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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:03:01 PM
#251:


Obellisk posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
I have no scan to report.


Why


Because I had no option to scan anyone last night.
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benjamin3740
10/21/18 10:04:52 PM
#252:


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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:05:34 PM
#253:


Okay can we please not spam that, it is super annoying.
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benjamin3740
10/21/18 10:07:18 PM
#254:


Also I guess that flavor confirms Plum was town, because I was really confused at first.

Bah. Oh well, I don't think there was any way I was voting anyone else other than Chris yesterday

And Mzero strikes me as the calculated type who would try to NOT hammer town like that as scum. But maybe he can tell me whether that's true or not
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:07:25 PM
#255:


Plum basically lost his mind this game, from day 1 siding with Pirate for a "no lynch" (as if that would happen in OT anyway) to just everything. I felt a little worried when he admitted to not wanting to sign up for the game in the first place but at that point he had gone full insane on me so I mean really.
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:08:00 PM
#256:


benjamin3740 posted...
Also I guess that flavor confirms Plum was town, because I was really confused at first.

Bah. Oh well, I don't think there was any way I was voting anyone else other than Chris yesterday

And Mzero strikes me as the calculated type who would try to NOT hammer town like that as scum. But maybe he can tell me whether that's true or not


Consensus lynch, Ben. That's pretty null either way.
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HanOfTheNekos
10/21/18 10:09:35 PM
#257:


I was not expecting this day to start tonight.

Chris, can you be a little more clear with your "no option to scan someone" claim?
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ScareChan
10/21/18 10:10:29 PM
#258:


plum is pure trash and somehow found a way to make things even worse as day went on and couldnt even clear his shit up before he died

good riddance
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benjamin3740
10/21/18 10:10:34 PM
#259:


Alright the game is 13 people big. Probably 3 scum, 10 town, and not 4 scum 9 town. Does IGCD look at a list of the players and have

1. TOWN Daycop (The only kind of cop stronger than cop)
2. TOWN Jack (With two kinds of scans)
3. Another Town scanner because I don't have enough scanning

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red13n
10/21/18 10:11:07 PM
#260:


benjamin3740 posted...
Also I guess that flavor confirms Plum was town, because I was really confused at first.


plum wasn't scum?

I'm confused now.
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MZero11
10/21/18 10:11:28 PM
#261:


I wasn't going to deal with plum walls of kill Chris in all caps for another day. It's a shame he was actually town but it was a waste of a slot at that point

##Vote: FD

Back to killing scum
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ScareChan
10/21/18 10:11:47 PM
#262:


yeah, I thought plum was scum but flavor says he is town
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ScareChan
10/21/18 10:12:44 PM
#263:


and we dont even know for sure what the fuck plum was

because it sounds like jailkeeper
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benjamin3740
10/21/18 10:12:58 PM
#264:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Obellisk posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
I have no scan to report.


Why


Because I had no option to scan anyone last night.

Oh great. You're gonna claim Odd Night Prostitute because you are fully aware there's too much scanning. Convenient ):
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:13:04 PM
#265:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
I was not expecting this day to start tonight.

Chris, can you be a little more clear with your "no option to scan someone" claim?


On night 2, I was powerless. I am not confirming or denying if I am powerless further into the game or not.
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MZero11
10/21/18 10:13:06 PM
#266:


benjamin3740 posted...
And Mzero strikes me as the calculated type who would try to NOT hammer town like that as scum. But maybe he can tell me whether that's true or not


this is 100% true but it's WIFOM coming from me, because of course I would say it's true >_>
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HanOfTheNekos
10/21/18 10:14:28 PM
#267:


Ben and Scare, clarify - you don't know for sure the other is Town?
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:14:37 PM
#268:


Hey Ben.

DoomTheGyarados posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
By the way it's real interesting Chris voted with Neab and all that and didn't think Day Cop + Flavor Cop + Prostitute was too much scanning :X


You are way too observant for town's good.

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benjamin3740
10/21/18 10:14:39 PM
#269:


red13n posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Also I guess that flavor confirms Plum was town, because I was really confused at first.


plum wasn't scum?

I'm confused now.

The flavor says he's town and we made a mistake.
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HanOfTheNekos
10/21/18 10:14:48 PM
#270:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I was not expecting this day to start tonight.

Chris, can you be a little more clear with your "no option to scan someone" claim?


On night 2, I was powerless. I am not confirming or denying if I am powerless further into the game or not.


dislike
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:15:32 PM
#271:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I was not expecting this day to start tonight.

Chris, can you be a little more clear with your "no option to scan someone" claim?


On night 2, I was powerless. I am not confirming or denying if I am powerless further into the game or not.


dislike


I don't care <_<
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HanOfTheNekos
10/21/18 10:15:48 PM
#272:


yes you do
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benjamin3740
10/21/18 10:16:27 PM
#273:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hey Ben.

DoomTheGyarados posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
By the way it's real interesting Chris voted with Neab and all that and didn't think Day Cop + Flavor Cop + Prostitute was too much scanning :X


You are way too observant for town's good.

I know. And it's still too much for me to believe!
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:16:36 PM
#274:


No because what I said is the good play. If you don't like it then reinvent mafia theory crafting.
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ScareChan
10/21/18 10:17:37 PM
#275:


Neablis over Chris

just feeding into plum spam or is there something there
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:18:12 PM
#276:


benjamin3740 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hey Ben.

DoomTheGyarados posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
By the way it's real interesting Chris voted with Neab and all that and didn't think Day Cop + Flavor Cop + Prostitute was too much scanning :X


You are way too observant for town's good.

I know. And it's still too much for me to believe!


We don't know what scum has tbh. Trying to meta without any sense of perspective is really bad.

Willing to bet it involves a godfather, a flavor godfather, and at least a limited ninja though!
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benjamin3740
10/21/18 10:18:37 PM
#277:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Ben and Scare, clarify - you don't know for sure the other is Town?

We do know for sure. Well I guess the PM doesn't specify, but it should be a guarantee when you're Masons and not Neighbors
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ScareChan
10/21/18 10:18:52 PM
#278:


redirector pretty strong in 13
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:19:04 PM
#279:


ScareChan posted...
Neablis over Chris

just feeding into plum spam or is there something there


From a role perspective flavor cop is much more potent than prosty, and frankly everyone has done a good job of admitting they kind of want to stab me. You guys invent your own rule 1 situations sometimes!
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:19:35 PM
#280:


benjamin3740 posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Ben and Scare, clarify - you don't know for sure the other is Town?

We do know for sure. Well I guess the PM doesn't specify, but it should be a guarantee when you're Masons and not Neighbors


That's what I thought about people knowing I targeted them. I would ask!
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ScareChan
10/21/18 10:20:27 PM
#281:


benjamin3740 posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Ben and Scare, clarify - you don't know for sure the other is Town?

We do know for sure. Well I guess the PM doesn't specify, but it should be a guarantee when you're Masons and not Neighbors


literally me and ben

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCe2q97vK0Q" data-time="

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Forceful_Dragon
10/21/18 10:21:19 PM
#282:


Plum - High Priest(Rolestopper) LD2


I'm confused.

Is that town flavor or scum flavor? The lack of clarification is actually dumb.

Results are supposed to say TOWN (or HUMAN) X aren't they?

Rolestopper sounds like it could be either alignment and high priest isn't telling of alignmentn either.

.

I think we can assume he was town though, which to me means Chris is the right lynch today.

But it's hard to reconcile Chris trading himself for plum in that spot.

Also relevant is what neab's flip really means. I'll iso neab at some point, because I'm still not entirely clear on the whole sheep cult leader thing.
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benjamin3740
10/21/18 10:21:25 PM
#283:


ScareChan posted...
Neablis over Chris

just feeding into plum spam or is there something there

The argument could be made that they saw Neab's power as too much of a threat that they had to kill him first. But regardless....

In the last game Chris had the entire game figured out day 2. All of yesterday in which he was supposedly home, he played follow the scans. First at Sheep and then at Plum
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red13n
10/21/18 10:22:01 PM
#284:


ScareChan posted...
Neablis over Chris

just feeding into plum spam or is there something there


Neab dying makes me a bit nervous here.
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:23:33 PM
#285:


Anyway hmm.

This much town scanning leads me to believe its 4 scum tbh. Redirector is quite strong true but town has:

A good jack
a very strong doctor
day cop
Prosty
Masons

so that's 6 non vanillas.

So I am going out on a LIMB and saying that its 6 power, 3 vanilla vs 4 scum. Redirector was likely the blocker-type. And then probably a couple of roles that mitigate town scanners and something with abilities? A jack in their own right with a ninja kill maybe?
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red13n
10/21/18 10:23:52 PM
#286:


benjamin3740 posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Ben and Scare, clarify - you don't know for sure the other is Town?

We do know for sure. Well I guess the PM doesn't specify, but it should be a guarantee when you're Masons and not Neighbors


ben you really need to ask the host and give a definite answer here.

Scare gave me a definite answer and now I'm more worried than I was before.

(If you are both scum, grats)
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:26:11 PM
#287:


benjamin3740 posted...
ScareChan posted...
Neablis over Chris

just feeding into plum spam or is there something there

The argument could be made that they saw Neab's power as too much of a threat that they had to kill him first. But regardless....

In the last game Chris had the entire game figured out day 2. All of yesterday in which he was supposedly home, he played follow the scans. First at Sheep and then at Plum


I was super hyped for ADWD. My hyped game vs not hyped game skill is a bit different. I can't be god mode every game okay! Plus this is also not true. I was wrong about a few things in that game as of day 2, namely Death and ironically thinking Plum looked good. Plum is a bit of a mystery to me sometimes and I get paranoid about him. It's why I scanned him this game. Also I actually object to 'follow the scan' I didn't lynch Plum because he got up. I lynched scum because he lost his shit.

Also horrible look by FD to come in and say I am the good lynch because Plum was town... um... why exactly? Because Plum, the guy clearly being trash, said so? Because I delivered a result? I don't get it!
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benjamin3740
10/21/18 10:26:11 PM
#288:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hey Ben.

DoomTheGyarados posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
By the way it's real interesting Chris voted with Neab and all that and didn't think Day Cop + Flavor Cop + Prostitute was too much scanning :X


You are way too observant for town's good.

Day 1. Chris claims Miller , because he values his survival as important this game.

Day 2. Chris is disappointed that I'm outing he may be not as powerful as he's putting on.

CONTRA FUCKING DICTION

Chris wouldnt you have wanted scum to think you were as low-power as possible so that they wouldnt be so tempted to kill you? Why didnt you claim 1-shot prosty day 2, or even hide that you couldnt act tonight? You didnt need to hide that from scum. You were hiding it from town

##Vote: Chris
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benjamin3740
10/21/18 10:27:01 PM
#289:


Badly worded sentence. I'm trying to say WHY did you want to hide that you couldnt act tonight?
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:29:23 PM
#290:


Because if they killed me and not the flavor cop it is + EV for town?
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benjamin3740
10/21/18 10:29:57 PM
#291:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Ben and Scare, clarify - you don't know for sure the other is Town?

We do know for sure. Well I guess the PM doesn't specify, but it should be a guarantee when you're Masons and not Neighbors


That's what I thought about people knowing I targeted them. I would ask!

I asked if Plum was Scum or town and got no response lol
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:30:16 PM
#292:


I am valuable to a town - um, duh - but at this juncture with some suspicion on me it just made sense to play powerful and hope neab being new to the community would save his ass.

Was worth a shot!
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ScareChan
10/21/18 10:32:45 PM
#293:


yeah we have asked about clarification

maybe someone could @ the host and see if he will clear things up more that way
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:33:12 PM
#294:


Like the tragedy so far is that I am just out thinking you when it comes to how I should be playing but since you are below my skill cap by a bit you aren't understanding that the things I do make sense. I have never been an ultimately selfish player. If this was a game where I had an ace amount of free time me being alive is paramount, but in a game where I have only limited free time more valuable roles living matter more than me because as last game proved I can be killed during the day as town if people get uppity enough.
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DoomTheGyarados
10/21/18 10:35:11 PM
#295:


Also I took plum flipping exactly what he said he was to mean he was town.
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benjamin3740
10/21/18 10:36:00 PM
#296:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Because if they killed me and not the flavor cop it is + EV for town?

So you came into the game valuing survival above all else but you played day 2 trying to eat a kill? And I'm supposed to believe you actually wanted to be a martyr for Neab? I dont believe that at all. Town Chris is way more powerful than flavor cop Neab, especially in your OWN head! Plus, now that you know there are no scanners left you're still playing it the same way, which is not giving information about it at all.

DoomTheGyarados posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I was not expecting this day to start tonight.

Chris, can you be a little more clear with your "no option to scan someone" claim?


On night 2, I was powerless. I am not confirming or denying if I am powerless further into the game or not.

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ScareChan
10/21/18 10:36:19 PM
#297:


Sheep - scanned inno by corrik
Chris - pirate blew up into him
Ben - mason bro for life
Red - liked his end of day 1 a lot, the way he went onto pirate felt real
Han - same as red, and him coming in with his flavor thing to syn up with sheep makes me feel ok
Sbell - claimed ash vanilla and has done ?? since
FD - claimed something else supernatural and also has been ?? to me
Miz - I didnt like the hammer too much, but I liked him trying to make content end of day, he's kind of in the middle

I think I want today to be more between Sbell and FD

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ScareChan
10/21/18 10:37:41 PM
#298:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Also I took plum flipping exactly what he said he was to mean he was town.


See my intial thought was he claimed the cult doctor thing and then switched to rolestopper because he knew he would flip that and it would confuse us more

but the flavor saying town was wrong has me messed up
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red13n
10/21/18 10:40:52 PM
#299:


ScareChan posted...
See my intial thought was he claimed the cult doctor thing and then switched to rolestopper because he knew he would flip that and it would confuse us more


rolestopper sounded like a scum role to me.
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Forceful_Dragon
10/21/18 10:41:49 PM
#300:


ScareChan posted...
but the flavor saying town was wrong has me messed up


I didn't even read the flavor until I saw you say this.

That does seem to make it pretty clear that the plum lunch was a mistake ergohe was the town equivalent.

Kinda sucky that we don't even find that out until after night is over, since that means scum has known all night and we couldn't be sure. But at least that mystery is solved.
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