Board 8 > Character Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 2

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Who the hell put Kazuma Kiryu second seed, seriously??

Also, why bother with L-Block. That joke died like 10 years ago. Or was it 15? I don't know...

Exystence posted...

Disappointed by Kiryus performance, but should have figured the only people whod vote for him are people who actually have played the games. Bomberman likely gets the default whatever vote.

Bomberman gets the "this game is a god damn CLASSIC" vote.

Mac Arrowny posted...

Terra vs. Scorpion who wins

i'd take Terra

Scorpion is like the Pac-Man of fighting games

nobody actually cares much for them as characters and both are yellow
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ironic comparison considering Scorpion beat Pac-Man in 2002 precisely because nobody cares about Pac-Man
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yellow sff
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Scorpion is the Hilary Clinton of fighting games.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Scorpion is the Hilary Clinton of fighting games.

i'm actually shocked how many relevant images came up when i googled "hillary clinton mortal kombat"
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Master Moltar posted..

Moltars Analysis

So Kiryu got a very high seed due to Board 8 support, but dont be fooled and think hes going to be really strong here. Yakuza has never been worth anything on GameFAQs, while Bomberman is at least something site visitors know, even if they dont care too much about it. If were talking about which character is going to get the apathy vote, its gotta be Bomberman.

...Damnit. I could've sworn that Kiryu wasn't a Board 8 creation and that his seed was legit. That's literally the only reason I backed off of the obvious "Bomberman is more recognizable to casuals" logic.

Mac Arrowny posted...

Have we ever seen any indication that Yuna is stronger than Tidus? That feels like it'd be pretty strange to me, unless FFX-2 is way more popular here than I thought (it's not). Have we seen them in any polls together or fairly direct comparisons, other than these two?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1445-who-is-your-favorite-all-time-final-fantasy-hero
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/841-who-is-your-favorite-final-fantasy-x-character

Not really, but "polls together" is probably the worst possible way to determine the relative strength of two characters that share a fanbase (although those results seem accurate.) We've seen plenty of examples of characters' comparative strength against other opponents not being predictive of an actual head-to-head result between them, most famously Mario and Samus. (Which is never a thing that stopped happening. Samus will still invariably outperform Mario against any character not directly from the Mario franchise, but she still has yet to beat him head-to-head and probably never will.) And I feel like Square leads in general are anti-vote magnets, probably something about their overall aesthetic. (You know, the spiky-haired pretty-boy thing.)

I'll give you another example. Who do you think is the #3 FFVII character, behind Cloud and Sephiroth? Even after he embarrassed himself in CBIX, most people's instinctive response would be Vincent, because his contest debut involved him absolutely crushing what was supposed to be a debated match and he's beaten some high-end characters and even, albeit in fourways, "broke" the Noble Nine even before L-Block could.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2920-tournament-quarterfinal-sephiroth-mario-link-vincent
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3274-division-8-round-1-nana-ratchet-sephiroth-tifa
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3291-division-8-round-2-sephiroth-tifa-kratos-jill
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3822-jenova-division-round-2-sephiroth-vs-vincent
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3849-jenova-division-final-sephiroth-vs-tifa-lockheart

...Right, then. Well, he's certainly not the best at withstanding SFF from Sephiroth, at any rate. Surprisingly few other common opponents to filter results through. Vincent's two 4way results against Samus look better than Tifa's 2013 3way result, but worse than Tifa's 2006 1v1 result; Vincent's 2006 1v1 against Sonic is better than Tifa's in 2005; Vincent got a better percentage on Gordon in a pair of 2008 4way matches than Tifa did in a 1v1 in 2010...and Tifa's 2006 1v1 against The Boss was far better than Vincent's 2008 4way result. But it's tough to compare 1v1s to 4ways. Overall? I'd say it's tough to draw a conclusion on which one has truly been stronger. I'd lean towards Tifa anyway, because she is in fact the only non-Noble Niner to break 49.5% on a Noble Niner in a 24-hour 1v1 (though I'm not sure if 24 hours would've changed anything with Crono-Missingno), and a fairly strong one at that. But I would definitely take Tifa > Vincent in a 1v1.
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LeonhartFour posted...

but then again I don't think that highly of Charizard

he was ridiculously overrated in 2010 (never forget he barely got 55% on Kratos) and 2013 exposed him a bit

He's not as strong as Pikachu.

You're not wrong here. I can't agree with transience calling Charizard a "favorite", if only because Bowser is here. It was kind of a lucky break that Zard caught in 2010, a lot of perfect circumstances.
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Kinda harsh to say nobody cares about Scorpion. I mean I see kids dressed as him on Halloween; I don't see any Pac-Men.
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well yeah Scorpion's decently well liked

Liu Kang is the Pac-Man of fighting game characters
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Is Johnny Cage the Draven?
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I'm willing to go all in on Pokemon this year. (not some stupid sig bet or whatever, just saying publicly that I think they're going to kill it.) Charizard over Bowser, Mewtwo over Tifa, Pikachu over.. I guess Ganondorf? why not. let's see how we feel after tonight's match.
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lordjers posted...

Is Johnny Cage the Draven?

after MKX absolutely
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I've got my duty of unofficial analysis to keep

Lopen's unofficial analysisx4

2B v Cayde-6

Now don't get me wrong, 2B isn't going to be a powerhouse by any means, but I do think Nier (and 2B's Neptune if you know what I mean) has some decent word of mouth coverage so she should be able to pop big numbers on trash fodder. Which this Cayde-6 guy very much is. Most people won't know who he is, and even fewer will care.

2B with 74.12%

Shadow the Hedgehog v Ness

I kinda see this as Tidus v Donkey Kong part 2. Random underwhelming Smash character gets paired against a dude who is kinda hated by significant segments of his own fanbase and had a close match in 2004, and has an easy win. Ness is weaker than DK but Shadow is probably weaker than Tidus too. It'll all about even out in the end.

Ness with 57.49%

Terra Branford v Charizard

Fortunate draw for Terra. I would get no pleasure out of seeing her get a surprise win. This match is notable for being one of the two or three times I will passionately vote Pokemon in a match on this site. I think the Zard is a bit of a FRAUD but he should still be well out of range of even a generous estimate for Terra (who I think will be significantly weaker than Kefka)

Charizard with 65.10%

Bowser v Gordon Freeman

No I don't think Bowser is going to get a Bowsette (ugh) boost (though people may be calling for one after this beatdown). Yes I do think Gordon Freeman is going to be at his weakest point ever, as I don't see him as a character who ages well without releases as he's just not a character with a very appealing design or strong characterization that is going to breed a lot of attachment, and he already looked pretty damn weak last time we saw him.

Bowser with 74.82%
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whoaaa didnt see this one coming!
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Wow Charizard is a bigger fraud than even I thought
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who cares about charizard check out 2b
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who cares about 2b check out bowser

I read lopens writeup and said yeah that makes sense but wow
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The Mana Sword posted...

who cares about charizard check out 2b

I honestly think it's a normal result, Cayde-6 might be Bottom 5 character we've ever had in a contest

She's still doing pretty good though
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I think Charizard is a bigger fraud than I thought, but not as much as the percentage disparity would indicate. I probably undershot Terra a bit too cause it's Terra.

Check out Bowser too looks like I made a good call there.
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KamikazePotato posted...

The Mana Sword posted...

who cares about charizard check out 2b

I honestly think it's a normal result, Cayde-6 might be Bottom 5 character we've ever had in a contest

She's still doing pretty good though

I just want to win the accuracy point with a 100% prediction
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oh she fell back down to 80

damn you cayde
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Much like yesterday with Kiryu I bet Terra had BRACKETS despite being a huge underdog with us cause of the higher seed

I kept it to myself this time cause I didn't want to jinx Charizard, though Pokemon failing to deliver the ONE TIME I actually want them to would be too fitting
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Im torn because I would love to see the accursed Pokmon finally take an L, but on the other hand Terra sucks.

Its a dilemma.
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I will say if Terra absolutely has to win a match this would be the one I'd want her to win

But my hatred for Terra runs deep enough that I can't say I want her to
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I want Pokemon to get upset, but Charizard is my favorite one and Terra is boring

She doesn't get to advance if Tidus and Zidane couldn't
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I think Id rather Terra lose then have Bowser crush the rematch next round.
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Im probably going to stay perfect today but I couldnt have been more off on all four results. I mean, I knew 2B could easily get 80% so that one is no big deal, but the rest, wow. looks like Ness might be safe though.
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anyway, Kefkas got Yuna
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transience posted...

I'm willing to go all in on Pokemon this year. (not some stupid sig bet or whatever, just saying publicly that I think they're going to kill it.) Charizard over Bowser, Mewtwo over Tifa, Pikachu over.. I guess Ganondorf? why not. let's see how we feel after tonight's match.

This aged poorly.
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Pikachu is the One True Pokmon

all others are frauds
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Bowsette pic Bowser vs. Link, who ya got?
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Also...

Literally going from 45% on Mario to 45% on Ness.
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Charizard's still beating Bowser, believe
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transience posted...

Charizard's still beating Bowser, believe

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5168-character-battle-ix-division-3-round-1-kirby-vs-terra-vs

Gonna have to cast doubt on that claim!
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I don't actually see how that poll relates at all! that's a matchup that relies on where the fanbase lands
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Simply that Kirby beat Terra a lot worse than Charizard is, and Bowser is probably around Kirby's level

This just isn't a good result for him in any way whatsoever
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it definitely isn't. (I still believe)
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Cayde-6 vs Tanner whoyagot

Anyway, I'm impressed with Ness here. Shadow was worrying me after Knuckles rebounded but Ness isn't having any trouble. Feeling about him over 2B next round.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Anyway, I'm impressed with Ness here. Shadow was worrying me after Knuckles rebounded but Ness isn't having any trouble. Feeling about him over 2B next round.

Nobody actually likes Shadow anymore, they just vote for him when they don't recognize the competition. I'd post info to back this up but uhh Survivor just came back on so gotta go
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Charizard could still lose this. the night vote is coming

this match reminds me of how this is what we all expected from Terra before one of the contest's great bombs. that devil division is the only division name I will ever remember from this contest.
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I wish that Terra was this Terra and the result was the same

Dante could beat Link getting 70% on this Terra.
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transcience posted...

who cares about 2b check out bowser

I read lopens writeup and said yeah that makes sense but wow

I upped my oracle by 3% after reading it

Wow a brave 100% prediction. Much respect for that
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transience posted...

Charizard could still lose this. the night vote is coming

this match reminds me of how this is what we all expected from Terra before one of the contest's great bombs. that devil division is the only division name I will ever remember from this contest.

Terra wasn't even the most historic bomb in that division!

And I tried to tell you guys Terra's been good since 2010! But Charizard is just worse than I thought.

This is good news for Squall > Zelda since Charizard went 50/50 with her...!
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7258

Alucard has no problem with Peach.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7259

Expected win for Yuna.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7260

One joke easily beats another.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7261

Bomberman has no problem winning here.

Crew Predictions: 21/24

Next Round Thoughts: Alucard/Yuna still seems like a close match as both did as expected in R1. Kefka is looking to coast through R2.

Crew Prediction Challenge:

transience: 24
Moltar: 20
Leonhart: 20
Guest: 19
Kleenex: 19

Crew Accuracy Challenge: Kleenex gets the point for Alucard, Moltar gets the point for Yuna, transience gets the point for Kefka, and transiencegets the point for Bomberman

transience: 10
Guest: 6 (BetrayedTangy, SuperNiceDog, pjbasis, garetha200, ZenOfThunder, Ranticoot)
Leonhart: 3
Moltar: 3
Kleenex: 2
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augh two near misses for accuracy again
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I never considered the other match, but Terra, hell yeah. I think 2005 is my favourite character battle at this point and nothing could replace it just due to the place we were at. 2003 was a big deal too, but 05 had that nintendo boost and the wars over advent children and vincent and the entire devil division. great contest.
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I mean I thought Vincent > Kerrigan was easy too (although weren't you the guy saying Vincent would be weak because he was optional?) but not that easy

2005 was an awesome contest, yeah. It's up there with 2003 as my favorite.
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