Board 8 > Danganronpa Mafia - CHAPTER 5: The Last Shred of Hope

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What was the question again sultan ? I'm not sure if I remember it atm

Those were the claims I was expecting I suppose.

IGCD I can guess why, but what was the reason you resisted the sametime so much yesterday?
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Why did you gift Death?
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Why did you gift Death?

Oh I thought I answered that.

But again I have been town reading death for most of the game I think. I really liked his isoing people as well.

I also wanted to give a gift outside the people j already have to disprove the death theory obviously.

Now I am regretting the play at this point but is what it is

Hmm okay
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2. TheSultanOfSlam
4. Johnbob
5. Turbopuns2
7. Htaed

Like just from my perspective if it's a 5 person scum team the last three have to be in this list.

And I believe sultan and his slot was towny before he got replaced. So easiest solution is a john/puns/death team.

@turbopuns2 explain your role fully please
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htaeD posted...

Those were the claims I was expecting I suppose.

IGCD I can guess why, but what was the reason you resisted the sametime so much yesterday?

Mostly because you pointed out JB being left unclaimed alone, I felt it would be better to not leave it like that.
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Corrik posted...

@turbopuns2 explain your role fully please

I guess we know who the replace is for now
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So Neab lied yesterday. He did not give me a 1-night BP. Him lying about it was a great play however, and I'm glad he did it.

In truth, I was given Immunity to Roleblocks. I was absolutely not going to claim that yesterday, but I can't imagine Neab gives me that ability if he is Scum.

Anyway, the scan was on Sheep. In case you were wondering, he is Town.

My vision of the game has fallen apart with both DYL and Sheep flipping Town, so I've been going back over the other claims. I can't see Corrik's role as Scum. It's way too pro-Town of a role, and doesn't help Scum out all that much.

5 vanilla to 5 Scum balances, but one of them is probably lying, so it would be JB. No reason for him to hold onto his claim yesterday, purely anti-Town.

Puns hasnt been too leadery this game, and his claim makes him less of a night kill target, which explains him not being a target to this point. Sultan claimed an ability, then claimed it was gone.

Now, Sultan's ability, based on what we've seen so far, is either a 1-time BP, or a 1- time protection from Scan. One of those balances in this setup better than the other.

I just need to ISO FFnut because I've been settled on him as Town all game and I have to see if his play makes any sense from a Scum perspective.
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Will confirm what han is saying, I hoped he would go with it.

It also answers why I did not pass out more bp in any case.

I wish you would of checked john/sultan/pubs but yeah, I understand a sheep scan from your perspective.

Here's the thing about FFNut the way he just bulldozed into the game was just town. Him wanting chris to scan him instantly and claiming just reads as town.

But he fell off hard and got replaced.

Puns might be the best lynch.. it's difficult to make the call currently

I didnt trust a scan on Sultan, and I felt that JB was more likely Town. With DYL flipping Town, I was pretty sure Sheep was Scum but wasnt going to be able to push that as well without a guilty scan on my side.
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I can understand that and with corrik information you and igcd are confirmed town in any case I think, no reason for two scum to visit sheep.

I think corrik is still town as well.

So maybe I'm wrong on jb. I am not married I do think its between him andsultan, I will point out however if both corrik and John are town the game is over at this point anyway.

I'd be ok with a death or puns just because I believe both are scum at this point.

Okay if Neab is scum, then giving Han that power would be the dumbest thing to do. Even if they planned on shooting him the next night. So I can only see Neab beeing scum now if Han is scum as well...

Odds are low, but not null
Hmm
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Also thats an unfortunate scan. Though it at least confirms these scans are not insane.
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Ok death, if han is scum who is the second person to visit sheep in that scenerio?

I hadnt considered that. Mostly because I am leaning to you and Han both being town anyway.
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I have to pick up my wife from work I would like that blurb from you and John I asked for earlier though

Blurb?
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Few sentences who you have as scum and why that is

htaeD posted...

Also thats an unfortunate scan. Though it at least confirms these scans are not insane.

Have you ever seen an insane cop?
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Ah.

Well right now, if you arent scum. And there's 3 scum. Then one of John or Corrik has to be scum. And I cant see scum having a role like Corriks (or him faking one that effectively). So I am feeling John is one.

Sultan has given me pause to wonder today. But not enough to rule him out as another scum-member yet.
And that just leaves Puns as the 3rd member.

I think thats the likeliest setup. But I cant help but feel I am being pushed into thinking this..
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I feel like we're just at poe unless someone like Corrik is just pulling one on us. Or, according to Corrik, it's Neab. But even syl, we have poe on the rest.
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what is poe

never heard that term

also I will agree that one of me/corrik/neab has to be scum

and I know I'm not so one of neab/corrik has to be imo

still leaning neab
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although if neab is scum that pretty much means han has to be scum and that's tougher
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Here is the thing JB, that list you put up does not necessarily have to be correct.

I know I am town obviously, corriks power does not fit with the scum team. I would argue my powers also dont fit but meh not worth the argument.

To me you are the question mark here John. Btw poe is process of elimination.

I do not think that Han can be scum? I mean there is the possibility that scum han made a brilliant play carried kill to sheep and knew of his sc to m buddies went with to trigger corrik ability, which h is what scares me lol.

Overall that's a little far fetched right now.

Han can still be scum. But I feel one of the townpowers definitely has to be scum... though that could mean Puns as well.

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We really need to hear from Puns and how his role works. Though I think he did say his 'undead' status did not count towards the player total. So if he is town, its too late to test him now.
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Should we assume puns is the one who asked for a replacement?

I'd hate to stake this entire day on someone who isn't around to play. I hope things are ok with puns, but man is it a poor time in a game to need a replacement.
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Corrik after hans info what are your thoughts in neab now?
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Idk what else to say without getting aggressive about it. Johnbobb is cleared by actions night 2. Igcd by Hans scan and godfather flipped. Han by nightkill attemlf on him night 3. Sultan by idiotic claim by FFnut. And I know I am town.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Corrik after hans info what are your thoughts in neab now?

I don't think it changes anything.
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Han also cleared by saved night kill night 1.
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Well... here is where I'm at..

Corrik hasnt looked scum to me.
Neab has

Neab sends the cop a useful power.

Corrik has sort of tunneled on neab.

The roles to mess with corrik where both town....

Corrik is a fantastic player

Idk anything about neab never played with him...

My brain says yeah neab is probably the scum but my gut is saying Corrik is the scum
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Wait, John was cleared?
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JB tracked by confirmed Tracker going nowhere n2. Not a complete clear, but more unlikely he's Scum.

Neab, do you have any more contracts to hand out?
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Also thats some strange logic there, Sultan.
It doesnt sound like you think corrik is scum at all, until suddenly you do.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

JB tracked by confirmed Tracker going nowhere n2. Not a complete clear, but more unlikely he's Scum.

Neab, do you have any more contracts to hand out?

Seems odd to absolve John and not me/Puns then.
Not that I absolve them anyway, because we could still have a ninja around.
What am I missing about night2? Because I would love to move any one out of this threeway equation.
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Neablis posted...

Here is the thing JB, that list you put up does not necessarily have to be correct.

we're at about 20 hours with 2 votes on you. Three scum would've hammered by now if you, me and Corrik were all town

the only exception to this is that potentially puns is scum and mafia can't hammer because he's gone inactive

Neablis posted...

I do not think that Han can be scum? I mean there is the possibility that scum han made a brilliant play carried kill to sheep and knew of his sc to m buddies went with to trigger corrik ability, which h is what scares me lol.

I don't think Han can be scum if you're not, and vice versa

the problem is both you and han know that if we mislynch today, then it's game over town, so it'd likely be worth the gamble tying yourselves together even if you are both scum
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I know death that's what I'm saying
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Dels has replaced Turbopuns2
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Dels are you scum?
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Dels claim please
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hey guys!

you know the drill at this point if you read the last game i replaced into - host needed a replace and i'm not gonna just let a slot stay empty, 'cause that'd suck for you guys (both town and scum) who want the game to run smoothly

so i'm here to do what i can =)

look, i know all the tricks you guys use when someone replaces in. you tell them to claim ASAP. you tell them the person before them claimed, you lie to them about shit to try to get info. i don't really like those kinds of tricks so just give me a moment to get my bearings and then we'll see.

plus - i'm town, but if I WAS scum i'd probably want a moment to check with the scumboard and see what the previous person had claimed or if there was anything I need to know, so in fairness to alternate-universe me who did role scum (i didn't), let's give me a few minutes here

Well since it took nearly 20 minutes to even get a post from you, a few more wont make much a difference now.
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Dels posted...

plus - i'm town, but if I WAS scum i'd probably want a moment to check with the scumboard and see what the previous person had claimed or if there was anything I need to know, so in fairness to alternate-universe me who did role scum (i didn't), let's give me a few minutes here

I lol'd
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Neablis posted...

5. Turbopuns2- deathvoter

what's this? what did puns claim?

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Hopefully the same thing what you are going to claim..

(Youll get your answer after you claim. Its probably MYLO btw)
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1. HanOfTheNekos - Cop
N1 RB'd by dead protection Jack (confirmed)
N2 RB'd
N3 Scan on IGCD (inno)
N4 Scan on Sheep (inno)

2. TheSultanOfSlam - 1 time nexus, claims to have gone off already

3. Neablis - Variant Inventor. Gives 'contracts', that are powers that are granted if target ends the day with their vote on a person of Neab's choosing.
N1 Gave flavor cop to Sheep (who didn't go for it, but confirmed Neab telling truth)
N2 Gave ???? to FD, not confirmed since FD died
N3 Gave RB-immunity to Han, who got it
N4 Gave Doublevote to Death, who hasn't had a chance to claim it yet

4. Johnbob - Vanilla, tracked by Sheep going nowhere on N2

5. Turbopuns2 - Claimed he keeps his vote when he dies, but that the method of death matters and didn't give more info. Tracked going nowhere N3 by Sheep

6. IfGodCouldDie - Vanilla, scanned inno by Han.

7. Htaed - Vanilla, tracked going nowhere N1 by Sheep

8. Corrik - ok this is a doozy. Corrik is a passive watcher-ish who learns the person who got targeted the most every night, and how many people targeted them.
N1 - Saw 2 people target Sheep - Neab and DYL (confirmed on both accounts)
N2 - Saw 2 people target FD - claimed by Neab and DYL (DYL confirmed)
N3 - Saw 2 people target Han - claimed by Neab (confirmed by Han) and ???? believed to be Kanzaris
N4 - Saw 2 people target Sheep - claimed by Han and ???? believed to be Scumshot

Chris's ability activated at Night, so it didn't get a chance to go off since he was daykilled D1.
DYL's ability was to visit someone each night and do nothing. Went to Sheep, FD, and someone I don't remember.
Sheep tracked Death, JB, Puns, and saw none of them go anywhere.

Everyone is claimed so a clarified claim from you is necessary since PoE says you're Scum.
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