Board 8 > Nationalist politics topic 11: NPC meme is the gift that keeps on giving

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Live and learn. Today, I found out that John Bolton may actually be one of the good guys.

Globalism, in effect, represents a kind of worldwide cartelization of governments and interest groups. Even though its proponents purportedly abjure global government as such (at least rhetorically, and only for now), the consequence is, for all practical purposes, the same.

Should we, therefore, take global governance "seriously?" Sadly, the answer is yes, not only today but far into the foreseeable future. It is well past the point when the unrestrained and uncritical acceptance of Globalist slogans ("global solutions for global problems") can be allowed to proceed. The costs to the United States- reduced constitutional autonomy, impaired popular sovereignty, reduction of our international power, and limitations on our domestic and foreign policy options and solutions-are far too great, and the current understanding of these costs far too limited to be acceptable.

Whether we are ready or not, the debate over global governance, fought out at the confluence of constitutional theory and foreign policy, is the decisive issue facing the United States internationally.

https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1090&context=cjil
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Democrats are so desperate, they're running fake news voter suppression ads on facebook:

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Vlado posted...

I will support a weaker enemy fighting a stronger enemy, yes. SJWs are absolutely nothing without the globalists behind them.

I guess that's why you want the jews to be killed even though they are white americans. Consistently weak, at least.
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lmao, imagine actually believing that every Trump supporter is a literal nazi who wants to kill jews. It's pathetic how the democratic party has brainwashed you.
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I'm talking about YOU you idiot. I know a ton of trump supporters just want him to save their shitty jobs and other kinds of charity. But you don't. You don't even live in the US. All you want is the cultural change. Eliminating jews, eliminating gays, returning women and minorities to property.

Don't you think it's sad that you STILL have to meekly ignore such a decisive victory for the exact cultural evolution that you want to see in the US? It happened with the murdered cville sjw too. I realize you're just a guy, and you can be weak, which is okay. But ask around your circles. A ton of them ARE able to cheer these victories. Including a ton of Americans. When will you join them?
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Except that's not reality, it's just your attempt to rationalise your feelings. Here I am, posting fact after fact crushing everything you've chosen to believe in. Being unable to deal with such hard-hitting doses of reality, you choose to imagine me as a literal monster in your head as a coping mechanism.
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Some guy made a random NPC generator! :D :D :D

http://npc.eu5.org/

Here's mine:


Post yours!

Meanwhile, NYT with a completely dumb caricature:


Soldiers enlist because they want to fight pointless wars in the desert that bring absolutely nothing but death and destruction? Yeah, no.
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Vlado posted...

literal monster

wat

I'm just imagining you as a good, principled, Christian Man. Do I really think you are one? Maybe not. But for the sake of the argument I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. If you think that is a "literal monster" then the weakness I'm talking about must be really severe.
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Vlado posted...

paperwarior posted...

I guess you didn't say precisely that, but wasn't your point that the true memes tend to stick because those are funny?

ftfy, and yup.

paperwarior posted...

What if you believe a lie? Isn't a joke based on it still funny to you because you don't know any better?

For example?

Meanwhile, it's funny how google are getting smacked hard by their own idiocy.

https://www.rt.com/news/442862-google-staff-sexual-harassment/

I try to avoid dumb partisan memes, but think of one of the memes you don't find funny that you also believe is based in falsehood, like the ones you call astroturfed. Now can you see that from the opposing perspective, your "good, truthful memes" look like that? I'm not saying the truth is subjective, I'm saying that something subjective like humor and something muddled like partisan claims about the facts are a shaky ground on which to build an assertion about what ideas propagate.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Vlado posted...

literal monster

wat

I'm just imagining you as a good, principled, Christian Man. Do I really think you are one? Maybe not. But for the sake of the argument I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. If you think that is a "literal monster" then the weakness I'm talking about must be really severe.

No amount of mental gymnastics can mask your problem.

paperwarior posted...

Vlado posted...

paperwarior posted...

I guess you didn't say precisely that, but wasn't your point that the true memes tend to stick because those are funny?

ftfy, and yup.

paperwarior posted...

What if you believe a lie? Isn't a joke based on it still funny to you because you don't know any better?

For example?

Meanwhile, it's funny how google are getting smacked hard by their own idiocy.

https://www.rt.com/news/442862-google-staff-sexual-harassment/

I try to avoid dumb partisan memes, but think of one of the memes you don't find funny that you also believe is based in falsehood, like the ones you call astroturfed. Now can you see that from the opposing perspective, your "good, truthful memes" look like that? I'm not saying the truth is subjective, I'm saying that something subjective like humor and something muddled like partisan claims about the facts are a shaky ground on which to build an assertion about what ideas propagate.

I can't think of a strong meme that has come from US democrats. Help me out.
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Vlado posted...

I can't think of a strong meme that has come from US democrats. Help me out.

a trump presidency
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I think you're missing the point, but let's say the one about punching Nazis. You had Captain America, Hitler saying "So much for the tolerant Left!" and so on. It was effective because everyone hates Nazis, and Richard Spencer is certainly some form of racial extremist. Being justified in punching bad people is empowering in a very literal sense. On the other hand it led to a counter-meme, "Democrats think all who oppose them are Nazis." This is an example of how memes will entirely convince their own parties and look like utter nonsense to the opposition.
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Yeah, those are both rather lame memes, I can agree with that.
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You think they're lame, but they spread quite effectively nonetheless. Like, in the NPC meme, doesn't an NPC hear a meme and then repeat it mindlessly? That's effective propagation right there.
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Are the NPCs supposed to look generic or unique? It's a real clashing design to have the stock face with anime hair and piercings or whatever.
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I think the point is that amongst us SJW NPCs there is a PS1-era character creater to, on a very limited level, distinguish each other.
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So this yoga shooter went wayyyy too far. Wanting to kill women for not sleeping with you, fine. But you never actually DO it, you just threaten them and then you're in. Total psycho.

These are the people we need to kick out of the US to protect our culture. How about any white nationalist that hasn't had sex with a woman in the past 6-8 weeks gets kicked out? I think that would cover 90% of domestic terrorist events of the past few years.
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paperwarior posted...

You think they're lame, but they spread quite effectively nonetheless. Like, in the NPC meme, doesn't an NPC hear a meme and then repeat it mindlessly? That's effective propagation right there.

Not really, no. They didn't spread outside of their respective very partisan niches. Which is rather embarrassing for the right-wing side that something like "democrats are the real racists" is even a thing. You don't defeat those who want to destroy you by using their own pathetic tactics.

NPC meme is an exception in that it's spreading well outside right-wing circles. Of course, left-wingers are very angry about it, there have been many articles on globalist media whining about the meme, which shows that it's hitting them hard.

Kenri posted...

Are the NPCs supposed to look generic or unique? It's a real clashing design to have the stock face with anime hair and piercings or whatever.

No, it's not. Nothing more generic than mauling your own face in your desperate attempt to look unique. Because you are empty inside.
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Vlado posted...

I can't think of a strong meme that has come from US democrats. Help me out.

How about the term "the 1%"?
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ShelvingStacks posted...

Vlado posted...

I can't think of a strong meme that has come from US democrats. Help me out.

How about the term "the 1%"?

Are you implying Occupy Wall Street originally had anything to do with the democrats, you know, a party full of politicians belonging to, or at least on the payroll of "the 1%"?
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Vlado posted...

ShelvingStacks posted...

Vlado posted...

I can't think of a strong meme that has come from US democrats. Help me out.

How about the term "the 1%"?

Are you implying Occupy Wall Street originally had anything to do with the democrats, you know, a party full of politicians belonging to, or at least on the payroll of "the 1%"?

The term 1% was coined by Joseph Stiglitz, Chair of Economic Advisors to Bill Clinton.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/05/top-one-percent-201105
The Wall Street occupation began 8 months after that article was published.
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OK? Pretty sure it wasn't that guy who came up with it first, it's not even something to come up with, it's a common phrase. It was definitely not him who gave it the meaning it currently holds. The masses make the memes.

Why ignore the rest of my post?
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I think you should read that article. It outlines the whole 1% idea. It was the basis of the occupy movement. Adbusters went crazy when it came out.
If only there was a crowdsourced encyclopedia of important events and ideas that could verify my point. Oh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_are_the_99%25

The rest of your post was bullshit and not worth responding to.
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lmao, so you deny objective reality. Moving on.
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Vlado posted...

lmao, so you deny objective reality. Moving on.

You're the one denying that lifelong Democrat Joseph Stiglitz invented the 1% meme even though I gave you the article where he outlined the whole thing and sparked Occupy.
It's ok mate, you can admit when you're wrong. It's not like you'd have to deny your whole being if you admitted every time you were wrong.
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Sorry I'm not buying your dumbass claim that some single random economist caused OWS with an article. The idea of people at the top exploiting those at the bottom has existed for centuries.

Now, for some clues as to why the description I gave of the destruction of OWS is completely correct:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W81A1kTXPa4" data-time="
http://tarpley.net/2011/09/29/emergency-program-for-anti-wall-street-protestors/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1v1t93/what_ever_happened_to_occupy_wall_street/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_stack

On the other hand, we had of course the government spying on OWS members, but at the end they didn't need to do much - the private parties took care of the "problem" well enough.
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Vlado posted...

it's not even something to come up with, it's a common phrase

but you invented NPCs
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Vlado tell me more about OWS
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No better way to stick it to the 1% than by electing one of them President
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Vlado posted...

Nothing more generic than mauling your own face

There's a lot to unpack here.
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Jakyl25 posted...

No better way to stick it to the 1% than by electing one of them President

When he's promised fucking up the world domination plans of the rest of the 1%? Yes, it's the best you can do. Also, let's not pretend clinton isn't part of the 1%.
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Vlado posted...

When he's promised fucking up the world domination plans of the rest of the 1%? Yes, it's the best you can do.

And how is he doing that? By placing them in his cabinet and letting them make his policy?
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Let me spell it out for you. The 1% is the corporations - the googles, facebooks, amazons, etc. which PUSH SJW nonsense and CENSOR anti-globalist views. The ones whose media libel Trump 24/7. The ones who divide and conquer the working class. You know, the ones doing exactly what you want. As a US leftist, you are a tool of the 1%, you are their very useful puppet.
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Vlado posted...

Let me spell it out for you. The 1% is the corporations - the googles, facebooks, amazons, etc. which PUSH SJW nonsense and CENSOR anti-globalist views. The ones whose media libel Trump 24/7. The ones who divide and conquer the working class. You know, the ones doing exactly what you want. As a US leftist, you are a tool of the 1%, you are their very useful puppet.

nice job dodging deepspraw's question.
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Actually, he's the one trying to dodge my point by insinuating that by being part of the 1% Trump must be a raging globalist. So I had to make myself clear. If he was one of them, they wouldn't be attacking him 24/7. That's clear to anyone who can put 2 and 2 together and know it makes 4.

No help possible for those who have made themselves believe it makes 5, however.
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Vlado posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

No better way to stick it to the 1% than by electing one of them President

When he's promised fucking up the world domination plans of the rest of the 1%? Yes, it's the best you can do. Also, let's not pretend clinton isn't part of the 1%.

I actually dont know if she is or isnt, to be honest
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Its funny that for such a champion of crusading against corporations and fighting for the 99%, one of the ONLY successes of Trumps presidency thus far is passing a tax bill that disproportionately benefits the super rich.

Seriously Vlado, you use globalist as a catch all for anything you dislike. Globalist is as worthless of a term as you claim racist is.
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it's pretty inventive how vlado manages to combine "the 1% sucks" and "people fighting for the 99% are immoral because they don't believe in the christian god."
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

it's pretty inventive how vlado manages to combine "the 1% sucks" and "people fighting for the 99% are immoral because they don't believe in the christian god."

When you think you fight for the 99%, but your actions not only benefit, but are encouraged and strongly aided by the 1%, who not only signal boost the same things you spout, but also censor any opposition, you may actually be fighting for the 1%.
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Vlado posted...

Mr Lasastryke posted...

it's pretty inventive how vlado manages to combine "the 1% sucks" and "people fighting for the 99% are immoral because they don't believe in the christian god."

When you think you fight for the 99%, but your actions not only benefit, but are encouraged and strongly aided by the 1%, who not only signal boost the same things you spout, but also censor any opposition, you may actually be fighting for the 1%.

Right. This is exactly what your side is doing.
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Yeah, look at all that censorship of democrats and democrat supporters by google, facebook, twitter, etc. Oh wait, it's Republicans and Republican supporters who are being censored.
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Vlado posted...

Yeah, look at all that censorship of democrats and democrat supporters by google, facebook, twitter, etc.

Unironically yes, but I guess you don't hear about it when you stick to your alt-right bubbles?
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Yeah, not like theres a government official calling Democrats the enemy and fake news, and actively encouraging violence against them. Nope, Republicans are the only victims. Honestly, Id think youdve learned SOME lesson when you blindly parroted that Google didnt promote Trumps SotU bullshit that was easily disproven.
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Kenri posted...

Unironically yes, but I guess you don't hear about it when you stick to your alt-right bubbles?

Let's see the evidence.

Espeon posted...

Yeah, not like theres a government official calling Democrats the enemy and fake news, and actively encouraging violence against them. Nope, Republicans are the only victims. Honestly, Id think youdve learned SOME lesson when you blindly parroted that Google didnt promote Trumps SotU bullshit that was easily disproven.

No matter how much you try to pretend, only one side is getting censored. Trump exposing the fake news globalist media is a cry for people to wake up at best. He does not actually censor anybody, that's what google, facebook, twitter, etc. are doing, to only one side.
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You know what? Fuck off with that censorship bullshit. You gave up that moral high ground when you defended Putin censoring Steven Universe.
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lmfao, imagine pretending some cartoon is equal to political censorship.
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Censoring that cartoon was worse, actually.
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Vlado posted...

lmfao, imagine pretending some cartoon is equal to political censorship.

oh, so when you say you're against censorship you actually mean just political censorship.

also, i think a government censoring anything is quite a bit more harmful/dangerous than a private company doing so.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Censoring that cartoon was worse, actually.

Of course it's worse to you. You're on the side that was censored in this instance, and on the side doing the censoring in the actually important instance.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

also, i think a government censoring anything is quite a bit more harmful/dangerous than a private company doing so.

Why? That's not a particularly bright position. These big tech companies are far more powerful than most governments.
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And you think Im brainwashed into thinking that
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