Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 206: Acostin' Fragile Don's Pathetic Press Conference

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SupremeZero posted...

Suprak the Stud posted...

That's true, but McSally has a decent lead already so this would need to break pretty heavily in Sinema's favor. I hope you're right!

It's from Maricopa county, it most likely would.

Maricopa barely went to Sinema and it traditionally goes to republicans and they don't know where in Maricopa they come from and there are some really red areas of the county.

You're really hoping for Pima county to come up big.
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https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/ohio/

This is another really good results for Dems in a state that went extremely poorly for them overall. He doesn't quite have the same rural appeal that Klobuchar does based on these numbers, but he didn't really need it. He may not have as much appeal in places like Iowa/Wisconsin as Klobuchar, but maybe! Plus, if the Dems take Ohio suddenly those aren't as important.

https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/pennsylvania/

I don't know much about Bob Casey or Tom Wolf, so I don't know what sort of national appeal they have. But that would be a really good way to shore up what is probably the most important of those three states. I am fairly confident Michigan comes back, but Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are a bit more uncertain to me.

I'm just trying to find good candidates for 2020 that have a good chance winning the three states we really need to win back.
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https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/wisconsin/

Tammy Baldwin might be interesting too. Like Klobuchar, she does a great job keeping the bleeding to a minimum in the rural areas which a lot of Dems struggled to do in red/purple/even blue states yesterday. I am not as impressed with Evers even though he had a tougher opponent.

Again, I don't know if any of these could do a good job in a primary scenario where you're getting all the most liberal voters out there, but I think, strategically, some one from one of these states would be ideal at the top of the ticket. Or at least VP consideration.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/ohio/

This is another really good results for Dems in a state that went extremely poorly for them overall. He doesn't quite have the same rural appeal that Klobuchar does based on these numbers, but he didn't really need it. He may not have as much appeal in places like Iowa/Wisconsin as Klobuchar, but maybe! Plus, if the Dems take Ohio suddenly those aren't as important.

https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/pennsylvania/

I don't know much about Bob Casey or Tom Wolf, so I don't know what sort of national appeal they have. But that would be a really good way to shore up what is probably the most important of those three states. I am fairly confident Michigan comes back, but Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are a bit more uncertain to me.

I'm just trying to find good candidates for 2020 that have a good chance winning the three states we really need to win back.

Lol at tom wolf or Bob Casey.
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It should be pointed out that Mississippi has the largest African-American population in the country, and any runoff there will be occurring at time when the African-American political community might already be focused on the region to build support for runoff/litigation/recount drama for African-American candidates in nearby states.

Just saying.
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Yuma just added their totals to Arizona and Sinema netted 400 votes or so.

https://results.arizona.vote/#/featured/4/0

Betting markets went crazy and Sinema shot up 0.14. McSally is still favored though!
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https://twitter.com/Tim_Canova/status/1060575611868114944?s=19

Lol
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You lol at the weirdest shit, dude.
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LapisLazuli posted...

You lol at the weirdest shit, dude.

Perhaps you should stop calling attention to it.
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Isn't Broward the county where a significant amount of ballots were reported with votes for Nelson but not Gillum? Or maybe I have it backwards.

It's not a stretch to think something weird is happening there, right?
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Isn't Broward the county where a significant amount of ballots were reported with votes for Nelson but not Gillum? Or maybe I have it backwards.

It's not a stretch to think something weird is happening there, right?

https://twitter.com/Tim_Canova/status/1060558472796868608

They guy Corrik quoted was DWS competitor and he is arguing she...cheated? For herself? But let the other two candidates lose? Because...republicans...are the uni-party?
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https://twitter.com/ZaRdOz420WPN/status/1060541940238823425

He genuinely believes the democrats and republicans cheated him out of...130k votes.

That legitimately does deserve a lol imo.

(that was retweeted by Canova)

Southern Florida, man.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

https://twitter.com/ZaRdOz420WPN/status/1060541940238823425

He genuinely believes the democrats and republicans cheated him out of...130k votes.

That legitimately does deserve a lol imo.

(that was retweeted by Canova)

Southern Florida, man.

Nah. I am an idiot and a moron and people should stop calling attention to my stupidity. Etc.

*Rolls eyes*.

People caught again just assuming and lining up to support the letter they think is in front of the name.
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Canova's a joke
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Betting markets are completely overreacting to the Yuma update and Sinema and McSally may be tied soon in share price.

Might be worth a look, imo...
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A current pretty plausible theory for the Broward County Senate undervoting is the county's atrocious ballot design (though possible it's machines as the Nelson campaign suggests):

https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1060663434176614401
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Sinema just shot up to 0.8 vs. 0.3 for McSally on Predict it and I have no idea why.
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Oh. Maricopa came in!

https://results.arizona.vote/#/featured/4/0
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That isn't all the mail ins in Maricopa either, apparently.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Oh. Maricopa came in!

https://results.arizona.vote/#/featured/4/0

wait, I didn't realize there was a Green Party candidate in that race

jfc that shitstain needs to fuck off

Reg posted...

wait, I didn't realize there was a Green Party candidate in that race

She did drop out and endorse Sinema, but too late to be removed from the ballot.
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No, no she's actually cool.

Dropped out like a week before and told all her voters to vote Sinema. It may have helped if the margin is razor thin at the end, honestly. She's kind of a hero.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Reg posted...

wait, I didn't realize there was a Green Party candidate in that race

She did drop out and endorse Sinema, but too late to be removed from the ballot.

Suprak the Stud posted...

No, no she's actually cool.

Dropped out like a week before and told all her voters to vote Sinema. It may have helped if the margin is razor thin at the end, honestly. She's kind of a hero.

As opposed to her not having been on the ballot to begin with and not siphoning 40k votes off in a close race?

They literally only exist to play spoiler. The best case for the country is that they're a Russian-supported operation meant to indirectly support the Republican party (As opposed to just Jill Stein being one of those). At least we'll be able to shut that down when the facts come out there.

If she isn't there, Green Party runs someone else who may actually not drop out. Her running, dropping out, is best case scenario. Green Party is always going to run somebody because they like how their farts smell. At least this candidate realized it was close and got out of the way!

Blame the party but not her. She done good.
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The Maricopa County Recorders Office said it still had about 345,000 ballots left to count.

And, while this is very exciting, we have no idea where these ballots were from, if they were randomly distributed, or if they came from a bluer than average section of the total mail ins.

So don't get too excited just yet.

*Debbie Downer trombone*
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Blame the party but not her.

You may notice this is literally exactly what I'm doing (In addition to Stein in particular)

I took "that shitstain needs to fuck off" referring to the candidate, not the party (or Stein).

I'm actually pretty happy with this individual candidate, tbqh!
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Nah it was 100% referring to the party as a whole.

Though I'm still going to complain that this candidate, while smart enough to get out and endorse, still stuck around until it was too late to actually get off the ballot. And, at the very least, currently has more votes than the margin between the two relevant candidates. It matters a lot less if Sinema wins anyways, but it'd absolutely be a massive factor if she were to lose.

As much as I want to bitch about the Green Party candidate in Arizona...a third party guy is the main reason Bob Stefanowski's dumb ass didn't win the election here in Connecticut. Oz Griebel, a conservative offshoot candidate, siphoned off enough votes to secure Ned Lamont's win.

Granted, it MORE OFTEN helps the Republicans, because they're usually smart enough to fall in line while Democrats might split their votes thinking the Green Party is worth a damn, but hey, sometimes third party helps the Dems too.
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Fair enough. The Green Party is butt, sure, I can agree with that!
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Inviso posted...

As much as I want to bitch about the Green Party candidate in Arizona...a third party guy is the main reason Bob Stefanowski's dumb ass didn't win the election here in Connecticut. Oz Griebel, a conservative offshoot candidate, siphoned off enough votes to secure Ned Lamont's win.

Granted, it MORE OFTEN helps the Republicans, because they're usually smart enough to fall in line while Democrats might split their votes thinking the Green Party is worth a damn, but hey, sometimes third party helps the Dems too.

As a reminder

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696

23k of 80k from Pima just came in. Sinema gained a net of 7k from those.

https://results.arizona.vote/#/featured/4/0

Up by a little under 9k now!
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AZ:
https://twitter.com/NickRiccardi/status/1060692557988999169
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https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1060551541415989248?s=21

I think you know there are a lot of white folks out there who are not necessarily racist who felt uncomfortable for the first time in their lives about whether or not they wanted to vote for an African-American, Sanders told The Daily Beast

Bernie is officially too senile to run 2020
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1060551541415989248?s=21

I think you know there are a lot of white folks out there who are not necessarily racist who felt uncomfortable for the first time in their lives about whether or not they wanted to vote for an African-American, Sanders told The Daily Beast

Bernie is officially too senile to run 2020

Or finally senile enough.
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When there was talk of trucks being loaded up with ballots to hide Dem votes it's "lol".

Vice versa and it's a conspiracy.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1060551541415989248?s=21

I think you know there are a lot of white folks out there who are not necessarily racist who felt uncomfortable for the first time in their lives about whether or not they wanted to vote for an African-American, Sanders told The Daily Beast

Bernie is officially too senile to run 2020

Or finally senile enough.

God dammit youre right
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Crazy like a president.
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Regardless of how this winds up, there is something hilarious about MAGA Twitter not understanding how mail in ballots work and complaining about obvious fraud.

"Pima was at 99% and now she just get another 15k votes out of nowhere? DONALD TRUMP STOP THIS HELP US" Like the Dems were honest about the percentages and then just snuck in extra votes a day later hoping no one would notice.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Democrats are randomly finding extra votes at the 25th hour, like always. There are videos of ballots being loaded on trucks, which you can pretty much guarantee is election fraud.

Yeah but when you pause the video, you can see it's actually just an episode of The Good Wife from 2014.
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The Dems used a "magic card" that let them summon two more Blue Eyes White Dragons to the field and that shit just isn't legit
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When you slow the video down, you can see the absentee ballots karate chopping a woman.
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well this is just fake news

you have to speed the video up
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Suprak the Stud posted...

Sinema just shot up to 0.8 vs. 0.3 for McSally on Predict it and I have no idea why.

Democrats are randomly finding extra votes at the 25th hour, like always. There are videos of ballots being loaded on trucks, which you can pretty much guarantee is election fraud. Of course its Coward County, like always.

Obamas decision to federalize state/local elections might come back to bite democrats in the ass in a HILARIOUS way though. He effectively gave Trump the dictatorial power to investigate election fraud, which I said was fucking dumb at the time.

Oh and Marco Rubio is the one reporting this, if you want a source.

Wrong state, Chief.
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It would be strange to accuse Arizona of fraud considering the infrastructure there is entirely republican.

In Florida I think the ballots are tabulated entirely by alligators on crystal meth which may explain some of the weirdness.
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Don't disrespect alligators like that.
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I'm not saying Sinema is going to win (way too many votes out) or saying this is even a good strategy going forward, but:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kyrsten-sinema-not-progressive_us_5bdca881e4b09d43e31edfa3

But thats not who Sinema is anymore. Or if it is, shes been hiding it for more than half of her career in elected office. Shes now the type of moderate more likely to punch a hippie, metaphorically speaking, than to dance with them. A look at her record, combined with interviews with Democrats and progressives in the state many of whom didnt want to go on the record criticizing their partys best chance to win statewide office since Janet Napolitanos gubernatorial victory in 2006 show a politician who is willing to buck progressive wishes and sometimes seems to go out of her way to aggravate the left.

While other Democrats in heavily diverse Sun Belt states Stacey Abrams in Georgia, Andrew Gillum in Florida and David Garcia in Arizona are trying to juice up minority turnout and expand the electorate, Sinema is equally focused on wooing independents and Republicans, while hoping progressives stay in line.

In competitive races, Abrams lost, Gillum lost, Garcia lost. All different races, sure, but maybe AZ was smart to nominate a more moderate democrat for its senate race considering the demographics of the state.
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https://nypost.com/2018/11/08/florida-teacher-finds-provisional-ballot-box-in-storage-area/

Florida is really fucking up.
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