Board 8 > Chris' Music Mafia Topic 12: Bohemian Rhapsody

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

For example (and i don't think this has been brought up) what happens if red didn't count towards mzero's ability? He was "unscanneable" so what if mzero's ability functions like a scan? This could result in a scenario where 0 people are removed. Or a scenario where 1 person is removed but it is from Ben or Han, and not Red. This would be a false positive and we could potentially have incomplete information and no way to know it.

yeah, basically there's an endless list of things like this we may not know or even conceive of being possible and then we just mistakenly lynch everybody who was on MZero one by one and they're all town, or something

when we have guaranteed scum to just lynch

like look at our scenario as a whole. we don't need a crazy scanning target bomb power to close out the game. let's just...lynch scum...

It's SCIENCE.

..and stuff.

benjamin3740 posted...

ScareChan posted...

I dont really understand the zero thing but I will do whatever you guys need

Vote Mzero and keep it on him

ok

##Vote: MZero
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Crescent-Moon posted...

It's SCIENCE.

..and stuff.

Well then im no scientist because i didn't the If:Then chains.
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... scientifically speaking, anyway

I'm fine with just lynching scum. We can get a perfect run casualty free.... err IGCD didn't count
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so I have not read most of last topic

but we have a lot of roles that give information on players and I think that scum may have something to counteract that

like they may have something like informed of like a role that isnt in the game or something

if Tony lives til end game I think he may be scum
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I don't particularly care if we Lynch Scare anyways, I'm still just feeling a little extra catty.

ScareChan posted...

so I have not read most of last topic

but we have a lot of roles that give information on players and I think that scum may have something to counteract that

like they may have something like informed of like a role that isnt in the game or something

if Tony lives til end game I think he may be scum

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You now have: Extra Kitten Power

turbopuns2 posted...

ScareChan posted...

so I have not read most of last topic

but we have a lot of roles that give information on players and I think that scum may have something to counteract that

like they may have something like informed of like a role that isnt in the game or something

if Tony lives til end game I think he may be scum

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ScareChan posted...

so I have not read most of last topic

but we have a lot of roles that give information on players and I think that scum may have something to counteract that

like they may have something like informed of like a role that isnt in the game or something

if Tony lives til end game I think he may be scum

You missed a lot in the last topic man. Tony was already scanned scum
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Im fine with either Scare or testing MZero, but I dont like seeing people say Crescent shouldnt be on it, ESPECIALLY when they say Puns should.

That makes no logical sense. Puns is essentially confirmed in my eyes, and Crescent has been...Crescent. Like Blade, I dont think you can read her alignment by her demeanor, which is almost entirely what people are going on.

At the very least, just let me state it today in case I never get the chance that I would not be ok without Crescent making it to the end, if it comes to that.
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benjamin3740 posted...

ScareChan posted...

so I have not read most of last topic

but we have a lot of roles that give information on players and I think that scum may have something to counteract that

like they may have something like informed of like a role that isnt in the game or something

if Tony lives til end game I think he may be scum

You missed a lot in the last topic man. Tony was already scanned scum

what the fuck

okay I guess I am just going to have to read because this is stupid how much happened that I missed
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

I would not be ok without Crescent making it to the end, if it comes to that.

what do you mean

##unvote

turbopuns2 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

I would not be ok without Crescent making it to the end, if it comes to that.

what do you mean

Oops I meant with**
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tony what is your lynch order for the rest of the game

Okay my head hurts

I really am fine with anything but I think I'd like to kill Scare today and just work the rest out later. No point overcomplicating it and the Scare role flip could make our second-guessing pointless. I'm fairly sure he's scum still.
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htaeD posted...

Btw, I never did give my list yesterday. This is how I feel, with the powers on top all looking good, the inno-scanned looking better to me, and then the remaining four which I am most interested in lynching.

FD
Sheep
Chaostony
Ben
Tange
Mzero
Puns
Colzach
Crescent
Han
Scare

Kind of convient how he gives it after sheep gives his real result last night how Death gives his list
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*slaps sheep*

you guys are making me read

you cant just kill me now

I have to suffer first
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ScareChan posted...

*slaps sheep*

Thats animal abuse
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ben, I'll tell you exactly why I don't want to be on the bomb lynch :^)

I have something very important to write up, so get excited~

DoubleTangicide posted...

ScareChan posted...

*slaps sheep*

Thats animal abuse

*slaps Tange*
http://gph.is/2cBEXkM
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ColZach
7. Mzero11
8. Sheep007
10. ChaosTonyV4
11. turbopuns2
13. Forceful_Dragon
14. DoubleTangicide
16. HanOfTheNekos
17. Crescent-Moon
19. ScareChan
20. Benjamin3740
21. htaeD (Death)

MZero
Scare (Itd be simpler if MZero just took care of Scare for us, otherwise MZero is more powerful with Scare still alive, if im understanding correctly
Han
Zach
Crescent
Death

And if somehow Sheep is still alive by then, him before any of the innocent scans.

And Id pretty much only lynch you if the alternative was FD or myself.
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turbopuns2 posted...

ben, I'll tell you exactly why I don't want to be on the bomb lynch :^)

I have something very important to write up, so get excited~

oooh
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at the part where everyone is saying how I said Panth probably died from targeting ben

but if tony is scum thats definitely how panth died
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ScareChan posted...

at the part where everyone is saying how I said Panth probably died from targeting ben

but if tony is scum thats definitely how panth died

:D

Okay this is minor but

htaeD posted...

anyway

Summarizing this in present rense, since I am tired of correcting myself after the fact.

Day 4 we have:
Scare trying to set up Ben as the one Panth targeted. And while he does vote red, he keeps ISOing Ben and trying to find suspicious posts, and he throws Mzero some shade as well. Scarechan starts to give more signals of doubts towards Sultan, questioning his delay in seeing Corriks BG claim. Scare also asks stuff about PJ, which could create doubt about sheeps copclaim.

Ben immediately wants to kill red, though he also says he has to accept that Sultan could be scum.

Crescent is the first to insinuate that Panth could have targeted Sheep. A warning sign, but scum didnt know that sheep hit their RB yet, so Ill leave it at that for now. Crescent wants to kill red but also Sulta, nothing this.

Tange says he already accepted red as scum. He acts mostly confused about Panth dying and nobody being recruited.

Mzero points out that Han looks worse because he didn't vote Panth right away.

Puns says he ISO'd sultan and threw shade his way. Noting that Puns does indeed not act like he thinks Scare could be scum. And keeps agreeing with him about Ben (Puns also called EDumey town, lol)
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Red has that argument with Scare about the fake hammer. Not sure what to make of the hammer itself yet. But it doesnt read like this has to be convo between town and town.
Red then begins a full scale attack against Crescent. I dont feel to much about this, because red could have known his number was up. (Or he was hoping to be scanned, whichever)
Scare then asks red for intell on Han. Minor point against a link between Han and scum there if Scare is scum, though red doesnt give a concrete answer.

Death like never ever calls me scarechan, and its really odd that he did here even though most of the time he is calling me scare. And it has me slightly paranoid he may have copied it from scumboard or something.

I know it sounds like a stretch but just death never ever calls me that
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I was debating doing this today or going for a triumphant finisher tonight, but now Scare has forced my hand with the comment about Tony...and I can no longer risk going down with what I know.

This is probably a good time to say that I'm Town Tracker. Oh yeah that's right, I bluffed my actual role with a fake result to kill Leo. It was awesome. FD is my bro 4 lyfe.

And, I'm a special kind of Tracker. I can track TWO people each night, if I wish. However, if I choose to track two people, I can't select them directly. The two targets are randomized by Chris. Or, I can just do the one regular track and choose it myself.

Night 1, since we had minimal information and everybody was a "fine" target, I used the 2 random tracks.

Night 1
Sultan visited Panth.
EDumey went nowhere.

That's the only really immediately useful thing I have, unfortunately.

Night 2 - Han went nowhere.
Night 3 - Death went nowhere.
Night 4 - Crescent went nowhere.

When Sheep came out with the guilty on Dumey...I assumed he was going to flip ninja or some other scum role. So I just stayed quiet. Needless to say, I was very surprised to see he was actually just a plain old roleblocker.

Note that the entire reason I asked people for "ordered trust lists" (carefully chosen phrasing) was so that I could come up with a reason to make this post, without it being an obvious claim at the time:

turbopuns2 posted...

Well since we're moving on to the next day

as promised here is my ordered trust list, minus the obvious ones

1) sultan
2) han
3) death
4)

Indicating without outright claiming, that Sultan did actually visit Panth as claimed night 1, and I saw Han go nowhere on night 2 and Death go nowhere on night 3, and they both claimed vanilla. Just in case I died.

This is why I have thrown out theories of scum having multiple blocks.

This is why I bent over backwards coming up with ways for Sheep to be scum.

This is why Han thought I was "fanboying" him day 3.

And other things.

Damn Chris, we are stacked lmao
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Maybe scare jebaited me, but maybe he just tried to get too cute with his WIFOM and told us scum's secret. Day 1 was a double scum claim.

This is also why I just want to lynch Scare today to see his flip, because I wanted to see if it was something that could make a team member a ninja or something weird like that.

turbopuns2 posted...

ben, I'll tell you exactly why I don't want to be on the bomb lynch :^)

I have something very important to write up, so get excited~

0_0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTA2fxOedxo" data-time="
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Oooh important stuff

turbopuns2 posted...

Maybe scare jebaited me, but maybe he just tried to get too cute with his WIFOM and told us scum's secret. Day 1 was a double scum claim.

What?
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...Puns, are you scum?
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Edumey was roleblocker and Tony claimed roleblocked night 1. We know Eaed covered Corrik.

So isn't Tony basically confirmed scum on that alone? Holy craaaap
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anyway I just felt like the risk/reward wasn't worth it any more at this point. the chances that I caught a killer tonight were nil, and I wasn't going to go beyond tomorrow without claiming anyway

Could scum have some role that changes the scanning properties of other scum?

Crescent-Moon posted...

Could scum have some role that changes the scanning properties of other scum?

very possibly, which is a huge reason I just kept saying "kill the scum pls"

anyway I'm playing DnD tonight so I won't be around a whole lot more.

I may end up dead, idk, but I want us to lynch scare and just figure the rest out later.

turbopuns2 posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Could scum have some role that changes the scanning properties of other scum?

very possibly, which is a huge reason I just kept saying "kill the scum pls"

Wouldn't this theory also work in tandem with what I've been saying not to trust innocent scans, then?

Crescent-Moon posted...

Wouldn't this theory also work in tandem with what I've been saying not to trust innocent scans, then?

well sure. when I asked why specifically do you think there's a godfather, I specifically didn't say "well if they have a ninja they just shoot sheep without a care" and then the scene is just flip flopped and tony is left alive so "they must have a ninja?"

but I didn't want to attract scum to the fact I was thinking that way. but whatever, now the information is out there and I can die in peace if that should come to pass.

benjamin3740 posted...

Edumey was roleblocker and Tony claimed roleblocked night 1. We know Eaed covered Corrik.

So isn't Tony basically confirmed scum on that alone? Holy craaaap

Someone answer this because I might be remembering history wrong. But Puns said Edumey didn't move night 1. Tony claimed roleblocked the first two nights
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Im fairly certain Puns is Town based on how shitty he made Leo, so were missing something.

Im guessing if Town gets a custom role with MZero, scum has something weird, too.
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benjamin3740 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Edumey was roleblocker and Tony claimed roleblocked night 1. We know Eaed covered Corrik.

So isn't Tony basically confirmed scum on that alone? Holy craaaap

Someone answer this because I might be remembering history wrong. But Puns said Edumey didn't move night 1. Tony claimed roleblocked the first two nights

I was blocked the first three nights, actually.
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of course there is the world where tony is really what he claims and scare is laughing his ass off behind the scenes right now, but, that's fine. I still think it's best that I come forward today

that way we have as much time as possible for everyone to chew on it and we can come to an informed conclusion together over time instead of springing it on everyone too late and then paranoia goes crazy

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Edumey was roleblocker and Tony claimed roleblocked night 1. We know Eaed covered Corrik.

So isn't Tony basically confirmed scum on that alone? Holy craaaap

Someone answer this because I might be remembering history wrong. But Puns said Edumey didn't move night 1. Tony claimed roleblocked the first two nights

I was blocked the first three nights, actually.

Alright whatever. But that includes the first night. Why would scum roleblocker EVER take no action if not to pretend a block on his own scum team?
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