Current Events > Colorado bakers are back in court, but this time over a transgender cake order.

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DarkTransient 12/21/18 3:58:10 PM #351:	PiOverlord posted... Dyinglegacy posted... LightningAce11 posted... Just bake the damn cake and leave your re religious beliefs at home. That's not the way religious belief works. If you're religious and devout, it is the ONLY thing that matters to you. Speaking of that, tho, the bible isn't equipped to understand transgender. I'm not sure if it's ever mentioned at all, so maybe his bigotry is just his bigotry, and does not have much to do with religious belief. The Bible does mention that your body is God's gift and the way you were made is how He intended. Maybe God made that person to be homosexual and/or transgender. --- https://imgtc.com/i/0mboxsZ.png <-- Tiamat is best babe, if you disagree you're objectively wrong. https://tinyurl.com/dtlamulana2 <-- La-Mulana 2 LP <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:914510326] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightningAce11 posted...</cite> <quote>Just bake the damn cake and leave your re religious beliefs at home.</quote> That's not the way religious belief works. If you're religious and devout, it is the ONLY thing that matters to you. Speaking of that, tho, the bible isn't equipped to understand transgender. I'm not sure if it's ever mentioned at all, so maybe his bigotry is just his bigotry, and does not have much to do with religious belief.</quote> The Bible does mention that your body is God's gift and the way you were made is how He intended.</quote> Maybe God made that person to be homosexual and/or transgender.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 12/21/18 4:05:52 PM #352:	I'll be honest, I can sort of see both sides of the issue being legitimate. This is a private baker making personalized cakes. You can't go to a baker and claim white nationalism and get a cake with white nationalist propaganda then complain about discrimination when someone doesn't make the cake for you. I think people should just leave the guy alone, even if he's a bigot. This isn't enough evidence to prove that for him it's not just against his religion to make cakes specifically for people that want their way. What would you say if a satanist went in and demanded him make a satanic cake of the devil prodding a beat down Jesus with a pitchfork and claim religious discrimination? I just don't think people are being fair because of feelings. He isn't a big business, just go somewhere else. --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:914510655] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>I'll be honest, I can sort of see both sides of the issue being legitimate. This is a private baker making personalized cakes. You can't go to a baker and claim white nationalism and get a cake with white nationalist propaganda then complain about discrimination when someone doesn't make the cake for you. I think people should just leave the guy alone, even if he's a bigot. This isn't enough evidence to prove that for him it's not just against his religion to make cakes specifically for people that want their way. What would you say if a satanist went in and demanded him make a satanic cake of the devil prodding a beat down Jesus with a pitchfork and claim religious discrimination? I just don't think people are being fair because of feelings. He isn't a big business, just go somewhere else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 12/21/18 4:07:53 PM #353:	catboy0_0 posted... This is a private baker If you run a business open to the public, your services are not "private." --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:914510756] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>This is a private baker </quote> If you run a business open to the public, your services are not "private."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 12/21/18 4:08:47 PM #354:	TrevorBlack79 posted... catboy0_0 posted... This is a private baker If you run a business open to the public, your services are not "private." you're conveniently ignoring the rest of my post to focus on one small aspect of the dilemma --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:914510802] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>This is a private baker </quote> If you run a business open to the public, your services are not "private."</quote> you're conveniently ignoring the rest of my post to focus on one small aspect of the dilemma</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 12/21/18 4:09:58 PM #355:	catboy0_0 posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... catboy0_0 posted... This is a private baker If you run a business open to the public, your services are not "private." you're conveniently ignoring the rest of my post to focus on one small aspect of the dilemma This "one small dilemma" renders the rest of your post completely irrelevant. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:914510846] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>This is a private baker </quote> If you run a business open to the public, your services are not "private."</quote> you're conveniently ignoring the rest of my post to focus on one small aspect of the dilemma</quote> This "one small dilemma" renders the rest of your post completely irrelevant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 12/21/18 4:11:01 PM #356:	TrevorBlack79 posted... catboy0_0 posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... catboy0_0 posted... This is a private baker If you run a business open to the public, your services are not "private." you're conveniently ignoring the rest of my post to focus on one small aspect of the dilemma This "one small dilemma" renders the rest of your post completely irrelevant. so you're just going to ignore it K --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:914510901] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>This is a private baker </quote> If you run a business open to the public, your services are not "private."</quote> you're conveniently ignoring the rest of my post to focus on one small aspect of the dilemma</quote> This "one small dilemma" renders the rest of your post completely irrelevant.</quote> so you're just going to ignore it K</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 12/21/18 4:11:08 PM #357:	catboy0_0 posted... I'll be honest, I can sort of see both sides of the issue being legitimate. This is a private baker making personalized cakes. You can't go to a baker and claim white nationalism and get a cake with white nationalist propaganda then complain about discrimination when someone doesn't make the cake for you. I think people should just leave the guy alone, even if he's a bigot. This isn't enough evidence to prove that for him it's not just against his religion to make cakes specifically for people that want their way. What would you say if a satanist went in and demanded him make a satanic cake of the devil prodding a beat down Jesus with a pitchfork and claim religious discrimination? I just don't think people are being fair because of feelings. He isn't a big business, just go somewhere else. Btw he offered them other items from the articles I read before. It is not like he refused service to them. He just wouldn't bake a specific cake he felt made a statement. But haters gonna hate and deny his freedom of thought --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:914510908] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>I'll be honest, I can sort of see both sides of the issue being legitimate. This is a private baker making personalized cakes. You can't go to a baker and claim white nationalism and get a cake with white nationalist propaganda then complain about discrimination when someone doesn't make the cake for you. I think people should just leave the guy alone, even if he's a bigot. This isn't enough evidence to prove that for him it's not just against his religion to make cakes specifically for people that want their way. What would you say if a satanist went in and demanded him make a satanic cake of the devil prodding a beat down Jesus with a pitchfork and claim religious discrimination? I just don't think people are being fair because of feelings. He isn't a big business, just go somewhere else.</quote> Btw he offered them other items from the articles I read before. It is not like he refused service to them. He just wouldn't bake a specific cake he felt made a statement. But haters gonna hate and deny his freedom of thought</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 12/21/18 4:13:29 PM #359:	catboy0_0 posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... catboy0_0 posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... catboy0_0 posted... This is a private baker If you run a business open to the public, your services are not "private." you're conveniently ignoring the rest of my post to focus on one small aspect of the dilemma This "one small dilemma" renders the rest of your post completely irrelevant. so you're just going to ignore it K No, I read it and it is irrelevant when weighed against the law. I'm sorry you think you made some relevant point in that, but you didn't. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:914511007] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>This is a private baker </quote> If you run a business open to the public, your services are not "private."</quote> you're conveniently ignoring the rest of my post to focus on one small aspect of the dilemma</quote> This "one small dilemma" renders the rest of your post completely irrelevant.</quote> so you're just going to ignore it K</quote> No, I read it and it is irrelevant when weighed against the law. I'm sorry you think you made some relevant point in that, but you didn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 12/21/18 4:15:18 PM #360:	well your argument is irrelevant to me so I think I'll ignore you as well --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:914511090] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>well your argument is irrelevant to me so I think I'll ignore you as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 12/21/18 4:15:51 PM #361:	Yes, our interaction already determined that reality is irrelevant to you. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:914511111] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>Yes, our interaction already determined that reality is irrelevant to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 12/21/18 4:16:20 PM #362:	indeed. we can stop wasting each other's time then --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:914511132] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>indeed. we can stop wasting each other's time then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 12/21/18 4:17:20 PM #363:	Question: Why do you think this particular baker should be exempt from the same laws that everyone else must abide by? --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:914511187] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>Question: Why do you think this particular baker should be exempt from the same laws that everyone else must abide by?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 12/21/18 4:29:28 PM #364:	darkphoenix181 posted... catboy0_0 posted... I'll be honest, I can sort of see both sides of the issue being legitimate. This is a private baker making personalized cakes. You can't go to a baker and claim white nationalism and get a cake with white nationalist propaganda then complain about discrimination when someone doesn't make the cake for you. I think people should just leave the guy alone, even if he's a bigot. This isn't enough evidence to prove that for him it's not just against his religion to make cakes specifically for people that want their way. What would you say if a satanist went in and demanded him make a satanic cake of the devil prodding a beat down Jesus with a pitchfork and claim religious discrimination? I just don't think people are being fair because of feelings. He isn't a big business, just go somewhere else. Btw he offered them other items from the articles I read before. It is not like he refused service to them. He just wouldn't bake a specific cake he felt made a statement. But haters gonna hate and deny his freedom of thought And in this second case, he was perfectly fine with baking the cake until he learned the person was trans. Thats discrimination. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:914511747] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>I'll be honest, I can sort of see both sides of the issue being legitimate. This is a private baker making personalized cakes. You can't go to a baker and claim white nationalism and get a cake with white nationalist propaganda then complain about discrimination when someone doesn't make the cake for you. I think people should just leave the guy alone, even if he's a bigot. This isn't enough evidence to prove that for him it's not just against his religion to make cakes specifically for people that want their way. What would you say if a satanist went in and demanded him make a satanic cake of the devil prodding a beat down Jesus with a pitchfork and claim religious discrimination? I just don't think people are being fair because of feelings. He isn't a big business, just go somewhere else.</quote> Btw he offered them other items from the articles I read before. It is not like he refused service to them. He just wouldn't bake a specific cake he felt made a statement. But haters gonna hate and deny his freedom of thought</quote> And in this second case, he was perfectly fine with baking the cake until he learned the person was trans. Thats discrimination.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaithSayer 12/21/18 5:13:19 PM #365:	Everyone in this thread is ignoring the fact that cake sucks and pie is infinitely better. <cite>SaithSayer posted [p:914513817] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>Everyone in this thread is ignoring the fact that cake sucks and pie is infinitely better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 12/21/18 5:42:18 PM #366:	SaithSayer posted... Everyone in this thread is ignoring the fact that cake sucks and pie is infinitely better. Both suck. Can we just get ice cream? --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 21; PiO ATTN: 5 RotM wins 1, https://i.imgtc.com/Ejs0WrG.jpg <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:914515117] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>SaithSayer posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone in this thread is ignoring the fact that cake sucks and pie is infinitely better.</quote> Both suck. Can we just get ice cream?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleDare 12/21/18 6:03:08 PM #367:	He should've just said he don't do pink inside, since that is vulgar. --- On Your Mark...Get Set........GO!!!!!! <cite>DoubleDare posted [p:914516081] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>He should've just said he don't do pink inside, since that is vulgar.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthGravid 12/21/18 6:16:06 PM #368:	TrevorBlack79 posted... DarthGravid posted... The Supreme Court ruled in June that the Colorado commission showed anti-religious bias when it sanctioned Phillips for refusing to make the cake, voting 7-2 that it violated Phillips' First Amendment rights. Seems like this was already resolved. But let's do it all over again because there isn't anything more important going on in the world. This was not resolved already. You misunderstand the ruling and the scope of its impact. If only you had read literally the very next paragraph after the one you quoted... --- 'Hey look at me, I'm Mr. So-And-So Dick! I've got such-and-such for a penis.'" - Werner Herzog <cite>DarthGravid posted [p:914516675] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote><quote>The Supreme Court ruled in June that the Colorado commission showed anti-religious bias when it sanctioned Phillips for refusing to make the cake, voting 7-2 that it violated Phillips' First Amendment rights.</quote> Seems like this was already resolved. But let's do it all over again because there isn't anything more important going on in the world.</quote> This was not resolved already. You misunderstand the ruling and the scope of its impact. If only you had read literally the very next paragraph after the one you quoted...</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaithSayer 12/21/18 7:03:19 PM #369:	PiOverlord posted... SaithSayer posted... Everyone in this thread is ignoring the fact that cake sucks and pie is infinitely better. Both suck. Can we just get ice cream? Pie is great. They call cheesecake a cake just to be nice. <cite>SaithSayer posted [p:914518861] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SaithSayer posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone in this thread is ignoring the fact that cake sucks and pie is infinitely better.</quote> Both suck. Can we just get ice cream?</quote> Pie is great. They call cheesecake a cake just to be nice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 12/21/18 11:15:29 PM #370:	SaithSayer posted... PiOverlord posted... SaithSayer posted... Everyone in this thread is ignoring the fact that cake sucks and pie is infinitely better. Both suck. Can we just get ice cream? Pie is great. They call cheesecake a cake just to be nice. I hate cheesecake too. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 21; PiO ATTN: 5 RotM wins 1, https://i.imgtc.com/Ejs0WrG.jpg <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:914529765] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>SaithSayer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SaithSayer posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone in this thread is ignoring the fact that cake sucks and pie is infinitely better.</quote> Both suck. Can we just get ice cream?</quote> Pie is great. They call cheesecake a cake just to be nice.</quote> I hate cheesecake too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 12/22/18 1:31:38 AM #371:	cheesecake may be shit tier but sjws are lower than shit tier --- https://i.imgtc.com/PruZV73.png https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn <cite>ModLogic posted [p:914534333] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>cheesecake may be shit tier but sjws are lower than shit tier</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 12/22/18 1:38:46 AM #372:	Imagine not liking cheesecake. What the fuck? --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:914534554] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>Imagine not liking cheesecake. What the fuck?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 12/22/18 8:12:32 AM #373:	TrevorBlack79 posted... Imagine not liking cheesecake. What the fuck? --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:914542168] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine not liking cheesecake. What the fuck?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 12/22/18 9:12:59 AM #374:	Funkydog posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Imagine not liking cheesecake. What the fuck? I don't have to imagine. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 21; PiO ATTN: 5 RotM wins 1, https://i.imgtc.com/Ejs0WrG.jpg <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:914543562] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine not liking cheesecake. What the fuck?</quote></quote> I don't have to imagine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 12/22/18 9:14:16 AM #375:	PiOverlord posted... Funkydog posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Imagine not liking cheesecake. What the fuck? I don't have to imagine. Hopefully you are in therapy for whatever grievous crime was done to you to make you not like cheesecake. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:914543593] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine not liking cheesecake. What the fuck?</quote></quote> I don't have to imagine.</quote> Hopefully you are in therapy for whatever grievous crime was done to you to make you not like cheesecake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nick_Saban 12/23/18 12:03:26 AM #376:	sktgamer_13dude posted... Nick_Saban posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Nick_Saban posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Nick_Saban posted... You say that but you're really not treating the Christian in this case fairly Yes we are. We're treating him like any other business owner - expecting the same service he would provide anyone else and responding to his illegal discrimination with the appropriate legal action. Unfortunately, he isn't interested in treating his customers fairly. Same could be said for the owners of the restaurant that denied service to Sarah Sanders, yet they're treated like heroes by the left. What does that have to do with the fact that this baker was treated fairly, despite your claims to the contrary? Because we have a case where one food provider denied service to people you like and the political left treated him like a pariah and another one where a food provider denied service to people you dont like and the political left treated him like hero. It's the exact same action but your response is dependent on the on the political leanings of the involved parties. You're not looking at this objectively. The left likes to assign heinous intent to every action of every person who disagrees with them on a political issue. The political right has its flaws as well, but I don't see this as one of them and at the least it's not as widespread as it is in the left. Political party isnt a protected clsss. Sarah Sanders is a woman, which I believe is a protected class. Are you saying it's okay to discriminate against people even if they're in protected classes as long as the reason for the discrimination isn't related to their protected status? Do you understand that sounds insane to most people? --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite <cite>Nick_Saban posted [p:914577973] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>You say that but you're really not treating the Christian in this case fairly</quote> Yes we are. We're treating him like any other business owner - expecting the same service he would provide anyone else and responding to his illegal discrimination with the appropriate legal action. Unfortunately, he isn't interested in treating his customers fairly.</quote> Same could be said for the owners of the restaurant that denied service to Sarah Sanders, yet they're treated like heroes by the left.</quote> What does that have to do with the fact that this baker was treated fairly, despite your claims to the contrary?</quote> Because we have a case where one food provider denied service to people you like and the political left treated him like a pariah and another one where a food provider denied service to people you dont like and the political left treated him like hero. It's the exact same action but your response is dependent on the on the political leanings of the involved parties. You're not looking at this objectively. The left likes to assign heinous intent to every action of every person who disagrees with them on a political issue. The political right has its flaws as well, but I don't see this as one of them and at the least it's not as widespread as it is in the left.</quote> Political party isnt a protected clsss.</quote> Sarah Sanders is a woman, which I believe is a protected class. Are you saying it's okay to discriminate against people even if they're in protected classes as long as the reason for the discrimination isn't related to their protected status? Do you understand that sounds insane to most people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nick_Saban 12/23/18 12:06:09 AM #377:	sktgamer_13dude posted... @Nick_Saban posted... LightningAce11 posted... Politics is not a protected class. You can choose to believe in something, but not what your skin colour, gender, sexuality etc is. The problem ins when the political left pushes to basically define everyone that supports their politics as a protected class and everyone who opposes their politics as evil racist homophobic sexist bigots. It's not a straightforward issue like you suggest. The left is using so called protected classes as a shield to force their agenda on everybody. There is not a single major issue the right supports where the left doesn't falsely assign some sort of anti protected class agenda to it. Its like protected classes are things that people used to discriminate against all the time. Race, sex, etc. Its like youre trying to forget all of history No it's not like that at all. That just what you say because in your head every thing is back and white and there are no shades of gray. --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite <cite>Nick_Saban posted [p:914578063] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightningAce11 posted...</cite> <quote>Politics is not a protected class. You can choose to believe in something, but not what your skin colour, gender, sexuality etc is.</quote> The problem ins when the political left pushes to basically define everyone that supports their politics as a protected class and everyone who opposes their politics as evil racist homophobic sexist bigots. It's not a straightforward issue like you suggest. The left is using so called protected classes as a shield to force their agenda on everybody. There is not a single major issue the right supports where the left doesn't falsely assign some sort of anti protected class agenda to it.</quote> Its like protected classes are things that people used to discriminate against all the time. Race, sex, etc. Its like youre trying to forget all of history</quote> No it's not like that at all. That just what you say because in your head every thing is back and white and there are no shades of gray.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 12/23/18 12:10:38 AM #378:	Nick_Saban posted... Sarah Sanders is a woman, which I believe is a protected class. Are you saying it's okay to discriminate against people even if they're in protected classes as long as the reason for the discrimination isn't related to their protected status? Businesses can refuse service for any reason as long as they're not discriminating against protected classes, so...the answer to your question is yes. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist <cite>GATTJT posted [p:914578232] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Sarah Sanders is a woman, which I believe is a protected class. Are you saying it's okay to discriminate against people even if they're in protected classes as long as the reason for the discrimination isn't related to their protected status?</quote> Businesses can refuse service for any reason as long as they're not discriminating against protected classes, so...the answer to your question is yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nick_Saban 12/23/18 12:18:05 AM #379:	TrevorBlack79 posted... Nick_Saban posted... I bring up something else to show you why he's being treated unfairly. Explain how being expected to obey the same laws as everyone else is unfair. Other situations with other people are irrelevant. If you can't argue how this is unfair without bringing up unrelated events then you have no argument. Because laws aren't inherently fair. History is littered with unfair laws. You'd have to be the ultimate statist to say something like that. I guarantee you I could find several laws that exist right now that you think aren't fair but you like this one because it's application exclusively benefits your political ideology. And stop with this "other situations are irrelevant". Context matters, you don't want to admit it because you're in a spot where it's either you have to exclude context or admit you're wrong. I'm sorry but if you ask me to show you how someone is being treated unfairly, it's fair game for me to bring up other situations. Right now, this is basically what you're doing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx32b5igLwA" data-time=" --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite <cite>Nick_Saban posted [p:914578512] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>I bring up something else to show you why he's being treated unfairly.</quote> Explain how being expected to obey the same laws as everyone else is unfair. Other situations with other people are irrelevant. If you can't argue how this is unfair without bringing up unrelated events then you have no argument.</quote> Because laws aren't inherently fair. History is littered with unfair laws. You'd have to be the ultimate statist to say something like that. I guarantee you I could find several laws that exist right now that you think aren't fair but you like this one because it's application exclusively benefits your political ideology. And stop with this "other situations are irrelevant". Context matters, you don't want to admit it because you're in a spot where it's either you have to exclude context or admit you're wrong. I'm sorry but if you ask me to show you how someone is being treated unfairly, it's fair game for me to bring up other situations. Right now, this is basically what you're doing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx32b5igLwA" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nick_Saban 12/23/18 12:19:55 AM #380:	GATTJT posted... Nick_Saban posted... Sarah Sanders is a woman, which I believe is a protected class. Are you saying it's okay to discriminate against people even if they're in protected classes as long as the reason for the discrimination isn't related to their protected status? Businesses can refuse service for any reason as long as they're not discriminating against protected classes, so...the answer to your question is yes. Sarah Sanders is a woman, so the business was wrong to deny her service then. The idea that some people can be discriminated against legally and some can't is insanely racist. --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite <cite>Nick_Saban posted [p:914578584] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>GATTJT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Sarah Sanders is a woman, which I believe is a protected class. Are you saying it's okay to discriminate against people even if they're in protected classes as long as the reason for the discrimination isn't related to their protected status?</quote> Businesses can refuse service for any reason as long as they're not discriminating against protected classes, so...the answer to your question is yes.</quote> Sarah Sanders is a woman, so the business was wrong to deny her service then. The idea that some people can be discriminated against legally and some can't is insanely racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 12/23/18 12:20:32 AM #381:	Nick_Saban posted... Because laws aren't inherently fair. True, but anti-discrimination laws are pretty fair. Would you like to attempt to make a well reasoned argument for why they wouldn't be? --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist <cite>GATTJT posted [p:914578610] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Because laws aren't inherently fair.</quote> True, but anti-discrimination laws are pretty fair. Would you like to attempt to make a well reasoned argument for why they wouldn't be?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 12/23/18 12:22:47 AM #382:	Nick_Saban posted... Sarah Sanders is a woman But they didn't ask her to leave because she's a woman. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist <cite>GATTJT posted [p:914578684] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Sarah Sanders is a woman</quote> But they didn't ask her to leave because she's a woman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 12/23/18 1:47:52 AM #383:	Nick_Saban posted... Sarah Sanders is a woman, which I believe is a protected class. Are you saying it's okay to discriminate against people even if they're in protected classes as long as the reason for the discrimination isn't related to their protected status? Do you understand that sounds insane to most people? No, that's exactly how it works. Sarah Sanders can be asked to leave a business because of her political ideology. Sarah Sanders can't be asked to leave a business because she's a woman. That's literally what "protected status" means and sounds insane to no one. Nick_Saban posted... Because laws aren't inherently fair. Whether you think the law is fair is irrelevant. Everyone else has to obey this law, explain how giving him a special exemption would be fair, please. Also keep in mind he agreed to obey the law when he opened his business, so you're unfairly asking for special treatment and the ability to ignore the fact that he knew ahead of time he would be expected to serve his customers equally. Nick_Saban posted... And stop with this "other situations are irrelevant". Context matters, you don't want to admit it because you're in a spot where it's either you have to exclude context or admit you're wrong. Yes, context matters. The specifics of another unrelated event have literally nothing to do with the context of this specific case being discussed. I will not respond to this line of discussion again. If you can't frame your argument within the context of this case then you have no argument. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:914581192] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Sarah Sanders is a woman, which I believe is a protected class. Are you saying it's okay to discriminate against people even if they're in protected classes as long as the reason for the discrimination isn't related to their protected status? Do you understand that sounds insane to most people?</quote> No, that's exactly how it works. Sarah Sanders can be asked to leave a business because of her political ideology. Sarah Sanders can't be asked to leave a business because she's a woman. That's literally what "protected status" means and sounds insane to no one. <cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Because laws aren't inherently fair.</quote> Whether you think the law is fair is irrelevant. Everyone else has to obey this law, explain how giving him a special exemption would be fair, please. Also keep in mind he agreed to obey the law when he opened his business, so you're unfairly asking for special treatment and the ability to ignore the fact that he knew ahead of time he would be expected to serve his customers equally. <cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>And stop with this "other situations are irrelevant". Context matters, you don't want to admit it because you're in a spot where it's either you have to exclude context or admit you're wrong.</quote> Yes, context matters. The specifics of another unrelated event have literally nothing to do with the context of this specific case being discussed. I will not respond to this line of discussion again. If you can't frame your argument within the context of this case then you have no argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nick_Saban 12/23/18 9:57:02 AM #384:	GATTJT posted... Nick_Saban posted... Because laws aren't inherently fair. True, but anti-discrimination laws are pretty fair. Would you like to attempt to make a well reasoned argument for why they wouldn't be? How is "People like these people had it rough a long time ago so people like them now get special treatment" fair? --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite <cite>Nick_Saban posted [p:914590701] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>GATTJT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Because laws aren't inherently fair.</quote> True, but anti-discrimination laws are pretty fair. Would you like to attempt to make a well reasoned argument for why they wouldn't be?</quote> How is "People like these people had it rough a long time ago so people like them now get special treatment" fair?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nick_Saban 12/23/18 9:57:44 AM #385:	GATTJT posted... Nick_Saban posted... Sarah Sanders is a woman But they didn't ask her to leave because she's a woman. So it's okay to discriminate against a protected class as long as you're doing it for the right reason? That's objectively insane... --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite <cite>Nick_Saban posted [p:914590717] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>GATTJT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Sarah Sanders is a woman</quote> But they didn't ask her to leave because she's a woman.</quote> So it's okay to discriminate against a protected class as long as you're doing it for the right reason? That's objectively insane...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 12/23/18 10:02:36 AM #386:	Shitposting about aarah Sanders is also objectively insane <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:914590846] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>Shitposting about aarah Sanders is also objectively insane</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nick_Saban 12/23/18 10:11:56 AM #387:	TrevorBlack79 posted... Nick_Saban posted... No, that's exactly how it works. Sarah Sanders can be asked to leave a business because of her political ideology. Sarah Sanders can't be asked to leave a business because she's a woman. That's literally what "protected status" means and sounds insane to no one. Whether you think the law is fair is irrelevant. Everyone else has to obey this law, explain how giving him a special exemption would be fair, please. Also keep in mind he agreed to obey the law when he opened his business, so you're unfairly asking for special treatment and the ability to ignore the fact that he knew ahead of time he would be expected to serve his customers equally. Yes, context matters. The specifics of another unrelated event have literally nothing to do with the context of this specific case being discussed. I will not respond to this line of discussion again. If you can't frame your argument within the context of this case then you have no argument. It sounds insane to most people that aren't radical leftists. Basically I could open a restaurant and deny service to Ellen Degeneres as long as I say it's because she's white? I don't think the law is unfair, it objectively is unfair if it forces people to compromise their belief system in order to have a business. Just because you want to open a business does not mean you should be at the mercy of a government. Stop with the pretend lawyer crap. You dont want to acknowledge it because unlike the law we're discussing the point I'm making is fair.Leftists do this all the time. Anytime anything goes against your dogma, you refuse to acknowledge it so you can pretend you're still right. --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite <cite>Nick_Saban posted [p:914591122] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> No, that's exactly how it works. Sarah Sanders can be asked to leave a business because of her political ideology. Sarah Sanders can't be asked to leave a business because she's a woman. That's literally what "protected status" means and sounds insane to no one. Whether you think the law is fair is irrelevant. Everyone else has to obey this law, explain how giving him a special exemption would be fair, please. Also keep in mind he agreed to obey the law when he opened his business, so you're unfairly asking for special treatment and the ability to ignore the fact that he knew ahead of time he would be expected to serve his customers equally. Yes, context matters. The specifics of another unrelated event have literally nothing to do with the context of this specific case being discussed. I will not respond to this line of discussion again. If you can't frame your argument within the context of this case then you have no argument.</quote> It sounds insane to most people that aren't radical leftists. Basically I could open a restaurant and deny service to Ellen Degeneres as long as I say it's because she's white? I don't think the law is unfair, it objectively is unfair if it forces people to compromise their belief system in order to have a business. Just because you want to open a business does not mean you should be at the mercy of a government. Stop with the pretend lawyer crap. You dont want to acknowledge it because unlike the law we're discussing the point I'm making is fair.Leftists do this all the time. Anytime anything goes against your dogma, you refuse to acknowledge it so you can pretend you're still right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 12/23/18 10:50:27 AM #388:	Nick_Saban posted... It sounds insane to most people that aren't radical leftists. It sounds insane to you and you alone. Nick_Saban posted... Basically I could open a restaurant and deny service to Ellen Degeneres as long as I say it's because she's white? No. Race is a protected class. How are you trying to speak with authority about what "sounds insane" when you haven't even grasped the basics of what's being discussed? Nick_Saban posted... I don't think the law is unfair, it objectively is unfair if it forces people to compromise their belief system in order to have a business. Well you're just objectively wrong about that. Giving Christians special rights that no one else has (the right to discriminate against customers they don't like) would be unfair. Treating Christians like everyone else and not giving them special rights is absolutely fair. Nick_Saban posted... You dont want to acknowledge it because unlike the law we're discussing the point I'm making is fair. I have explained repeatedly, in detail, how the law is fair. You have repeatedly said "nuh-uh, it's not fair!" without any supporting explanation or evidence. You're wrong. Nick_Saban posted... Leftists do this all the time. I am not a "leftist." Try again. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:914592303] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>It sounds insane to most people that aren't radical leftists.</quote> It sounds insane to you and you alone. <cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Basically I could open a restaurant and deny service to Ellen Degeneres as long as I say it's because she's white? </quote> No. Race is a protected class. How are you trying to speak with authority about what "sounds insane" when you haven't even grasped the basics of what's being discussed? <cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think the law is unfair, it objectively is unfair if it forces people to compromise their belief system in order to have a business. </quote> Well you're just objectively wrong about that. Giving Christians special rights that no one else has (the right to discriminate against customers they don't like) would be unfair. Treating Christians like everyone else and not giving them special rights is absolutely fair. <cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>You dont want to acknowledge it because unlike the law we're discussing the point I'm making is fair.</quote> I have explained repeatedly, in detail, how the law is fair. You have repeatedly said "nuh-uh, it's not fair!" without any supporting explanation or evidence. You're wrong. <cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Leftists do this all the time.</quote> I am not a "leftist." Try again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 12/23/18 11:47:44 AM #389:	Nick_Saban posted... How is "People like these people had it rough a long time ago so people like them now get special treatment" fair? It's more like "people like these people were unfairly discriminated against for things beyond their control, like their race or sexuality, so let's make that illegal so these people can be treated the same as straight white people". Nick_Saban posted... So it's okay to discriminate against a protected class as long as you're doing it for the right reason? Yep, now you get it! Nick_Saban posted... Basically I could open a restaurant and deny service to Ellen Degeneres as long as I say it's because she's white? Oh, guess you don't get it after all. No, you can't deny service to Ellen Degeneres because she's white, because race is a protected class. However, if she were to come into your restaurant and start shouting, "Death to all people who have dogs!", then you are well within your right to refuse service to her and ask her to leave. Her race or gender does not factor into your decision to refuse service. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist <cite>GATTJT posted [p:914594058] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>How is "People like these people had it rough a long time ago so people like them now get special treatment" fair?</quote> It's more like "people like these people were unfairly discriminated against for things beyond their control, like their race or sexuality, so let's make that illegal so these people can be treated the same as straight white people". <cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>So it's okay to discriminate against a protected class as long as you're doing it for the right reason?</quote> Yep, now you get it! <cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Basically I could open a restaurant and deny service to Ellen Degeneres as long as I say it's because she's white?</quote> Oh, guess you don't get it after all. No, you can't deny service to Ellen Degeneres because she's white, because race is a protected class. However, if she were to come into your restaurant and start shouting, "Death to all people who have dogs!", then you are well within your right to refuse service to her and ask her to leave. Her race or gender does not factor into your decision to refuse service.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 12/23/18 12:20:34 PM #390:	Nick_Saban posted... GATTJT posted... Nick_Saban posted... Sarah Sanders is a woman But they didn't ask her to leave because she's a woman. So it's okay to discriminate against a protected class as long as you're doing it for the right reason? That's objectively insane... Read up on disparate impact, it might help clarify some stuff to you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disparate_impact in short, you can discriminate against members of a protected class for reasons other than their protected class status, but if your policy of discrimination adversely impacts a disproportionate number of a protected class, your discrimination may still be illegal. for example, height is not inherently a protected class. But if you have a policy that to work for your business you need to be at least 5'10" but there isn't a need to be at least 5'10" to perform the duties of job, that could be considered discrimination against women who are less likely to be 5'10" so it disparately impacts them. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:914595173] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GATTJT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Sarah Sanders is a woman</quote> But they didn't ask her to leave because she's a woman.</quote> So it's okay to discriminate against a protected class as long as you're doing it for the right reason? That's objectively insane...</quote> Read up on disparate impact, it might help clarify some stuff to you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disparate_impact in short, you can discriminate against members of a protected class for reasons other than their protected class status, but if your policy of discrimination adversely impacts a disproportionate number of a protected class, your discrimination may still be illegal. for example, height is not inherently a protected class. But if you have a policy that to work for your business you need to be at least 5'10" but there isn't a need to be at least 5'10" to perform the duties of job, that could be considered discrimination against women who are less likely to be 5'10" so it disparately impacts them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nick_Saban 12/23/18 3:52:32 PM #391:	This is what happens when dumb people are elected to write law. Basically this is a snuff job. You're writing laws to ban conservatism because you dont like the way you think. The left is basically saying "You will do for us because we are protected but you can starve to death because we don't like the way you think" --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite <cite>Nick_Saban posted [p:914604985] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>This is what happens when dumb people are elected to write law. Basically this is a snuff job. You're writing laws to ban conservatism because you dont like the way you think. The left is basically saying "You will do for us because we are protected but you can starve to death because we don't like the way you think"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 12/23/18 3:54:01 PM #392:	see the dilemma is he didn't refuse service towards HER. He refused only to do a transgender coming out cake. people like to gloss over that and act all offended because they think they are on the "right side" --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:914605054] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>see the dilemma is he didn't refuse service towards HER. He refused only to do a transgender coming out cake. people like to gloss over that and act all offended because they think they are on the "right side"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 12/23/18 5:55:25 PM #393:	Nick_Saban posted... GATTJT posted... Nick_Saban posted... Sarah Sanders is a woman But they didn't ask her to leave because she's a woman. So it's okay to discriminate against a protected class as long as you're doing it for the right reason? That's objectively insane... No, but they didn't discriminate against a protected class. If they aren't doing it because of what makes them a protected class, it isn't discrimination. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:914610810] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GATTJT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Sarah Sanders is a woman</quote> But they didn't ask her to leave because she's a woman.</quote> So it's okay to discriminate against a protected class as long as you're doing it for the right reason? That's objectively insane...</quote> No, but they didn't discriminate against a protected class. If they aren't doing it because of what makes them a protected class, it isn't discrimination.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 12/23/18 6:46:15 PM #394:	Nick_Saban posted... You're writing laws to ban conservatism because you dont like the way you think. Literally no one is doing this. Nick_Saban posted... The left is basically saying "You will do for us because we are protected but you can starve to death because we don't like the way you think" Literally no one is saying this. Your worldview is fucked up, dude. You have a hardcore victim complex and are inventing a "leftist" boogeyman that somehow enacts shadow laws to keep conservatives subjugated. It's utter nonsense. Seek help. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:914612986] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>You're writing laws to ban conservatism because you dont like the way you think. </quote> Literally no one is doing this. <cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>The left is basically saying "You will do for us because we are protected but you can starve to death because we don't like the way you think"</quote> Literally no one is saying this. Your worldview is fucked up, dude. You have a hardcore victim complex and are inventing a "leftist" boogeyman that somehow enacts shadow laws to keep conservatives subjugated. It's utter nonsense. Seek help.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nick_Saban 12/23/18 7:08:43 PM #395:	TrevorBlack79 posted... Nick_Saban posted... You're writing laws to ban conservatism because you dont like the way you think. Literally no one is doing this. Nick_Saban posted... The left is basically saying "You will do for us because we are protected but you can starve to death because we don't like the way you think" Literally no one is saying this. Your worldview is fucked up, dude. You have a hardcore victim complex and are inventing a "leftist" boogeyman that somehow enacts shadow laws to keep conservatives subjugated. It's utter nonsense. Seek help. It's not a boogeyman when I've been added to leftist groups on facebook and watched them dox people(and their family members and coworkers) that did something in opposition to their dogma and then write out a pre made letter explaining why this person shouldn't have a job and encourage all of the members of the group email it to the person's boss at their work email address. Just because you say people aren't saying this doesn't make it true and in fact it's an out right lie. --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite <cite>Nick_Saban posted [p:914614090] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>You're writing laws to ban conservatism because you dont like the way you think. </quote> Literally no one is doing this. <cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>The left is basically saying "You will do for us because we are protected but you can starve to death because we don't like the way you think"</quote> Literally no one is saying this. Your worldview is fucked up, dude. You have a hardcore victim complex and are inventing a "leftist" boogeyman that somehow enacts shadow laws to keep conservatives subjugated. It's utter nonsense. Seek help.</quote> It's not a boogeyman when I've been added to leftist groups on facebook and watched them dox people(and their family members and coworkers) that did something in opposition to their dogma and then write out a pre made letter explaining why this person shouldn't have a job and encourage all of the members of the group email it to the person's boss at their work email address. Just because you say people aren't saying this doesn't make it true and in fact it's an out right lie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleDare 12/23/18 7:21:31 PM #396:	I know people too (including an aunt) that has unfriended FAMILY members because they lean right. Last get together she asked me if I was a trumper, which I said no. (Im not, I'm neither democrat or republican, screw labels) also lol @ this topic still going on. --- On Your Mark...Get Set........GO!!!!!! <cite>DoubleDare posted [p:914614646] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>I know people too (including an aunt) that has unfriended FAMILY members because they lean right. Last get together she asked me if I was a trumper, which I said no. (Im not, I'm neither democrat or republican, screw labels) also lol @ this topic still going on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/23/18 7:22:25 PM #397:	hockeybub89 posted... Want to run a business? Don't discriminate. Simple as that. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:914614696] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Want to run a business? Don't discriminate. Simple as that.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 12/23/18 7:37:21 PM #398:	Nick_Saban posted... It's not a boogeyman when I've been added to leftist groups on facebook and watched them dox people(and their family members and coworkers) that did something in opposition to their dogma and then write out a pre made letter explaining why this person shouldn't have a job and encourage all of the members of the group email it to the person's boss at their work email address. And there are assholes on the right who do the same. Here you are acting like this behavior is exclusive to "the left" and everyone on "the left" behaves this way. Neither is true. The people you describe are an extreme minority among both the left and right, yet you have an obviously skewed and biased perception of this. Nick_Saban posted... Just because you say people aren't saying this doesn't make it true and in fact it's an out right lie. No, it's objectively not happening. No one is "writing laws to ban conservatism," and I invite you to demonstrate otherwise. Cite the exact law or admit that you're wrong. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:914615391] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>It's not a boogeyman when I've been added to leftist groups on facebook and watched them dox people(and their family members and coworkers) that did something in opposition to their dogma and then write out a pre made letter explaining why this person shouldn't have a job and encourage all of the members of the group email it to the person's boss at their work email address. </quote> And there are assholes on the right who do the same. Here you are acting like this behavior is exclusive to "the left" and everyone on "the left" behaves this way. Neither is true. The people you describe are an extreme minority among both the left and right, yet you have an obviously skewed and biased perception of this. <cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>Just because you say people aren't saying this doesn't make it true and in fact it's an out right lie.</quote> No, it's objectively not happening. No one is "writing laws to ban conservatism," and I invite you to demonstrate otherwise. Cite the exact law or admit that you're wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nick_Saban 12/23/18 8:27:30 PM #399:	"Lets make hate speech laws and then brand everything conservatives say that opposes our political platform as hate speech" --- Fat people in small amounts of clothing always makes me giggle.-SvenGeorgeson Then you must have loads of fun looking in a mirror.-LegendaryElite <cite>Nick_Saban posted [p:914617762] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote>"Lets make hate speech laws and then brand everything conservatives say that opposes our political platform as hate speech"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 12/23/18 10:16:22 PM #400:	Nick_Saban posted... "Lets make hate speech laws and then brand everything conservatives say that opposes our political platform as hate speech" TrevorBlack79 posted... Cite the exact law or admit that you're wrong. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:914622408] in Colorado b... [t:77319143]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nick_Saban posted...</cite> <quote>"Lets make hate speech laws and then brand everything conservatives say that opposes our political platform as hate speech"</quote> <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Cite the exact law or admit that you're wrong.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Colorado bakers are back in court, but this time over a transgender cake order. (+) Yeah! (+)

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