Board 8 > Whats the opinion on My Hero Macadamia?

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Just desserts.
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The voices are really good in the dub though
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I mean yeah, it's a great one.
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They are developing the girl already too

See it only takes like 10 minutes of screentime, not sure why they waited 13 episodes
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First half of sports festival was okay. Lots of powers and characters.
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Todoroki mom is my waifu
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Holy crap why isn't ED3 the actual show, such a good concept

ED2 is also a better concept for that matter
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you're posting what you're watching but what are your thoughts on the matter now
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ED3 is awesome
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Punnyz posted...

you're posting what you're watching but what are your thoughts on the matter now

Sports festival has pretty much everything even though lots of things are still stupid. S1 is a complete waste of time in comparison, I would say just skip straight to S2 and you wouldn't miss much. 1 female character is good now at least, but all the others are still wasted, and no villains are good. Even the Hero Killer (although the TMNT Strider design was hilarious). Like a dollar store Korra villain.

But even in that arc, there's good internal conflict with the characters, which is all you need. It definitely feels like it's getting boring again though. The show doesn't really know what is most fun about it. It's not a coincidence that the best arc had no external threats at all. This is pretty common in shonens I guess. But this show is clearly trying to do something deeper with its villains and it's just not working at all. They need to learn from Deku and stick to what they are good at.
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Did you ever actually finish season 1?
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Yeah
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Ah. Figured you would have commented if you went back to watch the rest of those episodes.
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Stain's motivation and philosophy makes no sense at all. The worst thing he can come up with is that some heroes care about money and have human emotions like anger. Wow how corrupt. He complained a bit and no one listened so he trained to be a master serial killer. Okay. There's no reason for the public to question the hero's services, and villains shouldn't care either since they are plainly evil and not really interested in what it means to be a "true" hero.

This one episode is a total Japanese military commercial too (aimed at kids no less), and in general the heroes are an analogue for cops/government, so it's not like the show can ever seriously consider the option that heroes are legitimately problematic. Lots of action shows have done that (budget Korra villain like I said) but it's so incongruent here.

Also if Uravity was there she would've instantly disabled him when he tried to get her blood. Basically she needs to be the main character.
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yeah stain is a massive dipshit
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we actually know pretty much for a fact that ingenium was pretty close to a model hero and for some reason stain felt the need to paralyze him for life because ????
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I think the female cast being interesting on paper and during downtime but incredibly underutilized in the main plot is a continuing issue with HeroAca even up till now in the manga. Probably my biggest gripe with the series.

Other than #1 girl Knifey McSucksuck.
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MariaTaylor posted...

we actually know pretty much for a fact that ingenium was pretty close to a model hero and for some reason stain felt the need to paralyze him for life because ????

He said it was to send a message or something which is why he left him alive
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In the finale they did acknowledge how people just think Stain is cool and don't care about his philosophy at all, and also how he doesn't really have a philosophy and just kills things like any other villain. But that all came from the evil guy and was presented as spiteful nonsense. Deku contradicted it all and defended Stain's conviction. So what does the show actually want to say? The show clearly thinks Stain's philosophy is cool and interesting, but the villain's teardown of Stain was so on the nose, they must have had that awareness. Stain was also in and out in like 3 episodes so they must know how weak of a villain he is. It just doesn't make any sense for the world building of the show.
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Stain's purpose is primarily to influence several other character's actions later on in the series. He's essentially there to show how one person can effect change in the world regardless of their validity if they blow up big enough on social media.
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Yeah, Stain is basically just a spark that's meant to ignite a whole ton of other stuff down the road. In that sense he works really well IMO even though (or perhaps especially because) he's there and then gone so quickly.
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I get that, but there's no reason anything he said or did should be taken as an actual motivation. The public who thinks he's cool and the villains who are "following his will" make sense because it's superficial influence of the media. But it makes no sense that Deku and the main baddie genuinely believe it. Although it could just be that the main guy is correctly focusing on the All Might obsession, and Deku is just a dumb naive kid. That's why it's ambiguous what the show actually thinks about Stain. I can't give the benefit of the doubt with that so we'll see how future characters handle it.
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foolm0r0n posted...

In the finale they did acknowledge how people just think Stain is cool and don't care about his philosophy at all, and also how he doesn't really have a philosophy and just kills things like any other villain. But that all came from the evil guy and was presented as spiteful nonsense. Deku contradicted it all and defended Stain's conviction. So what does the show actually want to say? The show clearly thinks Stain's philosophy is cool and interesting, but the villain's teardown of Stain was so on the nose, they must have had that awareness.

yeah it's really hard to say. horikoshi generally seems really inconsistent and about half of the time I don't think even he knows what argument he is trying to make. he's just trying to write about cool shit and likely not putting 1/2 as much thought as some of the people who analyze the story (myself included)

foolm0r0n posted...

Stain was also in and out in like 3 episodes so they must know how weak of a villain he is.

for example 'lol nope' to this

the author admitted he really liked stain but he was too difficult to draw him over and over again because his design was so complex, so he just had stain go away quickly and not come back. that was literally it.
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foolm0r0n posted...

In the finale they did acknowledge how people just think Stain is cool and don't care about his philosophy at all, and also how he doesn't really have a philosophy and just kills things like any other villain. But that all came from the evil guy and was presented as spiteful nonsense. Deku contradicted it all and defended Stain's conviction. So what does the show actually want to say? The show clearly thinks Stain's philosophy is cool and interesting, but the villain's teardown of Stain was so on the nose, they must have had that awareness. Stain was also in and out in like 3 episodes so they must know how weak of a villain he is. It just doesn't make any sense for the world building of the show.

I think one point the show keeps making is that heroes have grown too confortable.

That said Stain really exaggerates it. And it gets dumber when they show his backstory in the spin-off manga (he was a vigilante who liked to murder criminals, and when some heroes prevented him from doing it, he decided to rebel against hero society).

Like the whole stuff about UA getting invaded and people being poorly equipped to deal with the Villain Alliance is that.

Society only thrives because All Might exists to keep AfO from conquering it. Take All Might away and they are suddenly very incompetent at the hero thing, to the point Shigaraki is a real threat.

So maybe the world really needs a higher standard of hero.

The series treats authority so positively it's hard to imagine Stain being validated.
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Stain was cool af but his philosphy didn't really make sense and wasn't really saying anything interesting. The show definitely wants to think it was profound though, and most of the fanbase wants to believe it too.
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MariaTaylor posted...

the author admitted he really liked stain but he was too difficult to draw him over and over again because his design was so complex, so he just had stain go away quickly and not come back. that was literally it.

That's amazing actually. He realizes drawing the manga is his day job and he wanted to make it easier.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

he was a vigilante who liked to murder criminals, and when some heroes prevented him from doing it, he decided to rebel against hero society

This does make way more sense though. That he genuinely enjoys killing people, and would stick to just criminals, but society made him go against heroes.

But also he got beaten by 3 kids, and there's no doubt Endeavor or Gran Torino or any number of other heroes could've rekt him too.

All Might is supposed to be so much better than the others, but so many heroes are shown to be effective and honorable and such. Even if they are just picking up trash, that's still better than the average citizen. There's no reason to think heroes need to really improve that much.

The villains have All For One, the legendary original creator of villains, and super good powers, and they're still total losers that no one knows about. They're the ones that need a higher standard.
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as All Might says "You're just a lunatic, trying to make your actions sound righteous but you just like to kill" or something along this ines

I think that also applies to Stain too
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the quality of heroes are pretty high in this show, so that does really hurt Stain's ideas

the series makes some small efforts to show some heroes just want fame like Ms Mountain or whatever but for most part they all seem pretty heroic. If they want to make them look bad then they actually need to make them look bad

Ingenium isn't the highest quality of hero, because he personally doesn't feel that strongly about helping people. It isn't his first instinct. But he sees thats the way Ieda is and he wants to live up to what Ieda would be like and how Ieda sees him, so he tries his hardest to live up to what a hero should be, even if being a hero isn't his first instinct.

So.... that makes him pretty heroic. If his actions are heroic, and he's doing it because he wants to live up to the standard of hero, then it doesn't really matter that his base instinct isn't to be heroic. How would Stain even know that?
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Well he instantly deduced Deku was a true hero so I guess hes got a good system
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I mean not only all of the above, but Stain seems to think that All Might is the only true and worthy hero which is also a bunch of nonsense as well

we're talking about the guy who encouraged a kid under his protection and teaching to go into the sports festival and obliterate his own arms just because he wanted Deku to "make his debut" and didn't seem to realize/care enough that Deku hadn't mastered his own power yet. what did All Might think was going to happen exactly?

don't get me wrong I like that the characters on the show are flawed and even All Might doesn't always make the best decisions in every situation, but it makes Stain come across as an even bigger hypocrite since he thinks only this imaginary version of All Might in his own head is a 'true hero' and then he instantly judges anyone else he wants while claiming they could NEVER change into better people no matter what so they should just be killed.
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Like imagine if in Light went around complaining that "people only work for MONEY" and "there's too many FAMOUS POP STARS"!!! Death Note would be a joke.

Obviously, this show doesn't need any sort of dark social commentary like that, but it's tries which is really annoying. Especially since all the light hearted student stuff works way better and is more than enough to carry the show.

A big part of it is that they haven't really sold a believable fantasy society, which is fine, but it also means you can't create really threaten the society with any weight. It's not like X-Men or Avatar which try really hard to set up the drama in their universes.
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Am I the only one that's kinda annoyed by the massive boner the anime seems to have for Froppy

Like, after the Stain arc, the anime is like "Next we'll look at the other characters' internships!" and it's like... Okay, cool. But then it just goes "j/k, only Froppy"

And then in the Exam bit they just about literally even say "Bird guy kinda sucks so we teamed him up with flawless Froppy who is perfect and has no weaknesses!" And then Froppy is just randomly like "Yo I Batman'd this shit. ...Oh, but, uh, don't look because it's soooo embarrassing oh no what a weakness okay we won"

I hope this lessens as it goes on
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Yea she does, she still gets a few things here and there but it's not massive

Also hey I like Tokoyami and Froppy together =\
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Yea she does, she still gets a few things here and there but it's not massive

Also hey I like Tokoyami and Froppy together =\

Oh, I had no problem with that

My problem was moreso how in that instance, it just basically shoves Tokoyami aside to go "LOOK HOW AMAZING FROPPY IS!" It probably wouldn't have been quite as bad without the "Froppy has no weaknesses" line before it.
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I think you're reading too much into it with that. we did get to see a bunch of the other students internships, though yeah she did have more time dedicated to her than anyone else. but the 'no weaknesses' line I don't think was meant to be taken literally. it was more about how the exams were designed to exploit the weaknesses of the students and she didn't have any clear ones that could be easily exploited in a testing scenario.

easier to just focus on someone like tokoyami, who can't do close range combat, and just see how tsu will support him.

keep in mind we know for a fact that she does have a weakness. there is a scene in the very episode you're complaining about where she extends her tongue to grab something and, since its extended and vulnerable, gets grabbed by it.
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Well, yeah, I know it's not meant to be taken literally.

It's moreso just that it's a little "Oh god" in hindsight when she ends up just going "Oh yeah btw I have this other power I never showed before and okay we win"
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she mentions it during the USJ attack when listing all of her powers
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I mean it was foreshadowed a bit in Season 1 during the USJ attack when they're on the boat and talking about themselves and what their quirks are.
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damn I'm so slow
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That's true I actually forgot about that

I dunno. That stretch just seemed a bit on the nose.

"Let's see 30 seconds of everybody else and 25 minutes of Froppy!"

followed by

*Humblebrag*
"Oh man Froppy you're so amazing!"

followed by
"Next up is tokoyami we guess and OH FUCK YEAH, IT'S FROPPY EVERYBODY, ON YOUR FEET"
which also got more time than any of the others so far
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But we got Selkie out of her internship at least.

And I guess I don't mind the focus on the Final Exam as much because it meant Tokoyami got more time too as a result and he's my favorite character. He needs more focus, his quirk is still the most interesting to me and they never talk in-depth about it really.
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if you're watching the final exams right now, well, froppy and tokoyami get about half of an episode to themselves and there are a few other groups that also get half of an episode. so I guess keep watching? if you already watched them then I guess your anti-froppy bias caused you to somehow also forget this fact on top of all the other incorrrect info you were citing.

also bakugo and deku get an entire episode dedicated to their final exam battle, so she's at least below main character status.
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MariaTaylor posted...

if you're watching the final exams right now, well, froppy and tokoyami get about half of an episode to themselves and there are a few other groups that also get half of an episode. so I guess keep watching? if you already watched them then I guess your anti-froppy bias caused you to somehow also forget this fact on top of all the other incorrrect info you were citing.

also bakugo and deku get an entire episode dedicated to their final exam battle, so she's at least below main character status.

My complaint wasn't that Froppy got more time than everybody. My complaint was mainly that there's two episodes that aren't separated by very much where other characters are shoved aside for Froppy

Yes some other characters do get about equal focus in the exams, but it's still kinda glaring when Froppy gets it twice in a row and she already got a decent bit in the USJ

It's not really anti-Froppy as much as there are still several characters at that point that haven't gotten anything
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Yea but Froppy is awesome though

its like saying "They're giving us too much Pizza, steak, and beer!"
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For the record, I actually like Froppy

Much better than Mineta he can get zero time thanks
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Froppy is great, but there's other equally great characters who that time could've been easily spread around. Shoji, Ashido and Jirou, to name a few. Let's not even go into how little the likes of Kota and Sato have had as well.
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Are the exams the first time we even find out sugar guy's power?
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Honestly Kirishima and Kaminari are usually the ones I think "I don't get why they're so popular and get so much". Kaminari especially, if you look at advertising and merchandise he's on A LOT for how little he does. Kirishima at least does some stuff but he gets put on EVERY SINGLE PROMOTION for someone that I think is cool, but not nearly as interesting as some of the other students who get less than him.
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