Poll of the Day > Alabama Couple Hang a BLACK MAN being LYNCHED but thought it was a BURNED MAN!!!

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mrduckbear
10/08/18 11:09:41 PM
#1:


Do you believe these people's cover story? - Results (9 votes)
Yes
44.44% (4 votes)
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No
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Alexus Cumbie posted a horrifying Halloween display outside in Alabama that appears to show a black man being lynched from a TREE that has sparked outrage in the community!!

She posted the "sickening" display outside the town of Homewood as the owner REFUSED to take it down. Alexus said "I'm encouraging everyone to share this post until Birmingham news outlet cover this. I'm not encouraging violence nor harassment on this homeowner. let's not meet bigotry at eye level but also let's publicly condemn acts of racism in our beloved neighborhoods".

Jennifer and Marc Wolfe denied having refused to take down the distasteful item down and said they removed it after public pressure

Marc said "We're not racist. Did i make a mistake? I guess so. I can see critics point but we just hung it because that's how it came. If they want to say we're insensitive and should have known better, i'll own up to that"

They said they bought it assuming it was a white man who was just BADLY BURNED and had no idea that it was a black man..

Do you believe their cover story?

The offending display -

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2018/10/08/20/4867098-6253893-image-m-61_1539027481301.jpg
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Revelation34
10/08/18 11:19:24 PM
#2:


Lol they're so full of shit.
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Kyuubi4269
10/08/18 11:19:38 PM
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It looks like a horror prop to me.
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Steven010702
10/09/18 1:09:31 AM
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Looks like a zombie to me.
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EnvyFox
10/09/18 1:15:07 AM
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Yeah looks like a zombie to me, too. Nothing wrong here, IMO.
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Zeus
10/09/18 1:20:58 AM
#6:


...that clearly looks like either a burn victim or rotting corpse. Anybody who might mistake that for a black man is probably racist.
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xjayguyx
10/09/18 2:00:09 AM
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LinkPizza
10/09/18 2:07:18 AM
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Looks like a corpse to me... So, I guess zombie...
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wwinterj25
10/09/18 2:27:00 AM
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That's a odd looking black fella.
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Kyuubi4269
10/09/18 2:30:27 AM
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wwinterj25 posted...
That's a odd looking black fella.

It's what the KKK sees.
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Smiffwilm
10/09/18 3:36:56 AM
#11:


Steven010702 posted...
Looks like a zombie to me.

EnvyFox posted...
Yeah looks like a zombie to me, too. Nothing wrong here, IMO.

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Looks like a corpse to me... So, I guess zombie...

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Pus_N_Pecans
10/09/18 11:20:27 AM
#12:


Its a zombie thing, but its still clearly intended to be a racist prop. Nobody puts Halloween props that look like a lynching without being aware of the racial connotations involved with doing so.

Lynching isnt even something associated with Halloween.
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Nade Duck
10/09/18 12:15:13 PM
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it's a fuckin hanging zombie prop dude, those things are common as hell.
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Zeus
10/09/18 12:19:04 PM
#14:


Pus_N_Pecans posted...
Its a zombie thing, but its still clearly intended to be a racist prop.


...what?

Pus_N_Pecans posted...
Nobody puts Halloween props that look like a lynching without being aware of the racial connotations involved with doing so.

Lynching isnt even something associated with Halloween.


Murder, death, etc, aren't things associated with Halloween...? Not to mention that all hangings aren't lynching in the first place. Hangings is a historically common form of suicide (in fact, it's infinitely more common as a suicide these days), as well as non-angry mob murders.
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Kyuubi4269
10/09/18 12:53:03 PM
#15:


Zeus posted...
Murder, death, etc, aren't things associated with Halloween...?

Technically no, Hallowe'en is about being at the closest time to the spirit world so it's more the presence of spirits, undead and magic.
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Solid Sonic
10/09/18 1:07:52 PM
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I believe that they believe that it's not in bad taste.

What I would say is that have some goddamn sense. I get what you're doing for the spirit of the season but try to avoid anything with a noose, it's bound to be interpreted negatively by someone.
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Solid Sonic
10/09/18 1:11:08 PM
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Also I like the "let's not meet bigotry at eye level" statement. Rather eloquent way to make a point.
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pedro45
10/09/18 1:35:56 PM
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That's sad.
Reminds me of when I was painting my face for a football game and someone told me to wipe it off before I was finished cause it looked blackface.
If I was done, that'd be one thing but I was adding bright yellow and blue to my face as well...
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green dragon
10/09/18 1:42:11 PM
#19:


Context is everything.

They are in Alabama. The doll has darkish skin. It's hanging from a tree.

While I don't think it was intended to be racist, I can kinda see why some people might think it's racist.
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Zareth
10/09/18 2:48:00 PM
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Zeus posted...
Not to mention that all hangings aren't lynching in the first place. Hangings is a historically common form of suicide (in fact, it's infinitely more common as a suicide these days), as well as non-angry mob murders.

Hanging is also the most used form of execution in most countries in the world.
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Zeus
10/09/18 3:00:44 PM
#21:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Zeus posted...
Murder, death, etc, aren't things associated with Halloween...?

Technically no, Hallowe'en is about being at the closest time to the spirit world so it's more the presence of spirits, undead and magic.


That's going back to Samhain. Halloween's identity moved far, far, far away from its pagan roots that Bible-thumpers still bash today.

Solid Sonic posted...
Also I like the "let's not meet bigotry at eye level" statement. Rather eloquent way to make a point.


Given that the protest is fundamentally wrong in the first place, it just makes her comment even sillier.

green dragon posted...
Context is everything.

They are in Alabama. The doll has darkish skin. It's hanging from a tree.

While I don't think it was intended to be racist, I can kinda see why some people might think it's racist.


The problem is people are looking to be offended nowadays. They're Jonesing for an outrage fix and, when they can't find anything legitimate, they try to misconstrue anything they can in a vainglorious attempt to demonstrate their perceived holier-than-thou virtue.

And, in general, hanging has a very long historical practice throughout the entire world. It lacks the context of, for example, a display featuring a mannequin in an oven in Germany.
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green dragon
10/09/18 6:31:30 PM
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Zeus posted...
The problem is people are looking to be offended nowadays. They're Jonesing for an outrage fix and, when they can't find anything legitimate, they try to misconstrue anything they can in a vainglorious attempt to demonstrate their perceived holier-than-thou virtue.

maybe, just maybe, people were actually offended
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Revelation34
10/09/18 6:44:35 PM
#23:


Zeus posted...
...that clearly looks like either a burn victim or rotting corpse. Anybody who might mistake that for a black man is probably racist.


Lol.
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EnvyFox
10/09/18 8:27:20 PM
#24:


pedro45 posted...
That's sad.
Reminds me of when I was painting my face for a football game and someone told me to wipe it off before I was finished cause it looked blackface.
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Zeus
10/09/18 8:32:23 PM
#25:


green dragon posted...
Zeus posted...
The problem is people are looking to be offended nowadays. They're Jonesing for an outrage fix and, when they can't find anything legitimate, they try to misconstrue anything they can in a vainglorious attempt to demonstrate their perceived holier-than-thou virtue.

maybe, just maybe, people were actually offended


If so, it was only because they were looking to be offended. If your default mindset is to look for things to offend you, you'll have no problem finding them.
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SunWuKung420
10/09/18 8:36:54 PM
#26:


That definitely looks like a lynched black man.

If you're going to do burned bodies, why are they hanging? You burn bodies on piles of wood, not hanging from trees.

Besides, this is just another fake news, social dividing propaganda story to distract us from important things and to keep us from uniting.

Also, the decorators are racist. No one makes that mistake innocently. That's like saying Europeans colonists didn't adopt a culture of "rape all the savage women we want".
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Zeus
10/09/18 8:46:59 PM
#27:


SunWuKung420 posted...
That definitely looks like a lynched black man.


The fact that you see that as a black man says a lot more about you than the homeowners.

SunWuKung420 posted...
If you're going to do burned bodies, why are they hanging? You burn bodies on piles of wood, not hanging from trees.


How else are you supposed to display a half-torso? It's a hanging decoration. The noose is a logical choice.

SunWuKung420 posted...
Besides, this is just another fake news, social dividing propaganda story to distract us from important things and to keep us from uniting.


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SunWuKung420 posted...

Also, the decorators are racist. No one makes that mistake innocently. That's like saying Europeans colonists didn't adopt a culture of "rape all the savage women we want".


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IronicFool
10/09/18 8:54:58 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...
...that clearly looks like either a burn victim or rotting corpse. Anybody who might mistake that for a black man is probably racist.


Lol.

SunWuKung420 posted...
That definitely looks like a lynched black man.

If you're going to do burned bodies, why are they hanging? You burn bodies on piles of wood, not hanging from trees.

Besides, this is just another fake news, social dividing propaganda story to distract us from important things and to keep us from uniting.

Also, the decorators are racist. No one makes that mistake innocently. That's like saying Europeans colonists didn't adopt a culture of "rape all the savage women we want".


These guys know what's up. Just look at the prop. It's clearly meant to be some sort of racist dog whistle. Fortunately, people are starting to be able to interpret dog whistles. Besides, how can you look at that and NOT see a black man? Anyone who looks at this and doesn't see a black man hanging from a tree is clearly racist and needs to pay more attention to race.
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Zeus
10/09/18 9:00:07 PM
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You have a really weird gimmick.
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Pus_N_Pecans
10/09/18 9:23:00 PM
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Zeus posted...
Murder, death, etc, aren't things associated with Halloween...? Not to mention that all hangings aren't lynching in the first place. Hangings is a historically common form of suicide (in fact, it's infinitely more common as a suicide these days), as well as non-angry mob murders.

Literally no one associates lynching with Halloween. If you were to conduct a poll on what symbols people commonly associate with Halloween, there's almost no doubt in my mind that nooses wouldn't even manage to crack the top 500. We can make the argument that these people just have a "unique" view on Halloween and what constitutes an innocent prop, but I think it's far more likely, as a couple living in Alabama, that they aren't completely ignorant to the history of the hangman's noose.

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IronicFool
10/09/18 9:39:38 PM
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Zeus posted...
You have a really weird gimmick.

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Zareth
10/09/18 9:51:55 PM
#33:


Pus_N_Pecans posted...
If you were to conduct a poll on what symbols people commonly associate with Halloween, there's almost no doubt in my mind that nooses wouldn't even manage to crack the top 500.

Uhh, yeah it would. 500 is a LOT of symbols.
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Zeus
10/09/18 11:20:21 PM
#34:


Pus_N_Pecans posted...
Zeus posted...
Murder, death, etc, aren't things associated with Halloween...? Not to mention that all hangings aren't lynching in the first place. Hangings is a historically common form of suicide (in fact, it's infinitely more common as a suicide these days), as well as non-angry mob murders.

Literally no one associates lynching with Halloween.


Again, it's a hanging. Lynching is your projection on it. And people DO associate dead bodies with Halloween, which is why they bought that prop at a Halloween store and that's probably also where they bought the noose.

Pus_N_Pecans posted...
If you were to conduct a poll on what symbols people commonly associate with Halloween, there's almost no doubt in my mind that nooses wouldn't even manage to crack the top 500.


Overlooking that your claim is blatantly false, it's also a silly, disingenuous argument. There are thousands of Halloween decorations. Nobody is limited to cardboard cutouts of ghosts (which, by the way, some idiot would STILL be offended by, possibly even seeing it as a KKK member)

Pus_N_Pecans posted...
We can make the argument that these people just have a "unique" view on Halloween and what constitutes an innocent prop, .


If it's sold in a Halloween store, it's an innocent prop. That's not a mannequin, that's a specifically designed prop and, given that it's just an upper torso, it's clearly designed to be hung. Nor is there anything particularly unique about it, given how often hanged corpses appear in cheesy haunted houses. If anything, it's a pretty hack move.

Pus_N_Pecans posted...
but I think it's far more likely, as a couple living in Alabama, that they aren't completely ignorant to the history of the hangman's noose..


Given that the hanging has been a method of execution for thousands of years -- including countless white men in Alabama (not as often white women) -- I think you're the one ignorant to its history.

Pus_N_Pecans posted...
*Also, that doesn't look anything like a suicide hanging, so that's not really a valid point either.


Because you're so familiar with hanging suicides? >_> Overlooking that by that logic it doesn't look like a lynching either, it's worth noting that when somebody kills themselves and the body just hangs there it decomposes. People hanging themselves in forests aren't often found fresh unless they picked a populated area.
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HelIWithoutSin
10/09/18 11:24:59 PM
#35:


Zeus posted...
given that it's just an upper torso, it's clearly designed to be hung.


I'd say it's meant to be placed on the ground as if climbing out of a grave.
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wwinterj25
10/09/18 11:54:48 PM
#36:


green dragon posted...
maybe, just maybe, people were actually offended


Some folk no doubt were. My response to that? I still don't give a fuck. Honestly it's impossible not to offended someone these days so why bother trying to please them?

SunWuKung420 posted...
That definitely looks like a lynched black man.


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Zeus
10/10/18 12:23:12 AM
#37:


HelIWithoutSin posted...
Zeus posted...
given that it's just an upper torso, it's clearly designed to be hung.


I'd say it's meant to be placed on the ground as if climbing out of a grave.


It doesn't seem to have arms, how could it climb out of the grave? Speaking of, when somebody is hanged by a third party -- executioner, murderer, lynch mob, whatever -- the victim's arms would be tied behind their back to prevent them from trying to undo the noose. The absence of that further dispels the ridiculous idea that it could be a lynch victim.
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HelIWithoutSin
10/10/18 12:25:00 AM
#38:


Zeus posted...
HelIWithoutSin posted...
Zeus posted...
given that it's just an upper torso, it's clearly designed to be hung.


I'd say it's meant to be placed on the ground as if climbing out of a grave.


It doesn't seem to have arms, how could it climb out of the grave? Speaking of, when somebody is hanged by a third party -- executioner, murderer, lynch mob, whatever -- the victim's arms would be tied behind their back to prevent them from trying to undo the noose. The absence of that further dispels the ridiculous idea that it could be a lynch victim.


You can see part of its right hand in the split of the cuff. You can also make out the darker area of the sleeve that matches the darker area of the chest where the torso is.
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OhhhJa
10/10/18 1:41:24 AM
#39:


mrduckbear posted...
Marc said "We're not racist. Did i make a mistake? I guess so. I can see critics point but we just hung it because that's how it came. If they want to say we're insensitive and should have known better, i'll own up to that"

They said they bought it assuming it was a white man who was just BADLY BURNED and had no idea that it was a black man..

That all sounds perfectly rational to me. And yes it does in fact look like a burned corpse. Last I checked, skeletons dont have skin color. Man, sunwu chooses the weirdest times to make a sad attempt at virtue signaling
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Revelation34
10/10/18 2:32:15 AM
#40:


Zeus posted...
Again, it's a hanging. Lynching is your projection on it. And people DO associate dead bodies with Halloween, which is why they bought that prop at a Halloween store and that's probably also where they bought the noose.


Literally nobody associates hanging/lynching with Halloween.
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OhhhJa
10/10/18 2:33:52 AM
#41:


Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...
Again, it's a hanging. Lynching is your projection on it. And people DO associate dead bodies with Halloween, which is why they bought that prop at a Halloween store and that's probably also where they bought the noose.


Literally nobody associates hanging/lynching with Halloween.

Dude people literally associate all sorts of things related to death with Halloween. That's not very out of the ordinary for more eccentric halloween decorators tbh
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Revelation34
10/10/18 2:34:58 AM
#42:


OhhhJa posted...
Dude people literally associate all sorts of things related to death with Halloween. That's not very out of the ordinary for more eccentric halloween decorators tbh


I said literally nobody.
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Kyuubi4269
10/10/18 2:35:13 AM
#43:


Zeus posted...
when somebody is hanged by a third party -- executioner, murderer, lynch mob, whatever -- the victim's arms would be tied behind their back to prevent them from trying to undo the noose.

A noose is only untied by pulling the neck hole through the knot.
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10/10/18 3:04:14 AM
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SunWuKung420
10/10/18 7:08:34 AM
#45:


You'd have to be one asshole of a racist to drive by that dark, shadowed thing hanging from a tree and think, "it's just a burned man", without getting a real close look at it, or to defend this couple.

Today, I'm going to buy a mannequin, wrap a towel around its head, it's body in a dark bath robe and hang it from a tree. I swear it's just a cheap version of this guy.
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green dragon
10/10/18 7:45:30 AM
#46:


wwinterj25 posted...
Some folk no doubt were. My response to that? I still don't give a fuck. Honestly it's impossible not to offended someone these days so why bother trying to please them?

Yeah, that's cool, you have every right to not care. But Zeus is trying to claim that everyone that is offended by the doll is looking for something to be upset about, which I disagree with.
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Kyuubi4269
10/10/18 8:08:55 AM
#47:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Today, I'm going to buy a mannequin, wrap a towel around its head, it's body in a dark bath robe and hang it from a tree. I swear it's just a cheap version of this guy.

1) He's wearing a suit
2) There's no context to hang an effigy of him
3) Dead things on halloween isn't unusual.
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OhhhJa
10/10/18 10:13:11 AM
#48:


SunWuKung420 posted...
You'd have to be one a****** of a racist to drive by that dark, shadowed thing hanging from a tree and think, "it's just a burned man", without getting a real close look at it, or to defend this couple.

Or you could just accept that their explanation seemed perfectly rational and that maybe some people dont try to see racism in everything. And there's also the irony of the people stereotyping people from Alabama and saying that the couples location alone plays a factor in this story.

Once again, it looks like a burned corpse. Skeletons dont have skin tone.
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pedro45
10/10/18 11:43:54 AM
#49:


EnvyFox posted...
pedro45 posted...
That's sad.
Reminds me of when I was painting my face for a football game and someone told me to wipe it off before I was finished cause it looked blackface.
If I was done, that'd be one thing but I was adding bright yellow and blue to my face as well...

Did you wipe the face paint off or did you tell them it wasn't finished yet?

I wiped it off. I pleaded my case, but some people don't get sports. There's only so much you can do to try to tell someone to not be offended.
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LinkPizza
10/10/18 12:20:57 PM
#50:


It's around Halloween, so my first thought would definitely be corpse. People saying you have to racist to not see a black man sound racist themselves. I'm not saying they are, but they sure sound like it...
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Nade Duck
10/10/18 2:32:13 PM
#51:


jfc how have people not seen any Halloween decorations like this for the past 40 fuckin years

fuck the internet
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