Board 8 > Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 11: The Offseason

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KCF0107 posted...

Looking at all the RFAs, this appears to be one of the strongest groups that we've had. Lots of players in the mid-80s or higher.

Sounds like a good year for me to own more than 1 1st rd pick!
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I'm looking ahead, and if everything goes according to plan, we should have the live draft from Dec 14th-16th. I'm really hoping to avoid 21st-23rd due to the proximity to Christmas.
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KCF0107 posted...

Looking at all the RFAs, this appears to be one of the strongest groups that we've had. Lots of players in the mid-80s or higher.

Ugh, please don't say that. I need to avoid looking this year so i don't get tempted.
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Ranlom posted...

KCF0107 posted...

Looking at all the RFAs, this appears to be one of the strongest groups that we've had. Lots of players in the mid-80s or higher.

Ugh, please don't say that. I need to avoid looking this year so i don't get tempted.

You can always give me your picks I'll take good care of them...
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I think there's a very real chance I end up with no picks in the top 3 rounds again.

Restricted Free Agency

As previously mentioned, this minor but oddly detailed offseason event is for a small subset of players who just completed their untampered rookie contract that was exactly three years in length. These players are not eligible to be originally offered multi-year contracts by the team that holds their rights but instead one-year contracts of fixed figures based on the tender level that you offer them.

Our Tender Levels for this season
No Tender = no potential draft pick compensation = $0
Low Tender = potential original round draft pick compensation = $870k
Mid Tender = potential 1st round draft pick compensation = $1.89 mil
High Tender = potential 1st + 3rd round draft pick compensation = $2.52 mil

Now, the mentioning of draft pick compensation there is only applicable if another team attempts to sign your player. It has no bearing on this first phase of RFA. It wouldn't make much sense if you had to give up draft picks to sign your own player now would it? Newcomers and people who don't have a good memory are certainly free to ask me what round a player was drafted in if that affects their tender level.

That being said, you might want to keep in mind about that draft pick compensation when you determine what tender to offer your player. If you think very highly of your player, you might want to offer the highest tender to deter other teams from attempting to sign them. If you don't consider a player to be a part of your future plans, you might want to offer the low tender so that they barely count against your cap space and you could end up even getting draft pick compensation if someone else wants him.

A word of advice from me: The full monetary amount attached to the tenders is NOT GUARANTEED and is usually less than what they would make on the open market, so there is essentially 0 risk to offering all of your players a tender unless you personally hate them with a passion.

You can also engage trade talks with other teams so that you can prearrange a trade that if X player is not signed by another team, you will trade them to Y team for Z compensation that might be lower than what Y team would have had to give up to sign them during RFA. In this scenario, you might want to offer the highest tender level to deter the maximum amount of teams from disrupting the trade.
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RFA Rules

1. I will privately contact every user and inform them of their RFAs and the tender levels. If you dont have any RFAs, then you wont be notified.

2. Users will have three days to inform me which players they wish to sign and at what level.

3. I will publicly reveal all RFAs from user and A.I. teams that can be signed by other teams (AKA were offered a tender) plus their tender levels and the base kind of deal they are looking for.

4. I will give users four days to decide any action, if any, they wish to take. If they do wish to take further action, they will PM me.

Now by "any action you wish to take," I mean that everyone has an opportunity to attempt to sign RFAs from other teams. You might see some sticker shock but keep in mind that some positions are more expensive (WRs, DTs, QBs) than others (OLBs, Cs, TEs) relative to their overall rating. An 80 WR will usually be more expensive than a 90 C, and that's just how things are

5. If a team attempts to sign another teams RFA, then the user who owns the RFAs rights will have three days to decide whether or not to match the offer.

The deadline for the first phase (encompassing rule #s 1 + 2) will be Tuesday, November 13th at 5 PM ET. As always, do not hesitate to ask me any questions.
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All RFA PMs should have been sent out except the Seahawks.

I also want to take the time to say that I am looking to trade away my excess 1st round picks, and I expect to receive more in RFA. I'm looking to either move into the 6-10 range, move a 1st + mid-round pick for multiple 2nds, or send a 1st round pick outright for a 1st next season with light protections (like Top 5).
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Lemme poke them again on messenger.

Does anyone have an alt they can give him? It still won't let him post for some reason

I'm reading that new accts need to verify their email, have they done that?
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I asked him that. Not sure why he is having trouble when the other guy didn't

Ok I see the issue. You need 3 karma to post. He only has 2

He should be able to post now then
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Wooooo

New year, same shit team!

Im pumped!
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Chicken tenders
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I made it lol
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Did the other guy I got to join check his messages at all KCF or do I need to poke him?

All PMs remain unopened.
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He has stat PM and RFA PM correct? I'll poke him on Facebook now

I just sent you three PMs Jablax.

Less than 24 hours from the deadline. Here are the following teams that have yet to complete their actions this phase:
- Bills
- Cowboys
- Packers
- Jaguars
- Browns
- Seahawks (understandably so)
- Buccaneers
- Wildcats
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You got an answer from the bengals?

Yes
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Ok cool. Didn't get an answer on messenger from him and I only know him via Jablaxican so wasn't sure

Shotty is my new HC! Offense Galor!
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Seahawks BTW
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Welcome Jablax!
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Emeraldegg posted...

Welcome Jablax!

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Glad to have you here!
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Jablaxican posted...

Seahawks BTW

division goes through me bub

(and the team that actually won it but whatever)
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First round of RFA is over

I will randomly assign tender levels for the teams that idled with one exception. I intend on explaining and starting the second phase later tonight.

I contemplated extending it for Jablax or adding Seahawks RFA info once it was done, but to keep things going, I decided to personally choose tender levels for their two RFAs so that they wouldn't be punished for their late start.
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RFA Phase 2

The following posts will contain a list of all RFAs, sorted by team, that were offered tenders by their team during the first phase. Each player will have in parenthesis the draft pick compensation required to sign (not simply offer but actually sign) them as well as the default deal that they are looking for to the side.

In order to even submit an offer to a player, you must have the draft picks on hand. Somewhere between post #s 5-10 has the NFL Draft order, which includes any draft pick ownership changes based on previous trades. The only exception is a correction for the Steelers owning the Chiefs' 4th and the Chiefs owning the Steelers' 5th. You should also keep in mind that if you own multiple picks in a round, signing an RFA will have you lose the worst of how ever many picks you have. For example, let's say I try to sign Bears C Eric Wood. I own both the 23rd and 27th overall picks. Should Wood accept my offer and the Bears elect not to match my offer in the third phase, I will end up giving the Bears the 27th overall pick. Also remember that trades have a 24 hour peer review, so you need to act fast if you wish to take advantage of that.

Going back to the deals in question, these deals are for the other 31 teams in the league. The team who first offered the tender is stuck with the 1 year deal unless a team submits an offer during this phase. You can also offer them a long term deal later on in the offseason as well as any time during the pre, regular, and postseason, but what's important right now is that you understand that you can do nothing about your own RFAs at this moment.

If you do wish to submit an offer to an RFA from another team, the deal mentioned is not the exact deal that you have to offer them. You are free to mess with the years, total money, or guaranteed money. As a word of caution though, unless you are trying some bizarre psychological attack to where you offer a deal that would devastate a team financially but would be practically forced to accept, you will want to submit an offer that would ultimately net you the player you seek. Not only that, but you are in essence competing with 30 other teams for the right to simply sign an RFA. If you skimp out on any combination of years, total money, and guaranteed money, you are decreasing, sometimes substantially, the odds that you will get the player.

If you do submit a custom offer, use the base deal as a benchmark. Using Bears HB Knowshon Moreno, he is asking for a 4 / $21.5 mil / $4.24 mil contract. Dividing the latter two figures by the years, you find out that he is asking for an average cap hit of $5.37 mil (21.5 / 4) and annual bonus of $1.06 mil (4.24 / 4).

I hope that everyone understands the slash line that I explained earlier in the topic, but if not, do not hesitate to ask any questions. You can direct them to me via PM or through the topic where most users could help you out.
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Bears HB Knowshon Moreno (1st + 3rd) 4 / $21.5 mil / $4.24 mil
Bears C Eric Wood (1st) 2 / $6.25 mil / $1.34 mil

Bengals FS Rodney McLeod (2nd) 3 / $9.21 mil / $1.74 mil
Bengals CB Barry Anderson (4th) 5 / $10.4 mil / $1.20 mil

Bills K Justin Tucker (4th) 2 / $3.12 mil / $420k
Bills RT Sam Brooks (2nd) 4 / $9.11 mil / $1.44 mil
Bills HB Darrell Scott (5th) 5 / $6.55 mil / $1.00 mil

Broncos SS Scott Morris (1st + 3rd) 2 / $9.55 mil / $1.48 mil
Broncos C Alex Mack (1st) 2 / $6.25 mil / $1.34 mil
Broncos RG Will Nelson (3rd) 4 / $7.83 mil / $1.44 mil

Browns CB Joe Bolden (3rd) 5 / $12.5 mil / $1.40 mil

Bucs FS Alex Odom (2nd) 3 / $8.09 mil / $1.41 mil

Chiefs TE Julius Thomas (4th) 3 / $8.42 mil / $1.38 mil
Chiefs RT James Carpenter (2nd) 4 / $9.72 mil / $1.60 mil
Chiefs FS Joe Bell (5th) 4 / $7.22 mil / $1.16 mil

Colts RG Cedric Rhodes (1st) 4 / $8.98 mil / $1.72 mil
Colts RT Cordy Glenn (2nd) 4 / $10.0 mil / $1.68 mil
Colts LT David Robinson (3rd) 5 / $11.7 mil / $1.85 mil

Cowboys LE Erik Thornton (1st) 4 / $22.0 mil / $4.76 mil
Cowboys LT Demetrius Morgan (1st) 4 / $14.2 mil / $3.04 mil

Dolphins RG Kelechi Osmele (1st) 3 / $21.5 mil / $4.38 mil
Dolphins LG Jonathan Fletcher (1st) 3 / $17.1 mil / $3.48 mil
Dolphins SS Isa Abdul-Quudus (1st) 2 / $5.81 mil / $600k
Dolphins LG Damien Bell (1st) 3 / $12.6 mil / $2.55 mil
Dolphins HB Ryan Matthews (3rd) 4 / $17.6 mil / $3.40 mil

Falcons LT Mark Merriman (1st) 5 / $12.6 mil / $2.10 mil
Falcons RE Greg Hardy (2nd) 5 / $10.6 mil / $1.30 mil
Falcons MLB Alvin Williams (3rd) 3 / $7.92 mil / $720k
Falcons LOLB Vince Johnson (4th) 4 / $6.42 mil / $960k

49ers HB C.J. Spiller (1st) 4 / $13.8 mil / $2.60 mil
49ers RT Paul Marshall (4th) 4 / $9.37 mil / $1.48 mil

Giants RT Nate Solder (1st + 3rd) 3 / $9.14 mil / $1.77 mil
Giants LOLB Malcolm Smith (3rd) 4 / $7.04 mil / $1.12 mil

Hawks DT Glenn Dorsey (2nd) 5 / $15.0 mil / $2.85 mil
Hawks ROLB Tahir Whitehead (3rd) 4 / $7.04 mil / $1.12 mil
Hawks CB Bryan Malone (4th) 5 / $10.4 mil / $1.20 mil

Jags RG Ronald Leary (1st + 3rd) 3 / $22.2 mil / $4.62 mil

Jets SS Justin Bethel (1st) 3 / $8.18 mil / $960k
Jets CB Sam Shields (2nd) 5 / $12.5 mil / $1.40 mil
Jets MLB Reggie Outlaw (4th) 3 / $7.13 mil / $720k

Lightning FS Nate Allen (4th) 4 / $7.88 mil / $1.28 mil
Lightning CB Alterraun Verner (2nd) 5 / $12.5 mil / $1.40 mil
Lightning LE Shea McClellin (3rd) 5 / $9.35 mil / $1.20 mil

Lions WR Torrey Smith (2nd) 3 / $11.5 mil / $1.92 mil
Lions DT Karl Klugg (2nd) 5 / $17.1 mil / $3.35 mil
Lions LOLB Courtney Upshaw (4th) 4 / $5.72 mil / $800k
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Packers HB Ben Slater (4th) 4 / $15.7 mil / $3.00 mil
Packers WR Brandon LaFell (3rd) - 3 / $10.1 mil / $1.65 mil
Packers CB Larry Stanley (2nd) 5 / $14.6 mil / $1.55 mil
Packers LOLB Maurice Davidson (4th) 4 / $6.78 mil / $1.04 mil
Packers RE Michael Roach (3rd) 5 / $9.35 mil / $1.20 mil

Panthers ROLB Sean Spence (1st) 4 / $7.74 mil / $1.28 mil

Pats SS Zach Wilson (1st) 3 / $5.54 mil / $780k
Pats CB Rian Cowan (1st) 5 / $12.5 mil / $1.40 mil

Pioneers DT Sen'Derrick Marks (4th) 5 / $9.74 mil / $1.55 mil

Pumpkins ROLB Jason Worilds (1st + 3rd) 4 / $7.74 mil / $1.28 mil
Pumpkins LT Ronnie Hall (4th) 5 / $10.9 mil / $1.70 mil

Raiders QB Andy Dalton (1st) 4 / $17.3 mil / $3.36 mil
Raiders MLB Mychal Kendricks (1st) 3 / $11.8 mil / $1.65 mil
Raiders LE Lamarr Houston (3rd) 5 / $9.85 mil / $1.25 mil

Rams SS Morgan Burnett (1st) 3 / $6.67 mil / $930k
Rams HB Roy Helu Jr. (2nd) 5 / $12.4 mil / $2.20 mil

Ravens RG Jonathan Martin (1st) 3 / $12.6 mil / $2.55 mil
Ravens SS Mark Barron (1st) 3 / $7.16 mil / $930k
Ravens HB Robert Turbin (3rd) 5 / $12.4 mil / $2.20 mil
Ravens ROLB Greg Brown (3rd) 4 / $7.04 mil / $1.12 mil

Redskins HB Bilal Powell (4th) 5 / $12.4 mil / $2.20 mil
Redskins QB Colt McCoy (2nd) 5 / $16.1 mil / $2.70 mil

Seahawks LE Carlos Dunlap (1st) 5 / $11.5 mil / $1.45 mil
Seahawks SS Walter Thurmond (4th) 3 / $4.72 mil / $660k

Steelers FS Tashaun Gipson (2nd) 3 / $9.21 mil / $1.74 mil
Steelers CB Demarcus McGuire (3rd) $5 / $15.7 mil / $1.65 mil

Titans TE Dwayne Allen (1st + 3rd) 3 / $12.5 mil / $2.49 mil
Titans SS George Iloka (1st + 3rd) 2 / $5.81 mil / $660k
Titans QB Travis Touchdown (2nd) 5 / $17.5 mil / $2.90 mil
Titans DT Quentin Mason (4th) 5 / $14.0 mil / $2.60 mil

Vikings RT Breno Giacomini (1st) 4 / $10.0 mil / $1.68 mil
Vikings LT Matt Walker (3rd) 5 / $10.9 mil / $1.70 mil
Vikings LE Bryant Wilson (4th) 5 / $9.35 mil / $1.20 mil

Wildcats QB Jimmy Clauson (1st) 4 / $20.5 mil / $4.32 mil

Do not feel compelled to participate in this phase if you don't want to. The majority of users sit this one out, but we always get a little activity every season. If you have any questions regarding a player you are interested in signing, let me know. The deadline to submit offers for RFAs will be Saturday, November 17th at 9 PM ET.
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I pick toward the end in each round, so I am willing to assist people if they are looking to acquire an extra pick for the sole purpose of offering if as part of RFA compensation.
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KCF0107 posted...

RFA Phase 2
In order to even submit an offer to a player, you must have the draft picks on hand. Somewhere between post #s 5-10 has the NFL Draft order, which includes any draft pick ownership changes based on previous trades. The only exception is a correction for the Steelers owning the Chiefs' 4th and the Chiefs owning the Steelers' 5th. You should also keep in mind that if you own multiple picks in a round, signing an RFA will have you lose the worst of how ever many picks you have. For example, let's say I try to sign Bears C Eric Wood. I own both the 23rd and 27th overall picks. Should Wood accept my offer and the Bears elect not to match my offer in the third phase, I will end up giving the Bears the 27th overall pick. Also remember that trades have a 24 hour peer review, so you need to act fast if you wish to take advantage of that.

It's Steelers 6th not 5th.

Granted it's a slightly different circumstance as it's an AI team and not an idling user controlled team but just want to point out there is a 95 rated SS available in RFA and last season KCF yelled at us all for not going for similarly rated FS Harrison Smith and letting the AI get him.

I'd imagine AI might be more inclined to match though than an idle user team

It wasn't that I was yelling but in total disbelief that the top-rated FS in the league was there for the taking and no user bit, especially with how hit-and-miss drafting is.
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KCF0107 posted...

It wasn't that I was yelling but in total disbelief that the top-rated FS in the league was there for the taking and no user bit, especially with how hit-and-miss drafting is.

Yeah, that was one where I would have gone after him if it was a previous year, but I was intent on drafting a QB in the 1st round last year and didn't know what it was going to take to draft the one I wanted, so I held off.

2 more things:

1. Kelechi Osemele's last name is missing an 'e.'

2. More importantly, if after the RFA period anyone wants to trade anything for Bills K Justin Tucker, let me know! We're not expecting very high offers, so don't be shy!

The niners are down to trade

hit me up
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First off-season trade!

Bills receive:
Dolphins 1st round pick (27th overall)
Dolphins 2nd round pick (59th)
Dolphins 3rd round pick (91st)
Dolphins 4th round pick (123rd)

Dolphins receive:
Bills 2nd round pick (40th overall)
Bills 3rd round pick (72nd)
Bills 4th round pick (104th)

Basically, the Bills receive a late first in exchange for dropping 19 spots in each the 2nd-4th rounds.

stevr needs to confirm and the trade is up for 24 hour peer review.
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The Bills confirm!

ScareChan posted...

The packers are down to trade

hit me up

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The Steelers are always willing to trade

The Panthers own the 11th and 17th overall picks and are interested in trading back to acquire multiple 1st rounders if possible. Not super interested in packaging players but if you're intrigued by something feel free to send a request anyway and we can talk it over!
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I am interested in acquiring players to replace some retirements. Mostly at the DT and OLB positions. But I won't ignore other positions as well.
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If only a team had talked with you earlier in the off-season about acquiring their 85 overall, 27-year-old DT...
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We never talked specifics though! I'll shoot you a PM though.
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Dolphins/Bills trade is official.

I still have the Titans 1st if anyone wants it for RFA purposes.
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