Board 8 > Whats the opinion on My Hero Macadamia?

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I'm a few episodes in

All might is pretty funny, I like the idea of there being lots of super heroes with different powers and personalities

its like they expanded on that certain aspect of One punch Man

I like the whole deconstruction of PUT YOUR MIND TO IT AND YOU CAN DO ANYTHING LOL thing

Not all people are created equal nor can they become equal

but that gets subverted when Deku gets powers anyways, but he has a ways to go

also...I like dat Thick Pink chick
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Punnyz posted...

also...I like dat Thick Pink chick

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I didn't really LOVE One Punch Man so I've kind of been "eh" on it but a lot of my friends really love it and I told them I'd give it a try eventually meh
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also, All Might not really knowing what hes doing is also really funny and fresh

I thought he was gonna be like, the all knowing goodie goodie Principal

hes playin it by ear just as much as Deku
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ExThaNemesis posted...

I didn't really LOVE One Punch Man so I've kind of been "eh" on it but a lot of my friends really love it and I told them I'd give it a try eventually meh

There being an organization\school of super heroes is where the similarities end

Theres different lessons, different tone, different deconstructions, etc

I can see one liking this show and not liking OPM
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The macadamia nut is my least favourite part of White chocolate macadamia nut cookies. Still solid though.
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Punnyz posted...

I can see one liking this show and not liking OPM

I think OPM is almost perfectly average and MHA is one of my favorite anime! I appreciate the unique powers and fun characters in MHA a lot more than OPM's gag (which, frankly, felt played out by the end of the first season).

Anyway, glad you're enjoying MHA so far.
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It's good but not my favorite. Definitely has some awesome moments.

I think what really hurts it for me is no one dies, ever.
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Mobilezoid posted...

OPM's gag (which, frankly, felt played out by the end of the first season).

I kinda started to feel this way until the final fight of season 1

Seeing how it just kinda utterly destroyed the villain to know he tried so hard and wasn't even a threat to Saitama, and likewise, the almost pained way Saitama tries to humor him was well done.
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One Punch Man is literally about everything else OTHER than him punching people to death

it just so happens he still gets to punch people to death after everything is done

I'm not trying to pull the Rick and Morty shit about understanding the show, theres other things going on here
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Okay seriously who the fuck is this Grape Baby Diaper fucker
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see the thing I enjoy about OPM is how it's not taking itself too seriously. I've heard that MHA takes itself quite seriously and doesn't do anything extra special that other shoenen's haven't.

I'm like literally the easiest to please person in the world when it comes to anime though so I'll probably love it.

I'm re-watching Black Lagoon first though so after that I'll give it a go.
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HeroAca is basically the anti-Hunter x Hunter. Hunter x Hunter was turning shounen on it's head, while HeroAca is basically a love letter attempting to perfect the classic formula. Both excellent products for very different reasons.

I will definately get shit for this, but think of it like comparing what Eva and Gurren Lagann were doing for mecha respectively.
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Yea I was about to say, I actually think Hero DOESN"T take itself too seriously. Its pretty standard stuff

I just like the setting and the direction they're going, its not SUPER generic either
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Ah okay. I can dig that.

Like I said I literally loved Dragonball Super so there's almost no chance I don't like this.
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Also I really like the action music that plays when shit is goin down
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Punnyz posted...

Also I really like the action music that plays when shit is goin down

"You Say Run"

Also, it won't be getting an anime until January, but keep and eye on The Promised Neverland. It's regularly competing with HeroAca for Jump's #2 slot (which may as well be #1 because really, should One Piece count?), and it's very different from what Ken would expect of the magazine.

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mha is a master of its genre. nothing new but its amazing at what it does
also opm is like fuckin the best
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I love OPM and couldn't get into this show at all. It's so dated and basic. I feel like it's even more basic than Naruto. Every character is super archetypal and shallow yet the show feels the need to slowly walk you through all the same old story beats, like you're some sort of idiot. Like yeah we get the whole main guy/childhood rival/girl dynamic, get on with it. After 5 episodes they were STILL focusing on the same boring core characters, instead of the 30+ potentially cool other characters.

All that is okay I guess. It doesn't compare to OPM in the slightest, which is more of a drama and cares about good writing, but there's nothing wrong with some basic shonen.

But the show promises so much and provides absolutely no substance at all. None of the characters changed at all since episode 1. I skipped to the end of S1 and still no one changed. They pretend they have this thematic subversion because the main guy hurts himself when he uses power... but literally all the conflicts from episode 1 through the finale are solved by brute force. The show thinks it's cool and mature for merely asking deep questions, even though it completely avoids answering.

You might like it for the animation and the basic formula and mayyyybe some characters, but there's nothing thematically or emotionally interesting in it.
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nah characters definitely change. gotta give it more than a season to see development smh
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foolmo's analysis is what I've heard from more than 2 or 3 people regarding MHA that hasn't made me in any sort of hurry to get to it.
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I mean season 1 IS pretty basic. Certainly evolved from there, with seasons 2 and 3 both being twice as long as well.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

foolmo's analysis is what I've heard from more than 2 or 3 people regarding MHA that hasn't made me in any sort of hurry to get to it.

im sure youd really enjoy it.
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Season 1 is basic yeah but it's like basically one introductory arc. It's still basically introducing the characters for most of it. Seasons 2 and 3 definitely start to evolve
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The thing about Naruto is that its pretty boring except it has moments

a cool moment every few episodes that string you along

Though I do like the Sasuke Retrieval arc

While not super hype (its not that deep, son), I think Hero is a bit more entertaining and does a better job of setting up

like, on episode 10ish

the villains attack the school and the kids are being thrust into battle. Its a bit on the exciting side! And All Might busting in NOT Smiling is AWW YEA. What with the eye guy getting his fucking arms violently broken, I legit thought Frog girl was about to die. but yea, this ain't attack on titan
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MysticBrohan posted...

gotta give it more than a season to see development smh

No I think 13 episodes is enough to see the needle move a little bit in that department.

This is the problem with shows like this though. The fans ALWAYS come back and say "no trust me man, it gets better in S2". So you watch 25 more episodes and... it's still basically the same. And then they say "no really S3 is where it gets good!!" etc etc. Exact thing happened with JoJo part 3. It's the most basic disappointing carrot on the stick ever.

OPM has 12 episodes. JoJo part 1 has 9 episodes, part 2 like 15. The amount of development in those series is massive. There is no excuse for having 13 episodes of static, let alone 50 episodes (though at least JoJo part 3 wasn't basic, just insanely repetitive).

The fact is, this is just not that kind of show. It's not made to have character development or any kind of depth, and people don't watch it for that. But this show is weird in that it tries so hard to pretend it's deeper. That's probably what people mean by "taking itself seriously" even though the show itself is silly. It's like getting a salad at mcdonald's.
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Jojo part 3 can get repetitive, but at least not as much as other shows.

Plus, the Egypt arc gets better
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Punnyz posted...

the villains attack the school and the kids are being thrust into battle. Its a bit on the exciting side! And All Might busting in NOT Smiling is AWW YEA. What with the eye guy getting his fucking arms violently broken, I legit thought Frog girl was about to die. but yea, this ain't attack on titan

Exactly. The situation they set up was very hype and tense. There were hostages taken and there was this theme of action vs inaction and offense vs pacifism that was going throughout all the different fights.

And then it's all instantly resolved by reinforcements busting in and headshotting everyone and the main guy using force and breaking his body again. Everyone is healed and literally nothing was lost or changed.
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Punnyz posted...

Plus, the Egypt arc gets better

see
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my guy no ones claiming its deep or that they watch it for the characater development. everyone knows its good because of that juicy shounen shit we all need a hit of in our veins because we grew up watching dbz and shit. but you said theres no character development when there very clearly is; it being later than you want it doesnt mean the whole show is static garbage. is its slower than you want it to be and you arent satisfied with watching that shonen shit then dont but why do you need to be such a meanie hater about it
and opm is similar to this show only in aesthetic i wish people would stop comparing them
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foolm0r0n posted...

Punnyz posted...

Plus, the Egypt arc gets better

see

you ARE in the minority

you're like, the ltm of jojo
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OPM has great writing, but saying it has great character development in season one is super weird

Like two characters develop a little bit

Comparing that to MHA introducing and juggling like two dozen characters isn't really fair
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HashtagSEP posted...

OPM has great writing, but saying it has great character development in season one is super weird

Like two characters develop a little bit

Yeah I was trying to figure out how to word this. Who developed in OPM S1? Genos and... Mumen Rider, maybe?
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foolm0r0n posted...

But this show is weird in that it tries so hard to pretend it's deeper.

Yeah I don't....understand where you're getting this at all. HeroAca is very much popular because it DOESN'T try to be deeper. That's way off track. The show has a tournament, training, and exam arc for god's sake.
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Punnyz posted...

you ARE in the minority

you're like, the ltm of jojo

What.

Pun, Stardust being considered a fairly repetitive proof of concept for Stands that gets by on fun character moments is not exactly an uncommon opinion. Stardust may be the most famous, but there aren't really a lot of manga readers who put it at the top of their lists.
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MHA is one of the few shounen series where I found myself rooting for the main character. Deku is so good and innocent and pure that I genuinely want him to succeed. Usually when I watch shounen, I'm just on for the ride. I assume the main character will win, but I don't care if he loses. I WANT Deku to win.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Everyone is healed and literally nothing was lost or changed.

Eraserhead gets a scar!

But yeah, it's not trying to be deep. It's superhero Naruto, except way better at managing its supporting cast. It gets into some philosophical stuff on what it means to be a hero in season two with a certain villain, but even then, it's just different characters spouting different ideals.

It's really good, but I know you'll never believe us, so I'm not going to try harder than that to convince you.
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Saitama became a hero out of boredom and to get paid

Saitama then pretends loudly take credit for the Sea king kill to give back all of the respect the public had for the heroes

and then the DBZ fight at the end as someone else mentioned

NOW I'm not claiming that show has the greatest development, but he goes through some stuff
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Yeah i was thinking Saitama and Genos. I forgot Mumen Rider.

I think my point is had OPM introduced all of the other characters much earlier, it'd be the same thing of almost none of them getting development in season 1. I think the only thing with MHA is that it throws almost everyone at you right away
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Punnyz posted...

Saitama became a hero out of boredom and to get paid

Saitama then pretends loudly take credit for the Sea king kill to give back all of the respect the public had for the heroes

and then the DBZ fight at the end as someone else mentioned

NOW I'm not claiming that show has the greatest development, but he goes through some stuff

But foolmo is talking about the extended cast here.

Now, if we're talking manga he's super right, but he's talking anime which makes that claim very silly. MHA S1 and OPM S1 both introduce and develop basically the exact same number of characters.
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I'm sorry I brought up OPM

like i said, the ONLY thing it has in common was the hero thing

literally everything else is different
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MysticBrohan posted...

my guy no ones claiming its deep

Yes they are, and the show itself too. That's the main thing that makes it way less fun that it should be.

No one says they watch it for the character development, sure, but that doesn't stop every fanboy from pulling the same old "oh it gets better after 40 more episodes!!!". If you really don't care about the character development then forget that lame excuse. And be willing to admit it to new watchers.

And maybe avoid opinion topics if you're gonna call any negative opinion a hater. You can pretend I don't like it cuz it's just not my thing, but that's just delusion. I love DBZ and Naruto and YYH and even YGO (especially YGO). Hero Academia is worse than those. That thing you love is mediocre, big deal.

DBZ has insanely strong character development btw, that's why it's still so popular.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Yeah I don't....understand where you're getting this at all. HeroAca is very much popular because it DOESN'T try to be deeper. That's way off track. The show has a tournament, training, and exam arc for god's sake.

Watch the S1 finale again
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Foolmo is going fool strawman here.
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MHA is good shit. Like someone earlier said, it really seems like it's making an honestly great run at perfecting the classic shonen formula. The story-telling is insanely snappy, too. Like, it's one of the only manga I can tolerate reading weekly (OP being the other) because it just plain doesn't fuck around. It knows what it wants to do and it gets right to it.
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okay so

like

Deku is trippin BALLS over how he has no quirks and shit

but this hero here

His powers

or should I say

"Powers" is to have a gun
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also, I was going to go to bed but then I decided to watch this one more episode to finish this battle
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HashtagSEP posted...

I think the only thing with MHA is that it throws almost everyone at you right away

Episodes 5 is when the school is first introduced. Up to then it's all Deku and All Might with some Byakuya sprinkled in.

But after episode 5, the only extra characters they really tried introducing were the girl and the smart guy. AND THEN they go into a multi-episode arc where all those characters, who were were already introduced to for the past 5 episodes, are coincidentally put together. The other 30 characters are relegated to a comedic line here and there and that's it. So infuriating.

OPM fully develops Saitama in E1, Genos in E2, and by E5 it also introduced Mumen Rider, the ninja guy, along with the hero association and a bunch of tertiary heroes. Not to mention like a dozen villains who are all hilariously well developed and then immediately killed.

In terms of breadth AND depth OPM still wins. But yeah there's no reason to make the OPM comparison here anyways.
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Almost all of those characters have grown over time and become key players in arcs in one way or another. There are a few waiting for their time to shine, sure.

It's not to your taste and that's fine, it really is, but stop doing your usual thing where you act like you're the enlightened one and everyone else is a sheep who doesn't see the truth. It's never a good look.
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OPM and MHA are completely different shows in different genres. the former jokes about the overpowered shounen hero that deflates everything and makes everything else redundant, the latter is all about the struggle of heroes and villains alike and societal changes that could develop from it. the former's a satirical comedy playing with shounen, the latter's a shounen that gets into what a world like this would be.

and you'd totally love it, extha. do bear in mind the massive difference in speed between manga and anime though; anime is relatively slow at first but builds into a really good pace, manga is lightning fucking quick. putting it this way: the manga:anime ratio is roughly 2 chapters:1 episode right now. this is an increase of speed because for a good while it was closer to 1.5 chapters:1 episode. despite that, the anime feels well paced because the manga is STUPID fast at moving through content. you do get used to it but starting with the anime is the way to go.
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