Board 8 > Nationalist politics topic 11: NPC meme is the gift that keeps on giving

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Vlado
11/06/18 12:55:16 PM
#151:


Into thinking what?
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Jakyl25
11/06/18 12:55:52 PM
#152:


Vlado posted...

Why? That's not a particularly bright position. These big tech companies are far more powerful than most governments.


What about all the European memelords sent to the gulags by governments, not corporations?
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Jakyl25
11/06/18 12:57:33 PM
#153:


Vlado posted...
Into thinking what?


Into all of my positions really

In this instance, my position that censoring the existence of a gay person in a cartoon is a bigger deal than tech corps censoring what I consider to be hateful rhetoric
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Espeon
11/06/18 12:57:57 PM
#154:


Vlado posted...
lmfao, imagine pretending some cartoon is equal to political censorship.


Well, given the REASON it was censored, it WAS political censorship.

Furthermore, this victim complex you have is pathetic. Google wont highlight conservative viewpoints, therefore were being censored. It couldnt POSSIBLY be that conservative viewpoints are more likely to be factually inaccurate (for example, again, the whiny claim that Google censored Trumps SotU, that you put ZERO effort into fact-checking, and eventually had to admit was false). Nope, the world is just out to get you, just like how theres a war on Christmas despite it being the biggest fucking holiday in this country. Take some fucking responsibility for how you stubbornly refuse to adapt to a changing world, rather than blaming everyone else for the whiny loser youve become.
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GuessMyUserName
11/06/18 12:59:15 PM
#155:


Espeon posted...
You know what? Fuck off with that censorship bullshit. You gave up that moral high ground when you defended Putin censoring Steven Universe.

Vlado posted...
lmfao, imagine pretending some cartoon is equal to political censorship.


ahahahahahah I did not know about this

I hate a lot of creative content censorship and it's been awkward sometimes having Vlado in my corner turning everything to shit, but it's good to see it confirmed Vlado actually doesn't give a rat's ass about it
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Kenri
11/06/18 1:00:30 PM
#156:


Vlado posted...
Let's see the evidence.

https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-hate-speech-censorship-internal-documents-algorithms

For instance.

Or just Google "social media lgbt censorship" and see everything that comes up.
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foolm0r0n
11/06/18 1:13:42 PM
#157:


Vlado posted...
When he's promised fucking up the world domination plans of the rest of the 1%

Powerful people promise things to weak people all the time to gain control. Stop helping them out so much and then wondering why everything is getting worse for you. They NEVER follow their promises, why would they.
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Vlado
11/06/18 1:24:07 PM
#158:


Jakyl25 posted...
What about all the European memelords sent to the gulags by governments, not corporations?

What about them? I'm not saying it's a good thing when it's the government that is censoring people for political views. Just because google, etc. can't put you in jail (directly, at least, but you know damn well they're pushing for "hate-speech laws" and such, so they're doing it indirectly) does not mean their censorship isn't terrible.

GuessMyUserName posted...
ahahahahahah I did not know about this

I hate a lot of creative content censorship and it's been awkward sometimes having Vlado in my corner turning everything to shit, but it's good to see it confirmed Vlado actually doesn't give a rat's ass about it

That's not comparable. The cartoon had some scenes not suitable for children removed - in Russia. The Russian government did not remove them elsewhere. It's not like the cartoon was entirely changed like SJW censorship is doing to games, etc.

Kenri posted...
Vlado posted...
Let's see the evidence.

https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-hate-speech-censorship-internal-documents-algorithms

For instance.

Or just Google "social media lgbt censorship" and see everything that comes up.

So your point is basically that because random left-wingers get hit sometimes (these companies need to save face somehow, it can't be 100% right-wingers getting censored, otherwise it'll be too obvious), that makes up for the countless thousands of right-wingers getting censored, including tens of very prominent voices with thousands (in Alex Jones' case, millions) of followers?
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foolm0r0n
11/06/18 1:24:28 PM
#159:


Promote globalist leaders as long as they promise nationalism
Promote censors as long as they promise they will only touch homosexuality
Promote murderers as long as they promise it will only be drug users

Beg your family to forgive you as they are taken away/shot by them
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Vlado
11/06/18 1:26:30 PM
#160:


foolm0r0n posted...
Vlado posted...
When he's promised fucking up the world domination plans of the rest of the 1%

Powerful people promise things to weak people all the time to gain control. Stop helping them out so much and then wondering why everything is getting worse for you. They NEVER follow their promises, why would they.

This is possible. But when faced with the choice to vote for someone promising good things, or someone promising bad things, you vote for the former.
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Jakyl25
11/06/18 1:26:53 PM
#161:


Vlado posted...
It's not like the cartoon was entirely changed like SJW censorship is doing to games, etc.


Oh can we talk about games now?
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Jakyl25
11/06/18 1:27:24 PM
#162:


Vlado posted...
foolm0r0n posted...
Vlado posted...
When he's promised fucking up the world domination plans of the rest of the 1%

Powerful people promise things to weak people all the time to gain control. Stop helping them out so much and then wondering why everything is getting worse for you. They NEVER follow their promises, why would they.

This is possible. But when faced with the choice to vote for someone promising good things, or someone promising bad things, you vote for the former.


Or you could not vote
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Mr Lasastryke
11/06/18 1:28:28 PM
#163:


Vlado posted...
The cartoon had some scenes not suitable for children removed - in Russia.


who decides what's not suitable for children? putin?
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Jakyl25
11/06/18 1:28:43 PM
#164:


Vlado posted...
that makes up for the countless thousands of right-wingers getting censored, including tens of very prominent voices with thousands (in Alex Jones' case, millions) of followers?

Havent you said yourself that you believe theres a good chance Alex Jones himself is a false flag by the globalists to make the right look stupid?
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Kenri
11/06/18 1:28:53 PM
#165:


Vlado posted...
the countless thousands of right-wingers getting censored

Show me the evidence that more right-wingers get hit than left-wingers.
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Espeon
11/06/18 1:30:15 PM
#166:


Vlado posted...
foolm0r0n posted...
Vlado posted...
When he's promised fucking up the world domination plans of the rest of the 1%

Powerful people promise things to weak people all the time to gain control. Stop helping them out so much and then wondering why everything is getting worse for you. They NEVER follow their promises, why would they.

This is possible. But when faced with the choice to vote for someone promising good things, or someone promising bad things, you vote for the former.


So youre okay with someone promising good things as a lie to dupe gullible rubes like you?
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foolm0r0n
11/06/18 1:31:18 PM
#167:


Vlado posted...
This is possible. But when faced with the choice to vote for someone promising good things, or someone promising bad things, you vote for the former.

No, YOU go online and praise anyone voting for your liar and attack anyone voting for the other liar.

You're not from the US so you don't understand how our politics work. They always lie. It's not a possibility, it's a given. Our duty as Americans is to figure out how to chain the leaders up so they fuck up as little as possible.

In your country you are killed if you imply that the leader is a liar. I get that. You HAVE to rally behind them. But not in ours. Distrusting the leader is what we do. Anyone who trusts the leader is 100% a sucker and low-intelligence.
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foolm0r0n
11/06/18 1:34:39 PM
#168:


https://imgur.com/gmRyQ6w

Example of what gets you censored on the internet nowadays

Vlado what has gotten you censored lately?
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Mr Lasastryke
11/06/18 1:37:12 PM
#169:


Censorship is a very dangerous thing & absolutely impossible to police. If you are weeding out Fake News, there is nothing so Fake as CNN & MSNBC, & yet I do not ask that their sick behavior be removed. I get used to it and watch with a grain of salt, or dont watch at all.

Too many voices are being destroyed, some good & some bad, and that cannot be allowed to happen. Who is making the choices, because I can already tell you that too many mistakes are being made. Let everybody participate, good & bad, and we will all just have to figure it out!

Except when it comes to Steven Universe. Fuck that shit.


i modified these trump tweets vlado praised to make them more in line with vlado's actual stance on this
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CelesMyUserName
11/06/18 1:38:43 PM
#170:


Vlado posted...
That's not comparable. The cartoon had some scenes not suitable for children removed - in Russia. The Russian government did not remove them elsewhere. It's not like the cartoon was entirely changed like SJW censorship is doing to games, etc.

religious censorship is still censorship

worse when forced by the government... like, the ultimate worst kind of censorship
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Jakyl25
11/06/18 1:40:11 PM
#171:


The part you missed though is that Vlados religion is the CORRECT one
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Mr Lasastryke
11/06/18 1:46:02 PM
#172:


lol, the "material not suitable for children" was material that goes against the christian religion?

"my best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy, mentally healthy child is: keep him or her as far away from a church as you can." - frank zappa
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Jakyl25
11/06/18 1:48:38 PM
#173:


It was literally the presence of homosexual characters
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Mr Lasastryke
11/06/18 1:49:51 PM
#174:


ahh.

given that it's putin, i should have known.
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Espeon
11/06/18 1:53:46 PM
#175:


I find it hilarious how Vlado claims to be woke and crusading against corporatists, yet I seem to recall during the GamerGate era, he was heavily shilling for DOAX3. Keep in mind, DOAX3 was a pure fan service game that removes multiple gameplay elements from DOAX2 (which had removed multiple gameplay elements from DOAX1 in the first place). Yet despite Namco pushing out this poorly-made piece of garbage (and deliberately doing everything in their power to alienate a Western audience, either by refusing to release the game in the West, or by choosing the playable cast with no input from the West, thus leading to noteworthy exclusions in Tina and Leifang), Vlado still blindly supported the big-name developer over the consumer, based on manufactured anti-SJW outrage.

Face it, Vlado. Its easy for the rich and powerful to dupe people like you. All they have to do is create an enemy, and youll blindly attack without questioning why. Thats why corporations love nationalism so much. Its a perfect distraction.
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Mr Lasastryke
11/06/18 2:36:35 PM
#176:


the obsession with DOAX3 was one of the weirdest things about gamergate. i remember wang constantly posting updates about "ass physics" in the game and whatnot.
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foolm0r0n
11/06/18 2:47:03 PM
#177:


He had to convince others he really cared about the game even though he never played it and probably made fun of it years ago like everyone else
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CelesMyUserName
11/06/18 2:52:26 PM
#178:


I own a limited edition of the game in question you assholes quit literally ruining a vlado topic
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TheRock1525
11/06/18 2:53:40 PM
#179:


Man jerking it to a game isn't even fun. It's too much to focus on.
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Espeon
11/06/18 2:54:03 PM
#180:


foolm0r0n posted...
He had to convince others he really cared about the game even though he never played it and probably made fun of it years ago like everyone else


Nah. Vlado is the embodiment of the stereotype that the Gamers are dead article was written to combat. He never mentally developed beyond fifteen years old, and hes one of those desperate weeaboos who thinks the only purpose female characters have in games is to titillate and serve as eye candy. Thats why he bitches and moans about modern games sucking: they dont pander to dumbass man children anymore.
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Vlado
11/06/18 3:03:25 PM
#181:


Jakyl25 posted...
Into all of my positions really

In this instance, my position that censoring the existence of a gay person in a cartoon is a bigger deal than tech corps censoring what I consider to be hateful rhetoric

Hm. This particular position is only a symptom of the more general brainwashing you've received. The general failures in your beliefs are materialism, hedonism and "equality." Putting the individual over the good of the nation. Everything else stems from there.

Jakyl25 posted...
Oh can we talk about games now?

When couldn't we?

Jakyl25 posted...
Or you could not vote

OK? That's just letting those who vote decide for you, though.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
who decides what's not suitable for children? putin?

Ideally, the family. In a good family, no child would watch such utter trash in the first place. However, since there are tragically many parents who haven't got the time and/or are simply awful parents and just put their children in front of the TV without monitoring what they watch, the government needs to do what it can to protect the children. Very sound decision on Russia's part.

Jakyl25 posted...
Havent you said yourself that you believe theres a good chance Alex Jones himself is a false flag by the globalists to make the right look stupid?

Not quite, I've said he looks like controlled opposition. Perhaps globalists found out he's doing more harm to them than good and decided to limit his audience. Controlled opposition or not, he's definitely a net positive.

Kenri posted...
Show me the evidence that more right-wingers get hit than left-wingers.

Even just Alex Jones is enough. Let me know of a leftist channel that got censored and had anywhere near the size of his audience.

Espeon posted...
So youre okay with someone promising good things as a lie to dupe gullible rubes like you?

No. But Trump's rhetoric has done a lot of good even if he's only saying those things so he can win. As I've said a lot of times, Trump winning is far more important than anything Trump actually does. It shows that that's how people think, that they agree with what Trump said. That they resent globalism and will do what's in their power to prevent it.
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Jakyl25
11/06/18 3:07:58 PM
#182:


Vlado posted...
Putting the individual over the good of the nation.


Every individual is more important than any nation. Nations only exist because of individuals propping them up.

There is no such thing as Bulgarian culture distinct from the individuals that engaged in those activities
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Vlado
11/06/18 3:13:42 PM
#183:


foolm0r0n posted...
No, YOU go online and praise anyone voting for your liar and attack anyone voting for the other liar.

You're not from the US so you don't understand how our politics work. They always lie. It's not a possibility, it's a given.

If you think that's unique to the US, lol. Politicians everywhere lie.

foolm0r0n posted...
Our duty as Americans is to figure out how to chain the leaders up so they fuck up as little as possible.

No. Your duty is to vote for people who will do what's good for your country. Not people who want it to be destroyed (i.e. every globalist puppet). When faced with a choice between Trump and clinton, you vote for Trump because at least he's saying he'll work for the good of your country. And while he's mostly talk so far, he's taken a lot of actions in that direction - if not enough.

foolm0r0n posted...
In your country you are killed if you imply that the leader is a liar.

Nope.

foolm0r0n posted...
https://imgur.com/gmRyQ6w

Example of what gets you censored on the internet nowadays

Vlado what has gotten you censored lately?

That shouldn't have been deleted. Refreshing to see you post common sense every once in a while. Shame it got deleted. I haven't been censored lately, but I'm not a public voice.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
i modified these trump tweets vlado praised to make them more in line with vlado's actual stance on this

The media publishing lies about a very influential country's president that resound around the world is far more important than some low-quality cartoon getting scenes edited out in Russia.

CelesMyUserName posted...
religious censorship is still censorship

worse when forced by the government... like, the ultimate worst kind of censorship

It's not even so much about religion. It's about protecting your children and, by extension, your people.

Jakyl25 posted...
The part you missed though is that Vlados religion is the CORRECT one

It is. Orthodox Christianity is the true path.
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Mr Lasastryke
11/06/18 3:14:20 PM
#184:


Vlado posted...
Ideally, the family. In a good family, no child would watch such utter trash in the first place. However, since there are tragically many parents who haven't got the time and/or are simply awful parents and just put their children in front of the TV without monitoring what they watch, the government needs to do what it can to protect the children. Very sound decision on Russia's part.


lol, i don't think you have you priorities in check as far as censoring goes.

racist and nazi writings - shouldn't be censored
a low quality cartoon show - OMG THIS IS TERRIBLE PLEASE GOVERNMENT CENSOR THIS
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Vlado
11/06/18 3:16:32 PM
#185:


Espeon posted...
I find it hilarious how Vlado claims to be woke and crusading against corporatists, yet I seem to recall during the GamerGate era, he was heavily shilling for DOAX3. Keep in mind, DOAX3 was a pure fan service game that removes multiple gameplay elements from DOAX2 (which had removed multiple gameplay elements from DOAX1 in the first place). Yet despite Namco pushing out this poorly-made piece of garbage (and deliberately doing everything in their power to alienate a Western audience, either by refusing to release the game in the West, or by choosing the playable cast with no input from the West, thus leading to noteworthy exclusions in Tina and Leifang), Vlado still blindly supported the big-name developer over the consumer, based on manufactured anti-SJW outrage.

Face it, Vlado. Its easy for the rich and powerful to dupe people like you. All they have to do is create an enemy, and youll blindly attack without questioning why. Thats why corporations love nationalism so much. Its a perfect distraction.

Except the consumer loses if the game is censored. Oops. For such a long post, you should've invested into thinking for a second first.

Espeon posted...
Nah. Vlado is the embodiment of the stereotype that the Gamers are dead article was written to combat. He never mentally developed beyond fifteen years old, and hes one of those desperate weeaboos who thinks the only purpose female characters have in games is to titillate and serve as eye candy. Thats why he bitches and moans about modern games sucking: they dont pander to dumbass man children anymore.

lol, keep telling yourself that. If you imagine me as someone mentally weak, you can feel some comfort and convince yourself that you're better, I guess.

Jakyl25 posted...
Every individual is more important than any nation. Nations only exist because of individuals propping them up.

There is no such thing as Bulgarian culture distinct from the individuals that engaged in those activities

Wrong. The nation has always done much more for the individual than vice versa. We are stepping on the shoulders of giants. We enjoy all these luxuries right now because better men than us spilt their blood for millennia to get us here. And many of us are prepared to waste away in a mere few decades what took centuries to build.
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Espeon
11/06/18 3:16:46 PM
#186:


The one thing that gives me comfort is that Pharisees like Vlado will burn in the wrath of Gods judgment for the untold violations theyve committed against The teachings of their own religion.
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Espeon
11/06/18 3:19:39 PM
#187:


So why is censorship BAD when its a video game you like, but fine when its a TV show you dont like?

And keep in mind, no one censored anything about DOAX3. The game came out and Tecmo fabricated controversy so brain dead sheep like you would go out of your way to burn your hard-earned money on a subpar volleyball game, just to stick it to the SJW enemy.
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Kenri
11/06/18 3:21:59 PM
#188:


Vlado posted...
Even just Alex Jones is enough. Let me know of a leftist channel that got censored and had anywhere near the size of his audience.

Look at those goalposts move. I'll freely admit that Alex Jones has been deplatformed a couple times, but he's just one person. I don't give a shit about his audience, it's not like they're being censored so it's irrelevant.
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Jakyl25
11/06/18 3:23:52 PM
#189:


Vlado posted...
We enjoy all these luxuries right now because better men than us spilt their blood for millennia to get us here.


Who exactly spilt their blood to give us a better life?

Giving us a better life is generally accomplished through peacetime efforts
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Espeon
11/06/18 3:24:24 PM
#190:


Seriously, Vlado, your entire world view is that of if I like it, its good, and if I dont like it, its bad and evil. That is the mindset of a fucking child, and your CONSTANT gullibility just reinforces the notion that youre an emotionally-stunted manbaby.
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Jakyl25
11/06/18 3:30:10 PM
#191:


I wish I could persecute Vlado for his religion but I cant, since its the correct one.
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foolm0r0n
11/06/18 3:30:20 PM
#192:


Vlado posted...
When faced with a choice between Trump and clinton, you vote for Trump because at least he's saying he'll work for the good of your country

I didn't have a choice between trump and clinton, so I didn't have to make that choice.

You didn't have a choice between them either, and yet you feel like you made a choice.

How much more evidence do you need that you are just a pawn of the 2 party system, brainwashed by US media even though you live halfway across the world?
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Vlado
11/06/18 3:34:51 PM
#193:


Espeon posted...
Tecmo fabricated controversy

Let me see the evidence.

Kenri posted...
Vlado posted...
Even just Alex Jones is enough. Let me know of a leftist channel that got censored and had anywhere near the size of his audience.

Look at those goalposts move. I'll freely admit that Alex Jones has been deplatformed a couple times, but he's just one person. I don't give a shit about his audience, it's not like they're being censored so it's irrelevant.

Him being censored directly affects every follower of his. That said, it's in plain sight that right-wingers are harmed far more by every possible metric. Even the decisively left-wing wikipedia says so:

"Algorithm"

In late to early 2017 YouTube changed its way of screening uploaded videos. this new system dubbed the "Algorithm" by users it automatically demonetizations videos seemingly at random but mostly targets right wing and anti liberal content most notably The Rebel Media is one of the biggest right wing channels hit by this system.

2007 anti-censorship shareholder initiative

On May 10, 2007, shareholders of Google voted down an anti-censorship proposal for the company. The text of the failed proposal submitted by New York City's Office of the Comptroller (which controls a significant number of shares on behalf of retirement funds) stated that:

Data that can identify individual users should not be hosted in Internet-restricting countries, where political speech can be treated as a crime by the legal system.
The company will not engage in pro-active censorship.
The company will use all legal means to resist demands for censorship. The company will only comply with such demands if required to do so through legally binding procedures.
Users will be clearly informed when the company has acceded to legally binding government requests to filter or otherwise censor content that the user is trying to access.
Users should be informed about the company's data retention practices, and the ways in which their data is shared with third parties.
The company will document all cases where legally binding censorship requests have been complied with, and that information will be publicly available.

David Drummond, senior vice president for corporate development, said "Pulling out of China, shutting down Google.cn, is just not the right thing to do at this point... but that's exactly what this proposal would do."[138]

CEO Eric Schmidt and founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin recommended that shareholders vote against the proposal. Together they hold 66.2 percent of Google's total shareholder voting power, meaning that they could themselves have declined the anti-censorship proposal.[139]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Google

Jakyl25 posted...
Who exactly spilt their blood to give us a better life?

Giving us a better life is generally accomplished through peacetime efforts

Every person who protected European civilisation throughout history.

Espeon posted...
Seriously, Vlado, your entire world view is that of if I like it, its good, and if I dont like it, its bad and evil. That is the mindset of a fucking child, and your CONSTANT gullibility just reinforces the notion that youre an emotionally-stunted manbaby.

No. If it's good for my people and/or European civilisation, it's good. If it's bad for my people and/or European civilisation, it's bad.

foolm0r0n posted...
How much more evidence do you need that you are just a pawn of the 2 party system, brainwashed by US media even though you live halfway across the world?

Wrong. I blased both parties before Trump appeared. And if Trump fails to gain control of GOP and it goes back to how it was before him, I will blast them both again.
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Espeon
11/06/18 3:37:07 PM
#194:


For such a hardcore nationalist, you sure do care a whole lot more about American politics than Bulgarian politics. I mean, we all know its because America and the West actually MATTER and if progressives get their way, that influence might spread to your second-world country and force you to grow up. But still, its just amusing how much you loving suckling the teat of globalism, given that its the only reason anyone gives a shit what BULGARIA thinks.
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Vlado
11/06/18 3:38:33 PM
#195:


Espeon posted...
For such a hardcore nationalist, you sure do care a whole lot more about American politics than Bulgarian politics. I mean, we all know its because America and the West actually MATTER and if progressives get their way, that influence might spread to your second-world country and force you to grow up. But still, its just amusing how much you loving suckling the teat of globalism, given that its the only reason anyone gives a shit what BULGARIA thinks.

There's no-one to discuss Bulgarian politics with here. :)
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Mr Lasastryke
11/06/18 3:50:49 PM
#196:


Vlado posted...
Wrong. I blased both parties before Trump appeared.


wow, it's almost as if trump tricked you into thinking the GOP suddenly became a totally different party after a gazillion years for no particular reason
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Jakyl25
11/06/18 3:53:51 PM
#197:


Vlado posted...

Every person who protected European civilisation throughout history.


Protected it from...?
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Kenri
11/06/18 4:00:22 PM
#198:


Vlado posted...
Him being censored directly affects every follower of his. That said, it's in plain sight that right-wingers are harmed far more by every possible metric.

They're affected, sure, but they're not censored. By this metric I get to count every single LGBT person in the world as being censored by social media.

And if it's so obvious then, again, show me the evidence. No, an unsourced Wikipedia excerpt with a bunch of grammar errors does not count, you literally could have put that on Wikipedia yourself right now. Though if you had you might have noticed there's a lot more than the parts you quoted. Wonder why you left out the rest.
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Vlado
11/06/18 4:25:53 PM
#199:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
Vlado posted...
Wrong. I blased both parties before Trump appeared.


wow, it's almost as if trump tricked you into thinking the GOP suddenly became a totally different party after a gazillion years for no particular reason

Wow, read the whole post before replying.

Jakyl25 posted...
Protected it from...?

From enemies.

Kenri posted...
They're affected, sure, but they're not censored. By this metric I get to count every single LGBT person in the world as being censored by social media.

And if it's so obvious then, again, show me the evidence. No, an unsourced Wikipedia excerpt with a bunch of grammar errors does not count, you literally could have put that on Wikipedia yourself right now. Though if you had you might have noticed there's a lot more than the parts you quoted. Wonder why you left out the rest.

There are links at the bottom of the wikipedia article. Click them and read them. Just because no-one has bothered to make clear statistics of right-wing vs. left-wing channels/users censored does not mean we should deny the obvious.
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Jakyl25
11/06/18 4:29:04 PM
#200:


Vlado posted...

From enemies


Enemies such as?

Youre saying blood was spilt to make our lives better but you have no actual examples
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