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ZMythos 10/21/18 1:00:31 PM #51: |
knuxnole posted...
....ok? What about men with vaginas and women with penises? What about people without either? --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 10/21/18 1:01:33 PM #52: |
Antifar posted...
Here's the thing: much like other moves by the Trump administration, this is pretty unpopular among the public. Like, near the end of the 2016 primaries, Ted Cruz tried to play up the bathroom issue, and even GOP voters didn't care. NC voted out a Republican governor (while voting Trump!) largely because he was behind a dumbass bathroom bill. But was that necessarily because they hated the idea of the bill or was it more because it was drastically impacting the state economically? Cause like hell they didn't even fully repeal it iirc. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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known2FAIL 10/21/18 1:16:56 PM #53: |
Spam_n_eggs posted...
known2FAIL posted...That's what genders are though. It's determined by what you have at birth. It's always been like that. You don't put a question mark on the birth certificate to give time for the baby to decide what gender they want to be later. Gender is a scientific term. Yea that's crazy. Just because I believe your gender should be what your born with doesn't mean I believe people should be discriminated against for wanting to be a Trans. I just find all the different labels silly --- I don't know why I'm playing Destiny 2... but I am... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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alt_no_1_loves 10/21/18 1:21:21 PM #54: |
President of petty pandering with pointless policies!
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Spam_n_eggs 10/21/18 1:23:05 PM #55: |
BLAKUboy posted...
BJ-blazkowics posted...... not sure what your point is Oh is that the guy who scanned his sisters (low) paycheck and pretended it was his? Hahaha ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 10/21/18 1:23:26 PM #56: |
knuxnole posted...
....ok? Wrong. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spam_n_eggs 10/21/18 1:23:42 PM #57: |
known2FAIL posted...
Spam_n_eggs posted...known2FAIL posted...That's what genders are though. It's determined by what you have at birth. It's always been like that. You don't put a question mark on the birth certificate to give time for the baby to decide what gender they want to be later. Gender is a scientific term. Agreed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BruceWayneJr 10/21/18 1:26:09 PM #58: |
Well, it was just a matter of time. The banning of trans from the military fell through, so they're doing the next best thing and pretending they don't exist.
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CircleOfManias 10/21/18 1:26:12 PM #59: |
ZMythos posted...
And the brain chemistry of a transgender woman matches the brain chemistry of a biological woman. It's literally a birth defect where the body formed as the wrong sex. "Feelings" have nothing to do with it, it's a physical mismatch between the body and the brain. --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 10/21/18 1:26:25 PM #60: |
Seems to me that he's playing to his base. Transgenderism is too weird for them to think about rationally, so hearing someone else say "hey, that weird shit doesn't matter" is probably validating.
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tennisdude818 10/21/18 1:32:14 PM #61: |
The below is edgy in 2018:
--- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bat22 10/21/18 1:38:08 PM #62: |
LGB always made more sense to me. With LGBT, one of these is not like the others.
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ZMythos 10/21/18 1:38:37 PM #63: |
tennisdude818 posted...
The below is edgy in 2018: It's almost like there's been new studies and findings in science over the past 20 years and that we shouldn't rely on outdated children shows to explain what is now a complex topic in a simplified manner. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 10/21/18 1:44:20 PM #64: |
known2FAIL posted...
Just because I believe your gender should be what your born with doesn't mean I believe people should be discriminated against for wanting to be a Trans This is exactly what this action is looking to allow. Or at least remove from prohibition. Bat22 posted... LGB always made more sense to me. With LGBT, one of these is not like the others. It's a solidarity thing, mostly. That's not to say that there aren't homosexual people that are fine with turning on transgender people. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 10/21/18 1:48:18 PM #65: |
ZMythos posted...
tennisdude818 posted...The below is edgy in 2018: Depends on where you're coming from. If it's "the penis isn't a male organ, and there at 10,000 genders" then no. If it's "a person can have the brain of a female and the body of a male" then ok, but it becomes impossible to call somebody like James Damore a evil bigot while simultaneously acknowledging that the male and female brains are different. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EliteLevel 10/21/18 1:48:25 PM #66: |
OctilIery posted...
knuxnole posted.......ok? Enlighten us. --- Judge not, lest ye be judged and get butthurt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 10/21/18 1:52:15 PM #67: |
tennisdude818 posted...
Depends on where you're coming from. If it's "the penis isn't a male organ, and there at 10,000 genders" then no. If it's "a person can have the brain of a female and the body of a male" then ok, but it becomes impossible to call somebody like James Damore a evil bigot while simultaneously acknowledging that the male and female brains are different. You should really try to step outside your partisan bubble. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 10/21/18 1:53:27 PM #68: |
this is step 1
step 2 is making existing passports of transgender people invalid step 3 is not letting them get new ones --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 10/21/18 1:54:29 PM #69: |
We never really leave the argument of "but do transgender people REALLY exist?" do we?
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Spam_n_eggs 10/21/18 1:55:21 PM #70: |
Darkman124 posted...
this is step 1 Pretty much what they are doing to Hispanics not born in specific hospitals huh? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irregardless 10/21/18 1:55:27 PM #71: |
Darkman124 posted...
this is step 1 Or instead we take your passport and then kick you into a volcano ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spam_n_eggs 10/21/18 1:59:07 PM #72: |
Darkman124 posted...
this is step 1 And on second thought, this is terrifying. Say somebody chopped the pecker. Then he/she/xir tries to renew passport and they deny it because the passport says male but this person looks like a girl but has no pecker This is almost certain to happen. And their argument will be amazingly stupid: we are not denying you a passport. Prove you have s penis and you will get your passport that says youre male ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 10/21/18 1:59:50 PM #73: |
Vicious_Dios posted...
I have no problem with this. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 10/21/18 2:33:46 PM #75: |
I want this fucker to get his ass beat badly.
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CyricZ 10/21/18 2:39:46 PM #76: |
TheRealDill2000 posted...
3) There are plenty of obvious benefits for this change. I know you're a gimmick, but damn it if I'm not curious as to how you'd plan to elaborate on this. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xavius 10/21/18 2:43:41 PM #77: |
You are born a male or female. We should never encourage people like this.
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Bat22 10/21/18 2:48:28 PM #78: |
CyricZ posted...
Bat22 posted...LGB always made more sense to me. With LGBT, one of these is not like the others. Some might say it's turning on a part of their community. Some might say it's cutting a hanger-on or liability loose. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 10/21/18 2:51:09 PM #79: |
I stay out of this issue because I don't understand it.
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COVxy 10/21/18 2:55:53 PM #80: |
Bat22 posted...
Some might say it's turning on a part of their community. Some might say it's cutting a hanger-on or liability loose. Why the vitriol? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 10/21/18 2:56:59 PM #81: |
Bat22 posted...
CyricZ posted...Bat22 posted...LGB always made more sense to me. With LGBT, one of these is not like the others. What about transgender people could be seen as a liability? --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 10/21/18 2:59:18 PM #82: |
Gender dysphoria should be treated with compassion but I do think this kinda stuff should be reigned back in to a reasonable degree to reflect a factual basis rather than pseudoscience.
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ZMythos 10/21/18 3:03:02 PM #83: |
Funbazooka posted...
Gender dysphoria should be treated with compassion but I do think this kinda stuff should be reigned back in to a reasonable degree to reflect a factual basis rather than pseudoscience. It's already based in evidence and science. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bat22 10/21/18 3:03:15 PM #84: |
COVxy posted...
Bat22 posted...Some might say it's turning on a part of their community. Some might say it's cutting a hanger-on or liability loose. No particular vitriol. I just don't buy what the transgender movement is selling, at least as the popular media presents it. And when you mix sexual orientation with gender dysphoria, LGB reception and support is going to be more mixed and uncertain from the "cis" community. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 10/21/18 3:03:27 PM #85: |
Funbazooka posted...
Gender dysphoria should be treated with compassion but I do think this kinda stuff should be reigned back in to a reasonable degree to reflect a factual basis rather than pseudoscience. Well, I'd be glad to hear what you believe is reasonable about discriminating against transgender people. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 10/21/18 3:04:05 PM #86: |
Sayoria posted...
... --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 10/21/18 3:04:08 PM #87: |
Bat22 posted...
I just don't buy what the transgender movement is selling What... identity? Happiness? Self-comfort? --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 10/21/18 3:07:24 PM #88: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Sayoria posted...... I didn't say kill. I said beat. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 10/21/18 3:07:33 PM #89: |
Bat22 posted...
No particular vitriol. I just don't buy what the transgender movement is selling, at least as the popular media presents it. What is it that you think they are selling that you don't buy? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Squall28 10/21/18 3:07:38 PM #90: |
known2FAIL posted...
That's what genders are though. It's determined by what you have at birth. It's always been like that. You don't put a question mark on the birth certificate to give time for the baby to decide what gender they want to be later. Gender is a scientific term. What you're thinking about is biological sex. The word gender pretty much lost all meaning. --- If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bat22 10/21/18 3:08:27 PM #91: |
CyricZ posted...
Bat22 posted...CyricZ posted...Bat22 posted...LGB always made more sense to me. With LGBT, one of these is not like the others. Just that the transgender movement - with the aid of spineless liberals - has tried to get more people aboard the crazy train. Non-male or female bathrooms; men beating women in female sports and awards; coerced usage of pronouns and delusional belief systems... this kind of crap wasn't seen with LGB issues, which have likely suffered from their association with the T group. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 10/21/18 3:09:31 PM #92: |
Sayoria posted...
I didn't say kill. I said beat. Pretty sure that's still illegal. But not illegal to say there's an unspecified group that meets under the Brooklyn Bridge to discuss off topic things. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJCAT 10/21/18 3:09:44 PM #93: |
Sayoria posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...Sayoria posted...... is it illegal to say i would be ok with it if somebody killed him --- PSN: SUPER_KITTY_JAM FC: SW-2262-4005-7054 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRealDill1999 10/21/18 3:11:31 PM #94: |
CyricZ posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...3) There are plenty of obvious benefits for this change. Doesn't look like I will have the opportunity... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 10/21/18 3:15:12 PM #95: |
Bat22 posted...
Non-male or female bathrooms There are still male and female bathrooms. What's your specific issue? men beating women in female sports and awards No one becomes transgender to win medals. coerced usage of pronouns No one's forcing anyone to use any particular pronoun. If someone says "please refer to me by this pronoun", it's not coercion, it's asking you to be nice. delusional belief systems Yeah, I'll just have to ask you to elaborate on this. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 10/21/18 3:15:33 PM #96: |
TheRealDill1999 posted...
CyricZ posted...TheRealDill2000 posted...3) There are plenty of obvious benefits for this change. I weep. Truly I do. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bat22 10/21/18 3:21:32 PM #97: |
COVxy posted...
Bat22 posted...No particular vitriol. I just don't buy what the transgender movement is selling, at least as the popular media presents it. The idea of gender and sex being separate topics. Ignoring the popularity of using those words synonymously, I hear so much about "gender" being metaphysical and yet transgenders appear to fixate on the physical, from appearing like conventional ladies in appearance to ongoing hormonal treatment for secondary sex characteristics to imitative physical surgery. "True" transgenderism may in fact lie with the effeminate male or masculine female, and the androgynous or asexual individuals in the middle of the spectrum. Not this ideology of strong feelings over what's between one's legs. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 10/21/18 3:23:41 PM #98: |
Bat22 posted...
I hear so much about "gender" being metaphysical Naw, you really don't. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mist_Turnips 10/21/18 3:24:56 PM #99: |
Nice
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Bat22 10/21/18 3:26:51 PM #100: |
CyricZ posted...
Bat22 posted...Non-male or female bathrooms I'm getting tired of carrying this discussion/argument/whatever so I'll leave it with this. The LGB movement is for equal rights. The T movement is for accommodations which come off more as pampering. A special bathroom for themselves, else be wary the lawsuits. Allowance to compete against the opposite sex which promotes unfairness, whether it's a trans female trouncing natural females or a trans male trouncing natural females w/ the testosterone boost. See Canada and liberal campuses. See my previous post. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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APM 10/21/18 3:27:27 PM #101: |
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