Board 8 > *high fives ~70% of gamefaqs*

(+) Yeah! (+)

Today's games are several tiers below the quality of games 15-20 years ago. They are terribly overpriced. I wouldn't play 99.99% of them for free.
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Vlado posted...

Today's games are several tiers below the quality of games 15-20 years ago.

lmao
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lol
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Would you look at that, those known for usually rejecting objective reality are rejecting objective reality again. What a shocker!

Meanwhile, disregarding rallies, games from that era dominate all the contests.
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i don't think rejecting objective reality is even in the top three things I'm known for !

Link dominates our contests too so maybe our contests aren't actually indicative of anything's quality
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Compared to today's turds, even Link is a high-quality character.
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Vlado posted...

Would you look at that, those known for usually rejecting objective reality are rejecting objective reality again. What a shocker!

Meanwhile, disregarding rallies, games from that era dominate all the contests.

"rejecting objective reality"

"If we limit the results to our tiny niche board and ignore the rest of society I'm right!"
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*goes to random person in the rest of society*

>Do you know Link?
>Yes.

>Do you know [insert recent game protagonist]?
>Who?
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*goes to random person in the rest of society*

>Do you know Fortnite?
>Yes.

>Do you know Captain Tsubasa II?
>What?

Better update that sig!
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Vlado posted...

*goes to random person in the rest of society*

>Do you know Link?
>Yes.

>Do you know [insert recent game protagonist]?
>Who?

goes to random person in the rest of society

Do you know Tifa?
who

Do you know Freddy from Five Nights at Freddy's?
oh yeah love that bear
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MZero11 posted...

*goes to random person in the rest of society*

>Do you know Fortnite?
>Nope.

ftfy

MZero11 posted...

>Do you know Captain Tsubasa II?
>What?

Better update that sig!

The sig is precisely so that people who do not know it give it a try. :)
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*goes to random person in the rest of society*

>Do you know Fortnite?
>Nope.

Vlado, I don't think you're living in the same society as the rest of us

I mean you literally live in a different society than we do because you're in Bulgaria. Everyone living in the first world has heard of Fortnite.
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lmfao, imagine actually believing that.
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My favorite thing about vlado is his assumption that his anecdote is the one and only Truth, and that nothing exists outside of the world beyond what his eyes can see.
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Peace___Frog posted...

My favorite thing about vlado is his assumption that his anecdote is the one and only Truth, and that nothing exists outside of the world beyond what his eyes can see.

Would you look at that, those known for usually rejecting objective reality are rejecting objective reality again. What a shocker!

Is this the most ironic post in b8 history
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Yeah, keep believing that your flavour of the month game is a timeless classic. lmfao
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fortnite has literally been in the news several times, at least in my country.
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Oh wow, it's been in the news several times! Surely everyone knows about it! Because people remember everything that's ever appeared in the news.
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probably not everyone but i'd guess plenty of people have heard of it, yeah. certainly enough that i wouldn't assume that if i'd ask a random person on the street if they've heard of it i'd get a resolute "nope."
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Literally no one called it a timeless classic. I'd argue that tastes in games are so diverse these days that there's no longer such a thing as a timeless classic. That's not due to a decrease in quality, it's due to *gasp* people liking different things!

If you want to ignore the impact that Fortnite has had - when it literally inspired the celebrations of players in the World Cup - then that's you putting horse blinders over your face.
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Maybe if you ask a random man in his teens, 20s or early 30s, there's a halfway decent chance they know it. That's about it.
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Vlado, this may shock you, but even preteen girls who don't play games know about it.

Just accept the fact that you live in a backwater country, and you know less about the scene than you wish.
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Keep telling yourself that. The fact remains that today's games are really bad in comparison to games from 15-20 years ago.
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I don't think there's any difference in quality between present games and games from decades ago. I do think they're too expensive though. There are a couple games released today that I'd be willing to spend 60 dollars on, but many more that I would not be willing to shell out that kind of money for. It would have been the same in the past too, the difference being of course that back then I wasn't the one paying for my games.
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Vlado posted...

The fact remains that today's games are really bad in comparison to games from 15-20 years ago.

Lmao

Somebody still has their nostalgia glasses on.

Oldmanyellsatcloud.jpeg much
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Oh wow, nobody saw the "nostalgia" excuse coming!
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Vlado posted...

The fact remains that today's games are really bad in comparison to games from 15-20 years ago.

How exactly
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I mean I agree with Vlados premise, but there's always exceptions to the rule. Super Mario Odyssey for example. That game will live on like Galaxy, Mario 64, Sunshine (it's amazing fight me). Top tier quality game.

As for flavour of the month sure fortnite is no different than when the next his FPS or whatever arrives for the preeteen / teen crowd but at the same time that's what the vast majority of gamers want.

Everyone's version of quality is different anyways so this argument was silly from the beginning
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Vlado posted...

Maybe if you ask a random man in his teens, 20s or early 30s, there's a halfway decent chance they know it. That's about it.

and you think my grandma HAS heard of ocarina of time?
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MZero11 posted...

Vlado posted...

The fact remains that today's games are really bad in comparison to games from 15-20 years ago.

How exactly

I think maybe he's talking about games that become best sellers and will be relative for years to come. Back in the glory days it was typically RPGs and action games.

Today it's mainly flavor of the month FPSs and whatever else the peach fuzz mashes swallow up.

That doesn't mean amazing games aren't still made Vlado they just might not be in the limelight all day

Unless we're talking about sonic games then yes they are trash now and have been for over a decade
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My 12 year old sister loves Fortnite. My buddy at work, his hot girlfriend loves Fortnite.

I've met old people who know what Fortnite is.

Yeah I hate Fortnite too, vladdy. It doesn't change the objective reality that everyone knows what the game is.
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AquaArcane posted...

My 12 year old sister loves Fortnite. My buddy at work, his hot girlfriend loves Fortnite.

I've met old people who know what Fortnite is.

Yeah I hate Fortnite too, vladdy. It doesn't change the objective reality that everyone knows what the game is.

There's more casuals than hardcore.

This is true for almost anything in life.

Dont hate on the casuals. Just be happy knowing you're not amazed by lame crap like fortnite
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FlyingForever posted...

I mean I agree with Vlados premise, but there's always exceptions to the rule. Super Mario Odyssey for example.

I agree with that - even today, there are still a handful of quality games, mostly from Japan and Poland. But they are exceptions in an ocean of mediocrity.
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Jesus is Vlado really arguing people don't know what Fortnite is?

My 90 year old neighbor knows what Fortnite is. Hell he probably doesn't even know who Mario is and he knows what Fortnite is.
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the point of which itself is a distraction from the fact that vlado was saying

well-known == amazing

earlier in the topic
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banananor posted...

the point of which itself is a distraction from the fact that vlado was saying

well known == amazing

earlier in the topic

it's not a distraction, it's an illustration for why it's bullshit.

vlado: "well known = amazing"

fortnite is well known.

ergo fortnite, a game vlado hates, is amazing (???).
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

vlado: "well known = amazing"

Nope.

Vlado posted...

Keep telling yourself that. The fact remains that today's games are really bad in comparison to games from 15-20 years ago.

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the argument as to whether or not fortnite was well known in the first place was a bit of a smoke grenade on the discussion

is what i meant

it should've just been readily accepted background information
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Vlado posted...

MZero11 posted...

*goes to random person in the rest of society*

>Do you know Fortnite?
>Nope.

ftfy

Vlado posted...

Oh wow, it's been in the news several times! Surely everyone knows about it! Because people remember everything that's ever appeared in the news.

Vlado posted...

Maybe if you ask a random man in his teens, 20s or early 30s, there's a halfway decent chance they know it. That's about it.

Vlado posted...

Keep telling yourself that. The fact remains that today's games are really bad in comparison to games from 15-20 years ago.

"Nobody has heard of Fortnite!" -> "ok maybe a few people in this demographic have heard of Fortnite" -> "no shut up though it's still a really bad game"

This was an amazing process to watch in the same topic
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keep telling myself what? I'M not saying fortnite is amazing, i'm saying you are, going by the logic you're using.

are you arguing with yourself?
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Tokoyami posted...

"Nobody has heard of Fortnite!" -> "ok maybe a few people in this demographic have heard of Fortnite"

Except I never argued that nobody heard of Fortnite, just that it's a flavour of the month game that nobody will care about after some time passes.

The main problem is most people can't make a distinction between well-known today and well-known 20 years from now. Alas, that's the material I argue with.
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banananor posted...

the argument as to whether or not fortnite was well known in the first place was a bit of a smoke grenade on the discussion

is what i meant

it should've just been readily accepted background information

ah ok.
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Vlado posted...

The main problem is most people can't make a distinction between well-known today and well-known 20 years from now.

captain tsubasa ii isn't well known today. neither was it well known 20 years ago, for that matter. must be a terrible game.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

I mean you literally live in a different society than we do because you're in Bulgaria. Everyone living in the first world has heard of Fortnite.

There's no doubt that everyone in Bulgaria knows what Fortnite is, except for much older people. Other countries play online games WAY more than the US.

Vlado just hasn't interacted with any real people in years
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f0olmor0n posted...

Vlado just hasn't interacted with any real people in years

foolmo finally admitting no one on gamefaqs is real
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TheRock1525 posted...

f0olmor0n posted...

Vlado just hasn't interacted with any real people in years

foolmo finally admitting no one on gamefaqs is real

I think hes claiming that Vlado doesnt actually interact with us.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Vlado posted...

The main problem is most people can't make a distinction between well-known today and well-known 20 years from now.

captain tsubasa ii isn't well known today. neither was it well known 20 years ago, for that matter. must be a terrible game.

Nope, try again.

Since I'm in a generous mood, I'll spell it out for you. It's called "the test of time." If a game is super popular today, but nobody cares about it in 20 years, it's obviously not very good. If a game was super popular 20 years ago, and is beloved even today, it's obviously done something right.

Does anybody today care about whichever Call of Duty was all the rage 5 years ago? Nope. Do people care about Final Fantasy VII and Ocarina of Time? Yes.

Of course, that does not apply to games which were never popular. Achieving popularity is only partially related to quality.
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Also isn't it a coincidence that everything was great when you were a kid, and then it sucks as an adult?

Its like the entire globalist machine got together and decided to start turning everything to shit on the day of your 16th birthday just to spite you. They forced you to grow out of something you loved.
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I mean people still consider Call of Duty 4 one of the best shooters so
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f0olmor0n posted...

Also isn't it a coincidence that everything was great when you were a kid, and then it sucks as an adult?

Its like the entire globalist machine got together and decided to start turning everything to shit on the day of your 16th birthday just to spite you. They forced you to grow out of something you loved.

A slightly longer and pseudo-intellectual ( foolmo) way to cry "nostalgia."

There was a lot of low-quality content already when I was a kid, but also a decent amount of high-quality content, much more than today. One clear example that it's not about nostalgia is that there are games from that era which I play for the first time today, and appreciate all the same. One of the simple explanations: creativity and risk - they were rewarded back then. Now, it's about whatever can be sold to the most suckers.

Another explanation is Japan's shift towards mobile gaming.

Another one is the fact that small teams create better products, you can't expect something amazing from the current AAA titles with 1000s of people involved.

Of course, the SJW infestation of North American game companies has also contributed to this collapse. But it's still secondary to the absolute rejection of creativity in the endless quest for money.
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