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TheRock1525 11/07/18 3:02:49 PM #352:	Looks like Jeff's session as AG is over. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:911993544] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Looks like Jeff's session as AG is over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 11/07/18 3:03:25 PM #353:	Great timeline we're on --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:911993584] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Great timeline we're on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
psaltery 11/07/18 3:15:46 PM #354:	Bye bye Jeff Sessions. :) --- Psalm 73:20: As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image. <cite>psaltery posted [p:911994333] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Bye bye Jeff Sessions. :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/07/18 3:22:34 PM #355:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Jakyl25 posted... TheRock1525 posted... LordoftheMorons posted... Gross, indicted Reps Chris Collins and Duncan Hunter have been reelected. Lock them up! Lock them up! Speaking of... Now Trump is free and clear to fire Sessions, right? The opposite, really. The Dems have House Committee investigation powers, so itd be pointless for him to try and fire Sessions and Mueller now. Uh huh --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:911994784] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Gross, indicted Reps Chris Collins and Duncan Hunter have been reelected.</quote> Lock them up! Lock them up!</quote> Speaking of... Now Trump is free and clear to fire Sessions, right?</quote> The opposite, really. The Dems have House Committee investigation powers, so itd be pointless for him to try and fire Sessions and Mueller now.</quote> Uh huh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 11/07/18 3:25:33 PM #356:	Mueller getting fired would be a total disaster and affront to democracy. Don't misunderstand. <cite>Reg posted [p:911994989] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Mueller getting fired would be a total disaster and affront to democracy. Don't misunderstand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/07/18 3:26:26 PM #357:	Reg posted... Mueller getting fired would be a total disaster and affront to democracy. Don't misunderstand. Would be? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:911995052] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reg posted...</cite> <quote>Mueller getting fired would be a total disaster and affront to democracy. Don't misunderstand.</quote> Would be?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
psaltery 11/07/18 3:28:05 PM #358:	The Democrats don't need Mueller anymore. He's expendable. Hope he goes soon! And can't wait to see who else is leaving the Cabinet. Hope Trump cleans it out good! :) --- Psalm 73:20: As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image. <cite>psaltery posted [p:911995166] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>The Democrats don't need Mueller anymore. He's expendable. Hope he goes soon! And can't wait to see who else is leaving the Cabinet. Hope Trump cleans it out good! :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 11/07/18 3:29:22 PM #359:	Reg posted... Mueller getting fired would be a total disaster and affront to democracy. Don't misunderstand. Which makes it all the dumber since it's basically meaningless. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:911995242] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reg posted...</cite> <quote>Mueller getting fired would be a total disaster and affront to democracy. Don't misunderstand.</quote> Which makes it all the dumber since it's basically meaningless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 11/07/18 3:29:25 PM #360:	Jakyl25 posted... Reg posted... Mueller getting fired would be a total disaster and affront to democracy. Don't misunderstand. Would be? It technically hasn't happened yet. Though this is obviously the first step in the process. <cite>Reg posted [p:911995247] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Reg posted...</cite> <quote>Mueller getting fired would be a total disaster and affront to democracy. Don't misunderstand.</quote> Would be?</quote> It technically hasn't happened yet. Though this is obviously the first step in the process.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
psaltery 11/07/18 3:32:17 PM #361:	Ha ha ha they already scrubbed Jeff Sessions's name off the Cabinet listing. Way to go Trump! https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-trump-administration/the-cabinet/ --- Psalm 73:20: As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image. <cite>psaltery posted [p:911995423] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Ha ha ha they already scrubbed Jeff Sessions's name off the Cabinet listing. Way to go Trump! https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-trump-administration/the-cabinet/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/07/18 3:33:37 PM #362:	This is Sessions replacement (the tweeter, not the author of the linked opinion piece): https://twitter.com/mattwhitaker46/status/894363989962100736?s=21 --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:911995517] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>This is Sessions replacement (the tweeter, not the author of the linked opinion piece): https://twitter.com/mattwhitaker46/status/894363989962100736?s=21</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 11/07/18 3:33:39 PM #363:	Apparently Nevada elected a dead brothel owner to Congress. (Not sure if its state or federal) --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:911995520] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Apparently Nevada elected a dead brothel owner to Congress. (Not sure if its state or federal)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
psaltery 11/07/18 3:34:30 PM #364:	Good I hope Whitaker becomes the permanent AG. --- Psalm 73:20: As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image. <cite>psaltery posted [p:911995569] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Good I hope Whitaker becomes the permanent AG.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 11/07/18 3:36:42 PM #365:	Jakyl25 posted... ChaosTonyV4 posted... Jakyl25 posted... TheRock1525 posted... LordoftheMorons posted... Gross, indicted Reps Chris Collins and Duncan Hunter have been reelected. Lock them up! Lock them up! Speaking of... Now Trump is free and clear to fire Sessions, right? The opposite, really. The Dems have House Committee investigation powers, so itd be pointless for him to try and fire Sessions and Mueller now. Uh huh Whoops, I forgot we dont have a President that thinks logically. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:911995693] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Gross, indicted Reps Chris Collins and Duncan Hunter have been reelected.</quote> Lock them up! Lock them up!</quote> Speaking of... Now Trump is free and clear to fire Sessions, right?</quote> The opposite, really. The Dems have House Committee investigation powers, so itd be pointless for him to try and fire Sessions and Mueller now.</quote> Uh huh</quote> Whoops, I forgot we dont have a President that thinks logically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 11/07/18 3:51:59 PM #366:	trdl23 posted... Apparently Nevada elected a dead brothel owner to Congress. (Not sure if its state or federal) State. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:911996593] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>trdl23 posted...</cite> <quote>Apparently Nevada elected a dead brothel owner to Congress. (Not sure if its state or federal)</quote> State.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 11/07/18 4:01:06 PM #367:	xp1337 posted... Anyway, I may have more to say on this tomorrow when I/we have a better grasp on all the results since there are still a number of races outstanding/I'm still playing catch-up a bit on the time I missed. But the Senate is really disappointing. Which seems kind of weird given the House is mostly performing within expectation. With the Senate results as it is, it does feel hollow to say "blue wave" but then you look at the popular vote and the House and historically I mean.. it technically is? I don't think I'm in favor of using the term (except mocking "RED WAVE" which is always okay.) While I've backed away from the ledge I was nearing around 8:30 or whenever I made the decision to check the **** out of this topic, election coverage, and being awake I gotta say I still feel disappointed. Part of that is surely because as we all know (do we? Maybe not, I'm probably overestimating my own notability) I was high up on the optimistic end for how the night would turn out and we definitely didn't get there. We're hovering around my "Cynicism" forecast (which was around/slightly above Suprak's predix IIRC) so like... this outcome wasn't outside my range of expected outcomes but it still hurt to see it happen, especially since it felt kind of front-loaded with the Indiana and Florida (always florida) one-two punch. But also because I think the Senate results - whatever reason you attribute to them - will be seen by Trump and the GOP (and make no mistake they are one-and-the-same and have been since 2016) will see it as validation for the appeals to race and fear that he was going hard on in the final weeks. And in certain areas that might not even be the wrong calculation, at a certain point the results just speak for themselves. And so I think they'll double-down on that strategy going forward. 2020 is going to be dark. And it's just so depressing to me to see that's where this country is heading. I've always thought - and said both before, during, and after - that Trump winning in 2016 meant we were heading down this path and that was probably the last real chance to change course... but a blue tsunami in 2018 was the secret emergency last resort breaks on that and even with a good night in the House, the Senate results keep it from being an indisputable repudiation. So here we go. On a slightly more positive note (whatever I can muster of it, this was an alarmingly dark night for me) is that taking the House is significant going forward. We'll finally have oversight on this administration. The GOP committees have been a joke on this front (in the House at least, the Senate was more legit) and that has been remedied. Any of the worst legislative agenda from Trump will be halted. Though it was always a running joke, there will be no Wall. The ACA is safe... well, what still stands of it (barring lame-duck shenanigans and tbqh I'm not sure what goes on there. Maybe nothing, maybe chaos.) Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are safe and the House originates all spending so budgets should be saner. The Mueller investigation is safe because even in the worst case scenario (and I legit think it was plausible if the GOP held both chambers) that he is fired/Rosenstein is replaced the House can hire him and keep it going. All things equal (i.e. ignoring the implausibility), I'd prefer the Senate over the House because of its power for confirmations, but gaining the House is still a huge deal. Think I had something else to say, but Walker was just called as having lost and I lost my train of thought so let's cut it here for now. The last chance to avoid this dark path was the 2016 Democratic primary. There is no way out now. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:911997096] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote>Anyway, I may have more to say on this tomorrow when I/we have a better grasp on all the results since there are still a number of races outstanding/I'm still playing catch-up a bit on the time I missed. But the Senate is really disappointing. Which seems kind of weird given the House is mostly performing within expectation. With the Senate results as it is, it does feel hollow to say "blue wave" but then you look at the popular vote and the House and historically I mean.. it technically is? I don't think I'm in favor of using the term (except mocking "RED WAVE" which is always okay.) While I've backed away from the ledge I was nearing around 8:30 or whenever I made the decision to check the **** out of this topic, election coverage, and being awake I gotta say I still feel disappointed. Part of that is surely because as we all know (do we? Maybe not, I'm probably overestimating my own notability) I was high up on the optimistic end for how the night would turn out and we definitely didn't get there. We're hovering around my "Cynicism" forecast (which was around/slightly above Suprak's predix IIRC) so like... this outcome wasn't outside my range of expected outcomes but it still hurt to see it happen, especially since it felt kind of front-loaded with the Indiana and Florida (always florida) one-two punch. But also because I think the Senate results - whatever reason you attribute to them - will be seen by Trump and the GOP (and make no mistake they are one-and-the-same and have been since 2016) will see it as validation for the appeals to race and fear that he was going hard on in the final weeks. And in certain areas that might not even be the wrong calculation, at a certain point the results just speak for themselves. And so I think they'll double-down on that strategy going forward. 2020 is going to be dark. And it's just so depressing to me to see that's where this country is heading. I've always thought - and said both before, during, and after - that Trump winning in 2016 meant we were heading down this path and that was probably the last real chance to change course... but a blue tsunami in 2018 was the secret emergency last resort breaks on that and even with a good night in the House, the Senate results keep it from being an indisputable repudiation. So here we go. On a slightly more positive note (whatever I can muster of it, this was an alarmingly dark night for me) is that taking the House is significant going forward. We'll finally have oversight on this administration. The GOP committees have been a joke on this front (in the House at least, the Senate was more legit) and that has been remedied. Any of the worst legislative agenda from Trump will be halted. Though it was always a running joke, there will be no Wall. The ACA is safe... well, what still stands of it (barring lame-duck shenanigans and tbqh I'm not sure what goes on there. Maybe nothing, maybe chaos.) Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are safe and the House originates all spending so budgets should be saner. The Mueller investigation is safe because even in the worst case scenario (and I legit think it was plausible if the GOP held both chambers) that he is fired/Rosenstein is replaced the House can hire him and keep it going. All things equal (i.e. ignoring the implausibility), I'd prefer the Senate over the House because of its power for confirmations, but gaining the House is still a huge deal. Think I had something else to say, but Walker was just called as having lost and I lost my train of thought so let's cut it here for now.</quote> The last chance to avoid this dark path was the 2016 Democratic primary. There is no way out now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
psaltery 11/07/18 4:05:11 PM #368:	The Mueller investigation is safe because even in the worst case scenario (and I legit think it was plausible if the GOP held both chambers) that he is fired/Rosenstein is replaced the House can hire him and keep it going. The House can have him, but are they going to pay for him? Hmmmmm ..... --- Psalm 73:20: As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image. <cite>psaltery posted [p:911997320] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><quote>The Mueller investigation is safe because even in the worst case scenario (and I legit think it was plausible if the GOP held both chambers) that he is fired/Rosenstein is replaced the House can hire him and keep it going.</quote> The House can have him, but are they going to pay for him? Hmmmmm .....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Silvergun 11/07/18 4:12:02 PM #369:	Well, since the governor race in CT is now over, I guess I might as well throw my two cents in. Ned Lamont, four more years of "Dan Malloy", what else can I say other than that? --- Warning, the self-destruct system has been activated, all personnel should evacuate immediately, 5 minutes to detonation. <cite>Dark Silvergun posted [p:911997723] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Well, since the governor race in CT is now over, I guess I might as well throw my two cents in. Ned Lamont, four more years of "Dan Malloy", what else can I say other than that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 11/07/18 4:19:15 PM #370:	Dark Silvergun posted... Well, since the governor race in CT is now over, I guess I might as well throw my two cents in. Ned Lamont, four more years of "Dan Malloy", what else can I say other than that? As long as he doesnt insist on dumbassed pet projects like an unnecessary busway or an unnecessary train system, Im fine with that. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E <cite>Espeon posted [p:911998099] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark Silvergun posted...</cite> <quote>Well, since the governor race in CT is now over, I guess I might as well throw my two cents in. Ned Lamont, four more years of "Dan Malloy", what else can I say other than that?</quote> As long as he doesnt insist on dumbassed pet projects like an unnecessary busway or an unnecessary train system, Im fine with that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TotallyNotMI 11/07/18 4:26:40 PM #371:	Rosenstein no longer in charge of Mueller probe. --- I'm not sure who this MI guy is but he sounds sexy. <cite>TotallyNotMI posted [p:911998532] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Rosenstein no longer in charge of Mueller probe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 11/07/18 4:37:56 PM #372:	So the guy Trump put as Acting AG wrote this Op-ed last year (CNN updated it to 2018 after this announcement) https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/06/opinions/rosenstein-should-curb-mueller-whittaker-opinion/index.html Notice the URL? Titled: "Mueller's investigation of Trump is going too far" It's...happening? Is he going to try and fire everybody months before Dems take the House? This seems borderline suicidal. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:911999206] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>So the guy Trump put as Acting AG wrote this Op-ed last year (CNN updated it to 2018 after this announcement) https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/06/opinions/rosenstein-should-curb-mueller-whittaker-opinion/index.html Notice the URL? Titled: "Mueller's investigation of Trump is going too far" It's...happening? Is he going to try and fire everybody months before Dems take the House? This seems borderline suicidal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/07/18 4:47:49 PM #373:	TotallyNotMI posted... Rosenstein no longer in charge of Mueller probe. This is just because now that the acting AG is not recusing himself, control defaults back to that position, right? Or was it actually wrenched away forcefully? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:911999782] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>TotallyNotMI posted...</cite> <quote>Rosenstein no longer in charge of Mueller probe.</quote> This is just because now that the acting AG is not recusing himself, control defaults back to that position, right? Or was it actually wrenched away forcefully?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/07/18 4:48:33 PM #374:	Jakyl25 posted... TotallyNotMI posted... Rosenstein no longer in charge of Mueller probe. This is just because now that the acting AG is not recusing himself, control defaults back to that position, right? Or was it actually wrenched away forcefully? It's because he was supervising as Acting AG, not Deputy AG so it auto-reverts. --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:911999819] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TotallyNotMI posted...</cite> <quote>Rosenstein no longer in charge of Mueller probe.</quote> This is just because now that the acting AG is not recusing himself, control defaults back to that position, right? Or was it actually wrenched away forcefully?</quote> It's because he was supervising as Acting AG, not Deputy AG so it auto-reverts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 11/07/18 4:49:51 PM #375:	From what I read, it would have defaulted to Rosenstein, but Trump specifically appointed Sessions's Chief of Staff instead. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:911999896] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>From what I read, it would have defaulted to Rosenstein, but Trump specifically appointed Sessions's Chief of Staff instead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/07/18 4:51:49 PM #376:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... From what I read, it would have defaulted to Rosenstein, but Trump specifically appointed Sessions's Chief of Staff instead. Oh, I meant control of the Special Counsel, not the job of Acting AG itself Just wanted to make sure that, in a vacuum, theres nothing untoward there bureaucratically --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:912000027] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote>From what I read, it would have defaulted to Rosenstein, but Trump specifically appointed Sessions's Chief of Staff instead.</quote> Oh, I meant control of the Special Counsel, not the job of Acting AG itself Just wanted to make sure that, in a vacuum, theres nothing untoward there bureaucratically</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mega Mana 11/07/18 5:05:20 PM #377:	... **ing jesus Brian Kemp released information on all 230000 absentee voters. Names, addresses, etc. Are you ing kidding me. --- "In my headcanon, some staffer saw Trump pull out his phone and start typing so they just Terry Tate Office Linebacker'd him out of his shoes." - FFD <cite>Mega Mana posted [p:912000825] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>... ing jesus Brian Kemp released information on all 230000 absentee voters. Names, addresses, etc. Are you **ing kidding me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/07/18 5:11:49 PM #378:	Very glad that Obama alum Buffy Wicks won my CA state assembly district over a far left candidate who was against any market rate housing construction despite the fact that CA (and the Bay Area in particular) are in the middle of a huge housing crisis --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:912001244] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Very glad that Obama alum Buffy Wicks won my CA state assembly district over a far left candidate who was against any market rate housing construction despite the fact that CA (and the Bay Area in particular) are in the middle of a huge housing crisis</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 11/07/18 5:19:37 PM #379:	Mega Mana posted... ... **ing jesus Brian Kemp released information on all 230000 absentee voters. Names, addresses, etc. Are you ing kidding me. What the ever loving fuck? --- https://i.imgur.com/WuDQzsc_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:912001719] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mega Mana posted...</cite> <quote>... ing jesus Brian Kemp released information on all 230000 absentee voters. Names, addresses, etc. Are you **ing kidding me.</quote> What the ever loving fuck?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/07/18 5:23:46 PM #380:	MacArthur was the moderate R who saved the Houses Obamacare repeal bill: https://twitter.com/amysrosenberg/status/1060272129277652992?s=21 --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:912001974] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>MacArthur was the moderate R who saved the Houses Obamacare repeal bill: https://twitter.com/amysrosenberg/status/1060272129277652992?s=21</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/07/18 5:31:13 PM #381:	To emphasize how incredible Tester's win is, 538 last year complied a list of senators and how often they voted with Trump. Then, estimated how often they should vote with Trump based on the partisanship of their state. A lot of Democrats that got picked off yesterday were disproportionately voting against Trump. Nelson was a measly -13.8. McCaskill was a -38.4. Donnelly was a -29.8. Heitkamp was a -37.8. A lot of those a very out of line with their states. Tester was a whopping -48.2. No one else even comes CLOSE. The next closes is Sherrod Brown (hey another win yesterday) at -40.6. He is almost eight full points more off than his next closest competitor. He voted against every single health care measure the republicans undertook. He voted against Kavanaugh without any of that "oh I might who knows tee hee" like a lot of red state democrats. He voted against Haspel. He voted for net neutrality. He voted against Pompeo. Against Pruitt. Against Mulvaney. Against Mnuchin and Price and Sessions and literally every single controversial White House appointment you can think off. Against the White House immigration proposal but for the bipartisan bill. Against all the tax codes. For sanctions. And on and on like this. He voted against Neil Gorsuch. Democrats got hammered on attack over attack for voting against Kavanaugh, and he (from a +20 R state) voted against Gorsuch. AND WON. He had a mere 36.7 voting with Trump record on what 538 considers important votes. In contrast, Manchin had 60% (and voted for a lot of those things above that Tester did not). That puts him a mere two points above such conservative senators as Tim Kaine and Thomas Carper. Machin is actually closer to Rand Paul than he is Tester. Tester is pro abortion, pro LGBT rights, in a state that Trump won by 20. He single handedly dismantled Trump's attempt to head the VA with someone he desperately wanted. And Trump did every thing in his power to unseat Tester. In a state that love Trump, Trump actively campaigned against him for months. And he won. Gg Montana I love you. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/ --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:912002415] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>To emphasize how incredible Tester's win is, 538 last year complied a list of senators and how often they voted with Trump. Then, estimated how often they should vote with Trump based on the partisanship of their state. A lot of Democrats that got picked off yesterday were disproportionately voting against Trump. Nelson was a measly -13.8. McCaskill was a -38.4. Donnelly was a -29.8. Heitkamp was a -37.8. A lot of those a very out of line with their states. Tester was a whopping -48.2. No one else even comes CLOSE. The next closes is Sherrod Brown (hey another win yesterday) at -40.6. He is almost eight full points more off than his next closest competitor. He voted against every single health care measure the republicans undertook. He voted against Kavanaugh without any of that "oh I might who knows tee hee" like a lot of red state democrats. He voted against Haspel. He voted for net neutrality. He voted against Pompeo. Against Pruitt. Against Mulvaney. Against Mnuchin and Price and Sessions and literally every single controversial White House appointment you can think off. Against the White House immigration proposal but for the bipartisan bill. Against all the tax codes. For sanctions. And on and on like this. He voted against Neil Gorsuch. Democrats got hammered on attack over attack for voting against Kavanaugh, and he (from a +20 R state) voted against Gorsuch. AND WON. He had a mere 36.7 voting with Trump record on what 538 considers important votes. In contrast, Manchin had 60% (and voted for a lot of those things above that Tester did not). That puts him a mere two points above such conservative senators as Tim Kaine and Thomas Carper. Machin is actually closer to Rand Paul than he is Tester. Tester is pro abortion, pro LGBT rights, in a state that Trump won by 20. He single handedly dismantled Trump's attempt to head the VA with someone he desperately wanted. And Trump did every thing in his power to unseat Tester. In a state that love Trump, Trump actively campaigned against him for months. And he won. Gg Montana I love you. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 11/07/18 5:32:35 PM #382:	Mega Mana posted... ... **ing jesus Brian Kemp released information on all 230000 absentee voters. Names, addresses, etc. Are you ing kidding me. what <cite>Reg posted [p:912002486] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mega Mana posted...</cite> <quote>... ing jesus Brian Kemp released information on all 230000 absentee voters. Names, addresses, etc. Are you **ing kidding me.</quote> what</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/07/18 5:33:54 PM #383:	And for those purists complaining about Manchin, Manchin himself is a -32.4. He's a true moderate in every sense, bipartisan, all of that stuff. But that is absolutely the best we are ever going to get out of WV. Wrap Tester and Manchin in bubble warp because if they survived this they can absolutely keep those seats democratic for another 20 years. I thought both of their first wins were kind of flukey, but this is genuinely impressive for both of them. A lot of democrats couldn't survive this onslaught in less red states. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:912002554] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>And for those purists complaining about Manchin, Manchin himself is a -32.4. He's a true moderate in every sense, bipartisan, all of that stuff. But that is absolutely the best we are ever going to get out of WV. Wrap Tester and Manchin in bubble warp because if they survived this they can absolutely keep those seats democratic for another 20 years. I thought both of their first wins were kind of flukey, but this is genuinely impressive for both of them. A lot of democrats couldn't survive this onslaught in less red states.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/07/18 6:17:56 PM #384:	WI Assembly speaker considering pulling some NC-style shit and reducing the governor's powers in the lame duck session: https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1060301509584404480 This type of thing is so gross and indefensible. --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:912005241] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>WI Assembly speaker considering pulling some NC-style shit and reducing the governor's powers in the lame duck session: https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1060301509584404480 This type of thing is so gross and indefensible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pxlated 11/07/18 6:33:47 PM #385:	LordoftheMorons posted... WI Assembly speaker considering pulling some NC-style shit and reducing the governor's powers in the lame duck session: https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1060301509584404480 This type of thing is so gross and indefensible. holy christ fuck this stupid fucking state --- [various robot sounds] <cite>pxlated posted [p:912006117] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>WI Assembly speaker considering pulling some NC-style shit and reducing the governor's powers in the lame duck session: https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1060301509584404480 This type of thing is so gross and indefensible.</quote> holy christ fuck this stupid fucking state</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VintageGin 11/07/18 6:39:00 PM #386:	LordoftheMorons posted... Very glad that Obama alum Buffy Wicks won my CA state assembly district over a far left candidate who was against any market rate housing construction despite the fact that CA (and the Bay Area in particular) are in the middle of a huge housing crisis great I'm sure all those new luxury condos will help solve the problem --- Ginhyun https://imgur.com/t7G7uoU <cite>VintageGin posted [p:912006411] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Very glad that Obama alum Buffy Wicks won my CA state assembly district over a far left candidate who was against any market rate housing construction despite the fact that CA (and the Bay Area in particular) are in the middle of a huge housing crisis</quote> great I'm sure all those new luxury condos will help solve the problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
snake_5036 11/07/18 6:40:09 PM #387:	LordoftheMorons posted... https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1060301509584404480 This type of thing is so gross and indefensible. This will be struck down like it was in North Carolina. Let them try it. --- You felt your sins weighing down on your neck. <cite>snake_5036 posted [p:912006483] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1060301509584404480 This type of thing is so gross and indefensible.</quote> This will be struck down like it was in North Carolina. Let them try it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/07/18 6:42:31 PM #388:	https://twitter.com/missmayn/status/1059970926563930112?s=20 Let your hearts grow three sizes this day! --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:912006614] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/missmayn/status/1059970926563930112?s=20 Let your hearts grow three sizes this day!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/07/18 6:52:10 PM #389:	VintageGin posted... LordoftheMorons posted... Very glad that Obama alum Buffy Wicks won my CA state assembly district over a far left candidate who was against any market rate housing construction despite the fact that CA (and the Bay Area in particular) are in the middle of a huge housing crisis great I'm sure all those new luxury condos will help solve the problem If you let them developers will build middle income housing as well. Even if only high income housing would be built though that would still help since the people who will rent those high end units would have rented cheaper units otherwise (which can now be rented by someone with middle income). Making affordable housing is part of the solution as well, but building enough to meet demand with only that strategy is completely infeasible. --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:912007106] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>VintageGin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Very glad that Obama alum Buffy Wicks won my CA state assembly district over a far left candidate who was against any market rate housing construction despite the fact that CA (and the Bay Area in particular) are in the middle of a huge housing crisis</quote> great I'm sure all those new luxury condos will help solve the problem</quote> If you let them developers will build middle income housing as well. Even if only high income housing would be built though that would still help since the people who will rent those high end units would have rented cheaper units otherwise (which can now be rented by someone with middle income). Making affordable housing is part of the solution as well, but building enough to meet demand with only that strategy is completely infeasible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/07/18 6:53:58 PM #390:	One (longshot) scenario where I can see Doug Jones miraculously hold on to his Senate seat: Sessions runs again but is too damaged among Republicans by Trump having shit on him for the past two years to win https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1060317509474283526 --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:912007233] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>One (longshot) scenario where I can see Doug Jones miraculously hold on to his Senate seat: Sessions runs again but is too damaged among Republicans by Trump having shit on him for the past two years to win https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1060317509474283526</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VintageGin 11/07/18 6:58:38 PM #391:	LordoftheMorons posted... VintageGin posted... LordoftheMorons posted... Very glad that Obama alum Buffy Wicks won my CA state assembly district over a far left candidate who was against any market rate housing construction despite the fact that CA (and the Bay Area in particular) are in the middle of a huge housing crisis great I'm sure all those new luxury condos will help solve the problem If you let them developers will build middle income housing as well. Even if only high income housing would be built though that would still help since the people who will rent those high end units would have rented cheaper units otherwise (which can now be rented by someone with middle income). Making affordable housing is part of the solution as well, but building enough to meet demand with only that strategy is completely infeasible. They'll build whatever is most profitable. This is going to be luxury apartments/condos and mixed-use buildings that have more office space than apartments (resulting in a net negative in terms of people to livable space ratio). I don't really have a whole lot of confidence in "Buffy the Bernie Slayer" as she likes to be called. --- Ginhyun https://imgur.com/t7G7uoU <cite>VintageGin posted [p:912007519] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VintageGin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Very glad that Obama alum Buffy Wicks won my CA state assembly district over a far left candidate who was against any market rate housing construction despite the fact that CA (and the Bay Area in particular) are in the middle of a huge housing crisis</quote> great I'm sure all those new luxury condos will help solve the problem</quote> If you let them developers will build middle income housing as well. Even if only high income housing would be built though that would still help since the people who will rent those high end units would have rented cheaper units otherwise (which can now be rented by someone with middle income). Making affordable housing is part of the solution as well, but building enough to meet demand with only that strategy is completely infeasible.</quote> They'll build whatever is most profitable. This is going to be luxury apartments/condos and mixed-use buildings that have more office space than apartments (resulting in a net negative in terms of people to livable space ratio). I don't really have a whole lot of confidence in "Buffy the Bernie Slayer" as she likes to be called.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 11/07/18 6:59:39 PM #392:	LordoftheMorons posted... One (longshot) scenario where I can see Doug Jones miraculously hold on to his Senate seat: Sessions runs again but is too damaged among Republicans by Trump having shit on him for the past two years to win https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1060317509474283526 Sessions could beat Doug Jones there without even raising a single dollar or showing his face. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:912007579] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>One (longshot) scenario where I can see Doug Jones miraculously hold on to his Senate seat: Sessions runs again but is too damaged among Republicans by Trump having shit on him for the past two years to win https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1060317509474283526</quote> Sessions could beat Doug Jones there without even raising a single dollar or showing his face.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurai7 11/07/18 6:59:50 PM #393:	VintageGin posted... LordoftheMorons posted... VintageGin posted... LordoftheMorons posted... Very glad that Obama alum Buffy Wicks won my CA state assembly district over a far left candidate who was against any market rate housing construction despite the fact that CA (and the Bay Area in particular) are in the middle of a huge housing crisis great I'm sure all those new luxury condos will help solve the problem If you let them developers will build middle income housing as well. Even if only high income housing would be built though that would still help since the people who will rent those high end units would have rented cheaper units otherwise (which can now be rented by someone with middle income). Making affordable housing is part of the solution as well, but building enough to meet demand with only that strategy is completely infeasible. They'll build whatever is most profitable. This is going to be luxury apartments/condos and mixed-use buildings that have more office space than apartments (resulting in a net negative in terms of people to livable space ratio). I don't really have a whole lot of confidence in "Buffy the Bernie Slayer" as she likes to be called. Right.... and building the most profitable thing will lead to what LotM said. --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. <cite>Samurai7 posted [p:912007586] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>VintageGin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VintageGin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Very glad that Obama alum Buffy Wicks won my CA state assembly district over a far left candidate who was against any market rate housing construction despite the fact that CA (and the Bay Area in particular) are in the middle of a huge housing crisis</quote> great I'm sure all those new luxury condos will help solve the problem</quote> If you let them developers will build middle income housing as well. Even if only high income housing would be built though that would still help since the people who will rent those high end units would have rented cheaper units otherwise (which can now be rented by someone with middle income). Making affordable housing is part of the solution as well, but building enough to meet demand with only that strategy is completely infeasible.</quote> They'll build whatever is most profitable. This is going to be luxury apartments/condos and mixed-use buildings that have more office space than apartments (resulting in a net negative in terms of people to livable space ratio). I don't really have a whole lot of confidence in "Buffy the Bernie Slayer" as she likes to be called.</quote> Right.... and building the most profitable thing will lead to what LotM said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
psaltery 11/07/18 7:01:44 PM #394:	Sessions should do something else with his time or stick with state or local level politics. I don't want to see him on the federal level again unless it is to support another candidate. --- Psalm 73:20: As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image. <cite>psaltery posted [p:912007695] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Sessions should do something else with his time or stick with state or local level politics. I don't want to see him on the federal level again unless it is to support another candidate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 11/07/18 7:07:49 PM #395:	Suprak the Stud posted... And for those purists complaining about Manchin, Manchin himself is a -32.4. He's a true moderate in every sense, bipartisan, all of that stuff. "Moderate" is kinda generous for Manchin. Kinda extremely generous. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:912008088] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote>And for those purists complaining about Manchin, Manchin himself is a -32.4. He's a true moderate in every sense, bipartisan, all of that stuff.</quote> "Moderate" is kinda generous for Manchin. Kinda extremely generous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 11/07/18 7:16:22 PM #396:	Kenri posted... Suprak the Stud posted... And for those purists complaining about Manchin, Manchin himself is a -32.4. He's a true moderate in every sense, bipartisan, all of that stuff. "Moderate" is kinda generous for Manchin. Kinda extremely generous. It really isn't. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:912008609] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote>And for those purists complaining about Manchin, Manchin himself is a -32.4. He's a true moderate in every sense, bipartisan, all of that stuff.</quote> "Moderate" is kinda generous for Manchin. Kinda extremely generous.</quote> It really isn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 11/07/18 7:16:27 PM #397:	BREAKING: PROTESTS CALLED FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 5 PM LOCAL TIME Donald Trump has installed a crony to oversee the Special Counsel Trump-Russia investigation, crossing a red line set to protect the investigation. By replacing Rod Rosenstein with just-named Acting Attorney General Matt Whittaker as special counsel Robert Mueller's boss on the investigation, Trump has undercut the independence of the investigation. Whittaker has publicly outlined strategies to stifle the investigation and cannot be allowed to remain in charge of it. The Nobody Is Above the Law network demands that Whittaker immediately commit not to assume supervision of the investigation. Our hundreds of response events are being launched to demonstrate the public demand for action to correct this injustice. We will update this page as the situation develops. lol --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:912008612] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>BREAKING: PROTESTS CALLED FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 5 PM LOCAL TIME Donald Trump has installed a crony to oversee the Special Counsel Trump-Russia investigation, crossing a red line set to protect the investigation. By replacing Rod Rosenstein with just-named Acting Attorney General Matt Whittaker as special counsel Robert Mueller's boss on the investigation, Trump has undercut the independence of the investigation. Whittaker has publicly outlined strategies to stifle the investigation and cannot be allowed to remain in charge of it. The Nobody Is Above the Law network demands that Whittaker immediately commit not to assume supervision of the investigation. Our hundreds of response events are being launched to demonstrate the public demand for action to correct this injustice. We will update this page as the situation develops. lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/07/18 7:22:43 PM #398:	Republicans could run a cardboard cutout of Ma Clampett and tell the voters it was Jeff Sessions and hed beat Doug Jones by double digits. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:912008983] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Republicans could run a cardboard cutout of Ma Clampett and tell the voters it was Jeff Sessions and hed beat Doug Jones by double digits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/07/18 7:47:39 PM #399:	Trump is revoking Jim Acosta's press pass: https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1060331883077296128 --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:912010436] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote>Trump is revoking Jim Acosta's press pass: https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1060331883077296128</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 11/07/18 7:48:06 PM #400:	SupremeZero posted... Kenri posted... Suprak the Stud posted... And for those purists complaining about Manchin, Manchin himself is a -32.4. He's a true moderate in every sense, bipartisan, all of that stuff. "Moderate" is kinda generous for Manchin. Kinda extremely generous. It really isn't. It really is unless you think he constantly votes against his own beliefs, I guess. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:912010461] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>SupremeZero posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote>And for those purists complaining about Manchin, Manchin himself is a -32.4. He's a true moderate in every sense, bipartisan, all of that stuff.</quote> "Moderate" is kinda generous for Manchin. Kinda extremely generous.</quote> It really isn't.</quote> It really is unless you think he constantly votes against his own beliefs, I guess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
banananor 11/07/18 7:50:52 PM #401:	Corrik posted... BREAKING: PROTESTS CALLED FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 5 PM LOCAL TIME Donald Trump has installed a crony to oversee the Special Counsel Trump-Russia investigation, crossing a red line set to protect the investigation. By replacing Rod Rosenstein with just-named Acting Attorney General Matt Whittaker as special counsel Robert Mueller's boss on the investigation, Trump has undercut the independence of the investigation. Whittaker has publicly outlined strategies to stifle the investigation and cannot be allowed to remain in charge of it. The Nobody Is Above the Law network demands that Whittaker immediately commit not to assume supervision of the investigation. Our hundreds of response events are being launched to demonstrate the public demand for action to correct this injustice. We will update this page as the situation develops. lol What's funny? --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. <cite>banananor posted [p:912010608] in Politics C... [t:77178584]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>BREAKING: PROTESTS CALLED FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 5 PM LOCAL TIME Donald Trump has installed a crony to oversee the Special Counsel Trump-Russia investigation, crossing a red line set to protect the investigation. By replacing Rod Rosenstein with just-named Acting Attorney General Matt Whittaker as special counsel Robert Mueller's boss on the investigation, Trump has undercut the independence of the investigation. Whittaker has publicly outlined strategies to stifle the investigation and cannot be allowed to remain in charge of it. The Nobody Is Above the Law network demands that Whittaker immediately commit not to assume supervision of the investigation. Our hundreds of response events are being launched to demonstrate the public demand for action to correct this injustice. We will update this page as the situation develops. lol</quote> What's funny?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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