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ColdOne666 12/20/18 6:00:40 PM #301: |
HiddenLurker posted...
SaithSayer posted...What I wanna know is.. sktgamer_13dude posted... DoubleDare posted...The occasion, Scardina told the bakerys employees, was to celebrate her birthday, as well as the seventh anniversary of the day she had come out as transgender. Its freedom of religion. Lets be honest she never wanted a cake. --- FFX is the best game of all time. The only good Nintendo franchises are Pokemon and Fire Emblem. Comics are for kids. https://imgur.com/LJ3WSyB Reylo Ship ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ColdOne666 12/20/18 6:03:25 PM #302: |
dave_is_slick posted...
HenryAllbright posted...Bigotry isn't discrimination. Why are you a angry bigot with anger issues? --- FFX is the best game of all time. The only good Nintendo franchises are Pokemon and Fire Emblem. Comics are for kids. https://imgur.com/LJ3WSyB Reylo Ship ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nick_Saban 12/20/18 6:12:27 PM #303: |
OctilIery posted...
Nick_Saban posted...The political left is basically just trying to brand everything they disagree with as some sort of horrible atrocity. The endgame isn't equality, it's the inability to be conservative without repercussions. What conservative ideals do you support? To me, it seems like the left want to assume the right has the worst possible intentions with everything at all times. Want stronger border control? racist Want Israel to exist? islamaphobic Dont want to pay for abortions? misogynist Dont think the government should force people to work for others? homophobic Dont like increased taxes? somehow racist Dont support pseudo socialism? all of the above Apparently supporting free speech and gun rights is a conglomeration of everything bad nowadays for some reason. What conservative ideals(aside from the like 90% of stuff they agree with liberals on), in your opinion, is an ideal that you support? --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nick_Saban 12/20/18 6:16:36 PM #304: |
Funkydog posted...
Nick_Saban posted...The political left is basically just trying to brand everything they disagree with as some sort of horrible atrocity. The endgame isn't equality, it's the inability to be conservative without repercussions. You say that but you're really not treating the Christian in this case fairly. You want the people that agree with your politics to be treated fairly. The conservatives are pretty much doing the same thing. --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 12/20/18 6:18:17 PM #305: |
ColdOne666 posted...
HiddenLurker posted...SaithSayer posted...What I wanna know is.. Freedom of religion doesnt trump protected classes. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 12/20/18 6:26:54 PM #306: |
Nick_Saban posted...
You say that but you're really not treating the Christian in this case fairly Yes we are. We're treating him like any other business owner - expecting the same service he would provide anyone else and responding to his illegal discrimination with the appropriate legal action. Unfortunately, he isn't interested in treating his customers fairly. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nick_Saban 12/20/18 6:30:34 PM #307: |
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Nick_Saban posted...You say that but you're really not treating the Christian in this case fairly Same could be said for the owners of the restaurant that denied service to Sarah Sanders, yet they're treated like heroes by the left. --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 12/20/18 6:33:50 PM #308: |
gunplagirl posted...
Sad_Face posted...Vertania posted...Chicken posted...Seems like they went to this guy on purpose to try to start shit again. It's not illegal. The supreme Court said so ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 12/20/18 6:34:37 PM #309: |
Zikten posted...
gunplagirl posted...Sad_Face posted...Vertania posted...Chicken posted...Seems like they went to this guy on purpose to try to start shit again. Please cite the specific ruling --- Please ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 12/20/18 6:38:15 PM #310: |
PleaseClap posted...
Zikten posted...gunplagirl posted...Sad_Face posted...Vertania posted...Chicken posted...Seems like they went to this guy on purpose to try to start shit again. It's called the news. He won his case ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 12/20/18 6:40:59 PM #311: |
Zikten posted...
It's called the news. He won his case *sigh* Why do you always talk about topics that you don't know anything about? The ruling of his case was not that it was legal for him to discriminate. Please, just look up the basic facts of the story before you post. --- Please ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KirbyMagicWand 12/20/18 6:44:14 PM #312: |
PleaseClap posted...
Zikten posted...It's called the news. He won his case --- Black 2 FC: 3654-8394-0937 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 12/20/18 6:46:06 PM #313: |
PleaseClap posted...
Zikten posted...It's called the news. He won his case Its Zikten. Thats expecting too much. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KirbyMagicWand 12/20/18 6:46:38 PM #314: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
PleaseClap posted...Zikten posted...It's called the news. He won his case ^This. The guy wasnt exactly gifted with high intelligence :/ --- Black 2 FC: 3654-8394-0937 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 12/20/18 6:51:04 PM #315: |
He is clearly breaking the law. If he doesn't bake cakes with two women on top of it .. that is one thing. People can't say he has to make that. Just for them. However now the deal is a cake that is just two different colors. This is something that he seemingly makes. Thus he should be making for the people .
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TrevorBlack79 12/20/18 7:42:53 PM #316: |
Nick_Saban posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...Nick_Saban posted...You say that but you're really not treating the Christian in this case fairly What does that have to do with the fact that this baker was treated fairly, despite your claims to the contrary? --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/20/18 8:16:50 PM #317: |
In the days of high tolerance, people are more aggressively going after the few groups you can get by with hassling.
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Nick_Saban 12/20/18 8:20:42 PM #318: |
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Nick_Saban posted...TrevorBlack79 posted...Nick_Saban posted...You say that but you're really not treating the Christian in this case fairly Because we have a case where one food provider denied service to people you like and the political left treated him like a pariah and another one where a food provider denied service to people you dont like and the political left treated him like hero. It's the exact same action but your response is dependent on the on the political leanings of the involved parties. You're not looking at this objectively. The left likes to assign heinous intent to every action of every person who disagrees with them on a political issue. The political right has its flaws as well, but I don't see this as one of them and at the least it's not as widespread as it is in the left. --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SchoolForAnts 12/20/18 8:31:53 PM #319: |
OctilIery posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...The cake bigot will do his thing. Great point ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 12/20/18 8:39:03 PM #320: |
Liberals defend mega tech corporate overlords censoring peoples speech but get all up in arms over an independent baker.
When the say modern liberalism is a mental illness it makes you *thiking emoji* --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 12/20/18 9:40:06 PM #321: |
Nick_Saban posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...Nick_Saban posted...TrevorBlack79 posted...Nick_Saban posted...You say that but you're really not treating the Christian in this case fairly Again, what does that have to do with the fact that this baker was treated fairly, despite your claims to the contrary? --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 12/20/18 9:41:21 PM #322: |
Politics is not a protected class.
You can choose to believe in something, but not what your skin colour, gender, sexuality etc is. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nick_Saban 12/20/18 10:30:37 PM #323: |
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Nick_Saban posted...TrevorBlack79 posted...Nick_Saban posted...TrevorBlack79 posted...Nick_Saban posted...You say that but you're really not treating the Christian in this case fairly I spelled it out pretty clear for you. If you're not going to acknowledge it, it's on you. You have a pretty clear bias on this subject. You'll never see that he has been treated unfairly because you think he is the devil and deserves everything bad that has happened and will happen to him and thus it's fair treatment. --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nick_Saban 12/20/18 10:45:58 PM #324: |
LightningAce11 posted...
Politics is not a protected class. The problem ins when the political left pushes to basically define everyone that supports their politics as a protected class and everyone who opposes their politics as evil racist homophobic sexist bigots. It's not a straightforward issue like you suggest. The left is using so called protected classes as a shield to force their agenda on everybody. There is not a single major issue the right supports where the left doesn't falsely assign some sort of anti protected class agenda to it. --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marc55 12/20/18 11:16:30 PM #325: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
DoubleDare posted...A transexual lawyer is doing, an obvious setup. isnt this the one who refused to make a custom cake but offered the ones he had on sale ? --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KILBOTz 12/20/18 11:41:58 PM #326: |
marc55 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...DoubleDare posted...A transexual lawyer is doing, an obvious setup. yes. that wasn't pertinent in the supreme court ruling but that was a fact of the case. i'm of the opinion that a bakery needs to be willing to sell the stuff on its shelves to whoever walks through the door but shouldn't be required to make a special creation. i hope they win this case with a straight forward answer from the supreme court. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jaghave 12/20/18 11:44:25 PM #327: |
Baker should win again, f these people who purposely harass people who dont conform with their standards
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Virtue777 12/21/18 12:55:09 AM #328: |
gunplagirl posted...
Sad_Face posted...Vertania posted...Chicken posted...Seems like they went to this guy on purpose to try to start shit again. Truth. --- Coolest guy/gal on the planet: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/user.php?=2426382 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 12/21/18 2:37:56 AM #329: |
Nick_Saban posted...
I spelled it out pretty clear for you. If you're not going to acknowledge it, it's on you. No you didn't. Like, that's the whole reason I keep asking - you keep bringing up an unrelated incident that has nothing to do with the subject being discussed. It's a pretty obvious attempt at deflection so you don't have to acknowledge that he's being treated fairly, as I originally explained to you. Nick_Saban posted... You have a pretty clear bias on this subject. Elaborate. Biased in what way? What exactly have I said that demonstrates a bias? Nick_Saban posted... You'll never see that he has been treated unfairly Because he hasn't, as I already detailed for you and you didn't even try to dispute. Being expected to obey the same laws as everyone else is not unfair treatment, and the fact that you believe it is demonstrates your bias on the subject. Nick_Saban posted... because you think he is the devil and deserves everything bad that has happened and will happen to him "Everything bad" that has happened to him has been exclusively a product of his own choices and actions. I don't think he's some devil, and I don't think he "deserves" ruin, but it's 100% his own making. I won't lose sleep over someone who chooses to dive in the shallow end. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nick_Saban 12/21/18 6:54:09 AM #330: |
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Nick_Saban posted...I spelled it out pretty clear for you. If you're not going to acknowledge it, it's on you. I bring up something else to show you why he's being treated unfairly. Its not a deflection. Believe it or not, not everything said in opposition to your viewpoint is some attempt to undermine you. He's not being treated fairly because other people have done the same thing and faced no legal action and are treated like a hero by the same people who want to bury this guy. Based on your signature. You seem to want to engage in political discussion over LGBT issues and I suspect that quote is in your signature because you think what the guy said was dumb and you want to show it off. That is your bias, you're not going to look at something objectively when the one of the parties involved is LBGT. We have freedom of religion laws too. It's not fair to religious people to say you have to sacrifice your morality if you want to own a business because some other people dont want their feelings hurt. But if you discriminate against someone we haven't arbitrarily assigned some value to, that's okay though. --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 12/21/18 8:47:39 AM #331: |
Nick_Saban posted...
I bring up something else to show you why he's being treated unfairly. Explain how being expected to obey the same laws as everyone else is unfair. Other situations with other people are irrelevant. If you can't argue how this is unfair without bringing up unrelated events then you have no argument. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/21/18 8:49:40 AM #332: |
Chicken posted...
If he baked the cake and thenput like razor blades in it or some shit then theyd have a case against him. Seems like they went to this guy on purpose to try to start shit again. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 12/21/18 10:09:17 AM #333: |
Jaghave posted...
Baker should win again, f these people who purposely harass people who dont conform with their standards He didn't win the first time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/21/18 11:36:21 AM #334: |
OctilIery posted...
Jaghave posted...Baker should win again, f these people who purposely harass people who dont conform with their standards He didn't say he did he said he should --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 12/21/18 1:21:56 PM #335: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
OctilIery posted...Jaghave posted...Baker should win again, f these people who purposely harass people who dont conform with their standards "Should win again" implies he won before so therefore what you just said makes no sense, as usual. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoubleDare 12/21/18 1:22:16 PM #336: |
I'm just happy when its my birthday I don't have to rub my sexuality or gender in everyone's face.
Hell I rarely go to the bakery! --- On Your Mark...Get Set........GO!!!!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 12/21/18 3:00:29 PM #337: |
Nick_Saban posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...Nick_Saban posted...TrevorBlack79 posted...Nick_Saban posted...You say that but you're really not treating the Christian in this case fairly Political party isnt a protected clsss. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 12/21/18 3:04:05 PM #338: |
@Nick_Saban posted...
LightningAce11 posted...Politics is not a protected class. Its like protected classes are things that people used to discriminate against all the time. Race, sex, etc. Its like youre trying to forget all of history --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthGravid 12/21/18 3:06:20 PM #339: |
The Supreme Court ruled in June that the Colorado commission showed anti-religious bias when it sanctioned Phillips for refusing to make the cake, voting 7-2 that it violated Phillips' First Amendment rights. Seems like this was already resolved. But let's do it all over again because there isn't anything more important going on in the world. --- 'Hey look at me, I'm Mr. So-And-So Dick! I've got such-and-such for a penis.'" - Werner Herzog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 12/21/18 3:14:20 PM #340: |
DarthGravid posted...
The Supreme Court ruled in June that the Colorado commission showed anti-religious bias when it sanctioned Phillips for refusing to make the cake, voting 7-2 that it violated Phillips' First Amendment rights. This was not resolved already. You misunderstand the ruling and the scope of its impact. If only you had read literally the very next paragraph after the one you quoted... --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 12/21/18 3:15:30 PM #341: |
DarthGravid posted...
The Supreme Court ruled in June that the Colorado commission showed anti-religious bias when it sanctioned Phillips for refusing to make the cake, voting 7-2 that it violated Phillips' First Amendment rights. Why doesnt anyone actually read the ruling in question, and the precedent that it does and doesnt set --- Please ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 12/21/18 3:20:43 PM #342: |
Vertania posted...
Chicken posted...Seems like they went to this guy on purpose to try to start shit again. Shameful --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/21/18 3:23:37 PM #343: |
It's weird that baking is a business that can lead to controversy.
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sktgamer_13dude 12/21/18 3:25:44 PM #344: |
DarthGravid posted...
The Supreme Court ruled in June that the Colorado commission showed anti-religious bias when it sanctioned Phillips for refusing to make the cake, voting 7-2 that it violated Phillips' First Amendment rights. All that says is that the state fucked up their case. That doesnt say whether or not he himself was in the wrong. Because they didnt make that kind of ruling. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paragon21XX 12/21/18 3:26:10 PM #345: |
DarthGravid posted...
The Supreme Court ruled in June that the Colorado commission showed anti-religious bias when it sanctioned Phillips for refusing to make the cake, voting 7-2 that it violated Phillips' First Amendment rights. Wait. I thought the SCOTUS only ruled that they violated his right to a fair and neutral hearing as members of the commission openly displayed bigotry and hostility to religion. Whether or not his 1st Amendment rights take priority over Colorado's civil rights law in regards to custom orders has yet to be answered. --- Hmm... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KillerKhan420 12/21/18 3:29:43 PM #346: |
First it was gay cake, and now it's transexual cake. What's next? Here's an idea.
DONT GO TO BAKERIES AND TRY TO START LAWSUITS. ASKING FOR EXPLICIT CAKE IS BOUND TO GET TURNED DOWN. Satan has truly taken over this world --- "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 12/21/18 3:35:29 PM #347: |
KillerKhan420 posted...
Satan has truly taken over this world Are we really at the the lgbt community are agents of satan part of the topic now? --- Please ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoubleDare 12/21/18 3:50:40 PM #348: |
What if a gay baker refused to make a religous cake? (But still offered a premade one)
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sktgamer_13dude 12/21/18 3:51:03 PM #349: |
KillerKhan420 posted...
First it was gay cake, and now it's transexual cake. What's next? Here's an idea. Maybe people should stop discriminating others because of sexual orientation. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 12/21/18 3:53:44 PM #350: |
DoubleDare posted...
What if a gay baker refused to make a religous cake? (But still offered a premade one) Gay baker can refuse to make a religious cake --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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