was in a caloric deficit. Pretty easy.

I disagree with saying "just do calories in vs. calories out". Yeah, calories in vs. calories out technically works, but if you purposefully eat way less to cut your calories, you'll end up getting hungry, and next thing you know you're eating way more to make up for your hunger. And your metabolism won't work as hard if you're not taking in food. Saying calories in vs. calories out often makes someone think they just need to eat less, but the truth is they need to eat better food.

Don't worry about starving yourself, just eat something with less calories and better nutrients. There's plenty of ways to eat a good, filling meal with less than 600 calories. A lot of fast food won't fill you up until you've eaten 1000 calories worth. For example, eat 3 McChickens from McDonald's and you're already up around 1000. A patty melt from Whataburger (this is only a thing in the south I think) is around 1000 calories. So don't just watch your calories; eat filling meals that are healthier. You'll probably end up cutting your calories while eating the same amount of food.

I can't even

Why worry about your calories if you just said calories in vs calories out is stupid?

How does cutting calories make you hungrier? No one said go from 2000 a day to 800. I'm talking like dropping a measly 200 off your daily REQUIRED amount.

Not hard.

Also if you're making excuses to eat more by saying stuff like "but then you'll just be hungrier" it's called willpower my dude.

Your body shape and size shows the rest of the world your lack of willpower.
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Someone do the Whole30 diet with me. I'm only one Day 3.
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The sleeve is more common than ever, I have a friend who had it done this year.

The benefit isnt just it makes you feel sick if you overeat, but your hormones are actually changed so you arent as hungry anymore.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

The sleeve is more common than ever, I have a friend who had it done this year.

The benefit isnt just it makes you feel sick if you overeat, but your hormones are actually changed so you arent as hungry anymore.

I'm glad this stuff exists to help people but in the other hand we as a human race have been around for thousands of years and only in the last century have we somehow been unable to put the fork down

Like does the sleeve also workout for you and cook healthy meals
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

The sleeve is more common than ever, I have a friend who had it done this year.

The benefit isnt just it makes you feel sick if you overeat, but your hormones are actually changed so you arent as hungry anymore.

I meant the band
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FlyingForever posted...

Your body shape and size shows the rest of the world your lack of willpower.

Talk about a misunderstanding of human physiology.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

FlyingForever posted...

Your body shape and size shows the rest of the world your lack of willpower.

Talk about a misunderstanding of human physiology.

Show me 2 men the same age. One is in great shape. The other is so morbidly obese he struggles to walk.

You're telling me we can't see who has willpower and who lacks it?
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FlyingForever posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

FlyingForever posted...

Your body shape and size shows the rest of the world your lack of willpower.

Talk about a misunderstanding of human physiology.

Show me 2 men the same age. One is in great shape. The other is so morbidly obese he struggles to walk.

You're telling me we can't see who has willpower and who lacks it?

Did you consider differences in metabolism and/or the existence of chronic injuries or diseases?
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I fell off my routine. I lost my motivation when my weight actually went up during my monthly weigh-ins at work. My cousin, on the other hand, found a routine and lost a bunch of weight. That should be motivation, right?

Maybe I wasn't doing this right. There's a button labeled Weight Loss on the treadmills at the gym. I'll try pushing that instead of walking, see how that works out.

Solioxrz362 posted...

Don't worry about starving yourself, just eat something with less calories and better nutrients. There's plenty of ways to eat a good, filling meal with less than 600 calories. A lot of fast food won't fill you up until you've eaten 1000 calories worth. For example, eat 3 McChickens from McDonald's and you're already up around 1000. A patty melt from Whataburger (this is only a thing in the south I think) is around 1000 calories. So don't just watch your calories; eat filling meals that are healthier. You'll probably end up cutting your calories while eating the same amount of food.

Gotta say, when I went from 215 to 185 I ate just as much if not more fast food during that period then any other period of my life.

I had fast food about 3 or 4 times a week for meals. My gotos were a #1 from Wendys, chicken strips at Chick-fil-A, or the homestyle chicken sandwich at McDonalds. Sometimes on the weekend I would eat hoagies (from a place that makes them giant), other fried chicken sandwiches from local shops and possibly pizza. I would get salads as the side sometimes sure, but I still ate those foods and lost weight. Oh and no I did not cut the soda. I ate the same food as ever, just less of it.

It was actually when I started to add the gym to my diet is when I no longer lost weight, rather I gained strength and muscle.
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Uglyface2 posted...

I fell off my routine. I lost my motivation when my weight actually went up during my monthly weigh-ins at work. My cousin, on the other hand, found a routine and lost a bunch of weight. That should be motivation, right?

Maybe I wasn't doing this right. There's a button labeled Weight Loss on the treadmills at the gym. I'll try pushing that instead of walking, see how that works out.

I believe weight loss thing is to help you determine your target heart rate. At a certain point you go from fat loss to cardio training so its focusing more on like having stronger endurance than burning the calories type of thing
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Uglyface2 posted...

I fell off my routine. I lost my motivation when my weight actually went up during my monthly weigh-ins at work. My cousin, on the other hand, found a routine and lost a bunch of weight. That should be motivation, right?

Maybe I wasn't doing this right. There's a button labeled Weight Loss on the treadmills at the gym. I'll try pushing that instead of walking, see how that works out.

You mean the one where you

Gasp

Run?!

NOT RUNNING

NOOOOOOOO

Please everyone don't fall for this. Weight loss is a sick thing. #healthtateverysizd

Be a bbw

Be beautiful and fat
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FlyingForever posted...

stuff

So is this guy an alt, or is he a new guy just trying to be funny?

Someone from Current Events, so that should explain enough.
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FlyingForever posted...

I can't even

Why worry about your calories if you just said calories in vs calories out is stupid?

How does cutting calories make you hungrier? No one said go from 2000 a day to 800. I'm talking like dropping a measly 200 off your daily REQUIRED amount.

Not hard.

Also if you're making excuses to eat more by saying stuff like "but then you'll just be hungrier" it's called willpower my dude.

Your body shape and size shows the rest of the world your lack of willpower.

Calories in vs. calories out isn't stupid, it's science. But just worrying about that number isn't really the right way to do it. That's a shortcut, that's the simplest answer to a much more complex dilemma. You've gotta consider more than just the number of calories in food to lose weight effectively (which is to say, not just dropping weight but staying healthy and well-nourished while doing it)

Willpower, on the other hand, doesn't exactly work to overcome anything. If your body isn't getting good nutrients because you're not taking in as much food, and the food you are taking in isn't very nourishing, then your health will decline in some way.

Now dropping calories by like 200 each day is definitely doable and it will work (most likely) but there's more efficient and effective ways to lose weight healthily.
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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...

Solioxrz362 posted...

Don't worry about starving yourself, just eat something with less calories and better nutrients. There's plenty of ways to eat a good, filling meal with less than 600 calories. A lot of fast food won't fill you up until you've eaten 1000 calories worth. For example, eat 3 McChickens from McDonald's and you're already up around 1000. A patty melt from Whataburger (this is only a thing in the south I think) is around 1000 calories. So don't just watch your calories; eat filling meals that are healthier. You'll probably end up cutting your calories while eating the same amount of food.

Gotta say, when I went from 215 to 185 I ate just as much if not more fast food during that period then any other period of my life.

I had fast food about 3 or 4 times a week for meals. My gotos were a #1 from Wendys, chicken strips at Chick-fil-A, or the homestyle chicken sandwich at McDonalds. Sometimes on the weekend I would eat hoagies (from a place that makes them giant), other fried chicken sandwiches from local shops and possibly pizza. I would get salads as the side sometimes sure, but I still ate those foods and lost weight. Oh and no I did not cut the soda. I ate the same food as ever, just less of it.

It was actually when I started to add the gym to my diet is when I no longer lost weight, rather I gained strength and muscle.

Fast food can work if you don't eat too much of it, which is absolutely doable. Tbf, I noted some extreme examples that have a ton of calories. There's plenty of good menu items at places too, and chicken sandwiches/strips are usually some of the better ones.

As I said, calories are for sure the weight determiner, but I think there's better ways to lose weight than just doing calorie counting. A lot of people don't do it right, and it's easy to mess up. Besides, some people do calorie counting in a way that defeats the purpose of weight loss. After all, the main goal of most people aiming for weight loss is better health, right? Either that or trying to prevent health issues from being overweight. Dropping the weight is one thing, but being healthy involves much more.

IMO if you were not losing weight from going to the gym, that's fine. Gaining weight in muscle mass rather than fat is great. If you're gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time, even better.
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Solioxrz362 posted...

FlyingForever posted...

I can't even

Why worry about your calories if you just said calories in vs calories out is stupid?

How does cutting calories make you hungrier? No one said go from 2000 a day to 800. I'm talking like dropping a measly 200 off your daily REQUIRED amount.

Not hard.

Also if you're making excuses to eat more by saying stuff like "but then you'll just be hungrier" it's called willpower my dude.

Your body shape and size shows the rest of the world your lack of willpower.

Calories in vs. calories out isn't stupid, it's science. But just worrying about that number isn't really the right way to do it. That's a shortcut, that's the simplest answer to a much more complex dilemma. You've gotta consider more than just the number of calories in food to lose weight effectively (which is to say, not just dropping weight but staying healthy and well-nourished while doing it)

Willpower, on the other hand, doesn't exactly work to overcome anything. If your body isn't getting good nutrients because you're not taking in as much food, and the food you are taking in isn't very nourishing, then your health will decline in some way.

Now dropping calories by like 200 each day is definitely doable and it will work (most likely) but there's more efficient and effective ways to lose weight healthily.

You're on the right track but the problem is you make it sound like rocket science.

It's simple as f

Eat less than you need. Lose weight

Eat healthier foods in the process, look and feel better.

Great ideas for sure but try getting half of America to try it good luck lmfao
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So you're saying I'm right, but since I'm using more words than you, it sounds too hard for someone like Scare to understand.



scarletspeed7 posted...

Someone from Current Events, so that should explain enough.

ohhhhhh makes sense
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Solioxrz362 posted...

So you're saying I'm right, but since I'm using more words than you, it sounds too hard for someone like Scare to understand.



scarletspeed7 posted...

Someone from Current Events, so that should explain enough.

ohhhhhh makes sense

From experience the people who need to explain it in a wall of text are the same that take 6 months to Lose 5 pounds and are proud of the progress lol
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I've lost 5 pounds in like 4 days before. I'm at 148 lbs 5'11" and I'm solidly fit. Don't know what experience you're talking about, must be that CE crew.

Either way, Scare I hope you find success with your weight loss and I hope you find a way to drop pounds and get back in shape that works for you!
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Wife and I went back tonight. Back was killing me 5 minutes in but still did 15 minutes on treadmill at 7.5 in line and just 2mph. But my heart rate hit 157? Which I think is too high for what I want to be doing but after I did mostly legs and was sweating all the way from head to ass so I'm not sure if I should be aiming for heart rate that high or what
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Unless you have a heart problem, heart rate is not really worth paying attention to.
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Solio makes pretty much every point I'd try to make. I still recommend looking into macros. You don't have to go hardcore into it, but it's good to be able to breakdown the foods you are eating quickly into what types of calories you are getting. CICO is technically true but you can build in plenty of self-defeats if you don't care about the types of calories and nutrients you are eating. If you're pitting yourself against your cravings and then encouraging those cravings with your diet... it's a hard road.

Good job on the exercise Scare. Maybe it doesn't feel like much (or it felt painful and difficult!) but it's infinitely better than doing no exercise. You're doing work and August 2019 ScareChan is going to post about how glad he is that 2018 ScareChan did this.
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When I lost weight years ago, I pretty much approached it from the strict perspective of CICO. From there it became quickly evident that as I restricted myself to 1600-1800 calories, certain foods felt like they wasted my allotment and left me hungry faster, so I shifted away from allowing the carbohydrates and sugars I ate to be empty any longer except on rare occasons. And of course my intake of protein and fat increased, but I never really got near Atkins territory.

I also broke away from my usual portion sizes, literally cutting everything in half first to see if I was still hungry afterward and saving it for later if I wasn't. I think this may have been the most important step that I took because I broke the habitual eating and made it all deliberate.
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Yeah I think if I just did counting calories I would say fuck it too quickly. I'm just cutting out a lot first and going from there
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Alright Scare ya ready?

Was 281. Went down to 233. Then summer of fun happened. Was 276 last night. We can lose weight together bruh!
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