Board 8 > Whats the opinion on My Hero Macadamia?

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pjbasis
08/16/18 2:57:07 PM
#203:


Have you watched haikyuu yet foolmo?

Now there's an ensemble cast with some character development.
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LapisLazuli
08/16/18 3:00:07 PM
#204:


Foolmo.

Just do you man.

Now you're planning on watching something you didn't like out of spite.

Do something better with your time than this
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pyresword
08/16/18 3:00:13 PM
#205:


I think all of My Hero Academia is good including season 1. I do think the best parts so far are the Sports Festival arc and an arc in season 3, but I mean I still gave season 1 an 8/10 which is probably about 1 standard deviation above average for me.
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pjbasis
08/16/18 3:05:52 PM
#206:


I agree that mha gets better and shit, I'm a fan of the show, but I don't see him really liking the rest very much either.

I think the truth is 1-A is not THAT interesting of a cast. They're a fun group, but no one being important beyond Deku or Bakugo or Todoroki is still a very real thing almost 200 chapters later.
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foolm0r0n
08/16/18 3:14:34 PM
#207:


HashtagSEP posted...
But it didn't develop a single one of them

Clearly I think it developed them a lot, you just have a bad opinion/interpretation. Pretty straightforward.

LapisLazuli posted...
Now you're planning on watching something you didn't like out of spite.

I'm planning to watch a supposedly good anime. What's the problem? If it isn't actually better than S1 then tell me and I won't.

pjbasis posted...
Have you watched haikyuu yet foolmo?

I have 0 interest in sports animes but I do have a feeling I would like them. Although I would probably start with the swimming one with all the ass.
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ZeldaTPLink
08/16/18 3:16:55 PM
#208:


foolm0r0n posted...
I'm planning to watch a supposedly good anime. What's the problem? If it isn't actually better than S1 then tell me and I won't.


In other words, you are doing it just to prove a point.

This is dumb.
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LapisLazuli
08/16/18 3:18:52 PM
#209:


At least when I watched SAO to justify talking shit I admitted it. Hell, I even ended up liking one of the arcs!
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pyresword
08/16/18 3:20:21 PM
#210:


LapisLazuli posted...
At least when I watched SAO to justify talking shit I admitted it

This reminds me I still never finished that GGO spinoff anime...
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ZeldaTPLink
08/16/18 3:54:23 PM
#211:


There is merit in watching something to bash it because you think that will make for an entertaining text.

What is happening here is just spite.
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pjbasis
08/16/18 4:10:40 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
I have 0 interest in sports animes but I do have a feeling I would like them.


How interesting
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MariaTaylor
08/16/18 4:14:32 PM
#213:


pjbasis posted...
Have you watched haikyuu yet foolmo?

Now there's an ensemble cast with some character development.


haikyu is great, possibly one of the greatest anime, but the development happens over multiple seasons

do you honestly believe the foolmo you have seen in this topic would be capable of watching the show long enough without complaining that the characters were never developed in the first 5 episodes
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foolm0r0n
08/16/18 4:45:11 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
At least when I watched SAO to justify talking shit I admitted it. Hell, I even ended up liking one of the arcs!

I have admitting doing that for a lot of things, Danganronpa and BotW etc.

But here I do just want to watch good anime. Although if it sucks then I will blame you guys for sure.

Besides, the "proving a point" thing is stupid because no one cares how informed my opinion actually is, only about the opinion itself. People could rave about the show after 3 episodes and you would never slam them for not watching enough of the show before forming an opinion. This happens all the time, it's pretty basic. But the bottom line is I want to watch a good anime, and I don't want other people to be misled.
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Wanglicious
08/16/18 4:58:32 PM
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MariaTaylor posted...
one legit bizarre thing about my hero academia is how we're told quirks are either mutations, or they are inherited from the parents... but then often times we'll see that side joke characters have two parents with the same quirk. tsu has two frog-like parents, although one is more froggy than the other. hagakure has two invisible parents though which is very notable. it makes it seem like their parents must have been related and they are inbred? but the author never addresses this directly so it's hard to say if he just didn't think it through to the logical conclusion or if he did it intentionally but didn't want to draw attention to it.


a bit unrelated but this is one of the reasons i really do like Mahouka.
the amount of detail on how magic families work, how they progressed, etc is fully detailed in that series, including the fact that there was inbreeding to keep certain magical traits dominant/pure/secret. quirks would definitely go the same route.

mind you, mahouka spends so much time explaining everything that the glossary is like 5 pages by volume 3 and it's STILL not enough. it's a relatively unique beast on this front, even if it is going on a weird direction by volume 8.
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ShatteredElysium
08/16/18 5:00:24 PM
#216:


If you didn't like the USJ section of Season 1 (and it sounds like you didn't) then I can't see you liking Season 2 any more than you did Season 1 to be honest. It's an improvement over Season 1 as a whole but it doesn't really get significantly better than the USJ arc or anything, it just doesn't fall back to the levels of the start of Season 1.
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pjbasis
08/16/18 5:03:00 PM
#217:


Yeah the world building in MHA is a bizarre mix of trying to be smart but also wanting to be goofy and silly. Todoroki covered half his body in ice when he first appeared, and not too long after it's shown overusing the cold hurts his body.

Why doesn't Bakugo's triglycerin or whatever sweat hurt him when it explodes? Might have been better not to try in these cases.
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MariaTaylor
08/16/18 5:04:42 PM
#218:


Wanglicious posted...
a bit unrelated but this is one of the reasons i really do like Mahouka.
the amount of detail on how magic families work, how they progressed, etc is fully detailed in that series, including the fact that there was inbreeding to keep certain magical traits dominant/pure/secret. quirks would definitely go the same route.

mind you, mahouka spends so much time explaining everything that the glossary is like 5 pages by volume 3 and it's STILL not enough. it's a relatively unique beast on this front, even if it is going on a weird direction by volume 8.


yeah mahouka is a pretty cool series. I've only seen the anime but I read a lot about the novels and what kind of extra details were cut and such. seems very interesting. some people don't like that kind of series where the main character is an overpowered lunatic who god stomps everything but for me it can be very entertaining if it's done well.
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ShatteredElysium
08/16/18 5:05:41 PM
#219:


Isn't half his body being covered in Ice his costume? And costumes are also designed with their quirks in mind to amplify them / account for weaknesses? He isn't wearing his costume in the sports arc.

That being said, it's a plot point that Todoroki doesn't want to use part of his quirk despite him using said quirk in Season 1 and having no issue using it to melt the ice he creates on multiple occasions.
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ZeldaTPLink
08/16/18 5:12:58 PM
#220:


He is okay with using fire as long as it's not a battle or super-hero context.

He won't even use it to keep his body warm while using ice during a fight, which was a problem for him in the Deku fight.
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ZeldaTPLink
08/16/18 5:14:12 PM
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We actually see opposing scenario with Endeavor recently in the manga. Puts into some perspective why he seeked to have a son with ice powers. He really thought that being able to achieve even higher temperatures was what he needed to surpass All Might.
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LapisLazuli
08/16/18 5:19:52 PM
#222:


ShatteredElysium posted...
If you didn't like the USJ section of Season 1 (and it sounds like you didn't) then I can't see you liking Season 2 any more than you did Season 1 to be honest. It's an improvement over Season 1 as a whole but it doesn't really get significantly better than the USJ arc or anything, it just doesn't fall back to the levels of the start of Season 1.


He didn't actually watched it, he skipped to the end.

So....who knows.
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Punnyz
08/16/18 5:20:05 PM
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pjbasis
08/16/18 5:22:49 PM
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ShatteredElysium posted...
He isn't wearing his costume in the sports arc.


People are in their costumes all the time. He never sports the Ice Terminator look every again.
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LapisLazuli
08/16/18 5:24:07 PM
#225:


If you're being genuine foolmo and you just want compelling self contained short anime series that get stuff done fast, I can give you a list of recommendations that might actually work for you. HeroAca isnt it. Watch Baccano, or Devilman Crybaby, or The Place Further than the Universe. There a so, so many more anime well suited to what you're looking for.
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ShatteredElysium
08/16/18 5:30:27 PM
#226:


pjbasis posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
He isn't wearing his costume in the sports arc.


People are in their costumes all the time. He never sports the Ice Terminator look every again.


In the sports arc, they are all in sports uniforms not costumes? Like Bakugo doesn't have his gauntlets and Ocacho can't be in her costume given the tactic she tries in her fight.

Deku also definitely isn't in his costume either. He's in the blue UA sports uniform rather than his green thing with the hood/mask and smile grill.

EDIT: Just checked Todoroki is in sports uniform for that fight. That being said I know what you're talking about because later in the season when Deku is in costume alongside Todoroki, he's in plain blue stuff rather than his season 1 stuff. Which to me just says they probably didn't intend on Todoroki plot going the way it did when they did his season 1 outfit or just didn't think about it. Although actually his ice terminator stuff is over his non-ice side in season 1 so maybe they just changed plans or were trying to hide that side or something.
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SupremeZero
08/16/18 5:39:28 PM
#227:


ShatteredElysium posted...
pjbasis posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
He isn't wearing his costume in the sports arc.


People are in their costumes all the time. He never sports the Ice Terminator look every again.


In the sports arc, they are all in sports uniforms not costumes? Like Bakugo doesn't have his gauntlets and Ocacho can't be in her costume given the tactic she tries in her fight.

Deku also definitely isn't in his costume either. He's in the blue UA sports uniform rather than his green thing with the hood/mask and smile grill.

EDIT: Just checked Todoroki is in sports uniform for that fight. That being said I know what you're talking about because later in the season when Deku is in costume alongside Todoroki, he's in plain blue stuff rather than his season 1 stuff. Which to me just says they probably didn't intend on Todoroki plot going the way it did when they did his season 1 outfit or just didn't think about it.

Be kind of hard to cover his fire side in ice when he's actually started using his fire side.
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ShatteredElysium
08/16/18 5:41:04 PM
#228:


Yeah I looked up season 1 stuff and saw how they had his ice costume and realized why they would stop doing it. I assumed it was reversed.
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pjbasis
08/16/18 5:42:01 PM
#229:


But my point that Bakugo doesn't have to worry about injuring himself with explosions while the Todoroki family has to maintain proper temperature balance still stands.

Feels inconsistent.
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pjbasis
08/16/18 5:43:18 PM
#230:


ShatteredElysium posted...
Yeah I looked up season 1 stuff and saw how they had his ice costume and realized why they would stop doing it. I assumed it was reversed.


I guess I didn't interpret it as his costume, just that he was literally covering half his body in ice. I guess something mechanical had to be under there to produce his red glowey eye.
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StealThisSheen
08/16/18 5:45:20 PM
#231:


pjbasis posted...
But my point that Bakugo doesn't have to worry about injuring himself with explosions while the Todoroki family has to maintain proper temperature balance still stands.

Feels inconsistent.


Eh, you've got a guy that can't shock himself and a chick that pulls weapons out of her body without any harm whatsoever, so you're not really meant to apply the rules of one to another

I'd say the reason Todoroki has to regulate temperature is because they have two directly opposing elements
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ShatteredElysium
08/16/18 5:47:32 PM
#232:


A quick search says he doesn't have to worry about it due to his 'physical prowess' lol
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ZeldaTPLink
08/16/18 7:49:35 PM
#233:


StealThisSheen posted...
pjbasis posted...
But my point that Bakugo doesn't have to worry about injuring himself with explosions while the Todoroki family has to maintain proper temperature balance still stands.

Feels inconsistent.


Eh, you've got a guy that can't shock himself and a chick that pulls weapons out of her body without any harm whatsoever, so you're not really meant to apply the rules of one to another

I'd say the reason Todoroki has to regulate temperature is because they have two directly opposing elements


Nope, his father only has one element and has a temperature limit too.

I think they are able to endure the fire and ice they create to some extent. If the temperature difference gets too big, they get harmed.
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CeraSeptem
08/17/18 9:40:47 AM
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foolm0r0n posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
I used to see this a lot on the Homestuck fandom. People had quotas of character development they believed all the 20-30 characters should get, and got annoyed when they didn't at the end.

I mean you're right. My quota was 1 character getting 1 bit of character development, and it didn't happen, so I was disappointed. I can see how unfair that is now.

I don't care at all if you like the show. It's when you make obviously false claims like this that you demonstrate your ignorance.

Because what in fact happened was two of the major characters got some development, All Might confronted his limitations and weakened himself again, Deku realized more and more that he needs to gain better control of his power and not rely on Recovery Girl or anyone else. Meanwhile, the entire cast got relatively minor development in that the students now understand the world they've gotten involved in in a way they didn't before, the villains make very clear moves which were unprecedented before, and the audience has a better expectation of the stakes, but you're claiming "nothing happened" because it wasn't quite the level you desired. You can be disappointed if you want, that's your deal, but that's an altogether different situation than "nothing happened because it didn't move as quickly as I want." And that's not even an unusual stance. One of the biggest criticisms of the show (and especially the first season) is the pacing.

You are crying cuz not EVERYTHING happened. And that's fine, but at least be honest with yourself. To claim otherwise is to either be too dumb to understand what did actually happen or too ignorant to care. You'll notice that no one bothered with the numerous other people in the same topic who had negative things to say because they didn't say stuff that was demonstrably false, because criticism is good and even encouraged so long as it's not stupid. If you end up watching the sports festival and not liking it, do your thing no one cares, if you still claim nothing happened it's time to admit that you're the problem (I mean, it already is but you get it).

Sorry, I know I'm late to the party.
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foolm0r0n
08/17/18 12:22:32 PM
#235:


CeraSeptem posted...
All Might confronted his limitations and weakened himself again, Deku realized more and more that he needs to gain better control of his power and not rely on Recovery Girl or anyone else

All Might had that since episode 1. The shark monster was not meaningfully different from the goo monster. And Deku's punch in the finale was not meaningfully different from the robot. There's no reason to believe he learned anything at all. It's actually kinda regressive because against the robot he had no idea about the healing power, but he also didn't know about breaking his body so it balances out. And yes the villains seem to raise the stakes, but no one was hurt after losing so hard, so there aren't really stakes.

That's what I have been saying the whole time, the small developments that are there (which are only for Deku really) only nullify the interesting conflicts that the show spends so much time setting up. How does giving me more examples of exactly what I'm talking about prove me wrong?

CeraSeptem posted...
You'll notice that no one bothered with the numerous other people in the same topic who had negative things to say because

Because they prefaced their statements with liking the show. If I said I loved the show but... then no one really would've cared either. I could've defused every single argument ITT by saying I actually love the show, I just wish they would do etc. I've done it before with other things when I'm not trying to argue, it works so well.

You can pretend you care about "false claims", but like you said, no one cares about the false stuff that other people are saying. Half the people say there's no development and that's fine, the other half say there is obviously development. Plenty of people to argue with if you really care. You can start with the guy saying Deku can't always instantly heal after episode 6 even though he did just that in episode 13.

I just DLed 35 gigs of S2 though
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GANON1025
08/17/18 12:28:10 PM
#236:


I hope you downloaded those episodes legally.......
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pjbasis
08/17/18 12:31:16 PM
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pyresword
08/17/18 12:33:34 PM
#238:


foolm0r0n posted...
You can start with the guy saying Deku can't always instantly heal after episode 6 even though he did just that in episode 13.

The idea is that there's long term damage despite the fact that Recovery Girl is using her powers to heal Deku much faster than normal.
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ninkendo
08/17/18 12:34:53 PM
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foolm0r0n
08/17/18 12:42:09 PM
#240:


pyresword posted...
The idea is that there's long term damage despite the fact that Recovery Girl is using her powers to heal Deku much faster than normal.

I can't wait to see that have an effect in the story
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LapisLazuli
08/17/18 12:42:54 PM
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foolm0r0n
08/17/18 12:43:42 PM
#242:


ninkendo posted...
and crunchyroll is so cheap too :(

I hate their player, and I seriously doubt their business model. I'll just buy some MHA crap in Japan to give them proper revenue.

And I forgot why I started watching MHA in the first place, to practice Japanese. So I shouldn't care too much if it's slow. But I also haven't watched all of OPM in Japanese yet...
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LapisLazuli
08/17/18 12:46:51 PM
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pyresword
08/17/18 12:48:29 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
pyresword posted...
The idea is that there's long term damage despite the fact that Recovery Girl is using her powers to heal Deku much faster than normal.

I can't wait to see that have an effect in the story

It actually does! Possibly not in a way you'd like, but it does happen.

Though, this is why when people initially started talking about this I pushed back with:

pyresword posted...
This isn't really apparent in season 1, to be fair.

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foolm0r0n
08/17/18 1:09:59 PM
#245:


LapisLazuli posted...
MHA is on Crunchy, Funi, Yahoo, and Hulu.

http://because.moe/?q=Academia

youtube/netflix or death
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SupremeZero
08/17/18 1:12:22 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
youtube

Fucking Disgusting
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LapisLazuli
08/17/18 1:26:32 PM
#247:


Vomiting in my mouth.

But hey, at least you can get on that Netflix Devilman train.
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foolm0r0n
08/17/18 1:53:27 PM
#248:


Crunchyroll still uses a flash player

I guess if you want to get the full 2004 experience, there's nothing better
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MysticBrohan
08/17/18 1:54:45 PM
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if you dont wanna smash todoroki by the end of the sports festival then drop the show tbh
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CeraSeptem
08/17/18 2:03:17 PM
#250:


foolm0r0n posted...
You can start with the guy saying Deku can't always instantly heal after episode 6 even though he did just that in episode 13.

It's honestly impossible to tell if you're just pretending to be this dumb.

"You can't do this forever" =/= "You can't do this ever again". To interpret it this way, you would need to lack even the most basic degree of comprehension or have some ulterior motive for pretending to.
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LapisLazuli
08/17/18 2:37:14 PM
#251:


You don't own any modern video game consoles? They all have the Crunchy app
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foolm0r0n
08/17/18 2:58:15 PM
#252:


CeraSeptem posted...
"You can't do this forever" =/= "You can't do this ever again". To interpret it this way, you would need to lack even the most basic degree of comprehension or have some ulterior motive for pretending to.

How many times should he be able to do it no problem before I can reasonably feel like it's an empty threat?

This is like when I criticize a presidential candidate for being pro-war and the defenders respond "but they said they still stop the war!!!". As if I'm some insane conspiracy theorist. So childish.

It's fine though, I already don't think he will face real consequences from it so if it happens I will be surprised.
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