Board 8 > Nationalist politics topic 11: NPC meme is the gift that keeps on giving

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Vlado posted...

Meanwhile, Taiwan gloriously reject gay "marriage" in referendum.

Even more importantly, the proposal for gender "education" has been rejected, too.

http://focustaiwan.tw/news/AIPL/201811250002.aspx

Feh, I thought further East (The Orient) were more tolerant about those matters.
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you guys hear about the attempted caravan crossing at Tijuana?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGsDzxd2-LY" data-time="&start=1
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Hardcore_Adult posted...

Feh, I thought further East (The Orient) were more tolerant about those matters.

It's not about "tolerance," it's about whether you want your society and way of life destroyed in the name of central banking and international corporations.
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Imagine thinking gay marriage = central banking and corporations destroying your way of life

What the fuck who educated this poor man*

*man used very loosely here

Let me try to spell it out for you:

What do the heads of central banks and international corporations want? Total control.
What makes it easier to achieve total control? National populations losing their moral values, national societies decaying.
What (among many other measures) destroys moral values and causes society to decay? ...
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Vlado posted...

What (among many other measures) destroys moral values and causes society to decay? ...

Nationalism
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lel, imagine actually believing that central banks and international corporations are pushing nationalism, and not globalism. You're reaching Inviso-tier of rejection of reality where the complete inverse of what you claim you believe is what's actually happening.
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That's not what I said
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Vlado posted...

What makes it easier to achieve total control?

Uniformity? Scaled back governments, if you're a bank/business?
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Vlado posted...

lel, imagine actually believing that central banks and international corporations are pushing nationalism, and not globalism. You're reaching Inviso-tier of rejection of reality where the complete inverse of what you claim you believe is what's actually happening.

Is there ever going to be a FINAL chapter with you two you to close the door on a decade plus of... whatever it is?

And would you be willing to play it out at the 02 Arena in 12 rounds or less?
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Indeed. Uniformity, as in giving power to international bureaucracy (UN, EU) over national governments, so that all countries operate under a single set of rules (tailored to the corporations' needs, of course). Ideally, also dumbing down the populations, so that they don't wise up to take their power back.

Which is where the "equality" (i.e. reducing everyone to the lowest common denominator) and "multiculturalism" propaganda comes into play.
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Vlado posted...

What makes it easier to achieve total control?

Historically, having a minority group to turn into a scapegoat (LGBT people, refugees, etc).
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You have no grasp of history. Historically, total control has never been achieved on a global scale, nor will it be.
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Tell that to Shinra
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Vlado posted...

You have no grasp of history. Historically, total control has never been achieved on a global scale, nor will it be.

yet you're still worried about it

maybe worry about intranational authoritarianism (also impossible but much closer to possible) rather than global authoritarianism (which we both admit is not achievable)?

edit: also I meant totalitarianism but you get the idea
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Vlado loves nationalistic totalitarianism though

Im not even joking. He admits it.
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^ But wouldn't YOU get off on "Supreme Dictator Jakyl" marching around calling the shots, grinding up your enemies for Wolf food, instilling the harshest punishments on offenders, etc?
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Vlado better be worried about that!
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Kenri posted...

yet you're still worried about it

Worried? No. Globalism is done. But I'm fighting to limit the damage from the attempts to establish globalism, damage that is so ENORMOUS, in some countries it seems already impossible to undo without bloodshed. Fortunately, the problem can still be solved peacefully in most countries.

Kenri posted...

intranational authoritarianism

For example?

Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado loves nationalistic totalitarianism though

Im not even joking. He admits it.

Depends on what you mean by "totalitarianism."
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Vlado posted...

For example?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_totalitarian_regimes

Note that since true totalitarianism is impossible, each and every example is necessarily debatable.
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I was asking about "nationalistic totalitarianism."

Meanwhile, "moderate" jihadists attack civilians with chemical weapons in Syria, resulting in radio silence from globalist media as opposed to the screeching when they staged such an attack to implicate the Syrian government.

https://www.rt.com/news/444916-syria-aleppo-chlorine-attack-west/
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Vlado posted...

I was asking about "nationalistic totalitarianism."

No, you asked about intranational (i.e. within one country) totalitarianism (as opposed to your global totalitarian bogeyman), though almost every example on the list is nationalist too so really I'm guessing you just didn't even bother looking.
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Vlado posted...

He didn't get anything significant, sadly. Trump still hasn't done anything particularly significant. Yes, some relatively nice things were done, but he promised much more.

Trump getting elected was the most important thing, but also it's not anything significant? You're lying about one of those.

You are so willing to throw away anything you say/believe to try to win an argument. It's a technique that works for Trump and other statists to convince the public to follow their authority, but you are just a regular dude trying to win an argument. It makes no sense for you to throw away all your principles just to defend your leader.

Vlado posted...

Doubt is healthy, no doubt. :) But if you succumb to doubt too much, you'll never get anything done.

What doubts do you have about any of your beliefs? Nationalism, christianity, homosexuality, abortion, immigration - list 1 doubt you have for each.

You in fact have NO doubts about ANYTHING you believe. 100% of your beliefs are based on the idea that it would be OBVIOUSLY RIDICULOUS to disagree with you (i.e. "imagine believing _______"). Anything less than complete confidence in what you're saying is a weakness, an obstacle that needs to be ERADICATED.

I know you genuinely WANT to believe it when you say "some doubt is healthy :^)", but you can't. Doubt has hurt you too much in the past for you to give it a chance again. The redpill is irreversible.... isn't it?

And so you will continue to be soft putty in the hands of those who, with absolute certain confidence, reject reality and preach their own. Until the next, more confident guy comes along.
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Globalist media is too focused on the US and Russia defending their borders from Mexican and Ukrainian invaders right now
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Vlado posted...

Hardcore_Adult posted...

Why does this line sound like something out of a mid-budget film that tanks at the pictures but mops its losses back up on Home media?

Because foolmo has interacted so much with me, he starts to adopt my way of expression. Stare into the abyss for too long, and it stares back into you. :)

I know very well how sensitive anti-sjws to discussion. I've been blocked by many a snowflake-hating defender of free speech for not following the book. This is a rare time when I actually want to talk with vlado and not have him shut down, so it's incredibly easy to just copy the recipe here.
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Kenri posted...

Vlado posted...

I was asking about "nationalistic totalitarianism."

No, you asked about intranational (i.e. within one country) totalitarianism (as opposed to your global totalitarian bogeyman), though almost every example on the list is nationalist too so really I'm guessing you just didn't even bother looking.

Oh oops. Got your question confused with Jakyl's, sorry. There's absolutely no problem with authoritarianism within a nation. If it's good for the people, excellent. If it's bad for the people, it's on them to topple it (via elections or force). Foreign interventionism under the pretext of "toppling the evil dictator" is ALWAYS worse for the country in question.

foolm0r0n posted...

Trump getting elected was the most important thing, but also it's not anything significant? You're lying about one of those.

You are so willing to throw away anything you say/believe to try to win an argument. It's a technique that works for Trump and other statists to convince the public to follow their authority, but you are just a regular dude trying to win an argument. It makes no sense for you to throw away all your principles just to defend your leader.

You're pretending you didn't understand what I was talking about. What part of "Trump getting elected is the most important" didn't you understand? It's the public sentiment having changed to the point of embracing Trump's platform, i.e. nationalism that matters far more than Trump's deeds while president. It doesn't look like Trump is going to get anything particularly important done with whatever power is granted to him in his position. It could be that he lied to the public get there, it could be that the deep state is not allowing him to do much.

That doesn't matter. What matters is that the US voted for nationalism. It is what the people want. Despite 24/7 globalist propaganda on all major media, including even escapism media like film and even games. It signifies a cultural shift WHILE ALSO powerfully enabling further cultural shift.

foolm0r0n posted...

What doubts do you have about any of your beliefs? Nationalism, christianity, homosexuality, abortion, immigration - list 1 doubt you have for each.

What doubt is there to be had about obvious, natural truths?

You do not doubt that the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening. You doubt, for example, people and their real intentions. I listed a clear example of doubt above - Trump. Someone I clearly like, but I still consider it possible he lied to me and millions of others to get us to like him. That is doubt.

The red pill is nothing but the inevitable result of accumulation of political knowledge.
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Vlado posted...

What part of "Trump getting elected is the most important" didn't you understand?

Nothing. What part of the contradiction expressed here don't you understand:
Vlado posted...

What matters is that the US voted for nationalism

Vlado posted...

He didn't get anything significant, sadly.

You try to reject Bannon's success even though you praise his work in turning the US nationalist. And even today, you're a pawn for his current 3 goals:
1. Let Bannon hide out of the spotlight, absolve him of guilt
2. Broaden the appeal of nationalism in the media (using Breitbart etc)
3. Decouple nationalism from Trump, so someone else can replace him easily

Vlado posted...

What doubt is there to be had about obvious, natural truths?

You were the one telling me that some doubt is healthy. But fine, you have no doubts about what you believe, like I originally said. Next time don't disagree with me if you're just gonna agree again immediately. It's a waste of time.

Vlado posted...

You do not doubt that the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening

Alaska

Now what? You gave an example of an obvious, natural truth, that isn't actually true. There's an undeniable counter example. What do you do now? I am genuinely curious.

Do you revise your obvious truth? Do you reject the reality of the counter example? Either option requires you to admit you were wrong, in your path to truth (which is TOTALLY NORMAL AND OKAY btw, everyone does it). Are you able to do that?

Do you, in the future, consider that an absolutist statement like that might POSSIBLY have a counter example?
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Vlado posted...

That doesn't matter. What matters is that the US voted for nationalism. It is what the people want. Despite 24/7 globalist propaganda on all major media, including even escapism media like film and even games. It signifies a cultural shift WHILE ALSO powerfully enabling further cultural shift.

How do you reconcile that with the huge midterm shifts away from Trumpism?
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You do not doubt that the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening.

In fairness, the Sun's done a legger for the best part of a month over here, so....
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Mainstream media still doesn't get trump's appeal after 2 years(3 actually). He wins, that's why people like him
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Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado posted...

That doesn't matter. What matters is that the US voted for nationalism. It is what the people want. Despite 24/7 globalist propaganda on all major media, including even escapism media like film and even games. It signifies a cultural shift WHILE ALSO powerfully enabling further cultural shift.

How do you reconcile that with the huge midterm shifts away from Trumpism?

Midterm results were positive for Trump. They were basically a stalemate.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Vlado posted...

What part of "Trump getting elected is the most important" didn't you understand?

Nothing. What part of the contradiction expressed here don't you understand:
Vlado posted...

What matters is that the US voted for nationalism

Vlado posted...

He didn't get anything significant, sadly.

Where is the contradiction? As president, so far he has failed to make significant changes to US policy. But his victory in itself has signified and enabled cultural change. He was merely a catalyst for processes way beyond his (or even your apparent archnemesis Bannon's) control, and he is merely a stepping stone toward what's to come.

foolm0r0n posted...

You try to reject Bannon's success even though you praise his work in turning the US nationalist. And even today, you're a pawn for his current 3 goals:
1. Let Bannon hide out of the spotlight, absolve him of guilt
2. Broaden the appeal of nationalism in the media (using Breitbart etc)
3. Decouple nationalism from Trump, so someone else can replace him easily

It's hilarious that you try to pin everything that terrifies you today on Bannon. These processes are WAY beyond any individual's power. Bannon is helping channel creative energy in fruitful directions, that's the most he can be credited with.

Also, "guilt"? Seriously? If saving your country from the filthy paws of globalism is "guilt," we must have inverted the meanings of "right" and "wrong" completely. And that's the first goal? Are you expecting Bannon to try to become God-Emperor of Mankind or something?

For once, try to think of the real world, not some harry potter make-believe nonsense where the universe cannot exist without an individual evil villain to hold it together.

Nationalism was never Trump's. He's merely been nationalism's vessel in the US. Better nationalist leaders with stronger convictions had already appeared (and are still appearing) in numerous other countries years before Trump announced he'd run. Of course, his election has helped nationalism rise further around the world. And that's also important. Even if the US go down, the world is already safely beyond globalism's reach, barring a world war. In short, for sure he's a key player whose rhetoric has impact, but not the top star - and, at the end, nationalism is not about any individual, it's about the truth.

foolm0r0n posted...

no doubts about what you believe

Wrong. I have no doubts about obvious truths like the things you listed. I have doubts about politicians I believe in.

You need to accept that some things are simply true, and not all media propaganda in the world claiming they are false can change that. There are truths which are natural, and outside of human control. No matter how much some people try to twist reality, reality is not something which humans can change - at most they can sucker other people into denying it.

foolm0r0n posted...

Alaska

lol

Cherry-picking does not change a natural truth. Oh wow, a sheep was born with 2 heads due to an anomaly, therefore we need to change zoology textbooks to say that sheep have usually one or sometimes 2 heads? No.
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SuperNiceDog posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado posted...

That doesn't matter. What matters is that the US voted for nationalism. It is what the people want. Despite 24/7 globalist propaganda on all major media, including even escapism media like film and even games. It signifies a cultural shift WHILE ALSO powerfully enabling further cultural shift.

How do you reconcile that with the huge midterm shifts away from Trumpism?

Midterm results were positive for Trump. They were basically a stalemate.

I would say they were negative, but not nearly as bad as originally predicted, so it's expected he's trying to spin them as a win. The only HUGE loss Trump suffered was the idiotic decision to give felons the right to vote in Florida, which automatically made it a blue state for the foreseeable future. And Trump didn't exactly try to prevent this disastrous result, meaning he's either criminally ignorant of something so important, or complicit in America's destruction.
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Vlado posted...

Where is the contradiction? As president, so far he has failed to make significant changes to US policy.

When you said "He" in that quote you were talking about Bannon. You were trying to separate him from his accomplishments.

But he got Trump elected. You are saying that is very significant, and also that it's totally insignificant. That's the contradiction. Which is it?

Vlado posted...

Are you expecting Bannon to try to become God-Emperor of Mankind or something?

Yes, that's absolutely what he wants. Obviously he's just another angry old dude trying to leave a shitstain mark on this world, but that's how he operates. But YOU are the one following his plan. I am explicitly rejecting it.

Vlado posted...

Nationalism was never Trump's

No shit. Nazis, the British Empire, Japanese Empire, even the Romans and further back, all had nationalism.

But like you said, he was the medium for it. Bannon used gamers (yes, they attacked GAMERS!!) to get young nerds into nationalism, that doesn't mean gamers invented nationalism (as much as GGers wish it were true). And then he used the same techniques to get statists (Republicans, Democrats, socialists, etc) into nationalism through Trump. Then he threw away Trump and is now broadening that Trump appeal to a more global nationalism, through Breitbart.

You're agreeing with everything I'm saying. You just don't want to admit you were a part of his plan during GG and the election.
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Vlado posted...

Wrong. I have no doubts about obvious truths like the things you listed.

So, right. Again, agreeing with me immediately after disagreeing. I don't get it.

Most of the things I listed are human inventions anyways, so why not list the doubts you have there? God didn't invent immigration.

Vlado posted...

Cherry-picking does not change a natural truth.

But God DID invent Alaska (and Sweden, Finland, Russia, Canada, Greenland, Antarctica which have the same effect). And He made it so that the sun doesn't rise or set for 3 months at a time, consistently for the past 6000 years of its existence. So if you don't believe in God's own creation, which has been around since the start of time, then what do you think is a "natural truth"?

Looks like rejecting reality is your option in this case. Sad.

I KNOW you understand what an exception is. If I told you an obvious truth - "all prime numbers are odd", you would call me an absolute idiot and point out that 2 is even and it's prime. That's 1 out of infinity prime numbers, and yet you still understand that the exception invalidates my truth.

But your statement is wrong for about 10% of the area on Earth, and you have no problem ignoring it just to avoid admitting you were a TINY BIT wrong. It would be like leaving Bulgaria off the map because it only contains 0.1% of the world's population. Acknowledging your existence would be cherry picking.

And yes, books should say that SOME sheep have 2 heads, just like SOME humans are Bulgarian (two head sheep are more likely, actually). Obviously not "usually" because that means over 50%.
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foolm0r0n posted...

And yes, books should say that SOME sheep have 2 heads

lol, you either don't understand what "practical" or "rational" means, or you try to fight against it out of fear you might be left out. Either way, you're not going to win such a battle against the world.

foolm0r0n posted...

When you said "He" in that quote you were talking about Bannon.

No, I was talking about Trump. Bannon is not president.

foolm0r0n posted...

But he got Trump elected.

Bannon helped a lot, but it would be a lie to give him all, or even most of the credit.

foolm0r0n posted...

Yes, that's absolutely what he wants. Obviously he's just another angry old dude trying to leave a shitstain mark on this world, but that's how he operates. But YOU are the one following his plan. I am explicitly rejecting it.

lol

foolm0r0n posted...

No shit. Nazis, the British Empire, Japanese Empire, even the Romans and further back, all had nationalism.

But like you said, he was the medium for it. Bannon used gamers (yes, they attacked GAMERS!!) to get young nerds into nationalism, that doesn't mean gamers invented nationalism (as much as GGers wish it were true). And then he used the same techniques to get statists (Republicans, Democrats, socialists, etc) into nationalism through Trump. Then he threw away Trump and is now broadening that Trump appeal to a more global nationalism, through Breitbart.

You're agreeing with everything I'm saying. You just don't want to admit you were a part of his plan during GG and the election.

Yeah, those democrats and (other) socialists are totally onboard the nationalist train... Look at how they support Trump and other nationalists around the world. They don't.

I don't care about being "part of a plan" or not. If you're trying to hurt my ego or something by saying I was "used" by Bannon, understand that I don't care about that. I care about results. The rise of nationalism is a good result, and an important step towards the betterment of mankind.

foolm0r0n posted...

So, right. Again, agreeing with me immediately after disagreeing. I don't get it.

Most of the things I listed are human inventions anyways, so why not list the doubts you have there? God didn't invent immigration.

Because I have no doubts. It is clear as day: only people who have covered extensive criteria that they are willing and able to integrate into the country and contribute to it in a meaningful way should be let in. Anything less is putting the country in danger and worsening the lives of its people. Japan is a shining example there.

foolm0r0n posted...

I KNOW you understand what an exception is. If I told you an obvious truth - "all prime numbers are odd", you would call me an absolute idiot and point out that 2 is even and it's prime. That's 1 out of infinity prime numbers, and yet you still understand that the exception invalidates my truth.

Analogies aside, your "exceptions" do not invalidate anything. We are not here to argue semantics and corner cases.

If Bulgaria's welfare was ignored by those making things happen around the world (which, let's face it, it is), it's on us to fight for our place under the sun.

Get this - roughly speaking, I follow the 80/20 rule. Because it is impossible for everyone in a country to be happy with its ruler. Therefore, it is counter-productive at worst and a waste of time and effort at best to try to please everyone.

But as long as the ruler enacts policies which help 80% of the nation thrive, even if they inconvenience the other 20%, that is a GOOD ruler, and that is a model well worth following.
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Vlado posted...

If Bulgaria's welfare was ignored by those making things happen around the world (which, let's face it, it is), it's on us to fight for our place under the sun.

Right, so what do you say to those who treat Bulgaria's existence as "semantics" and a "corner case"? They say it's simply practical and rational to remove it from the map. How do you respond? That's all I'm wondering.

Vlado posted...

Because I have no doubts. It is clear as day

So never every dare say some bullshit like "doubt is healthy" again. Stick to what they told you. Never question yourself. Never visit Alaska in the winter.

And don't ever disagree with me when you 100% confirm what I am saying.

Vlado posted...

But as long as the ruler enacts policies which help 80% of the nation thrive, even if they inconvenience the other 20%, that is a GOOD ruler, and that is a model well worth following.

Don't think you've ever typed something like this out before! Others should take this and run with it in the next topic.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Right, so what do you say to those who treat Bulgaria's existence as "semantics" and a "corner case"? They say it's simply practical and rational to remove it from the map. How do you respond? That's all I'm wondering.

I already did. "It's on us to fight for our place under the sun."

foolm0r0n posted...

So never every dare say some bullshit like "doubt is healthy" again.

Why? While it's self-destructive to doubt natural, self-evident truths, all other doubt is healthy. Like I have underlined many times over, it is important not to trust any politician completely, just like I am doing with Trump. It is humans and human creations that you are to doubt, not nature.

You see, the truths you listed do not change over time. There's no danger that they may have lied to you. They simply exist. 2 + 2 = 4. It's ridiculous to doubt them. That's self-destructive relativism which dooms you to never achieving anything. You've basically already surrendered that your life will have no meaning whatsoever. You fight for chaos. I fight for order.

foolm0r0n posted...

Don't think you've ever typed something like this out before! Others should take this and run with it in the next topic.

I have.
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Vlado posted...

No, I was talking about Trump

Come onnn I know your memory doesn't last long but it was only a few days ago:
Vlado posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

If he was, you would be the puppet. So of course you have to dismiss him, even though he got everything he wanted and still does. He's no genius or anything. He just has a lotttt of puppets.

He didn't get anything significant, sadly. Trump still hasn't done anything particularly significant. Yes, some relatively nice things were done, but he promised much more.

It started from "Bannon is not a puppetmaster"

Anyways, I don't think you care about being a puppet or your ego or anything. I know you're totally fine following people if you get what you want. It just seemed like you really didn't want to be part of Bannon's plan, based on the way you were contradicting the value of his accomplishments. But we've settled on that now so it's fine.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Vlado posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

If he was, you would be the puppet. So of course you have to dismiss him, even though he got everything he wanted and still does. He's no genius or anything. He just has a lotttt of puppets.

He didn't get anything significant, sadly. Trump still hasn't done anything particularly significant. Yes, some relatively nice things were done, but he promised much more.

It started from "Bannon is not a puppetmaster"

Anyways, I don't think you care about being a puppet or your ego or anything. I know you're totally fine following people if you get what you want. It just seemed like you really didn't want to be part of Bannon's plan, based on the way you were contradicting the value of his accomplishments. But we've settled on that now so it's fine.

Oh, so that was the issue? Bannon didn't get anything significant because it wasn't him that caused the cultural change in the first place. He merely helped channel the energy of people who had already got tired of being lied to. Yes, Trump winning was significant, but it wasn't Bannon's doing like you are trying to claim. "Everything he wanted"? Bannon likely wanted Trump to actually take actions beneficial to nationalism. Which he isn't. So no, Bannon didn't get "everything he wanted," or close to it...

You see, what's happening in the US is not even the main vector of shift towards nationalism. That would be mainly Russia, to a lesser extent China, Japan, The Philippines, Hungary, V4 as a whole, Central/Eastern Europe as a whole. What was Bannon's role in Putin's March 1st announcement, which made the changes irreversible, barring a world war? None. Rid of your illusions and you may start to see the truth.
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Vlado posted...

I already did. "It's on us to fight for our place under the sun."

Alright so you understand when the Alaskans fight you, they are fighting for the truth against your lies. It's God's nature vs your rhetoric.

Vlado posted...

You see, the truths you listed do not change over time

Half the things I listed are human inventions. Immigration, Christianity, abortion. You still don't doubt them at all, because some dude speaks well or draws a nice comic.

You also listed things that GOD LITERALLY CREATED by his own hand and which you can see yourself in reality, which you DO doubt (Alaska, two headed sheep).

It is not relativism to look at the creation of God and scoff. To dismiss nature as a corner case. It is relativism to look at the flawed creations of man (immigration, nationalism, etc) and believe them to have a higher authority than nature simply because you agree with them.
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Again, none of the things you listed change over time. Life did not suddenly stop beginning at conception because some idiots made it legal to kill babies in the womb. The Bible does not change. Immigration being harmful unless the requirements I mentioned are fulfilled does not change.

So there is no reason to doubt them.
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Why does life begin at conception? You claim that the Bible is infallible, yet the Bible makes it clear that an unborn fetus is not a human life. Furthermore, the Bible states that all of humankind originated from a common ancestor, a truth that scientific analysis concurs with, yet youve stated multiple times that this truth is wrong. It seems like you, like most non-Christians falsely claiming piety to maintain your smug arrogance, are just picking and choosing what truths are infallible, to correspond to your unquestioning beliefs.
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All those things clearly change (ESPECIALLY the Bible, religion, nationalism) and you know they do. So I guess all this falls into the same category as your denial of the sun in Alaska.

If you agree with something - pretend God created it since the beginning of time. If you disagree - it's just just a temporary exception.

I guess this is how easily Trump was made your God Emperor (and how quickly you dropped him). And how easily you cheer the deaths of millions of corner cases (except when you're the 20% of course).

That's all I wanted to show
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As the topic ends, know that both Vlado and I agree with this wholeheartedly:

Nationalism is just as true for this world, as the sun rises in the morning in Alaska
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Vlado posted...

There's absolutely no problem with authoritarianism within a nation. If it's good for the people, excellent. If it's bad for the people, it's on them to topple it (via elections or force).

First off, authoritarianism (much less totalitarianism) by definition cannot be good for "the people", only for the rulers (sometimes even a singular ruler). So there's no "if" there.

Second, wow, you flip-flopped fast from "total control is bad!!" to "there's absolutely no problem with it actually"
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Vlado posted...

The Bible does not change.

LOL
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Vlado posted...

There's absolutely no problem with authoritarianism within a nation

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https://youtu.be/Bk1gMAivD0U?list=WL&t=1206

Referring to no one in particular
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Kill all Alaskans
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