Poll of the Day > Would you do two weeks of total isolation to never be sick?

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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

MrMelodramatic posted...

No toilet. You have a bed, pillow, and light switch only.

Then I'll just shit in the corner like an animal. Or really just shit on the plate/bowl they give me.

What do you wipe your ass with or is that a non-factor

sodium-chloride posted...

You guys are extremely confident that you could survive without basic necessities for two weeks. Prisoners in solitary confinement are still given some time out of the hole and time to use a toilet/take a shower, even go outside. And they're usually not stuck in that space for two weeks at a time.

You have no toilet or way to clean yourself in this situation. Your mind is the only source of entertainment/stimulation. But apparently all anyone on this board needs is a bed and a light switch to survive. Enjoy waddling in your filth and smelling your poop for 14 days.

I'm not surprised though. A lot of this board thinks it is okay with pressing a button to randomly kill 100 people around the world for a million dollars.

All cells have a toilet in them.

keyblader1985 posted...

The toilet thing is a good point. It wasn't explicitly denied so we need a ruling on it.

No it's a shit point.

MrMelodramatic posted...

No toilet. You have a bed, pillow, and light switch only.

I'm overriding you right now. That was a incredibly dumb "point" of his.
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Revelation34 posted...

sodium-chloride posted...

You guys are extremely confident that you could survive without basic necessities for two weeks. Prisoners in solitary confinement are still given some time out of the hole and time to use a toilet/take a shower, even go outside. And they're usually not stuck in that space for two weeks at a time.

You have no toilet or way to clean yourself in this situation. Your mind is the only source of entertainment/stimulation. But apparently all anyone on this board needs is a bed and a light switch to survive. Enjoy waddling in your filth and smelling your poop for 14 days.

I'm not surprised though. A lot of this board thinks it is okay with pressing a button to randomly kill 100 people around the world for a million dollars.

All cells have a toilet in them.

keyblader1985 posted...

The toilet thing is a good point. It wasn't explicitly denied so we need a ruling on it.

No it's a shit point.

MrMelodramatic posted...

No toilet. You have a bed, pillow, and light switch only.

I'm overriding you right now. That was a incredibly dumb "point" of his.

But this is a real jail or anything. Its just a hypothetical question. You get put into a windowless room with only a light switch, bed, and pillow. And where you basically get a superpower at the end. Its doesnt have to be based on anything real...
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sodium-chloride posted...

You guys are extremely confident that you could survive without basic necessities for two weeks.

Yes?
Its 2 weeks. It comes and goes, you deal with it and move on. Just have your eyes on the prize and think about everything you can do immmediately afterwards. Never having to worry about getting sick. That's superpower stuff.

It would be easy.
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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...

sodium-chloride posted...

You guys are extremely confident that you could survive without basic necessities for two weeks.

Yes?
Its 2 weeks. It comes and goes, you deal with it and move on. Just have your eyes on the prize and think about everything you can do immmediately afterwards. Never having to worry about getting sick. That's superpower stuff.

It would be easy.

Not enough for me to want to do it. I rarely get sick as it is. I could care less about what doesnt really happen not happening anymore. Maybe if I got a ton of cash afterwards + the superpowers, Id at least try. Though, Id want a button to stop if I didnt feel like finishing.

Even then, not sure how I would mentally handle it...
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fuck man, i take immuno modifiers and immuno suppresants so i am extra vulnerable to being sick.

this is for sure a hard yes from me

Revelation34 posted...

sodium-chloride posted...

You guys are extremely confident that you could survive without basic necessities for two weeks. Prisoners in solitary confinement are still given some time out of the hole and time to use a toilet/take a shower, even go outside. And they're usually not stuck in that space for two weeks at a time.

You have no toilet or way to clean yourself in this situation. Your mind is the only source of entertainment/stimulation. But apparently all anyone on this board needs is a bed and a light switch to survive. Enjoy waddling in your filth and smelling your poop for 14 days.

I'm not surprised though. A lot of this board thinks it is okay with pressing a button to randomly kill 100 people around the world for a million dollars.

All cells have a toilet in them.

keyblader1985 posted...

The toilet thing is a good point. It wasn't explicitly denied so we need a ruling on it.

No it's a shit point.

MrMelodramatic posted...

No toilet. You have a bed, pillow, and light switch only.

I'm overriding you right now. That was a incredibly dumb "point" of his.

But it's just a toilet. Apparently this board is mentally and physically fortified enough to go without one.

Sure you can poop on the food tray and have it removed but then how do you clean yourself? Sounds like an easy way to give yourself dysentery which only makes you more susceptible to further disease.

Forget about the poop. What about urine? What happens when you start peeing more than the provided cup's volume can hold? Urinating on the ground will inevitably make such an enclosed space stink. Sleep and mood would both be greatly affected.

And if you can't tell how long it's been since you have had your last meal or how long you have slept for that makes putting yourself to sleep all the more difficult. In the real world you're able to sleep because you have cues and a routine that interact with circadian rhythm. Your circadian rhythm will be completely gone when you have next to no sense of time and no way to tell how much time has passed. The only way you'll be getting sleep in this situation is from pure exhaustion.

sodium-chloride posted...

Sure you can poop on the food tray and have it removed but then how do you clean yourself? Sounds like an easy way to give yourself dysentery which only makes you more susceptible to further disease.

While I agree that I would do it, this probably wouldnt matter much. Unless it takes hold before the get out...
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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...

sodium-chloride posted...

You guys are extremely confident that you could survive without basic necessities for two weeks.

Yes?
Its 2 weeks. It comes and goes, you deal with it and move on. Just have your eyes on the prize and think about everything you can do immmediately afterwards. Never having to worry about getting sick. That's superpower stuff.

It would be easy.

By the way, what do you mean by everything you can do afterwards. AFAIK, you just dont get sick... So, it would be normal life for most people that arent sick all the time... Or take immunosuppressants or the like...
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LinkPizza posted...

By the way, what do you mean by everything you can do afterwards. AFAIK, you just dont get sick... So, it would be normal life for most people that arent sick all the time... Or take immunosuppressants or the like...

But sick covers everything from a cold to STD to shit like heart disease or high blood pressure. Hell, even obesity and addiction are classified as diseases now. You are free from all mental and physical ailments.

You can eat like shit with no effect on your health. You will never become addicted to a substance. You will never suffer from depression. Never develop cancer or something like dementia. You can fuck strangers bareback without fear. No matter what mental trauma you may experience in the future, you will get over it without having some shit like PTSD.


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Bugmeat posted...

LinkPizza posted...

By the way, what do you mean by everything you can do afterwards. AFAIK, you just dont get sick... So, it would be normal life for most people that arent sick all the time... Or take immunosuppressants or the like...

But sick covers everything from a cold to STD to shit like heart disease or high blood pressure. Hell, even obesity and addiction are classified as diseases now. You are free from all mental and physical ailments.

You can eat like shit with no effect on your health. You will never become addicted to a substance. You will never suffer from depression. Never develop cancer or something like dementia. You can fuck strangers bareback without fear. No matter what mental trauma you may experience in the future, you will get over it without having some shit like PTSD.

Most of that seems useless. I already fucked strangers bareback and Im fine. And now in a relationship, so doesnt matter. Also, most people dont care already. And they finally built the drug to resist HIV/AIDS. Or the spread of it. I think the rest are like easier to actually live with. Still wouldnt want them. But I dont think theyre Life threatening. But would it actually stop obesity. We classify it as a disease. But does that actually mean it would cure it in this hypothetical. Also, would you still be able to get drunk or high. I think I remember reading about the downsides of like a curing power that also make it impossible to get drunk or high. Meaning no addiction wouldnt matter if the drugs did nothing in the first place.
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LinkPizza posted...

Bugmeat posted...

LinkPizza posted...

By the way, what do you mean by everything you can do afterwards. AFAIK, you just dont get sick... So, it would be normal life for most people that arent sick all the time... Or take immunosuppressants or the like...

But sick covers everything from a cold to STD to shit like heart disease or high blood pressure. Hell, even obesity and addiction are classified as diseases now. You are free from all mental and physical ailments.

You can eat like shit with no effect on your health. You will never become addicted to a substance. You will never suffer from depression. Never develop cancer or something like dementia. You can fuck strangers bareback without fear. No matter what mental trauma you may experience in the future, you will get over it without having some shit like PTSD.

Most of that seems useless. I already fucked strangers bareback and Im fine. And now in a relationship, so doesnt matter. Also, most people dont care already. And they finally built the drug to resist HIV/AIDS. Or the spread of it. I think the rest are like easier to actually live with. Still wouldnt want them. But I dont think theyre Life threatening. But would it actually stop obesity. We classify it as a disease. But does that actually mean it would cure it in this hypothetical. Also, would you still be able to get drunk or high. I think I remember reading about the downsides of like a curing power that also make it impossible to get drunk or high. Meaning no addiction wouldnt matter if the drugs did nothing in the first place.

Not being able to get drunk would make this a hard pass for me. I dont care about living a long life just noy getting sick would make life more enjoyable
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An easy yes, if anything to prove Isolation wouldn't phase me.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Bugmeat posted...

LinkPizza posted...

By the way, what do you mean by everything you can do afterwards. AFAIK, you just dont get sick... So, it would be normal life for most people that arent sick all the time... Or take immunosuppressants or the like...

But sick covers everything from a cold to STD to shit like heart disease or high blood pressure. Hell, even obesity and addiction are classified as diseases now. You are free from all mental and physical ailments.

You can eat like shit with no effect on your health. You will never become addicted to a substance. You will never suffer from depression. Never develop cancer or something like dementia. You can fuck strangers bareback without fear. No matter what mental trauma you may experience in the future, you will get over it without having some shit like PTSD.

Most of that seems useless. I already fucked strangers bareback and Im fine. And now in a relationship, so doesnt matter. Also, most people dont care already. And they finally built the drug to resist HIV/AIDS. Or the spread of it. I think the rest are like easier to actually live with. Still wouldnt want them. But I dont think theyre Life threatening. But would it actually stop obesity. We classify it as a disease. But does that actually mean it would cure it in this hypothetical. Also, would you still be able to get drunk or high. I think I remember reading about the downsides of like a curing power that also make it impossible to get drunk or high. Meaning no addiction wouldnt matter if the drugs did nothing in the first place.

Not being able to get drunk would make this a hard pass for me. I dont care about living a long life just noy getting sick would make life more enjoyable

Tbh, I figured that would change your mind. But only because I know youve mentioned you like to drink. Haha. But yeah. I remember watching some show where someone had like super healing or something. And couldnt get drunk. They explained why, but I feel like its been a while since Ive seen whatever it was...
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Given my existing chronic health problems and how much being free of all my impairments, disabilities & illnesses would change my life, and how much isolation I've already had to endure, yes, I do believe I could do it, and would certainly be willing to try - with only one caveat, that I would also be permitted my usual daily medications during those two weeks. Otherwise I might be having seizures from opiate withdrawal before I ever got out, given that I'm on twice the standard ceiling dose of morphine.
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sodium-chloride posted...

Revelation34 posted...

sodium-chloride posted...

You guys are extremely confident that you could survive without basic necessities for two weeks. Prisoners in solitary confinement are still given some time out of the hole and time to use a toilet/take a shower, even go outside. And they're usually not stuck in that space for two weeks at a time.

You have no toilet or way to clean yourself in this situation. Your mind is the only source of entertainment/stimulation. But apparently all anyone on this board needs is a bed and a light switch to survive. Enjoy waddling in your filth and smelling your poop for 14 days.

I'm not surprised though. A lot of this board thinks it is okay with pressing a button to randomly kill 100 people around the world for a million dollars.

All cells have a toilet in them.

keyblader1985 posted...

The toilet thing is a good point. It wasn't explicitly denied so we need a ruling on it.

No it's a shit point.

MrMelodramatic posted...

No toilet. You have a bed, pillow, and light switch only.

I'm overriding you right now. That was a incredibly dumb "point" of his.

But it's just a toilet. Apparently this board is mentally and physically fortified enough to go without one.

Sure you can poop on the food tray and have it removed but then how do you clean yourself? Sounds like an easy way to give yourself dysentery which only makes you more susceptible to further disease.

Forget about the poop. What about urine? What happens when you start peeing more than the provided cup's volume can hold? Urinating on the ground will inevitably make such an enclosed space stink. Sleep and mood would both be greatly affected.

And if you can't tell how long it's been since you have had your last meal or how long you have slept for that makes putting yourself to sleep all the more difficult. In the real world you're able to sleep because you have cues and a routine that interact with circadian rhythm. Your circadian rhythm will be completely gone when you have next to no sense of time and no way to tell how much time has passed. The only way you'll be getting sleep in this situation is from pure exhaustion.

Personally, I already suffer from constipation anyway, so there wouldn't be a lot of that.

As for the circadian issue, it wouldn't be such a problem for me: I have chronic fatigue *and* my circadian rhythms are
basically screwed up anyway. I rarely manage to sleep all night and be awake all day like "normal" people, and lighting doesn't have much relevance to whether or not I sleep, in my experience. My dyscalculia means I have very little sense of time, so lack of cues wouldn't be much different from my life already. Just yesterday I wished my evening caregiver "good morning" when she came in and woke me, before I realised she was the woman who came at night (someone else comes in the mornings), because I'd slept from noon to 8pm and it was still daylight. I have almost no sense of time, and I can sleep up to 23 hours out of 24.

So, for some of us it would be less difficult in certain ways than for others. Tbh I think I might welcome the break, if my bed were on the far side of the room from the toileting corner or whatever arrangement that is.
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Can I bring some of my LSA seeds?
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LinkPizza posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Bugmeat posted...

LinkPizza posted...

By the way, what do you mean by everything you can do afterwards. AFAIK, you just dont get sick... So, it would be normal life for most people that arent sick all the time... Or take immunosuppressants or the like...

But sick covers everything from a cold to STD to shit like heart disease or high blood pressure. Hell, even obesity and addiction are classified as diseases now. You are free from all mental and physical ailments.

You can eat like shit with no effect on your health. You will never become addicted to a substance. You will never suffer from depression. Never develop cancer or something like dementia. You can fuck strangers bareback without fear. No matter what mental trauma you may experience in the future, you will get over it without having some shit like PTSD.

Most of that seems useless. I already fucked strangers bareback and Im fine. And now in a relationship, so doesnt matter. Also, most people dont care already. And they finally built the drug to resist HIV/AIDS. Or the spread of it. I think the rest are like easier to actually live with. Still wouldnt want them. But I dont think theyre Life threatening. But would it actually stop obesity. We classify it as a disease. But does that actually mean it would cure it in this hypothetical. Also, would you still be able to get drunk or high. I think I remember reading about the downsides of like a curing power that also make it impossible to get drunk or high. Meaning no addiction wouldnt matter if the drugs did nothing in the first place.

Not being able to get drunk would make this a hard pass for me. I dont care about living a long life just noy getting sick would make life more enjoyable

Tbh, I figured that would change your mind. But only because I know youve mentioned you like to drink. Haha. But yeah. I remember watching some show where someone had like super healing or something. And couldnt get drunk. They explained why, but I feel like its been a while since Ive seen whatever it was...

I know deadpool captain America and thr flash cant get drunk. Flash because super metabolism though in the ahow he got drunk after they made a special drink for him but it only lasted mere seconds.

But yeah only way id give up drinking is if I had enough money to buy video games and new consoles whenever I pleased. I mean even if I wanted a few new games every week kinda money
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Sure, as long as I have a toilet in there too.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Bugmeat posted...

LinkPizza posted...

By the way, what do you mean by everything you can do afterwards. AFAIK, you just dont get sick... So, it would be normal life for most people that arent sick all the time... Or take immunosuppressants or the like...

But sick covers everything from a cold to STD to shit like heart disease or high blood pressure. Hell, even obesity and addiction are classified as diseases now. You are free from all mental and physical ailments.

You can eat like shit with no effect on your health. You will never become addicted to a substance. You will never suffer from depression. Never develop cancer or something like dementia. You can fuck strangers bareback without fear. No matter what mental trauma you may experience in the future, you will get over it without having some shit like PTSD.

Most of that seems useless. I already fucked strangers bareback and Im fine. And now in a relationship, so doesnt matter. Also, most people dont care already. And they finally built the drug to resist HIV/AIDS. Or the spread of it. I think the rest are like easier to actually live with. Still wouldnt want them. But I dont think theyre Life threatening. But would it actually stop obesity. We classify it as a disease. But does that actually mean it would cure it in this hypothetical. Also, would you still be able to get drunk or high. I think I remember reading about the downsides of like a curing power that also make it impossible to get drunk or high. Meaning no addiction wouldnt matter if the drugs did nothing in the first place.

Not being able to get drunk would make this a hard pass for me. I dont care about living a long life just noy getting sick would make life more enjoyable

Tbh, I figured that would change your mind. But only because I know youve mentioned you like to drink. Haha. But yeah. I remember watching some show where someone had like super healing or something. And couldnt get drunk. They explained why, but I feel like its been a while since Ive seen whatever it was...

I know deadpool captain America and thr flash cant get drunk. Flash because super metabolism though in the ahow he got drunk after they made a special drink for him but it only lasted mere seconds.

But yeah only way id give up drinking is if I had enough money to buy video games and new consoles whenever I pleased. I mean even if I wanted a few new games every week kinda money

Yeah. I was saying maybe for a ton of cash with the power. Though, I would be mainly doing it for the money...

myghostisdead posted...

Sure, as long as I have a toilet in there too.

Apparently, according to TC, you don't have one...
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sodium-chloride posted...

But it's just a toilet. Apparently this board is mentally and physically fortified enough to go without one.

Sure you can poop on the food tray and have it removed but then how do you clean yourself? Sounds like an easy way to give yourself dysentery which only makes you more susceptible to further disease.

Forget about the poop. What about urine? What happens when you start peeing more than the provided cup's volume can hold? Urinating on the ground will inevitably make such an enclosed space stink. Sleep and mood would both be greatly affected.

And if you can't tell how long it's been since you have had your last meal or how long you have slept for that makes putting yourself to sleep all the more difficult. In the real world you're able to sleep because you have cues and a routine that interact with circadian rhythm. Your circadian rhythm will be completely gone when you have next to no sense of time and no way to tell how much time has passed. The only way you'll be getting sleep in this situation is from pure exhaustion.

"In return you never get sick again. If youre currently sick, youre cured."

Also he never said there wasn't a clock in the room. Adding onto it on other posts after the OP are invalid.
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MrMelodramatic posted...

No toilet. You have a bed, pillow, and light switch only.

In that case I would probably fast. No eating, just enough fluids to stay hydrated. I did that for two weeks in university when I had a throat infection that was so bad I literally couldn't eat anything because it hurt too much. It wasn't pleasant and I lost a lot of weight (and I have a slender-to-average build as it is), but it's actually not as bad as you'd think. After about three days you stop feeling hungry.

sodium-chloride posted...

What do you wipe your ass with or is that a non-factor

Rip off some of the bedding. You can keep the room any temperature you like, so the need for covering is null. Or, since we're into the "playing with technicalities" part of this scenario, just wear some extra T-shirts when you come to take this test, strip them off once you're inside and use them.

sodium-chloride posted...

What about urine? What happens when you start peeing more than the provided cup's volume can hold?

....I'm not sure you're fully up to speed on how conservation of mass works.

sodium-chloride posted...

And if you can't tell how long it's been since you have had your last meal or how long you have slept for that makes putting yourself to sleep all the more difficult. In the real world you're able to sleep because you have cues and a routine that interact with circadian rhythm. Your circadian rhythm will be completely gone when you have next to no sense of time and no way to tell how much time has passed. The only way you'll be getting sleep in this situation is from pure exhaustion.

This is straight-up, flat-out wrong. Like, "not even a little bit right" wrong.

They have done experiments with people where they have done almost this exact thing - stuck people in a room with no clock and no other external clues of time and allowed them to control the lighting to decide when they went to sleep. What they discovered is that people will maintain their sleeping patterns for a few days after the experiment begins then, interestingly, they will naturally shift to a 27 hour rhythm - up for 17-18 hours, asleep for 9-10 (with sleep usually broken up in the middle by an hour or two's wakefulness, which is how our bodies are actually supposed to run and how they did run in the times before artificial light was a thing - the ancient Greeks considered that period to be prime snogging time).

People didn't go crazy or get hyper sleep-deprived or anything like that. Yeah, when you get out you probably won't be sleeping at normal hours for a bit, but that's just jet lag. People around the world deal with that every day.

LinkPizza posted...

By the way, what do you mean by everything you can do afterwards. AFAIK, you just dont get sick... So, it would be normal life for most people that arent sick all the time... Or take immunosuppressants or the like...

Yeah... and that's fucking fantastic.

Sure, if you're in your 20s or 30s right now this probably doesn't sound like a big deal... but it means that in your golden years you won't have to worry about any physical ailments. No Alzheimer's, no arthritis, no cancer, no dementia, no osteoporosis - all the ailments traditionally associated with "getting old" simply wouldn't apply to you. You would live a long life - making it to 150 would not be out of the question - and you would be guaranteed to be healthy for the duration of it.

Forget never getting colds or the flu, that alone would be more than worth it. You're trading two weeks of misery for ~50-80 extra years of healthy living.
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All y'all are saying "It's extremely easy"

You are in a cell with no entertainment, OR toilet for 336 HOURS.

And you bring up the fact of monks meditating. Keep in mind they don't do that for 2 weeks straight, and they do get to be around each other.

My point is, It Is NOT easy
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Revelation34 posted...

sodium-chloride posted...

But it's just a toilet. Apparently this board is mentally and physically fortified enough to go without one.

Sure you can poop on the food tray and have it removed but then how do you clean yourself? Sounds like an easy way to give yourself dysentery which only makes you more susceptible to further disease.

Forget about the poop. What about urine? What happens when you start peeing more than the provided cup's volume can hold? Urinating on the ground will inevitably make such an enclosed space stink. Sleep and mood would both be greatly affected.

And if you can't tell how long it's been since you have had your last meal or how long you have slept for that makes putting yourself to sleep all the more difficult. In the real world you're able to sleep because you have cues and a routine that interact with circadian rhythm. Your circadian rhythm will be completely gone when you have next to no sense of time and no way to tell how much time has passed. The only way you'll be getting sleep in this situation is from pure exhaustion.

"In return you never get sick again. If youre currently sick, youre cured."

Also he never said there wasn't a clock in the room. Adding onto it on other posts after the OP are invalid.

I said in the OP you have a bed, pillow, and light switch, and no other materials.

LuciusLatios posted...

All y'all are saying "It's extremely easy"

I don't think anyone's said it's extremely easy - in fact, a lot of us are saying it would be a slog. It's just not the sanity-destroying torturous crisis some people in this topic are making it out to be.

I mean, isolation really isn't that big of a deal for some people. For instance, I work from home - I've had a week go by without seeing another person before (back just after I moved but before I got settled in and joined some activities). Didn't bother me in the slightest. The isolation in no way sounds like a bad thing to me.

The lack of entertainment would, indeed, suck. But I'm a martial artist - have been for decades. I need precisely zero external materials to practice and I can (and do, at least a few times a year) do that for 8+ hours at a time.

The absence of a toilet sounds like the worst part of this to me... but even then all that means is that you and the room will stink. That's unpleasant, but not a dealbreaker. You don't have to worry about the long-term health ramifications because, thanks to your reward, there will be none.
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MrMelodramatic posted...

I said in the OP you have a bed, pillow, and light switch, and no other materials.

No you said "No books or electronics or any kind of materials." Which means any kind of entertainment product because it was part of the same sentence.
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Well tc you never said it had to be done concurrently so.... 1 day a week for 14 weeks don't sound too bad at all.
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darkknight109 posted...

They have done experiments with people where they have done almost this exact thing - stuck people in a room with no clock and no other external clues of time and allowed them to control the lighting to decide when they went to sleep. What they discovered is that people will maintain their sleeping patterns for a few days after the experiment begins then, interestingly, they will naturally shift to a 27 hour rhythm - up for 17-18 hours, asleep for 9-10 (with sleep usually broken up in the middle by an hour or two's wakefulness, which is how our bodies are actually supposed to run and how they did run in the times before artificial light was a thing - the ancient Greeks considered that period to be prime snogging time).

link to study?

darkknight109 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

By the way, what do you mean by everything you can do afterwards. AFAIK, you just dont get sick... So, it would be normal life for most people that arent sick all the time... Or take immunosuppressants or the like...

Yeah... and that's fucking fantastic.

Sure, if you're in your 20s or 30s right now this probably doesn't sound like a big deal... but it means that in your golden years you won't have to worry about any physical ailments. No Alzheimer's, no arthritis, no cancer, no dementia, no osteoporosis - all the ailments traditionally associated with "getting old" simply wouldn't apply to you. You would live a long life - making it to 150 would not be out of the question - and you would be guaranteed to be healthy for the duration of it.

Forget never getting colds or the flu, that alone would be more than worth it. You're trading two weeks of misery for ~50-80 extra years of healthy living.

I don't want to live that much longer than anyone I care about. And no one apparently actually dies of old age. So, you are right about living a long time. Technically, you could live to like 200 or 300. But that would be torture. Well, for me. I would literally hate that. So two weeks of literal torture, follow by possibly hundreds of years or figurative torture. No thanks. I don't even plan to live super old, anyway. I'd rather die when it time than watch literally everybody else die. Anyway, like I said, for the normal duration of life, it's still pretty normal. Who I quoted made it sound like you could just do cool stuff because of it. Like if you were invincible or something...

sodium-chloride posted...

darkknight109 posted...

They have done experiments with people where they have done almost this exact thing - stuck people in a room with no clock and no other external clues of time and allowed them to control the lighting to decide when they went to sleep. What they discovered is that people will maintain their sleeping patterns for a few days after the experiment begins then, interestingly, they will naturally shift to a 27 hour rhythm - up for 17-18 hours, asleep for 9-10 (with sleep usually broken up in the middle by an hour or two's wakefulness, which is how our bodies are actually supposed to run and how they did run in the times before artificial light was a thing - the ancient Greeks considered that period to be prime snogging time).

link to study?

I've actually seen this study. Or one like it. I remember because as I was reading it, it sort of reminded me of the sleep schedule of my BF and I when I was always over his house. We would always wake up in the middle of the night and have sex... Haha.
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MrMelodramatic posted...

no mental illness

Well that fixes any issues that might arise from the isolation, so sure.

Revelation34 posted...

MrMelodramatic posted...

I said in the OP you have a bed, pillow, and light switch, and no other materials.

No you said "No books or electronics or any kind of materials." Which means any kind of entertainment product because it was part of the same sentence.

Not necessarily. Books and electronics aren't only for entertainment. Like books to study. Or electronics like pacemakers...

darkknight109 posted...

LuciusLatios posted...

All y'all are saying "It's extremely easy"

I don't think anyone's said it's extremely easy - in fact, a lot of us are saying it would be a slog. It's just not the sanity-destroying torturous crisis some people in this topic are making it out to be.

I mean, isolation really isn't that big of a deal for some people. For instance, I work from home - I've had a week go by without seeing another person before (back just after I moved but before I got settled in and joined some activities). Didn't bother me in the slightest. The isolation in no way sounds like a bad thing to me.

The lack of entertainment would, indeed, suck. But I'm a martial artist - have been for decades. I need precisely zero external materials to practice and I can (and do, at least a few times a year) do that for 8+ hours at a time.

The absence of a toilet sounds like the worst part of this to me... but even then all that means is that you and the room will stink. That's unpleasant, but not a dealbreaker. You don't have to worry about the long-term health ramifications because, thanks to your reward, there will be none.

I think some have said very easy. Or have alluding that it might be for them...
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LinkPizza posted...

Not necessarily. Books and electronics aren't only for entertainment. Like books to study. Or electronics like pacemakers...

Even a super difficult math text book you don't understand would be entertainment in a situation like that.
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Revelation34 posted...

MrMelodramatic posted...

I said in the OP you have a bed, pillow, and light switch, and no other materials.

No you said "No books or electronics or any kind of materials." Which means any kind of entertainment product because it was part of the same sentence.

Thats not how sentences work but okay

Easily under two conditions

My son is being taken care of and if anything were to happen to him I'd be notified.

He also gains these powers.
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Revelation34 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Not necessarily. Books and electronics aren't only for entertainment. Like books to study. Or electronics like pacemakers...

Even a super difficult math text book you don't understand would be entertainment in a situation like that.

I can't say it would be for sure. If you don't understand it, I'm not sure it could be entertainment. It would be like reading a book in a language you don't understand. It I didn't understand it, it wouldn't be entertainment at all unlike tv shows in another language. The only upside would or the math book would be most likely understanding the most of the normal words. But I'm just saying that him saying no other materials wouldn't necessarily only mean other entertainment materials since there's are books and electronics made for purposes other than entertainment...
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LinkPizza posted...

Revelation34 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Not necessarily. Books and electronics aren't only for entertainment. Like books to study. Or electronics like pacemakers...

Even a super difficult math text book you don't understand would be entertainment in a situation like that.

I can't say it would be for sure. If you don't understand it, I'm not sure it could be entertainment. It would be like reading a book in a language you don't understand. It I didn't understand it, it wouldn't be entertainment at all unlike tv shows in another language. The only upside would or the math book would be most likely understanding the most of the normal words. But I'm just saying that him saying no other materials wouldn't necessarily only mean other entertainment materials since there's are books and electronics made for purposes other than entertainment...

Most text books explain how to do the math and I cant speak for everyone but I'm capable of teaching myself if it's a decent enough text book.
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MrMelodramatic posted...

Thats not how sentences work but okay

Actually it is.
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Revelation34 posted...

MrMelodramatic posted...

Thats not how sentences work but okay

Actually it is.

It's an awkward way to word it, but there's no reason to presume that "any kind of materials" is specifically limited to entertainment materials just because the rest of the sentence references stuff that would normally be considered entertainment.

mooreandrew58 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Revelation34 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Not necessarily. Books and electronics aren't only for entertainment. Like books to study. Or electronics like pacemakers...

Even a super difficult math text book you don't understand would be entertainment in a situation like that.

I can't say it would be for sure. If you don't understand it, I'm not sure it could be entertainment. It would be like reading a book in a language you don't understand. It I didn't understand it, it wouldn't be entertainment at all unlike tv shows in another language. The only upside would or the math book would be most likely understanding the most of the normal words. But I'm just saying that him saying no other materials wouldn't necessarily only mean other entertainment materials since there's are books and electronics made for purposes other than entertainment...

Most text books explain how to do the math and I cant speak for everyone but I'm capable of teaching myself if it's a decent enough text book.

Oh. I've done the same. I've always been pretty good at math. So it's not hard for me. Well, real math. But I know many people who just hate math with a passion. And have trouble with it even when they have teachers and friends trying to help them understand. But I was also talking about a book way above someone's level. Like trying to teach someone college level AP Calculus when the high math they have had is high school level basic algebra or something. And have been out of school for many years. Haha.
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As long as there is no button to end it early, easily. If there is a button to end it early, then there is trouble.

If you go in and your choices are either make it through or go insane and kill yourself, I'm pretty sure I could keep reminding myself of the prize and not kill myself. I could do a lot of fasting and make imaginary friends or art out of the food. by only drinking water and using the food to do something productive, I may even stave off insanity, but people in solitary have gone insane, or did self harm before.

So, if there is a big red button that would instantly end it and let you talk to people, watch tv, play games or see the sun, or whatever normal thing insane me wants, I don't know that I trust insane me not to go through with the whole 2 weeks. and if i leave early, I don't get the powers and I have gained nothing but possibly destroy my life in the process.

depending on how the never get sick powers work I may still be up to try with a button. but without one, ya it would probably be a long two weeks, but eay as pie decision to do it. As someone else said obesity is a disease, so do you gain an athletic body?

If you have gender dysphoria do you feel alright in your normal body or does your body change to match what you perceive yourself as? The best way we have of curing it is changing the body such as GRS. So if the cure is seen as changing the parts, one would think the body would change to accomodate. But what if you are gender fluid, could you change your sex at will or would you just get an androgynous or even hermaphroditic body?

Theoretically an aging body could be seen as an illness. Would your body remain in it's prime condition until you reach an age old enough to be "Old age". or would you have functional immortality until acted on by an outside force?
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sodium-chloride posted...

link to study?

It has been over a decade since I first came across it, so I haven't the foggiest idea of where I originally read it. That said, here's an article referencing similar findings:

https://www.sciencealert.com/experiments-show-that-humans-can-sleep-for-days-when-living-alone-underground

LinkPizza posted...

I don't want to live that much longer than anyone I care about. And no one apparently actually dies of old age. So, you are right about living a long time.

To the first, why would you not make new friends as you age? You could feasibly be playing with and telling stories to your great-great-great-grandchildren.

To the second, per the OP, you will eventually die "just because".

I know this is a personal opinion kind of thing, but I just don't understand people who say they don't want to live a long time. From my perspective, if I could live 300 years in good health, I would take it in a heartbeat. There's so many things I want to do in life, I would never be bored.
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slacker03150 posted...

Theoretically an aging body could be seen as an illness. Would your body remain in it's prime condition until you reach an age old enough to be "Old age". or would you have functional immortality until acted on by an outside force?

Since you don't die or old age, you'd probably be immortal unless outside forces destroy you...

slacker03150 posted...

so do you gain an athletic body?

Probably average, if anything. If he's even counting that as am illness. Because I'm not sure if it only works on actual illnesses. Or also things we label as illnesses...

slacker03150 posted...

Theoretically an aging body could be seen as an illness. Would your body remain in it's prime condition until you reach an age old enough to be "Old age". or would you have functional immortality until acted on by an outside force?

Since you don't die of just old age (according to the internet), you'd probably be immortal unless outside forces destroy you...
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darkknight109 posted...

I know this is a personal opinion kind of thing, but I just don't understand people who say they don't want to live a long time.

I don't either. Not just because of my own fear of death but because some folk die at a young age and have no choice in the matter. My older sister died of cancer at the age of 26 for example. Due to this I want to live as long as possible and think myself lucky to have life everyday I live. I know my sister would have done anything to live to the age I am today and even past that.
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Id live indefinitely if it were possible. Thousands and thousands of years at least.
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darkknight109 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

I don't want to live that much longer than anyone I care about. And no one apparently actually dies of old age. So, you are right about living a long time.

To the first, why would you not make new friends as you age? You could feasibly be playing with and telling stories to your great-great-great-grandchildren.

To the second, per the OP, you will eventually die "just because".

I know this is a personal opinion kind of thing, but I just don't understand people who say they don't want to live a long time. From my perspective, if I could live 300 years in good health, I would take it in a heartbeat. There's so many things I want to do in life, I would never be bored.

After losing all my friends the first time, I would want to make new ones only to know they'll die soon after. I say soon be cause if I really do live for nearly forever (or for a long time), their lives would probably feel short to me. I also don't plan on having kids. My BF has kids, so I could have a step family. But we're also not planning on getting married, so...

I guess for the second part. He doesn't really explain. I don't know when you would die. So, it could be 20 years later... Or 2000 years later. He just said eventually.

I wouldn't unless everyone else did, as well. I don't like to be alone. And growing old like that while everyone else doesn't is sad to me. I'd rather die with them. Also, just being older doesn't mean you'll get to do everything. You could live to 300 and not even do more than normal people. For example, I like to travel. Living to 300 doesn't make it so you can easily travel. it just gives you more time. You still need the money to do so. And would still need to work a job to do that. As an example.

Also, I don't want to lose my SO. Sure, I wouldn't be depressed because of the stupid power. But I would be sad and bored without him...
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wwinterj25 posted...

darkknight109 posted...

I know this is a personal opinion kind of thing, but I just don't understand people who say they don't want to live a long time.

I don't either. Not just because of my own fear of death but because some folk die at a young age and have no choice in the matter. My older sister died of cancer at the age of 26 for example. Due to this I want to live as long as possible and think myself lucky to have life everyday I live. I know my sister would have done anything to live to the age I am today and even past that.

Living for a long time is fine. Like to 80 or whatever. Living hundreds of years and longer than literally everyone you currently know seems like it would suck... To me, at least. And other people, I guess...
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LinkPizza posted...

Living for a long time is fine. Like to 80 or whatever. Living hundreds of years and longer than literally everyone you currently know seems like it would suck... To me, at least. And other people, I guess...

I only have a handful of close people in my life and they can die at anytime. I will hate when that day comes just as I did with my sister but life does go on. Immortality is appealing to me however that might be because I'm still young, want to achieve things in my life and fear death. Apparently some folk fear death less and less the older they get.
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wwinterj25 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Living for a long time is fine. Like to 80 or whatever. Living hundreds of years and longer than literally everyone you currently know seems like it would suck... To me, at least. And other people, I guess...

I only have a handful of close people in my life and they can die at anytime. I will hate when that day comes just as I did with my sister but life does go on. Immortality is appealing to me however that might be because I'm still young, want to achieve things in my life and fear death. Apparently some folk fear death less and less the older they get.

Yeah. For me, it would be too hard. But I have a bigger than average family, I think. Not large, though. My great grandma had 8 kids, who all had a couple of kids themselves, who had multiple kids as well, for the most part. She have like 8 kids, a bunch of grandkids, over a hundred great-grandkids, and even some great-great grandchildren. And she had siblings who have family a little further south, as well. So even more family. I could bear to watch them all die, tbh. It would break my heart. Though, I guess I wouldn't be depressed. But Id still be sad. And I would like that...
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LinkPizza posted...

But I have a bigger than average family, I think.

Oh I have a large family I'm just not close to most of them. I haven't seen most of them in 10 years or more at my nans funeral and probably will see some of them on Wednesday on my granddads funeral. I guess that's the only time I'll see them and that's at funerals.
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wwinterj25 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

But I have a bigger than average family, I think.

Oh I have a large family I'm just not close to most of them. I haven't seen most of them in 10 years or more at my nans funeral and probably will see some of them on Wednesday on my granddads funeral. I guess that's the only time I'll see them and that's at funerals.

:(
Sorry about your granddad, man