Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1299

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tgs2
11/09/18 6:14:13 PM
#451:


Seeing Auron only getting 55% on somone who only put up ~52% on Magus got me really excited for Sub-Zero's hopes. I then remembered that Auron basically 60-40d him in almost every damn contest the past decade. I wish I didn't

Nice to see Geralt recovering well. Gives me hope in him defeating Bayonetta.
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LeonhartFour
11/09/18 6:14:54 PM
#452:


pjbasis posted...
Usually these Factors are trying to describe things that bend the transitivity though.

Otherwise...it's not really worth talking about except to try to explain where a character's strength might come from. But there's no reason to think Tifa is strong because she's a girl anymore than to think Cloud is strong because he's not.


It kinda does though! Tifa regularly overperforms against female characters, including twice on Samus! Compare what she did to Chun-Li in 2013 to what Ganondorf did earlier this round.
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pjbasis
11/09/18 6:18:11 PM
#453:


That's a lot of messy data between that can be explained in lots of other ways!
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LeonhartFour
11/09/18 6:20:10 PM
#454:


Or you can just use Occam's Razor

This is still a site that's 90%+ male and we still like hot video game girls. Tifa was the original hot video game girl for most of this site. You never forget your first love.
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Wreath
11/09/18 6:22:15 PM
#455:


LeonhartFour posted...
Or you can just use Occam's Razor

This is still a site that's 90%+ male and we still like hot video game girls. Tifa was the original hot video game girl for most of this site. You never forget your first love.


Speak for yourself man I dont crank it to anime
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Samurai7
11/09/18 6:23:10 PM
#456:


I don't think the simplest solution is finding special reasons for each characters unexpected performances to make them non transitive.
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LeonhartFour
11/09/18 6:24:32 PM
#457:


I mean the simplest solution is that Tifa is just really strong and being hot is an intrinsic part of her strength

I don't think it's really that complicated of an answer at all

Hot SFF totally legit
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Nanis23
11/09/18 6:24:56 PM
#458:


LeonhartFour posted...
Tifa regularly overperforms against female characters

Boobs SFF?
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ZenOfThunder
11/09/18 6:27:44 PM
#459:


Boobs LFF

It's like beer goggles, Tifa draws power from the weaker boobs that surround her
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Samurai7
11/09/18 6:28:02 PM
#460:


Sure and that's fine, but really it's just character design. Distinguishing it simply as TJF when we don't break down design in any other way just seems pointless unless you're trying to argue that TJF affects results in away that normal design doesn't. And if its affecting results differently from any other type of design that means it must be non transitive.
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LeonhartFour
11/09/18 6:28:47 PM
#461:


dude we made TJF up in 2002 when we were all 15 year olds and the X-Stats hadn't even been conceived yet

don't overthink it
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Nanis23
11/09/18 6:55:33 PM
#462:


5 minutes to know if MEWTWO IS A FRAUD or not
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SlugSh0t
11/09/18 6:58:24 PM
#463:


whos voting for tifa? I know I am.
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pjbasis
11/09/18 6:58:25 PM
#464:


LeonhartFour posted...
dude we made TJF up in 2002 when we were all 15 year olds and the X-Stats hadn't even been conceived yet

don't overthink it


I hear that, but it's definitely getting thrown around as something more serious than it is sometimes.
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LeonhartFour
11/09/18 7:00:38 PM
#465:


wow 50/50 with the early vote

Mewtwo is a fraud confirmed
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Nanis23
11/09/18 7:00:50 PM
#466:


Oh no
Fraud incoming
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SlugSh0t
11/09/18 7:00:56 PM
#467:


hahahah mewtwo exposed cant even win with the board vote
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Nanis23
11/09/18 7:01:12 PM
#468:


And uh...I thought Luigi would be stronger than this
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KamikazePotato
11/09/18 7:01:14 PM
#469:


FROG
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
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davidponte
11/09/18 7:01:18 PM
#470:


I thought MMX was a fraud too for a second there
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Wreath
11/09/18 7:01:36 PM
#471:


Nanis23 posted...
And uh...I thought Luigi would be stronger than this


X > Luigi was always known
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_SecretSquirrel
11/09/18 7:01:42 PM
#472:


The CT board vote is always great.
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LeonhartFour
11/09/18 7:01:42 PM
#473:


looks like Mewtwo might not be the only fraud here

darn it Luigi
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Samurai7
11/09/18 7:02:06 PM
#474:


LeonhartFour posted...
dude we made TJF up in 2002 when we were all 15 year olds and the X-Stats hadn't even been conceived yet

don't overthink it


I was around in 2002 so I remember (although the account was bhunter88.... and I lost the password before the next contest so I made this account just to enter in 2k3).

That said, if people are treating it seriously I'll analyze it seriously.
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Not_Wylvane
11/09/18 7:02:07 PM
#475:


Green rSFF
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SwiftyDC
11/09/18 7:02:17 PM
#476:


CT is strong!
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KamikazePotato
11/09/18 7:02:17 PM
#477:


Feeling good about Tifa winning the division right now!
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
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Janus5k
11/09/18 7:02:28 PM
#478:


Lower thine guard etc.
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Wreath
11/09/18 7:02:33 PM
#479:


KamikazePotato posted...
Feeling good about Tifa winning the division right now!


What
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SlugSh0t
11/09/18 7:02:35 PM
#480:


who the hell votes luigi seriously? he's always been a fraud next to mario
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Nanis23
11/09/18 7:02:39 PM
#481:


Yeah ok Tifa is totally killing Mewtwo
What the fuck
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LeonhartFour
11/09/18 7:03:21 PM
#482:


Samurai7 posted...
That said, if people are treating it seriously I'll analyze it seriously.


well people are treating it seriously in the sense that being an attractive girl is a part of someone like Tifa's strength
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red sox 777
11/09/18 7:03:25 PM
#483:


It's the middle of the ASV folks. Let's goooooooo Frog!
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davidponte
11/09/18 7:03:35 PM
#484:


This simultaneously confirms Sephiroth > Luigi and Luigi not even getting to that point.
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FSABot
11/09/18 7:03:37 PM
#485:


Maybe people are finally getting tired of all these Pokemans
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Wreath
11/09/18 7:04:15 PM
#486:


davidponte posted...
This simultaneously confirms Sephiroth > Luigi and Luigi not even getting to that point.


X > Sephiroth tho
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Nanis23
11/09/18 7:04:49 PM
#487:


Guess I was wrong for calling out Charmander's prediction % on Mewtwo being too low
Wow this is so pathetic
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im317
11/09/18 7:05:10 PM
#488:


nah Ryu>Sephiroth
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Zylothewolf
11/09/18 7:05:53 PM
#489:


Mewtwo is not a fraud, Tifa > Link!
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CaptainOfCrush
11/09/18 7:06:16 PM
#490:


Kicking myself at not taking Crono to do more after spending two podcasts talking about it.

Also, Mega Man X. =)
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tennisboy213
11/09/18 7:06:38 PM
#491:


Mewtwo literally a bigger fraud than anyone predicted
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Samurai7
11/09/18 7:06:50 PM
#492:


LeonhartFour posted...
Samurai7 posted...
That said, if people are treating it seriously I'll analyze it seriously.


well people are treating it seriously in the sense that being an attractive girl is a part of someone like Tifa's strength


eeeh they were treating it seriously like it was the only thing bayonetta should've needed to win.
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LordoftheMorons
11/09/18 7:07:28 PM
#493:


Great job Tifa

What is Luigi doing
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Averia
11/09/18 7:07:35 PM
#494:


So
Pikachu > Red > Fraudizard > Fraud^Two ?
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CaptainOfCrush
11/09/18 7:07:42 PM
#495:


Predicting Mewtwo at least finishes above 40. Tifa's board vote is not bad and I honestly dont remember Pokemons being that great.
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BlAcK TuRtLe
11/09/18 7:08:01 PM
#496:


tennisboy213 posted...
Mewtwo literally a bigger fraud than anyone predicted

This is about where I figured he'd be on a Yoga that is going to get blown out by X, especially after Charizard and Pikachu looked like shit
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Haste_2
11/09/18 7:08:30 PM
#497:


Dang Mewtwo. I didn't expect the guy to win, but to be this weak? Looks like he's not only a fraud, but he's fallen in strength, too. Probably couldn't even get 60% on Phoenix anymore!
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_Dog_
11/09/18 7:08:45 PM
#498:


Mewtwo = turd of the round?
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LeonhartFour
11/09/18 7:08:46 PM
#499:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
Predicting Mewtwo at least finishes above 40. Tifa's board vote is not bad and I honestly dont remember Pokemons being that great.


Tifa's board vote was pretty bad last round!

Pokemon has been one of the most frontloaded entities this contest.
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OrangeCrush980
11/09/18 7:08:55 PM
#500:


I remember someone saying pre-contest that Pikachu and Red would be legit while Mewtwo and Charizard would be frauds. Oh how right he was...

Still kicking myself for not taking Red > Sora; I saw that shit coming but chickened out.
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