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gunplagirl
12/15/18 10:04:17 PM
#152:


FireJoeGirardi posted...
I'm a 2015 account with 47 karma and 237 active posts

Indeed you are
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ProudlyHated87
12/15/18 10:05:16 PM
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ZMythos posted...
EpicKingdom_ posted...
In your opinion.

They are factually not men.


I actually busted out in laughter after reading this. CE is nothing but a laughingstock at this point.
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Ryuko_Chan
12/15/18 10:05:49 PM
#155:


But gunpla you think this particular person is ok to compete in womens league? I mean look at her Brolying the Muslim women

idk I think it has to be on a case by case basis
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EpicKingdom_
12/15/18 10:06:23 PM
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Anyways, it's been fun.. later.

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gunplagirl
12/15/18 10:08:07 PM
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FireJoeGirardi posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
Do you like steroids in sports?


Trans women actually have less testosterone than their cis counterparts so comparatively, the cis are the ones on steroids.


That wasnt what I was arguing but knowing you you completely misread the context and started to argue before you started to read.


Testosterone is a naturally occurring hormone that has plenty in common with most compounds we classify as steroids, at least when we are discussing the athletic kind.

Just a question but did you ever take organic chemistry, by chance?
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gunplagirl
12/15/18 10:10:08 PM
#160:


Ryuko_Chan posted...
But gunpla you think this particular person is ok to compete in womens league? I mean look at her Brolying the Muslim women

idk I think it has to be on a case by case basis

Some women are larger than other women, should we ban 7'+ basketball players? Actually, iirc it's statistically verified that athletes that tall can't even cross the court as fast as their 6'-6'6 foot tall counterparts, they just have a really good advantage when it comes to slam dunks, as well as shots and passes from further distances.
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gunplagirl
12/15/18 10:11:39 PM
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FireJoeGirardi posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
Do you like steroids in sports?


Trans women actually have less testosterone than their cis counterparts so comparatively, the cis are the ones on steroids.


That wasnt what I was arguing but knowing you you completely misread the context and started to argue before you started to read.


Testosterone is a naturally occurring hormone that has plenty in common with most compounds we classify as steroids, at least when we are discussing the athletic kind.

Just a question but did you ever take organic chemistry, by chance?


That wasnt what I was arguing but knowing you you completely misread the context and started to argue before you started to read.


It was fairly obvious you brought up steroids to create the toe-in to testosterone. But fine, go ahead, expand upon the argument you claim you were originally going to present, rather than just some vague question like "do you like steroids in sports" which is not actually an argument in and of itself.
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Ryuko_Chan
12/15/18 10:13:41 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Ryuko_Chan posted...
But gunpla you think this particular person is ok to compete in womens league? I mean look at her Brolying the Muslim women

idk I think it has to be on a case by case basis

Some women are larger than other women, should we ban 7'+ basketball players? Actually, iirc it's statistically verified that athletes that tall can't even cross the court as fast as their 6'-6'6 foot tall counterparts, they just have a really good advantage when it comes to slam dunks, as well as shots and passes from further distances.

its not like her only advantage here is her height

bone structure, muscle mass, etc all play a role

also I dont really see what the speed of 7 foot tall basketball players has to do with this whatsoever
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Albel-Nox
12/15/18 10:14:44 PM
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CornBarn posted...
Looks like a beautiful sign of diversity and inclusion to me.

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rikasa
12/15/18 10:21:34 PM
#166:


This is why I'm a TERF
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gunplagirl
12/15/18 10:26:29 PM
#167:


Ryuko_Chan posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Ryuko_Chan posted...
But gunpla you think this particular person is ok to compete in womens league? I mean look at her Brolying the Muslim women

idk I think it has to be on a case by case basis

Some women are larger than other women, should we ban 7'+ basketball players? Actually, iirc it's statistically verified that athletes that tall can't even cross the court as fast as their 6'-6'6 foot tall counterparts, they just have a really good advantage when it comes to slam dunks, as well as shots and passes from further distances.

its not like her only advantage here is her height

bone structure, muscle mass, etc all play a role

also I dont really see what the speed of 7 foot tall basketball players has to do with this whatsoever

Bone structure

So did you know there's two specialized fields of anthropology that focus on bone structure. It's actually because of this that we can find a skeleton buried under a house and determine that it was an elderly Asian woman, and from that we can then go on and try figuring out who she was. There's structural differences between Asian women and north African women and even between North African women and South African (region, not the country) women.

Same with bone density. Plus when you factor in dietary aspects (poorer families will have worse bones than a person who had access to all their essential dietary needs growing up), genetics (see preceding paragraph) and general fitness (a person who exercises will generally have healthier bones than somebody who doesn't, it isn't just muscle atrophy that can result from inactivity)... Oh, and for what it's worth, trans women actually suffer from osteoporosis rates HIGHER than postmenopausal cis women, and starting at a younger age (keep in mind trans women take estrogen for life so it isn't as a result of the lack of hormones like what generally causes postmenopausal women to become afflicted with it).

And I brought up basketball players because height is an advantage in it TO A DEGREE. And hey, height is a direct result of bone structure and density, something I knew you'd bring up.
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gunplagirl
12/15/18 10:27:42 PM
#168:


FireJoeGirardi posted...
I brought up steroids because I was arguing that the dude was in favor of ridiculously unfair advantages in sports. Just like steroids would be ridiculously unfair, or the Patriots videotaping practices, or using corked bats, so would biological men playing in womens sports, as would advanced robots in mens sports.

But like I said. You completely ignore the context and start arguing before you actually read what the post is responding to.


Cis women have more testosterone, therefore they're the ones corking their bats - gimmickgirardi

Oh, great. Now I'm thinking of those Ghirardelli chocolates that are like $4 for a 6 ounce bar.
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gunplagirl
12/15/18 10:29:10 PM
#169:


Also, how could I ignore what you said when you didn't say anything?

Implications are a thing and you went the exact direction with it I said you would.
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Dragonblade01
12/15/18 10:33:42 PM
#170:


FireJoeGirardi posted...
Do you like steroids in sports?

I'm not the one you need to ask that question to. Look in the mirror for that. You're the one who's so bizarrely selective regarding "fairness."
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shnangyboos
12/15/18 11:09:13 PM
#171:


It's going to be pretty goddamn funny when there's enough of these super gifted, super atheletes to make a whole team, a team that will go on to dominate whatever sport it is, through sheer natural ability and talent, of course.
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CatataFish462
12/15/18 11:11:32 PM
#172:


The Muslim team has to wear borqas, LOL
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MaverickXeo
12/15/18 11:19:25 PM
#173:


gunplagirl posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
Do you like steroids in sports?


Trans women actually have less testosterone than their cis counterparts so comparatively, the cis are the ones on steroids.


Testosterone is only one difference.

https://list25.com/25-biological-differences-between-men-and-women/

Based on human evolution, men in general are physically stronger and more adept at 'physical' activities. This is not always the case, but when you have someone who is initially 'better' at something, they are more likely to succeed than someone who is not.
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Thaddeus_J_Pibb
12/16/18 5:18:43 AM
#175:


That girl's face in the very top right says it all
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SaithSayer
12/16/18 5:27:26 AM
#176:


Why argue about this? Eventually competition will be deemed offensive and there won't be any sports.
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 5:41:15 AM
#177:


FireJoeGirardi posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
I brought up steroids because I was arguing that the dude was in favor of ridiculously unfair advantages in sports. Just like steroids would be ridiculously unfair, or the Patriots videotaping practices, or using corked bats, so would biological men playing in womens sports, as would advanced robots in mens sports.

But like I said. You completely ignore the context and start arguing before you actually read what the post is responding to.


Cis women have more testosterone, therefore they're the ones corking their bats - gimmickgirardi

Oh, great. Now I'm thinking of those Ghirardelli chocolates that are like $4 for a 6 ounce bar.


Did you fucking read what I just said

At least try to make your gimmick subtle. Right now youre just admitting to everybody that you shouldnt be taken seriously


And I should care what an account that's okay being used in trans topics with double digit karma says because...?
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WindMouseHanpan
12/16/18 5:55:50 AM
#178:


This is completely unfair.
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SaithSayer
12/16/18 5:57:09 AM
#179:


Thaddeus_J_Pibb posted...
That girl's face in the very top right says it all
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 6:19:08 AM
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"did you even read" repeat ad nauseum

Impressive
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SaithSayer
12/16/18 6:19:41 AM
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Nobody takes that person seriously.
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 6:21:02 AM
#184:


FireJoeGirardi posted...
Except you keep talking about testosterone levels among cis-gendered people when that has literally zero to do with what I was talking about, and literally you would know that if you read my fucking post

You ignored the reason I brought it up, you didn't even read what I said and you'd know that if you read what I said
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 6:23:43 AM
#186:


Also it's like you have zero semblance of an understanding of how conversations work or how they evolve or how implications work.

Order of events leading to you bringing up steroids

Sportd and life aren't fair>how do you feel about steroid use (in the context of a topic about trans women)

It's impossible to remove any comments in this thread from that context barring you derailing the topic
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SaithSayer
12/16/18 6:24:45 AM
#187:


FireJoeGirardi posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
Except you keep talking about testosterone levels among cis-gendered people when that has literally zero to do with what I was talking about, and literally you would know that if you read my fucking post

You ignored the reason I brought it up, you didn't even read what I said and you'd know that if you read what I said


Dude I don't care why you fucking brought it up. The argument wasn't between me and you. I was arguing a totally separate thing with somebody and you came in and hijacked it based off the last post I made, completely ignoring all prior context and making a completely separate argument based off shit you made up in your head.

Welcome to that person's entire existence..
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 6:25:01 AM
#188:


FireJoeGirardi posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
Except you keep talking about testosterone levels among cis-gendered people when that has literally zero to do with what I was talking about, and literally you would know that if you read my fucking post

You ignored the reason I brought it up, you didn't even read what I said and you'd know that if you read what I said


Dude I don't care why you fucking brought it up. The argument wasn't between me and you. I was arguing a totally separate thing with somebody and you came in and hijacked it based off the last post I made, completely ignoring all prior context and making a completely separate argument based off shit you made up in your head.


Wow, somebody replying to you in an open forum, how incredible. You're now pulling some "you weren't even part of the conversation" paradigm out of your assistance when you opted to reply to me in the first place. Like, is this your first time on the internet?
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 6:25:41 AM
#189:


SaithSayer posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
Except you keep talking about testosterone levels among cis-gendered people when that has literally zero to do with what I was talking about, and literally you would know that if you read my fucking post

You ignored the reason I brought it up, you didn't even read what I said and you'd know that if you read what I said


Dude I don't care why you fucking brought it up. The argument wasn't between me and you. I was arguing a totally separate thing with somebody and you came in and hijacked it based off the last post I made, completely ignoring all prior context and making a completely separate argument based off shit you made up in your head.

Welcome to that person's entire existence..

Sigless user logic
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SaithSayer
12/16/18 6:31:44 AM
#192:


FireJoeGirardi posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
Except you keep talking about testosterone levels among cis-gendered people when that has literally zero to do with what I was talking about, and literally you would know that if you read my fucking post

You ignored the reason I brought it up, you didn't even read what I said and you'd know that if you read what I said


Dude I don't care why you fucking brought it up. The argument wasn't between me and you. I was arguing a totally separate thing with somebody and you came in and hijacked it based off the last post I made, completely ignoring all prior context and making a completely separate argument based off shit you made up in your head.


Wow, somebody replying to you in an open forum, how incredible. You're now pulling some "you weren't even part of the conversation" paradigm out of your assistance when you opted to reply to me in the first place. Like, is this your first time on the internet?


You can't just hijack an argument between two people debating whether the sky is blue, and then go after someone and argue that grass is green.


You would have a point but you're forgetting one major point. Smash isn't a fighting game!
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FursonaNonGrata
12/16/18 6:33:05 AM
#193:


There was a time when the blatantly transphobic posts ITT would have been deleted in minutes, but now it seems like its par for the course here to allow what is frankly incredibly hateful speech against already marginalized groups.
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 6:36:28 AM
#194:


I literally repeated what you said

You: post about how sports and life aren't fair
Your next post: post about LeBron dominating and sports aren't fair, don't get mad when cis women backlash at trans women competing
Somebody else: so you admit you don't care about sports being fair
You: bring up steroids

And no, I'm not the one derailing, you're the one who opted to keep repeating the same "you aren't reading" line. And yes, because you kept replying to me, that is literally you enaging with me and bringing me in to the conversation. Even if I wasn't part of it, this is a message board, do I really have to explain how internet posts work again. Neither of my previous posts were about testosterone, btw, they were about your own words and the context that you had established yourself. But do go on.
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 6:37:52 AM
#195:


FireJoeGirardi posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FireJoeGirardi posted...
Except you keep talking about testosterone levels among cis-gendered people when that has literally zero to do with what I was talking about, and literally you would know that if you read my fucking post

You ignored the reason I brought it up, you didn't even read what I said and you'd know that if you read what I said


Dude I don't care why you fucking brought it up. The argument wasn't between me and you. I was arguing a totally separate thing with somebody and you came in and hijacked it based off the last post I made, completely ignoring all prior context and making a completely separate argument based off shit you made up in your head.


Wow, somebody replying to you in an open forum, how incredible. You're now pulling some "you weren't even part of the conversation" paradigm out of your assistance when you opted to reply to me in the first place. Like, is this your first time on the internet?


You can't just hijack an argument between two people debating whether the sky is blue, and then go after someone and argue that grass is green.

That's essentially what you're fucking doing. You are literally shouting at a wall because no one was ever disputing or arguing against the shit you're saying. You've been repeatedly told that you're arguing out of context with something that was never said. Congrats, you're wasting your time arguing something you're not even sure of is disagreed upon with the person you're arguing with.


Okay. Let's start from the beginning, you were complaining about life not being fair and trans people competing not being fair then brought up steroids. Had I never intervened, what was your next post?
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 6:39:41 AM
#196:


That is to say, what mighty wisdom shall thou impart o might arbiter of what's fair and unfair and what unfair things are too unfair
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Esrac
12/16/18 7:07:20 AM
#197:


toyota posted...
https://i.redd.it/mbj28owutu221.jpg

Straight up looking like broly out there against cis-women

How long before the female sporting world catches on that if they seriously want to win that they should be recruiting mtf transgenders to the team?


I thought you were exaggerating, but it does look like Broly fighting a bunch of Gohans.
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SaithSayer
12/16/18 7:20:16 AM
#198:


LOL says "go on" at the end of a post and then makes a triple post.
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 7:53:41 AM
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FireJoeGirardi posted...
Dude. I dont want to debate testosterone levels and shit with you. So long as you think thats the fucking point / argument Im making here, the more Im going to kindly tell you to shut the fuck up and argue your shit with someone else.

The argument didnt involve you, and you bringing up irrelevant shit to shout at the clouds is serving no purpose other than to solidify yourself as a gimmick and/or somebody who likes to selectively quote shit out of context and argue for the sake of arguing. Take your fucking pick.

Holy fuck, m8, the only one bringing it up at this point is you
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