Board 8 > Danganronpa Mafia - CHAPTER 5: The Last Shred of Hope

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Han, why did you tell him that geez.
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Neablis posted...

Here's the thing about FFNut the way he just bulldozed into the game was just town. Him wanting chris to scan him instantly and claiming just reads as town.

But he fell off hard and got replaced.

Puns might be the best lynch.. it's difficult to make the call currently

Sorry, did FFNut start the game, then get replaced by puns, then replaced by me?

FFNut was replaced by Sultan
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Oh. And puns was in the game from the start?

htaeD posted...

Han, why did you tell him that geez.

because either he's Scum who already knows what puns claimed from the Scumboard, or he's Town who should be told the truth?

The whole "I claim this" "lol your other guy claimed THIS" situation is way more likely to misfire on Town.
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Neablis is new-ish, right?

He seems pretty earnest to me. Doing a lot of work to solve things. Writing big stream-of-consciousness posts where he goes through all his thoughts to try to solve some mess of night actions I don't really get. He answers questions calmly and never has trouble explaining himself. He seems confident in himself.

Doesn't feel like scum to me. Not newbie scum, at least. People think he's capable of faking this?

Well, I'm glad Han is in the game. Someone to sheep, if I can ascertain that he's town.

Neab has plenty of experience on another board (Team Liquid?)

Puns was in the game from the start.
Sultan replaced FFNut, who claimed D1 in a Townish manner.
IGCD replaced Zyxyz.
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You cannot Sheep. Sheep is dead.

Anyway, please claim in a timely manner. PoE says you're Scum. I've given all the information I can think to on a short notice.

Any other questions?
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Okay, well, sorry to puns, I don't know what he was going for, but if he wanted to keep up his semi-lie, he shoulda stayed in the game to see it through. My role involves dying and being able to vote, but doesn't seem to be quite what he described. I can't do anything while I'm still alive. Do you guys need more? Or we can keep it a fun surprise for the scum if they kill me. Which I guess they wouldn't. Idk.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

You cannot Sheep. Sheep is dead.

Anyway, please claim in a timely manner. PoE says you're Scum. I've given all the information I can think to on a short notice.

Any other questions?

Not just yet, I'll check out your summary in a bit.

Actually, yeah, why is Corrik town? People are saying his role is too OP as scum? Is that solid meta?

I have an infinite number of contracts.

I mean jb isnt technically cleared n1 and death isnt technically cleared n2 right?

If death is let's say the person who day shot he wouldn't have an action to take n1 right?

And we know only myself and dyl were seen visiting fd so it points to a ninja and so kind of doesnt clear him there but we would know he isnt the rb at least.

that's

huh
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Dels its mylo with a scanner and a sort of watcher hybrid claim so just full claim.

Han, what's your PoE?

My only other thought right now is that besides Neablis being town (which I could be wrong about if I'm a naive fool), I'd also say Johnbobb is probably town?

Reason being his confidence in voting Neablis, the way he keeps bringing up that one of him/neablis/corrik must be scum due to mylo-logic. Sometimes that's a powerwolf tactic (i.e. a scum playing really boldly), but johnbobb doesn't feel like that kind of player.

and quotes like this Johnbobb posted...

hey if you're so convinced I'm scum (like you've said pretty much every day) why did Doop and Sbell both desperately try to special me D2

feel pretty confident too, in a good way

If that is towards me John, you arent quite cleared from a track n2 as two people were seen visiting but had to be three.

Well from my perspective, and I was repeating something that was said about the n1 check.

Neablis posted...

If that is towards me John, you arent quite cleared from a track n2 as two people were seen visiting but had to be three.

Well from my perspective, and I was repeating something that was said about the n1 check.

it was toward dels' claim
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It does make yo uh more likely to be town though like a lot more likely

Neablis posted...

I have an infinite number of contracts.

I mean jb isnt technically cleared n1 and death isnt technically cleared n2 right?

If death is let's say the person who day shot he wouldn't have an action to take n1 right?

And we know only myself and dyl were seen visiting fd so it points to a ninja and so kind of doesnt clear him there but we would know he isnt the rb at least.

Yeah thats what I was thinking at with JB and Puns. Though yes that can technically also apply to me.
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And I guess I will see the fullclaim tomorrow then.
Goodnight all.
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PoE goes like this:

Have believed Corrik to be Town all game and his role doesn't make as much sense as a Scum role as it does Town.
Neab has made some really pro-Town plays with his contract gifted to me.
IGCD scanned innocent.

Leaving Sultan, Puns, Death, JB.

FFNut's play on D1 is risky to do as Scum and seems unlikely from someone new to our community, which gives him Town points.
Death has provided good insight and content as the game went on, and he didn't hide his vanilla claim like JB and IGCD did.
JB was seen going nowhere on N2, a night we know had a kill and a RB (though Ninja wouldn't get tracked), so at the very least, he isn't RB (unless it's ninja RB). Also, he was a weird splinter off of the SBell lynch.
Puns has nothing in his favor.

Other peoples' PoE's look different, but that's mine.
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Neablis posted...

I have an infinite number of contracts.

Can you give a little more clarification on powers available, and such? Or targets?

For example, you didn't give me another contract today. Explain why?
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Okay, and it's 7 alive, and everyone agrees there's 3 scum left?

So if I were to trust you and your PoE would be correct, then the team would be Sultan/Death/JB.

And if I just trust you at all, then IGCD must be town or godfather? Is there any reason to believe there's no godfather, or is that still technically a possibility?

When I die, I'll merge myself with a living player and share their slot, so I'll be able to keep posting. I can vote, sure, but it's their vote too so they can move it and so can I. I won't know if their allignment or role.

Dels posted...

Okay, and it's 7 alive, and everyone agrees there's 3 scum left?

So if I were to trust you and your PoE would be correct, then the team would be Sultan/Death/JB.

And if I just trust you at all, then IGCD must be town or godfather? Is there any reason to believe there's no godfather, or is that still technically a possibility?

God father has already flipped

Question is open to anyone, why does Corrik have to be town, why is that role too OP if scum, etc

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Neablis posted...

I have an infinite number of contracts.

Can you give a little more clarification on powers available, and such? Or targets?

For example, you didn't give me another contract today. Explain why?

Flavour cop
Double vote
Immune to rb

Sheep/FD/Han/Death

There were a few reasons, one was to prove with another member of the game I thought was town.

I thought death was town now I am back tracking a bit, and honestly after our play I figured we wouldn't be able to do it again.

Dels posted...

Question is open to anyone, why does Corrik have to be town, why is that role too OP if scum, etc

With what we know about scrums powers right now

Which is Godfather/Gladiator/Ninja/jack and something if it is a 5 person team doesnt make a ton of sense with corrik just knowing who visits who with most people etc.

N2 is the main mess tbh

We know we have these abilities that went off or were present n2.

Rb/ninja/ godfather and gladiator. We also supposedly know that something triggered sultans powers.

However we also know jb did not move that night, so it's impossible to be anything but ninja on scum team.

It is possible sultan lied obviously and that is something that is a real possibility

And why is Han alive and unblocked despite being a claimed cop?

sorry neablis, i'm not great at night action and role talk. it's not my area. i don't like trying to solve those puzzles.

Well who's claim is the sketchyist if there is s ninja?
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Dels posted...

And why is Han alive and unblocked despite being a claimed cop?

He had a protect on him n1 and a bodyguard n3, and I made him immune to rb last night but made a play in thread and had everyone convinced he was bulletproof @Dels

thanks

Dels posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

You cannot Sheep. Sheep is dead.

Anyway, please claim in a timely manner. PoE says you're Scum. I've given all the information I can think to on a short notice.

Any other questions?

Not just yet, I'll check out your summary in a bit.

Actually, yeah, why is Corrik town? People are saying his role is too OP as scum? Is that solid meta?

I'm not convinced he is town, I absolutely feel like his role works as a scum investigation role.
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Corrik could be scum
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Hey, Dels!
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hi corrik

##vote:Corrik

My logic might be bad but man i hope I'm right...

Corrik being so forceful and being very pushy over neab yesterday and his role being foiled by 2 confirmed towns.. it has to be corrik right? Plus corrik is sneaky good... idk of anyways will follow my logic or my lead on this but I feel like my gut feeling has to be right here.
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Neablis posted...
Here's the thing about FFNut the way he just bulldozed into the game was just town. Him wanting chris to scan him instantly and claiming just reads as town.

is there an archive? do you have any links to posts that show FFNut's behaviour and claim and stuff?

Corrik posted...

Nobody claimed that action. So we know scum was moving night 2 to sultan. And I think Han claimed roleblocked that night as well going to neab. So hold on.

What was there left then. 4 scum? But 1 was gladiator who couldn't move at night besides the night kill.

Hold on.

4 scum likely.

1 is gladiator.

We have a kill on FD. 1 action
A blowing of sultans power. 2 actions.
Roleblock on Han. 3 actions.
Gladiator who can only move to kill but wasn't seen on FD so he didn't put in this action. Thus no 4th move.

Therefore. Neab has to be scum.

And johnbobb can't be scum because he didn't move on this night when we know all scum moved besides the gladiator.

Corrik posted...

Only way this is wrong is if town is lying somewhere or Han is scum lying or sultan is scum lying.

So

Town
Johnbobb
IGCD
Han
Sultan

Scum
Neablis
Puns
Death

I feel like this needs to be required reading for the game.

If everything being said is accurate, that has to be your scum team. If it isn't someone we think is town is lying about actions.

There is no two ways around it. It is impossible otherwise. Night 2 has max actions by scum.
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I could totally be way over thinking thing blah I hate my brain!
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Still haven't explained in that where my gifts that have been confirmed to go to people go in all of that?

Unless you still think that I would give han a gift as well as try to kill him I guess?

Or my rationale killing fd and claiming to go to him as well. Just seems stupid to do to me and I dont think I'm stupid.

Or why I would make a cop unblockable and then not shoot him. Idk how you are getting to the conclusions but meh

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I could totally be way over thinking thing blah I hate my brain!

No it's a confusing situation talking through thoughts is the correct path if town.

We have both seen going to FD claimed by supposed or confirmed town. (Neablis and DYL respectfully).

Thus, if Neablis is town. It would have to be a scum ninja went to FD. If neablis is scum, then neablis is scum.

Kill - 1 action

Han says he was roleblocked. No one in town could roleblock him by all towns admission so far. Which means scum did.

Roleblock - 2 actions

Sultan says his power was blown by being visited night 2. No one as town has claimed this.

Action to sultan - 3 actions

Last scum is gladiator. He was not on the nightkill and was not a ninja. Thus, he couldn't have moved.

All actions accounted for.

Johnbobb didn't move night 2. Thus, he is town. (I missed this earlier... Unless he is a ninja who couldn't be seen moving).

Han was roleblocked meaning he was town so IGCD is town cuz godfather flipped.

Sultan is town because his power was tripped by scum.

I am town because I saw 2 town go to a nightkill which is impossible with the actions tapped out again. And means I also as scum watched the person we nightkilled.

Which again leads you to.

Scum
Neab
Puns
Death

(Note: Johnbobb as ninja could be scum and this was earlier missed).

Now, for this to be wrong.

A. Sultan is lying about being visited and his power going off.

Or

B. Han is lying about being roleblocked night 2.

Then the actions no longer are all accounted for.
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Well ninja Johnbob could make sense for visiting me night 2 beacuse I was pretty focused on Johnbob day 2
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I think we can discount han lying though as you saw two people going to sheep last night Han as cop and the kill.

I doubt he lies about that at all at that point.

I mean I have a few other arguments such as why didn't I send my gift elsewhere and not claim I visited that person and not fd meh.

But anyway han is the least likely I think, could sultan be lying though? Possible why would scjm waste an action triggering that but never cleaning him up?

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Well ninja Johnbob could make sense for visiting me night 2 beacuse I was pretty focused on Johnbob day 2

Why would ninja visit you over being untraceable to the kill?

That doesnt make sense

Just throwing out thoughts and to burn through my power? I dont know
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