Current Events > Just finished the prologue to MGSV.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Banjo2553 posted...

DevsBro posted...

Holy moley did they literally just give me a mission I've already done, just without any initial equipment?

Whatever, I got the S rank lol.

Yeah, expect a lot of the main missions in Chapter 2 to be retreads for the sake of making some previous missions harder. There's not even a legit story reason either IIRC.

Its just extra challenge version of the original missions. Not officially part of thee story just otherwise chapter 2 is short so its filler i guess you can say.
---

Yeah ok that was the problem afterall. I was looking in the wrong place.

Finally got where do the bees sleep S rsnk and all tasks.
---

You up to Mission 43 yet, TC?
---

Shotgunnova posted...

You up to Mission 43 yet, TC?

Nope. Last one I did was 32, I think.
---

Ahh. I just did 43 for the first time, so I won't bother discussing it yet. =|
---

Heh, I managed to extract the prisoner and 4 armored vehicles in the Backup Back Down extreme mission by using D Horse as bait.
---

it's been a while since I've played MGSV, so idk exactly where you are, but if you like replaying missions at higher difficulties, that's fine, but you don't have to if you don't want to.

all you need to do to progress is to do golden missions and listen to golden tapes, iirc.
---

boxington posted...

it's been a while since I've played MGSV, so idk exactly where you are, but if you like replaying missions at higher difficulties, that's fine, but you don't have to if you don't want to.

all you need to do to progress is to do golden missions and listen to golden tapes, iirc.

I dont care for the extreme missions but the no starting equipment ones are fun. I guess I like a challenge that forces you to really change your approach rather than just making you bring bigger guns.
---

Yeah, subsistence missions are kinda fun.
---

Shotgunnova posted...

Yeah, subsistence missions are kinda fun.

I felt that was the name of them but its been awhile and didnt wanna be wrong. Real shame you can't legit do it for every mission.
---

mooreandrew58 posted...

Shotgunnova posted...

Yeah, subsistence missions are kinda fun.

I felt that was the name of them but its been awhile and didnt wanna be wrong. Real shame you can't legit do it for every mission.

Yeah, I think the game always forces you to bring a primary weapon into maps. I only found that out today when I was trying to strip off unnecessary equipment to cheese Cloaked in Silence (in order to get Quiet back after she leaves).
---

Shotgunnova posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Shotgunnova posted...

Yeah, subsistence missions are kinda fun.

I felt that was the name of them but its been awhile and didnt wanna be wrong. Real shame you can't legit do it for every mission.

Yeah, I think the game always forces you to bring a primary weapon into maps. I only found that out today when I was trying to strip off unnecessary equipment to cheese Cloaked in Silence (in order to ).

I don't get that at all. I more or less never use my hip weapon (except against radar things; don't even need explosives lol) but I have to bring one anyway. Cheapest is a mere 90GMP though so I guess it's not a big deal.
---

Shotgunnova posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Shotgunnova posted...

Yeah, subsistence missions are kinda fun.

I felt that was the name of them but its been awhile and didnt wanna be wrong. Real shame you can't legit do it for every mission.

Yeah, I think the game always forces you to bring a primary weapon into maps. I only found that out today when I was trying to strip off unnecessary equipment to cheese Cloaked in Silence (in order to get Quiet back after she leaves).

Yeah some people equip a smoke grenade launcher to come as close to subsistence as they can but its not the same to me.
---

There's a smoke grenade launcher? Didn't even know that.

DevsBro posted...

I don't get that at all. I more or less never use my hip weapon (except against radar things; don't even need explosives lol) but I have to bring one anyway. Cheapest is a mere 90GMP though so I guess it's not a big deal.

Yeah, I end up deploying with 50,000 GMP worth of stuff most of the time, just for a few side ops -- a big waste of time usually.
---

Shotgunnova posted...

There's a smoke grenade launcher? Didn't even know that.

DevsBro posted...

I don't get that at all. I more or less never use my hip weapon (except against radar things; don't even need explosives lol) but I have to bring one anyway. Cheapest is a mere 90GMP though so I guess it's not a big deal.

Yeah, I end up deploying with 50,000 GMP worth of stuff most of the time, just for a few side ops -- a big waste of time usually.

I was always a penny pincher. Didnt go with bare minimum gmp deploy costs but it was really low like 1000-2000 I think. Grade 2 tranq gun and assault rifle. Maybe a sniper or rocket launcher as needed.
---

These guys are pretty slow if they're just now figuring out all this about Quiet.

What's even weirder is that Ocelot played good cop in that torture scene. I mean, he more or less gets off to it.
---

There are some pretty great late game scenes.
---

Also why didn't Quiet say "Hey does anybody speak X language" in X language?
---

DevsBro posted...

anybody

Because the amount of people that do is next to none. Better question is why not write things down if you are looking for a plot hole. They semi explain though. So what im about to say is spoilers i guess she was undecided between completing her mission (killing big boss) and forsaking her mission and desire for revenge as she came to respect/like him

Edit. Dunno why it cut the quote to the one word. Im replying to thr whole post
---

Yep, Man on Fire was Volgin afterall. And, uh...

Otacon's mom was a lesbian? I mean, I guess it's possible, but...
---

The entire plot is a fucking dumpster fire.

Its what you get when you write a long running series literally one entry at a time, and each new entry is supposed to be the last one.

In order to continue, things just get more and more fucked up. Questions no one asked get answered. Questions everyone asked get answered poorly.
---

DevsBro posted...

Yep, Man on Fire was Volgin afterall. And, uh...

Otacon's mom was a lesbian? I mean, I guess it's possible, but...

Yeah game doesnt hide that its volgin very well. Between his outfit and ocelot saying "back from the dead I see" anyways

And Yeah either bi or a lesbian who made one exception. Could have been a in a moment of passion sort of deal after the events of peace walker. Wanna say somewhere it hints she did it to have a kid though but dont quote me on that
---

Also, I get that this is an MGS game but come on now, there's a limit to how much freaking dialog you can have to explain one dumb plot device (in this case, the parasites).
---

DevsBro posted...

Also, I get that this is an MGS game but come on now, there's a limit to how much freaking dialog you can have to explain one dumb plot device (in this case, the parasites).

Leme guess codetalker annoying the crap out of you?
---

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

Yep, Man on Fire was Volgin afterall. And, uh...

Otacon's mom was a lesbian? I mean, I guess it's possible, but...

Yeah game doesnt hide that its volgin very well. Between his outfit and ocelot saying "back from the dead I see" anyways

And Yeah either bi or a lesbian who made one exception. Could have been a in a moment of passion sort of deal after the events of peace walker. Wanna say somewhere it hints she did it to have a kid though but dont quote me on that

She had at least one tape in PW that confirmed she was lesbian. She talked about her childhood and adolescence, how all her friends would talk about boys, and I distinctly remember the line "I never had much to say on such matters."

And I think I remember a PW tape, also about her youth, where she refers to herself using the word "gay" but I'm a little less positive on that one.
---

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

Also, I get that this is an MGS game but come on now, there's a limit to how much freaking dialog you can have to explain one dumb plot device (in this case, the parasites).

Leme guess codetalker annoying the crap out of you?

Yep. At least the hamburger one was good though.

"We suffered more than you can imagine... But I do not consider hamburgers to be accomplices"
---

DevsBro posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

Also, I get that this is an MGS game but come on now, there's a limit to how much freaking dialog you can have to explain one dumb plot device (in this case, the parasites).

Leme guess codetalker annoying the crap out of you?

Yep. At least the hamburger one was good though.

"We suffered more than you can imagine... But I do not consider hamburgers to be accomplices"

You should search youtube after you beat the game. There is a hamburger tape someone edited. Due to the way code talker talks it wasnt hard to make it sound legit and they mixed the hamburger tapes with his regular ones and it makes it sound like hes talking about having sex with a burger.

Id find it and link it but cant recall if there is spoilers in it. If there is it wouldnt be much though. Look up metal gear solid v the burgers of kazhuria miller 5 burger confession. Something like that anyways
---

I can't do this total stealth mission. I need a countermeasure for their helmets. I use my whole suppressor taking down just a few enemies.

Who makes these things, btw? Can't we find a better supplier? Or stick a few in my pockets?

*shrugs*
---

DevsBro posted...

I can't do this total stealth mission. I need a countermeasure for their helmets. I use my whole suppressor taking down just a few enemies.

Who makes these things, btw? Can't we find a better supplier? Or stick a few in my pockets?

*shrugs*

You can do a deployment mission that knocks down the amount of helmets you see. Its a destroy storage shed one. You just have to wait dor it to finish. Its like 30 minutes or an hour i forget. But iirc its effects last up to 3 missions

Also there is a chicken hat exploit. Get the chicken hat enough times during missions it should totally reset all of that bacl the way it was at the beginning of the game

Thats how this game works btw if you havent noticed you do something enough times enemies start to take counter measures. Headshot enough people you see more helmets. Do enough night missions night vision goggles appear. Use snipers alot they counter by placing their own snipers
---

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

Also, I get that this is an MGS game but come on now, there's a limit to how much freaking dialog you can have to explain one dumb plot device (in this case, the parasites).

Leme guess codetalker annoying the crap out of you?

Yep. At least the hamburger one was good though.

"We suffered more than you can imagine... But I do not consider hamburgers to be accomplices"

You should search youtube after you beat the game. There is a hamburger tape someone edited. Due to the way code talker talks it wasnt hard to make it sound legit and they mixed the hamburger tapes with his regular ones and it makes it sound like hes talking about having sex with a burger.

Id find it and link it but cant recall if there is spoilers in it. If there is it wouldnt be much though. Look up metal gear solid v the burgers of kazhuria miller 5 burger confession. Something like that anyways

There aren't any spoilers.

Here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzfNrkJ-3mE" data-time="
---

The_Ivory_Man posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

Also, I get that this is an MGS game but come on now, there's a limit to how much freaking dialog you can have to explain one dumb plot device (in this case, the parasites).

Leme guess codetalker annoying the crap out of you?

Yep. At least the hamburger one was good though.

"We suffered more than you can imagine... But I do not consider hamburgers to be accomplices"

You should search youtube after you beat the game. There is a hamburger tape someone edited. Due to the way code talker talks it wasnt hard to make it sound legit and they mixed the hamburger tapes with his regular ones and it makes it sound like hes talking about having sex with a burger.

Id find it and link it but cant recall if there is spoilers in it. If there is it wouldnt be much though. Look up metal gear solid v the burgers of kazhuria miller 5 burger confession. Something like that anyways

There aren't any spoilers.

Here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzfNrkJ-3mE" data-time="

Its been awhile since ive seen it. Wanted to be safe
---

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

I can't do this total stealth mission. I need a countermeasure for their helmets. I use my whole suppressor taking down just a few enemies.

Who makes these things, btw? Can't we find a better supplier? Or stick a few in my pockets?

*shrugs*

You can do a deployment mission that knocks down the amount of helmets you see. Its a destroy storage shed one. You just have to wait dor it to finish. Its like 30 minutes or an hour i forget. But iirc its effects last up to 3 missions

Also there is a chicken hat exploit. Get the chicken hat enough times during missions it should totally reset all of that bacl the way it was at the beginning of the game

Thats how this game works btw if you havent noticed you do something enough times enemies start to take counter measures. Headshot enough people you see more helmets. Do enough night missions night vision goggles appear. Use snipers alot they counter by placing their own snipers

Oh I see. I thought this gear just appeared in general as you did more missions or sidequests.

Since literally every mission I do is at night, that explains why there are so many NVGs.
---

DevsBro posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

I can't do this total stealth mission. I need a countermeasure for their helmets. I use my whole suppressor taking down just a few enemies.

Who makes these things, btw? Can't we find a better supplier? Or stick a few in my pockets?

*shrugs*

You can do a deployment mission that knocks down the amount of helmets you see. Its a destroy storage shed one. You just have to wait dor it to finish. Its like 30 minutes or an hour i forget. But iirc its effects last up to 3 missions

Also there is a chicken hat exploit. Get the chicken hat enough times during missions it should totally reset all of that bacl the way it was at the beginning of the game

Thats how this game works btw if you havent noticed you do something enough times enemies start to take counter measures. Headshot enough people you see more helmets. Do enough night missions night vision goggles appear. Use snipers alot they counter by placing their own snipers

Oh I see. I thought this gear just appeared in general as you did more missions or sidequests.

Since literally every mission I do is at night, that explains why there are so many NVGs.

Yeah there should be some boxes showing up in your idrod while in the acc. Forget where but clearly is low white is medium and red heavy. Only symbol I remember is the helmet one. Should look like a helmet.

But yeah they wanted a the enemies adapt to you thing. Sounds cool on paper. Its just ok in execution
---

Oh I bet this is also why they started turning around on me when I hold them up too, and it may have something to do with the recent appearance of more mines.
---

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

I can't do this total stealth mission. I need a countermeasure for their helmets. I use my whole suppressor taking down just a few enemies.

Who makes these things, btw? Can't we find a better supplier? Or stick a few in my pockets?

*shrugs*

You can do a deployment mission that knocks down the amount of helmets you see. Its a destroy storage shed one. You just have to wait dor it to finish. Its like 30 minutes or an hour i forget. But iirc its effects last up to 3 missions

Also there is a chicken hat exploit. Get the chicken hat enough times during missions it should totally reset all of that bacl the way it was at the beginning of the game

Thats how this game works btw if you havent noticed you do something enough times enemies start to take counter measures. Headshot enough people you see more helmets. Do enough night missions night vision goggles appear. Use snipers alot they counter by placing their own snipers

Oh I see. I thought this gear just appeared in general as you did more missions or sidequests.

Since literally every mission I do is at night, that explains why there are so many NVGs.

Yeah there should be some boxes showing up in your idrod while in the acc. Forget where but clearly is low white is medium and red heavy. Only symbol I remember is the helmet one. Should look like a helmet.

But yeah they wanted a the enemies adapt to you thing. Sounds cool on paper. Its just ok in execution

In theory, it forces the player to use new tactics regularly, but they screwed that up when they screwed everything else up by bringing back the heroism system.

Plus, it's usually not that much harder to just pop them in the face in reflex mode. Though the full welder helmets are a challenge... But they're not all that common. At least not yet.
---

You mentioned Man on Fire's real identity, so I'm assuming you made it passed the part with the sexy cyborg snipers. If you have not gotten past that part yet, do not read ahead.

That part really frustrated me because I was vastly underpowered for the fight, and it was taking forever, basically doing chip damage even with optimal combinations. I didn't bring any gear to distract or obscure my path, either, but I refused to quit out.

All I had was my trusty box. My trusty box that as it turns out can tank quite a few sniper rounds.
---

I just sprinted through and didn't even get hit lol.
---

DevsBro posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

I can't do this total stealth mission. I need a countermeasure for their helmets. I use my whole suppressor taking down just a few enemies.

Who makes these things, btw? Can't we find a better supplier? Or stick a few in my pockets?

*shrugs*

You can do a deployment mission that knocks down the amount of helmets you see. Its a destroy storage shed one. You just have to wait dor it to finish. Its like 30 minutes or an hour i forget. But iirc its effects last up to 3 missions

Also there is a chicken hat exploit. Get the chicken hat enough times during missions it should totally reset all of that bacl the way it was at the beginning of the game

Thats how this game works btw if you havent noticed you do something enough times enemies start to take counter measures. Headshot enough people you see more helmets. Do enough night missions night vision goggles appear. Use snipers alot they counter by placing their own snipers

Oh I see. I thought this gear just appeared in general as you did more missions or sidequests.

Since literally every mission I do is at night, that explains why there are so many NVGs.

Yeah there should be some boxes showing up in your idrod while in the acc. Forget where but clearly is low white is medium and red heavy. Only symbol I remember is the helmet one. Should look like a helmet.

But yeah they wanted a the enemies adapt to you thing. Sounds cool on paper. Its just ok in execution

In theory, it forces the player to use new tactics regularly, but they screwed that up when they screwed everything else up by bringing back the heroism system.

Plus, it's usually not that much harder to just pop them in the face in reflex mode. Though the full welder helmets are a challenge... But they're not all that common. At least not yet.

I never really changed my tactics. Gear once i could afford it. There is a silenced pistol and sniper that can penetrate helmets. They are lethal though. I used the hell out of the pistol. For non lethal i suggest trying to get this particular line of non lethal shotgun. Can eventually have a silencer on it. High enough rank and it will one shot troops even with a torso shot.
---

If you want to knock out helmeted dudes, you can also use LLG mines, which are basically silent gas dispersal tech. Some helmeted dudes can also be tranq'd in their extremities. I haven't used this method, but there are cassettes that play lullabies, and apparently they put enemies to sleep if you use the right music (like the Afghan Lullaby in Afghanistan, etc.).

Food for thought if you wanna switch things up.
---

DevsBro posted...

I just sprinted through and didn't even get hit lol.

y u gotta rek me bro
---

Shotgunnova posted...

If you want to knock out helmeted dudes, you can also use LLG mines, which are basically silent gas dispersal tech. Some helmeted dudes can also be tranq'd in their extremities. I haven't used this method, but there are cassettes that play lullabies, and apparently they put enemies to sleep if you use the right music (like the Afghan Lullaby in Afghanistan, etc.).

Food for thought if you wanna switch things up.

lol

If enemies can hear the music, why don't they notice me sneaking up on them blasting Rebel Yell?

Kojima is a silly willy.
---

DevsBro posted...

Shotgunnova posted...

If you want to knock out helmeted dudes, you can also use LLG mines, which are basically silent gas dispersal tech. Some helmeted dudes can also be tranq'd in their extremities. I haven't used this method, but there are cassettes that play lullabies, and apparently they put enemies to sleep if you use the right music (like the Afghan Lullaby in Afghanistan, etc.).

Food for thought if you wanna switch things up.

lol

If enemies can hear the music, why don't they notice me sneaking up on them blasting Rebel Yell?

Kojima is a silly willy.

Are you blasting it by earphone or speaker? You can toggle that.
---

Guide posted...

DevsBro posted...

Shotgunnova posted...

If you want to knock out helmeted dudes, you can also use LLG mines, which are basically silent gas dispersal tech. Some helmeted dudes can also be tranq'd in their extremities. I haven't used this method, but there are cassettes that play lullabies, and apparently they put enemies to sleep if you use the right music (like the Afghan Lullaby in Afghanistan, etc.).

Food for thought if you wanna switch things up.

lol

If enemies can hear the music, why don't they notice me sneaking up on them blasting Rebel Yell?

Kojima is a silly willy.

Are you blasting it by earphone or speaker? You can toggle that.

Really?

Huh.
---

DevsBro posted...

Guide posted...

DevsBro posted...

Shotgunnova posted...

If you want to knock out helmeted dudes, you can also use LLG mines, which are basically silent gas dispersal tech. Some helmeted dudes can also be tranq'd in their extremities. I haven't used this method, but there are cassettes that play lullabies, and apparently they put enemies to sleep if you use the right music (like the Afghan Lullaby in Afghanistan, etc.).

Food for thought if you wanna switch things up.

lol

If enemies can hear the music, why don't they notice me sneaking up on them blasting Rebel Yell?

Kojima is a silly willy.

Are you blasting it by earphone or speaker? You can toggle that.

Really?

Huh.

Yeah I forget how though. I never used the speaker function.
---

mooreandrew58 posted...

DevsBro posted...

Guide posted...

DevsBro posted...

Shotgunnova posted...

If you want to knock out helmeted dudes, you can also use LLG mines, which are basically silent gas dispersal tech. Some helmeted dudes can also be tranq'd in their extremities. I haven't used this method, but there are cassettes that play lullabies, and apparently they put enemies to sleep if you use the right music (like the Afghan Lullaby in Afghanistan, etc.).

Food for thought if you wanna switch things up.

lol

If enemies can hear the music, why don't they notice me sneaking up on them blasting Rebel Yell?

Kojima is a silly willy.

Are you blasting it by earphone or speaker? You can toggle that.

Really?

Huh.

Yeah I forget how though. I never used the speaker function.

I don't quite remember, I think it toggled with the select button while on the tape menu. Almost certain that it's a button along with the the standard stop/play/pause/ff
---

So what I did was used DD with stun rod lol.
---

"I never believed you were dead for a second!"

Well, look where that got ya.
---

I like that they gave Quiet a Sniper Wolf outfit for the Extreme version.
---

DevsBro posted...

I like that they gave Quiet a Sniper Wolf outfit for the Extreme version.

You can unlock it for her to use in gameplay IIRC
---

AlecSkorpio posted...

DevsBro posted...

I like that they gave Quiet a Sniper Wolf outfit for the Extreme version.

You can unlock it for her to use in gameplay IIRC

Yes by s ranking the mission iirc
---